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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (26 Viewers)

FFPC standard

1.07
For
1.11 and 2.04

I know I posted a trade previously where I sold 1.03, but this is further back where it’s harder to predict who will be on the board so I’d rather wait until closer to the draft or ideally on the clock.

That said, I like the 1.11 and 2.04 side in this draft. Don’t see a ton of difference between the quality of player you’re likely to get at 7 versus the two you’ll get at 11 and 16.
 
FFPC standard

1.07
For
1.11 and 2.04
The way this class looks I'd rather sit on the 11/16 but can easily see how some separation I'm not currently seeing between the 7 and 11 becomes evident when all is said and done.

I would also say, and yes I know you should not draft for need, but if you really wanted to upgrade or target a WR in the draft I think the move up to 7 does make sense. Other may see it differently but I only view 4 WR's worthy of being considered first round picks and I don't really like one of them that much. Whether you got 3 or 4 WR's you think are worth a first a good chance you can't get one sitting back at 11.

Which also really makes me think of kind of unusual this draft is from any of previous few seasons where this looks like the kind of draft you might need to trade up for a WR, instead of what we normally see is people in one QB FFPC going RB hungry and pushing WR's back.
 
SF. Probably an overpay but I gave:

1.08, 3.12, 4.01, 24 1st, Trubisky, MacKenzie, Z Knight, Antonio Pierce

For

Derek Carr, Mack Hollins, Garrett Wilson

Gives me a starting lineup of
Q Watson/Carr/Tannehill/Lance
R Barkley, Henry
W Evans, Kupp, Wilson
T Waller/Dulcich
F: Ekeler, K Walker
Bench: D Johnson, Ridley
I don’t mind the overpay - the ‘24 1st is a bit much. I could see getting this done without it since you’re giving the 1.08

But it does give you a better QB2 and in SF one typically has to overpay. Carr could be decent in NOS. I sold him for less before last season. I can see making this deal if you can’t find a better QB for less.

ETA: I didn’t see Wilson in that package (at work and distracted by rain) - I don’t think it’s much of an overpay, if at all. I’m not big on Carr, but love getting Wilson ahead of a QB upgrade.
 
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Which also really makes me think of kind of unusual this draft is from any of previous few seasons where this looks like the kind of draft you might need to trade up for a WR, instead of what we normally see is people in one QB FFPC going RB hungry and pushing WR's back.
It’s a mixed bag.

I feel like we’re going to see quite a few FF 2nd round WRs who outperform how everyone is group-thinking them right now.

There’s a lot of negativity out there, yet I continue to see scouts I respect giving high praise for guys like Flowers, Mims, Tillman, Downs, etc. and while Addison tested & measured poorly, his college production was great, so there’s a Calvin Ridley possibility there where he just proves (again) that the combine isn’t the end-all be-all to playing in the NFL.

The 2nd is also suddenly littered with TE prospects. And of course this draft’s strength is the RB class. Names have shifted a little post-combine, but it’s roughly the same number of them.

I’d be trying to acquire more 2nd round picks right now (but probably not at the expense of 1sts) and especially in SF.

In 1-QB I don’t mind turning a late 1st into a later 1st & an early second. That’s a move that should pay off. The only risk is a value slipping to 1.07 & not being able to capitalize on it. Which seems to happen more years than not.
 
FFPC standard

1.07
For
1.11 and 2.04
People have different tier breaks and perceived depth of the draft, so it depends. Personally I’d rather have the 1.7. Better risk management.
Exactly this. It all depends on whether one believes there’s a drop-off after 1.06, and another tier that goes to 16, in which case this is a 2 for 1.

But if one believes the tier break is after 7 or 8, makes more sense to hold the 7.
 
SF. Probably an overpay but I gave:

1.08, 3.12, 4.01, 24 1st, Trubisky, MacKenzie, Z Knight, Antonio Pierce

For

Derek Carr, Mack Hollins, Garrett Wilson

Gives me a starting lineup of
Q Watson/Carr/Tannehill/Lance
R Barkley, Henry
W Evans, Kupp, Wilson
T Waller/Dulcich
F: Ekeler, K Walker
Bench: D Johnson, Ridley
I don’t mind the overpay - the ‘24 1st is a bit much. I could see getting this done without it since you’re giving the 1.08

But it does give you a better QB2 and in SF one typically has to overpay. Carr could be decent in NOS. I sold him for less before last season. I can see making this deal if you can’t find a better QB for less.

You think he overpaid for Wilson and Carr? 1.08 and likely next years 1.12 seems like a no brainer
 
FFPC standard

1.07
For
1.11 and 2.04
People have different tier breaks and perceived depth of the draft, so it depends. Personally I’d rather have the 1.7. Better risk management.
Exactly this. It all depends on whether one believes there’s a drop-off after 1.06, and another tier that goes to 16, in which case this is a 2 for 1.

But if one believes the tier break is after 7 or 8, makes more sense to hold the 7.

It's a risk trade. After the draft the 7 could look way better than right now, or maybe the two picks looks better than right know.
I know this though, it's rare that my own personal top 6 all actually get drafted in the top 6.
 
I know this though, it's rare that my own personal top 6 all actually get drafted in the top 6.
That, to me, is the biggest risk.

Weird things happen in drafts. Maybe inexplicably 2 QBs go 5-6.

The missed opportunity of a value falling your way is the risk.

But…that said, if 1.11 & 2.04 are both good value picks as well you’ve doubled your chances of hitting on a player.

As I said before, I don’t mind the trade either way.
 
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Also, in FFPC, smaller rosters, so going after the better player is generally the way to go.

Didn’t realize you got the 1.07. I’m playing this draft from the depth angle but I see your side of it too. The price is right for both sides, so just seems like personal preference and roster considerations make the determination. I also like that you got the deal done now. Probably more expensive later.
 
12 team SF IDP

Gave: Bateman, 3.05
Got: Pittman
I’m not a Pittman guy, but I feel like that’s the winning side of this deal.

Once the Colts draft a QB, I would try to flip him when optimism is at its highest. Chances are good that whomever they have at QB won’t be awesome for a while, so there could be a bump before that reality sets in.

I mean, there’s also a chance someone comes in & takes the league by storm, making Pittman a WR1. Less optimism from me on that one.
 
Gave: 1.10 rookie pick

Received: T.J. Hockenson

I only had Gesicki, McBride and Moreau at TE prior to this trade.
It’s good to see Hock is finally undervalued. Probably a fair deal but if you’re contending that’s a perfect deal for you.
 
Gave: 1.10 rookie pick

Received: T.J. Hockenson

I only had Gesicki, McBride and Moreau at TE prior to this trade.
It’s good to see Hock is finally undervalued. Probably a fair deal but if you’re contending that’s a perfect deal for you.
I feel like that’s a bargain for Hock.

Thielen is gone, KJO is likely to get a slight bump, but Hock should get even more targets. I would pay the 1.10 instantly for him, without hesitation.
 
12 team PPR. 1 QB.

Gave: 1.12, 2024 2nd (early), 2024 3rd (early)
Received: 2024 1

I've got to be honest. Unless that other team stinks and you know they stink, I don't like this deal.

It really should be the 1.12 for the 2024 1st alone.
I write down 3-4 teams I target for their future 1st. He was one of them. Now, his team isn't terrible so its not obvious to be an early pick but starting roster of:

QB: Lamar
RB: Etienne, D. Cook, Mixon
WR: Evans, M. Brown
TE: Chigoziem

Not much depth: E. Moore, Aiyuk, Dotson
 
12 team PPR. 1 QB.

Gave: 1.12, 2024 2nd (early), 2023 (early)
Received: 2024 1
What round is the 2023 (early)?

Also what’s the likelihood of the 2024 pick to be early?
Oops, my bad. I edited the original post. Its a 3rd. I would put that team as a bottom 4-5 team. They could sneak into the playoff, but I would think not.
Ok, so 1.12, a 24 2nd, & a 23 3rd for a 24 early-to-mid 1st?

I like it so long as it ends up 1.07 or earlier. I’m assuming this is also a short bench league? If so it makes more sense, and the value is better on the 2024 1st than a 1.12 & 2 players you’re unlikely to be able to keep.
 
I write down 3-4 teams I target for their future 1st. He was one of them. Now, his team isn't terrible so its not obvious to be an early pick but starting roster of:

QB: Lamar
RB: Etienne, D. Cook, Mixon
WR: Evans, M. Brown
TE: Chigoziem

Not much depth: E. Moore, Aiyuk, Dotson

Ah, okay. Your other post upthread clarified, too. I dunno...I don't hate his roster at all. I don't trust Chigoziem at TE, but Etienne, Cook, and Mixon? That's a formidable RB crew depending on what the Bengals do with Mixon.

I like his receivers, too.

Huh. Oh well, everybody's mileage may vary.
 
Ah, okay. Your other post upthread clarified, too. I dunno...I don't hate his roster at all. I don't trust Chigoziem at TE, but Etienne, Cook, and Mixon? That's a formidable RB crew depending on what the Bengals do with Mixon.

I like his receivers, too.

Huh. Oh well, everybody's mileage may vary.
And there’s always the chance that LJax has an MVP season - I could see that roster having a great season or completely tanking.

But like you, I see a lot of upside there. This deal could easily backfire.
 
I write down 3-4 teams I target for their future 1st. He was one of them. Now, his team isn't terrible so its not obvious to be an early pick but starting roster of:

QB: Lamar
RB: Etienne, D. Cook, Mixon
WR: Evans, M. Brown
TE: Chigoziem

Not much depth: E. Moore, Aiyuk, Dotson

Ah, okay. Your other post upthread clarified, too. I dunno...I don't hate his roster at all. I don't trust Chigoziem at TE, but Etienne, Cook, and Mixon? That's a formidable RB crew depending on what the Bengals do with Mixon.

I like his receivers, too.

Huh. Oh well, everybody's mileage may vary.
agreed that if things fall right he could be close to playoff team. Evans post Brady would scare me. Mixon I don't have much faith in with offseason and probably cut. D. Cook looked like he lost a step. I like Etienne.
The big thing is weak TE, no one behind Lamar. No depth.
 
12 team PPR, 1 QB.

Gave: 1.09, 2.09
Received: 2024 1, 2024 2

I should also add in my leagues I stock piled 2023 picks. Each one of these trade helps me to keep end of bench guys like Hogdins, Thornton, Fant, Higbee. Those types can now stay on my roster in return for 2024 picks. I think I give up some value here, but love the possibility of getting a lottery pick for late 2023 picks.
 
12 team SF IDP

Gave: Bateman, 3.05
Got: Pittman
Two roster cloggers. May as well take the draft pick.
Pittman is probably a mid WR2 in fantasy at best, but a “roster clogger” is unnecessarily harsh - unless you have really short benches.

I’m also not sure Bateman is even close to being a roster clogger. He’s looked good when healthy and this is his third year. Seems a good guy to have on your bench. I do play in bigger bench leagues though (25-30 players).
 
Pittman is probably a mid WR2 in fantasy at best, but a “roster clogger” is unnecessarily harsh - unless you have really short benches.

Think jabarony was being facetious. I divine that because he says something to the effect of "this is about the pick" where the pick is the 3.05. I think his tongue is planted firmly in cheek here.
 
Pittman is probably a mid WR2 in fantasy at best, but a “roster clogger” is unnecessarily harsh - unless you have really short benches.

Think jabarony was being facetious. I divine that because he says something to the effect of "this is about the pick" where the pick is the 3.05. I think his tongue is planted firmly in cheek here.
Maybe - but I don’t get it then. I’m not seeing the humor.
 
The big thing is weak TE, no one behind Lamar. No depth.
This, in addition to Evans’ likely drop-off, is where this team definitely worries me.

Mixon is also a question mark at the moment.

Probably will work out for you.
I’m hoping, but not necessarily expecting for Evans to be traded.
That was my expectation as well.

That said, he’s about to turn 30 (one day after my birthday on Aug 21), and he’s been battling soft tissue injuries for years - mostly his hamstring(s). He had issues with them last year as well.

I can see a scenario where he has 1-2 last great years, and I can easily see another scenario where he plays gimpy and sort of falls off a cliff into WR3/Flex irrelevance.

He really mailed it in for a while in 2022, which concerned me just from an attitude POV. Maybe greener pastures will help with his commitment, but his hammies are still a concern.
 
The big thing is weak TE, no one behind Lamar. No depth.
This, in addition to Evans’ likely drop-off, is where this team definitely worries me.

Mixon is also a question mark at the moment.

Probably will work out for you.
I’m hoping, but not necessarily expecting for Evans to be traded.
That was my expectation as well.

That said, he’s about to turn 30 (one day after my birthday on Aug 21), and he’s been battling soft tissue injuries for years - mostly his hamstring(s). He had issues with them last year as well.

I can see a scenario where he has 1-2 last great years, and I can easily see another scenario where he plays gimpy and sort of falls off a cliff into WR3/Flex irrelevance.

He really mailed it in for a while in 2022, which concerned me just from an attitude POV. Maybe greener pastures will help with his commitment, but his hammies are still a concern.
Granted, my perspective is swayed by him and Brady winning the trophy for me when they finally put it together for one week.
But I think he’s squarely in the undervalued WR2 category now.
 
Scott Fish runs hundreds of leagues that are superflex, 2 PPR for TEs and no kickers or defenses.

This is a 14-team league with those settings and 25-man rosters.

This trade went down yesterday after the CAR/CHI trade. I wasn't involved.

Team A gave: Justin Fields
Team B gave: Sam Howell, 1.10, 1.11, 1.14, 2.05

I would argue that Howell plus the 2.05 could equal a late 1st. So this would be roughly four late 1sts for Fields.
 
Maybe - but I don’t get it then. I’m not seeing the humor.

I read it again. I could be dead wrong. I'm leaning towards his comment being hyperbolic but serious, unlike the joke I thought it was.
Lol yeah sorry. Definitely harsh/hyperbole. I wouldn’t cut those guys, or anything like that. I just see them both as interchangeable and not difference makers.
 
Scott Fish runs hundreds of leagues that are superflex, 2 PPR for TEs and no kickers or defenses.

This is a 14-team league with those settings and 25-man rosters.

This trade went down yesterday after the CAR/CHI trade. I wasn't involved.

Team A gave: Justin Fields
Team B gave: Sam Howell, 1.10, 1.11, 1.14, 2.05

I would argue that Howell plus the 2.05 could equal a late 1st. So this would be roughly four late 1sts for Fields.
I would probably entertain paying that for Fields if I was a QB away from serious contention. He’s capable of 50 PPG, as we saw last year. Very few players have that sort of ceiling.

It’s a gamble. Could pay off. :shrug:

That said, I wouldn’t pay a late 1st for Howell. 2.05 unless I was sure Howell was a starting QB, which at this point doesn’t seem like the case.
 
Scott Fish runs hundreds of leagues that are superflex, 2 PPR for TEs and no kickers or defenses.

This is a 14-team league with those settings and 25-man rosters.

This trade went down yesterday after the CAR/CHI trade. I wasn't involved.

Team A gave: Justin Fields
Team B gave: Sam Howell, 1.10, 1.11, 1.14, 2.05

I would argue that Howell plus the 2.05 could equal a late 1st. So this would be roughly four late 1sts for Fields.
Terrible honestly
 

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