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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (46 Viewers)

12 Team 1 QB, 0.5PPR / 1.0 PPR TE
I am in complete Rebuild

I gave up 1.01, 1.09, 2.07

I received Jax QB Trevor Lawrence, Cinn WR Tee Higgins, TBB TE Cade Otton, 3.07

I still have 1.07, 1.08, 2.01, 2.03, 2.08 draft picks
I am a big TLaw & Tee fan. I pursued them, this was the price. I am happy with it.
I'm sorry Birdie but I feel the same as Ghostguy. I don't see how you can give up Bijan for that return. In a one QB league Trevor seems like he's about on par with the 1.9. Otton's close to worthless. This feels like Bijan and 2.7 for Tee and 3.7.
The one detail that made me not mind this deal was the full rebuild part.

Drafting an elite RB seems a little silly in that context.

In 1-QB format, getting TLaw still nets a top ~7 QB for the foreseeable future. Better, if you believe there’s still room for Lawrence to grow, as many do.

QB is a little lean these days. I’ve said it before - there are maybe 9 worth rostering with long-term value in dynasty at the moment, with no guarantee that number increases in 2023.

So in that light I don’t mind the deal. Plus Birdie is a TLaw fan, so….I get it
This brings up an interesting point (maybe a discussion for a different thread). At what point is drafting Bijan a waste? I lucked into the 1.01 for 1.02 and 2.04 earlier this month and I've been really considering flipping the pick. For context, this is a superflex TE-P league with the following roster: QB/RB/WR/TE/SF/5xFlex. As it stands, I'm in the middle of a severe rebuild. The roster was very much bare. Traded for Fields and TLaw before the 2022 season and drafted Walker III. Walker is my only RB worth a crap right now and my WR room is a plethora of #2 WRs and dart throws. Guys like KJ Osborn, Nico Collins, Jakobi Myers, and Mooney. TE Room is solid. So unless I hit hard on some of my WR room dart throws, this team is not competitive. So Bijan tightens the heck out of my RB room, but the WR room is still a mess. At what value point is it reasonable to flip the 1.01 for a young stud WR and picks?
Fields, TLaw, Walker, Bijan, solid TEs and bunch of WRs 2s seems like a solid team that can make a playoff run in SF. If not this year then in another.
 
Feels rock solid to me. I see it as basically Bijan for Tee + TLaw.
In a start 1QB league you think Higgins and Lawrence are worth Bijan?
You really are high on Higgins.
I think it’s close enough to not be a terrible trade given that it’s a total rebuild.
I didn’t say it was “terrible” just poor value in a start 1QB league. Lawrence isn’t even a Top 5 QB (sure, he could be at some point).

Plus the 1.09 was included for no reason, imo.
 
Feels rock solid to me. I see it as basically Bijan for Tee + TLaw.
In a start 1QB league you think Higgins and Lawrence are worth Bijan?
You really are high on Higgins.
I think it’s close enough to not be a terrible trade given that it’s a total rebuild.
I didn’t say it was “terrible” just poor value in a start 1QB league. Lawrence isn’t even a Top 5 QB (sure, he could be at some point).

Plus the 1.09 was included for no reason, imo.
I didn’t think it was so out of balance to trash the deal as some did.

I was curious, and the trade calcs I just checked had it off by far less than the 1.09 - yes, I know, calcs aren’t the end all/be-all, but if we’re talking pure valuation they’re useful.

Regardless ,I’ve been told that in 1 QB leagues the 1.09 isn’t that valuable. I looked at it like a SF early-to-mid 2nd.

We all have our takes I guess.
 
Feels rock solid to me. I see it as basically Bijan for Tee + TLaw.
In a start 1QB league you think Higgins and Lawrence are worth Bijan?
You really are high on Higgins.
I think it’s close enough to not be a terrible trade given that it’s a total rebuild.
I didn’t say it was “terrible” just poor value in a start 1QB league. Lawrence isn’t even a Top 5 QB (sure, he could be at some point).

Plus the 1.09 was included for no reason, imo.
I didn’t think it was so out of balance to trash the deal as some did.

I was curious, and the trade calcs I just checked had it off by far less than the 1.09 - yes, I know, calcs aren’t the end all/be-all, but if we’re talking pure valuation they’re useful.

Regardless ,I’ve been told that in 1 QB leagues the 1.09 isn’t that valuable. I looked at it like a SF early-to-mid 2nd.

We all have our takes I guess.
1.09 nets you your choice of the QBs, TEs or the downtier RBs/WRs like Kendre Miller / Tank Bigsby or Jaylen Hyatt / Josh Downs. THere's value there depending on your team makeup, but it's most likley not going to be an immediate contributor unless you get lucky.
 
Feels rock solid to me. I see it as basically Bijan for Tee + TLaw.
In a start 1QB league you think Higgins and Lawrence are worth Bijan?
You really are high on Higgins.
I think it’s close enough to not be a terrible trade given that it’s a total rebuild.
I didn’t say it was “terrible” just poor value in a start 1QB league. Lawrence isn’t even a Top 5 QB (sure, he could be at some point).

Plus the 1.09 was included for no reason, imo.
I didn’t think it was so out of balance to trash the deal as some did.

I was curious, and the trade calcs I just checked had it off by far less than the 1.09 - yes, I know, calcs aren’t the end all/be-all, but if we’re talking pure valuation they’re useful.

Regardless ,I’ve been told that in 1 QB leagues the 1.09 isn’t that valuable. I looked at it like a SF early-to-mid 2nd.

We all have our takes I guess.
1.09 nets you your choice of the QBs, TEs or the downtier RBs/WRs like Kendre Miller / Tank Bigsby or Jaylen Hyatt / Josh Downs. THere's value there depending on your team makeup, but it's most likley not going to be an immediate contributor unless you get lucky.
I’m not saying there isn’t.

But if I need a QB, I’m taking Lawrence over Stroud/Young/ARich 100/100 times.
 
Regardless ,I’ve been told that in 1 QB leagues the 1.09 isn’t that valuable.
It could have been used to draft a QB. :shrug:
True. I don’t disagree. But maybe TLaw is a better QB than any in this draft. I’d certainly prefer him to Young or Stroud.
:shrug:

I get that it’s 1 QB. You still need a good QB.
That's the rub, right? IF you're team is stacked everywhere except QB then this trade makes sense. I don't see any of the rookies putting up top 15 numbers this season and NONE of them will outperform TLaw. So in that context, I don't have aproblem with making that trade. I'd like to get an uptier QB, but TLaw has the pieces in place to make a jump into elite status this year.
 
But maybe TLaw is a better QB than any in this draft. I’d certainly prefer him to Young or Stroud.
He probably is. I didn’t say he’d get a better QB necessarily. The point is he could have got a QB cheaper and then either drafted Bijan or trade the pick for a better package.

For some reason you’re acting like I trashed his trade - I clearly did not. I’m moving on.
 
But maybe TLaw is a better QB than any in this draft. I’d certainly prefer him to Young or Stroud.
He probably is. I didn’t say he’d get a better QB necessarily. The point is he could have got a QB cheaper and then either drafted Bijan or trade the pick for a better package.

For some reason you’re acting like I trashed his trade - I clearly did not. I’m moving on.
No, not acting like that at all. I understood your post and I agree with it, premise-wise.

I’m just saying that I see the QBs in this draft as a downgrade from TLaw, and that I understand overpaying for an asset if one prefers that asset.

Just lending context to the deal is all.

But hey, it’s not my deal. Cheers.
 
That's the rub, right? IF you're team is stacked everywhere except QB then this trade makes sense
In @Birdie048’s case it’s the opposite - he said it’s a total rebuild.

In that light getting the 23 year old QB who could be top 5 for the next 10-15 years also makes a lot of sense.

Perhaps not maximized trade value, but I don’t think it’s so off as to be terrible.
 
I am glad my trade opened the discussions on the value of the 1.01 Dynasty pick.
I was posing offers to several teams that had assets...
I tried to get Lamb/Chig/++ or ETN/Burks/1st but I give credit to my league mates for how it would work for them.

Sorry I did not include the long version of reasons/perspective for my Trading 1.01 for TLaw & Tee Higgins.
0.5 PPR Start 1QB, 1-4 RB, 3-6WR, 1-4TE (1.0PPR) - basically 3 Flex RB/WR/TE + K/DEF on 25 man roster spots with 2 IR

Total Rebuild - I had 8 of top 20 picks in 2023 and had 6 in 2024 Top 24 (3x1st)
QB - Huntly & J Love
RB - Gainwell, PStrong, James Robinson, ZWhite
WR - Calvin Ridley, Alex Pierce, J Metchie, WanDale Robinson, Renfrow, Kyle Phillips,
TE - empty

When I took this team over in 2021, it had 2 assets - 1.01 & AJB (still with Tenn). Nothing else. 39 Trades later...
Some bad (TJ Hock for Ridley & 1st that ended up 1.05) right before injury/suspension.
2023 Draft selections 1.01, 1.07, 1.08, 1.09, 2.01, 2.03, 2.07, 2.08
I need more than an elite RB on this rebuild. I need it all!

Moving the 1.01/1.09 for TLaw & Tee allows me to avoid relying on a Rookie QB crapshoot success. I was considering QB with 1.09 & I was high on CJ until the C2 reports (18%.. really?) and I am not a fan of petite Bryce (see Kyler Murray) Young. I can risk waiting on ARich in the 2nd now if available.
Teams hoard QBs. 4 teams have 3+ Starters
Best RB/WR at 1.07 & 1.08 available (Flowers, Achane/Carbs)
This eliminates the 1.09 Rookie QB consideration.

I see this trade as a win for my long term team rebuild.
 
Making a run to win this year and I wanted to add a third QB in SF best ball behind Herbert and Burrow (only a disappointing Matt Corral there now). QBs at a premium and there are only a couple teams that will/can even listen to offers for QBs.

Received: Jared Goff & Late 1st
Sent: DJ Moore & Mid 2nd

Question marks with Goff's future but hoping he at least lasts a year or two and can put up good enough numbers to score when Herbert or Burrow have a bad day or a bye with that talent surrounding him (although the Jamo suspension is a pain).

I like DJM and have been hoping for a QB upgrade to get him more productive but I'm not sure the yards and receptions will come from Fields and that CHI offense.
 
Making a run to win this year and I wanted to add a third QB in SF best ball behind Herbert and Burrow (only a disappointing Matt Corral there now). QBs at a premium and there are only a couple teams that will/can even listen to offers for QBs.

Received: Jared Goff & Late 1st
Sent: DJ Moore & Mid 2nd

Question marks with Goff's future but hoping he at least lasts a year or two and can put up good enough numbers to score when Herbert or Burrow have a bad day or a bye with that talent surrounding him (although the Jamo suspension is a pain).

I like DJM and have been hoping for a QB upgrade to get him more productive but I'm not sure the yards and receptions will come from Fields and that CHI offense.
If QBs are at a premium, the picks should be swapped imo.
And I assume this went down before the DJM 1 year suspension? [EDIT: it was CJ Moore who was suspended!!!! sorry]

even so, looks like an AMAZING deal for you.
 
Making a run to win this year and I wanted to add a third QB in SF best ball behind Herbert and Burrow (only a disappointing Matt Corral there now). QBs at a premium and there are only a couple teams that will/can even listen to offers for QBs.

Received: Jared Goff & Late 1st
Sent: DJ Moore & Mid 2nd

Question marks with Goff's future but hoping he at least lasts a year or two and can put up good enough numbers to score when Herbert or Burrow have a bad day or a bye with that talent surrounding him (although the Jamo suspension is a pain).

I like DJM and have been hoping for a QB upgrade to get him more productive but I'm not sure the yards and receptions will come from Fields and that CHI offense.
If QBs are at a premium, the picks should be swapped imo.
And I assume this went down before the DJM 1 year suspension?

even so, looks like an AMAZING deal for you.
come again?
 
FFPC 1QB

I gave Jameson Williams
I got 2.01, 2023 2nd

Didn't draft him in the first place, moving on
I argued earlier in this thread that Williams value should have gone up starting the season fully recovered. Now, this actually seems like a gift. Obviously this is only six games, but I’m now worried about this guy living up to his potential if he can’t follow simple rules.
ETA: I’m more trying to say missing so much time early in a career isn’t ideal.
 
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And I assume this went down before the DJM 1 year suspension?

D.J. Moore didn't get suspended for the year, did he?
Lol. I edited my post. It was CJ Moore who was suspended and I misread the news yesterday. Maybe I combined Williams (WR) and Moore in my brain and it came out as DJMoore.

my point still stands that I think he made out on the deal even with a recently reinstated DJ Moore ;)
 
I am glad my trade opened the discussions on the value of the 1.01 Dynasty pick.
I was posing offers to several teams that had assets...
I tried to get Lamb/Chig/++ or ETN/Burks/1st but I give credit to my league mates for how it would work for them.

Sorry I did not include the long version of reasons/perspective for my Trading 1.01 for TLaw & Tee Higgins.
0.5 PPR Start 1QB, 1-4 RB, 3-6WR, 1-4TE (1.0PPR) - basically 3 Flex RB/WR/TE + K/DEF on 25 man roster spots with 2 IR

Total Rebuild - I had 8 of top 20 picks in 2023 and had 6 in 2024 Top 24 (3x1st)
QB - Huntly & J Love
RB - Gainwell, PStrong, James Robinson, ZWhite
WR - Calvin Ridley, Alex Pierce, J Metchie, WanDale Robinson, Renfrow, Kyle Phillips,
TE - empty

When I took this team over in 2021, it had 2 assets - 1.01 & AJB (still with Tenn). Nothing else. 39 Trades later...
Some bad (TJ Hock for Ridley & 1st that ended up 1.05) right before injury/suspension.
2023 Draft selections 1.01, 1.07, 1.08, 1.09, 2.01, 2.03, 2.07, 2.08
I need more than an elite RB on this rebuild. I need it all!

Moving the 1.01/1.09 for TLaw & Tee allows me to avoid relying on a Rookie QB crapshoot success. I was considering QB with 1.09 & I was high on CJ until the C2 reports (18%.. really?) and I am not a fan of petite Bryce (see Kyler Murray) Young. I can risk waiting on ARich in the 2nd now if available.
Teams hoard QBs. 4 teams have 3+ Starters
Best RB/WR at 1.07 & 1.08 available (Flowers, Achane/Carbs)
This eliminates the 1.09 Rookie QB consideration.

I see this trade as a win for my long term team rebuild.
I mean I know we’ve all annointed Bijan, but the truth is he could end up being Trent Richardson, however unlikely.
I wasn’t saying anything about the players themselves and how it will work out. I just think you left value on the table. Lawrence and Higgins are surely good gets, so you’ll be happy.
 
12 Team 1 QB, 0.5PPR / 1.0 PPR TE
I am in complete Rebuild

I gave up 1.01, 1.09, 2.07

I received Jax QB Trevor Lawrence, Cinn WR Tee Higgins, TBB TE Cade Otton, 3.07

I still have 1.07, 1.08, 2.01, 2.03, 2.08 draft picks
I am a big TLaw & Tee fan. I pursued them, this was the price. I am happy with it.
No this is Bijan all day.
 
Making a run to win this year and I wanted to add a third QB in SF best ball behind Herbert and Burrow (only a disappointing Matt Corral there now). QBs at a premium and there are only a couple teams that will/can even listen to offers for QBs.

Received: Jared Goff & Late 1st
Sent: DJ Moore & Mid 2nd
Yeah that's a slam. I'm sort of the resident DJ Moore hater even though he is a Bear now. I would send him and the 2nd for the 1st alone most likely. Goff in a SF it's easy.
 
Regardless ,I’ve been told that in 1 QB leagues the 1.09 isn’t that valuable.
It could have been used to draft a QB. :shrug:
True. I don’t disagree. But maybe TLaw is a better QB than any in this draft. I’d certainly prefer him to Young or Stroud.
:shrug:

I get that it’s 1 QB. You still need a good QB.
That's the rub, right? IF you're team is stacked everywhere except QB then this trade makes sense. I don't see any of the rookies putting up top 15 numbers this season and NONE of them will outperform TLaw. So in that context, I don't have aproblem with making that trade. I'd like to get an uptier QB, but TLaw has the pieces in place to make a jump into elite status this year.
My 1 team was stacked everyone except QB (I only have Brady) and I had the 1.05, 1.13 and I decided to make my team even more stacked by trading the 1.05, 1.13 and my future 1st for the 1.01 to get Bijan and worry about QB later.

Then last night I traded McLaurin and Brian Robinson for Lamar.

Now I am stacked plus have my QB
 
FFPC SF

I gave 1.11, 5.03, 2023 3rd
I got Jacobs

Embarrassing....the other Owner should be put on fantasy probation and not be allowed to trade for 2 months....maybe longer.
They are brand new just took over an orphan and announced they're rebuilding. It was a firesale. Right before I made this deal they made the message board post. Quickly a deal emerged, not involved:

Jacobs owner gave Diggs, Najee
Jacobs owner got 2.08 & 2024 1st & 2nd (from last years champ)

I see it in my email and ran to offer whatever it was for Jacobs and they countered with the above and I slammed it.

Then I said to myself ok what else, only other asset I'm interested on their team is Lamar so I offer Gabe Davis and my future 1st and 2nd. No I didn't expect that to go through but figured a place to start). However!! Being FFPC you cannot offer your only 1st without paying your deposit first, so I clicked Davis and my 2nd and put in a message that said I'd pay the deposit and add the 1st to it.

Dude didn't understand that and got pissed thinking I was making some weird unethical offer to pay *his* deposit or whatever. Had to go back and forth a while to explain to him and then everything was fine. Didn't get Lamar nor would I think I would.

Truth be told, Diggs Najee and Jacobs (with Lamar) weren't gonna do it for this squad so I think they're right to tear down. But too cheap IMO and all done within minutes.
 
Regardless ,I’ve been told that in 1 QB leagues the 1.09 isn’t that valuable.
It could have been used to draft a QB. :shrug:
True. I don’t disagree. But maybe TLaw is a better QB than any in this draft. I’d certainly prefer him to Young or Stroud.
:shrug:

I get that it’s 1 QB. You still need a good QB.
That's the rub, right? IF you're team is stacked everywhere except QB then this trade makes sense. I don't see any of the rookies putting up top 15 numbers this season and NONE of them will outperform TLaw. So in that context, I don't have aproblem with making that trade. I'd like to get an uptier QB, but TLaw has the pieces in place to make a jump into elite status this year.
My 1 team was stacked everyone except QB (I only have Brady) and I had the 1.05, 1.13 and I decided to make my team even more stacked by trading the 1.05, 1.13 and my future 1st for the 1.01 to get Bijan and worry about QB later.

Then last night I traded McLaurin and Brian Robinson for Lamar.

Now I am stacked plus have my QB
How?! NM it's ok you don't have to explain just congratulations
 
You guys piling on the Jacobs side are going to be surprised that KeepTrade has it even, and Dynasty Dominator has it close for even 1QB.

Or you'll just hate calcs more.

I like the Jacobs side, too.

And dammit, I just weighed in on SF. But I wanted to join the crowd!
I've never seen a calculator that I can't immediately show a bunch of examples of how bad they are.
Can they be useful? I don't care what the answer to that question is. All I know is, they are very, very bad at actually evaluating trades.
 
12 Team 1 QB, 0.5PPR / 1.0 PPR TE
I am in complete Rebuild

I gave up 1.01, 1.09, 2.07

I received Jax QB Trevor Lawrence, Cinn WR Tee Higgins, TBB TE Cade Otton, 3.07

I still have 1.07, 1.08, 2.01, 2.03, 2.08 draft picks
I am a big TLaw & Tee fan. I pursued them, this was the price. I am happy with it.

I traded the 1.01 and I am happy.
My guess is the guy getting the 1.01 is pretty happy. You should not have had to trade the 1.09 in that deal.

I would taken the 1.01 over Tee Higgins and Lawrence straight up and I love me some Tee Higgins.
 
12 team full IDP TE+ SF

Gave: Terry, Kittle, Buckner
Got: 2.04, 2.08, 2 ‘24 1sts, ‘25 1st
Continuing to blow this team up.

Gave: Marquise Brown, Brian Burns, Isaiah Simmons
Got: 1.08, ‘25 1st
Picks side, but it’s close, depending on your IDP format.
We start 11 IDP and it’s balanced scoring so they’re valuable. I just figure if I’m hitting the reset button they’re volatile enough that I’ll sell anything I can for picks.
 
FFPC SF

I gave 1.11, 5.03, 2023 3rd
I got Jacobs

Embarrassing....the other Owner should be put on fantasy probation and not be allowed to trade for 2 months....maybe longer.
They are brand new just took over an orphan and announced they're rebuilding. It was a firesale. Right before I made this deal they made the message board post. Quickly a deal emerged, not involved:

Jacobs owner gave Diggs, Najee
Jacobs owner got 2.08 & 2024 1st & 2nd (from last years champ)

I see it in my email and ran to offer whatever it was for Jacobs and they countered with the above and I slammed it.

Then I said to myself ok what else, only other asset I'm interested on their team is Lamar so I offer Gabe Davis and my future 1st and 2nd. No I didn't expect that to go through but figured a place to start). However!! Being FFPC you cannot offer your only 1st without paying your deposit first, so I clicked Davis and my 2nd and put in a message that said I'd pay the deposit and add the 1st to it.

Dude didn't understand that and got pissed thinking I was making some weird unethical offer to pay *his* deposit or whatever. Had to go back and forth a while to explain to him and then everything was fine. Didn't get Lamar nor would I think I would.

Truth be told, Diggs Najee and Jacobs (with Lamar) weren't gonna do it for this squad so I think they're right to tear down. But too cheap IMO and all done within minutes.

I think sometimes brand-new Dynasty Owners do not understand the difference between fantasy draft picks and real NFL draft picks and will value 2nd and 3rd round picks more than they should.
 

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