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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (15 Viewers)

The Future Champs said:
Gottabesweet said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Gottabesweet said:
Michael Wilson for 4.4

12 team PPR.
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man, these are bargains - is this in a heavy cut-down about to happen format?
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No we have very, very, very deep rosters. So half the league hoards draft picks and half trade them all.
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I don’t get it. Trading a healthy 2nd year player who was a day 1 starter as a rookie for a late dart throw? It’s Homer Simpson choosing between the boat and the mystery box.
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I don't know, seems about right to me.

He only started because they had no one else. He did ok, about on par with how Nico did his first year which I bring up because that's who I comped him to so in that sense it's encouraging but I had him on two teams and cut him at the deadline. Fact he could not earn more targets when it was wide open is a concern and now of course they've added MHJ and have a stud TE so he's going to be down the pecking order.

But past my own opinions in FFPC standard leagues he was cut and redrafted 83 times and on average 35 rookies were drafted over him. I don't know about this league if some existing vets are cut and redrafted but even if none were not a ton of difference between 3.12 and 4.5.

So 4.4 sounds about right to me, chances are I'd have preferred an available rookie myself but can't say for sure unless I was looking at the board.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Jonesin For Some Football said:
but I don't think Johnson/Doubs/Davis are anything special so
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Of that side I basically look at it as 1.07 + Dionte for the geriatrics.

I do believe DJ has a chance to crack top 10 WR this year, as he should be a target hog. Theilen was fairly washed last year and put up monster numbers for the 1st half of the season.

But as I’ve said, I get the trade. I hope he brings home a ship this year to make it worth it.
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You are totally right on Thielen but I'm not nearly that high on Dionte. Dude doesn't work hard for anything. Won't block, doesn't finish routes, and still has a little person throwing him the ball. I do expect Carolina to be better and if Johnson is that good then this trade will definitely look much worse.
 
Gottabesweet said:
Chig Okomkwo for 5.1

12 team PPR.
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Chig all day. By the time you get to 5.1 you’ll be lucky to get a guy like Theo Johnson or Erick all.
Gottabesweet said:
Michael Wilson for 4.4

12 team PPR.
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I’m starting to think I’m too high on Michael Wilson but still, easily him.
InDitkaWeTrust said:
I've been on a roll in this league.

12 Team 1QB

Gave: 2.07, 2.09, 2025 2nd (late)
Got: 2025 1st (mid to late), Quinten Johnston
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Q didn’t look good yet but is worth more than a mid 2. I’ll take the 1st over the other picks.
 
FFPC, standard one QB, TEP of course:

Gave: Dalton Schultz
Got: 2025 second, projected early

Ok at TE, roster space a premium and forecast to be an issue at cuts next year so trying to get ahead of it but this really boils down to not sure how I'll know when to start Schultz as consistency seems like it's going to be an issue because of target comp. He's well paid with obvious outstanding young QB and will have big games but will I know when?
 
Gottabesweet said:
Stefon Diggs, Aaron Jones

For

DK Metcalf, Rhamondre Stevenson and Will Levis.

1 QB PPR.
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Probably in the minority but I take the DK, RS and Levis side. I think DK has a monster year because their defense is terrible and with a down year last year, DK was still top 20. I would argue he is the best player in the trade.

Texans WRs scare me. I think it'll be boom and bust every week with those guys. Stroud did it without Diggs and don't see him forcing balls to Diggs. I've always liked Aaron Jones but worry he will be in somewhat of a timeshare with Ty Chandler.

Unpopular opinion but I like Levis to break into top 15 FF QB this year.
 
TVT 0 N S T A said:
Gottabesweet said:
Stefon Diggs, Aaron Jones

For

DK Metcalf, Rhamondre Stevenson and Will Levis.

1 QB PPR.
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Probably in the minority but I take the DK, RS and Levis side. I think DK has a monster year because their defense is terrible and with a down year last year, DK was still top 20. I would argue he is the best player in the trade.

Texans WRs scare me. I think it'll be boom and bust every week with those guys. Stroud did it without Diggs and don't see him forcing balls to Diggs. I've always liked Aaron Jones but worry he will be in somewhat of a timeshare with Ty Chandler.

Unpopular opinion but I like Levis to break into top 15 FF QB this year.
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I don’t think that’s a minority view. I take the DK side easily.
Agree with you on Levis.
 
menobrown said:
jtd13 said:
Gatorade said:
Gottabesweet said:
12 Team PPR 1QB


DeAndre Swift, Elijah Moore, 4th and 5th in 2025

For Travis Etienne, 3.4 and 3.12
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ETN side easily
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I really like Swift, and even I don't understand why the former Etienne side would do this.
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Same, I like Swift, especially relative to his value but I sure don’t like him more then ETN and that’s what this trade is to me, it’s ETN plus for Swift.
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I think those 3rds need to be seconds, and flipped to the other side of the deal in place of 2025 4th and 5ths. Elijah Moore is worthless.
 
Gottabesweet said:
12 team PPR, 1QB

Greg Dortch, 5.1

For

Antonio Gibson
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Gibson easily although he’s unlikely to be a huge difference maker.
Gottabesweet said:
12 team PPR 1QB

Kenny Pickett, 4.2

for Will Levis
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Levis very easily.
Gottabesweet said:
12 Team PPR 1QB


DeAndre Swift, Elijah Moore, 4th and 5th in 2025

For Travis Etienne, 3.4 and 3.12
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:samurai: ETN by a country mile. The picks are free. This is like a Christmas present, getting what you wanted, and then being told there’s even more
Gottabesweet said:
Swift for Pollard and 3.10

Both were traded recently and traded again.

PPR
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Pollard > swift imo.
 
Gottabesweet said:
12 Team PPR 1QB


DeAndre Swift, Elijah Moore, 4th and 5th in 2025

For Travis Etienne, 3.4 and 3.12
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This is a terrible trade. Admittedly, I am down on Swift personally as I think he is in a terrible spot compared to the Eagles with no other real RBs and a great O-Line last year. Etienne is light years ahead of him as a fantasy asset and Moore is almost a roster clogger IMO. How in the heck did the Etienne side get way better picks too. This would be bad even if they didn't get any picks and the 2 3rds went with Swift. Bad managers are going to make bad trades I guess.
 
menobrown said:
titusbramble said:
Gottabesweet said:
Michael Wilson for 4.4

12 team PPR.
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Don't get this. I drafted him a fair bit higher than that last season and he's not exactly got into a worse situation since then
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Seems like his situation got a lot worse to me.
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Not sure how....He has a better #1 than Hollywood was last year and MHJ can run all of the routes so will take more coverage in the areas that Wilson will be free. Also, Kyler will be there all year where he got no time to work with him in the offseason and played half of the season with guys like Josh Dobbs and Clayton Tune. Along with a new coaching staff that should be better than what was there before.

I'm not saying he is going to be a monster or anything but I'd say his situation is definitely much better than it was last year. There are other new guys there but over 200 targets are missing from last year in Hollywood, Rondale Moore, and Zach Ertz so there is plenty left over. Along with better QB play & a more competent coach and I'm not sure how you can view it as worse.
 
Yeah, basically that. Had a wide range of outcomes coming out of Stanford, but now looks to have a base of NFL starter, now with an alpha WR opposite that'll draw all the best coverage as well as a much improved TE/QB situation than this time last year.
 
Jonesin For Some Football said:
menobrown said:
titusbramble said:
Gottabesweet said:
Michael Wilson for 4.4

12 team PPR.
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Don't get this. I drafted him a fair bit higher than that last season and he's not exactly got into a worse situation since then
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Seems like his situation got a lot worse to me.
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Not sure how....He has a better #1 than Hollywood was last year and MHJ can run all of the routes so will take more coverage in the areas that Wilson will be free. Also, Kyler will be there all year where he got no time to work with him in the offseason and played half of the season with guys like Josh Dobbs and Clayton Tune. Along with a new coaching staff that should be better than what was there before.

I'm not saying he is going to be a monster or anything but I'd say his situation is definitely much better than it was last year. There are other new guys there but over 200 targets are missing from last year in Hollywood, Rondale Moore, and Zach Ertz so there is plenty left over. Along with better QB play & a more competent coach and I'm not sure how you can view it as worse.
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I honestly don't see how it's not worse but we likely strongly disagree on having better options in the passing game actually helping a player have better stats in the passing game. That whole take has always been way off base to me.

He entered a team last year with Marquise Brown as the top WR on last year of his deal. So if Brown remained or not he's a lower volume type of WR who opens things up.


Now he finds himself with an alpha WR who along with McBrides emergence will dominate targets.


This is fantasy football, not real world efficiency.
 
titusbramble said:
menobrown said:
This is fantasy football, not real world efficiency.
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Ok, in fantasy terms, twelve months ago I had a dart throw. I now have a viable bye week fill in
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12 months ago you had a guy who had a shot at being the #2 in the pecking order with not so crazy chance of emerging as the #1 WR by the 2024 seasons. You don't have that anymore.

If you think the player showed enough that you are higher on him, ok, I don't really see it that way but it's apparent some here do.

But nothing about his situation is better and and with regards to his weekly fill in capability:

Week 1-WR81
Week 2-WR59
Week 3-WR43
Week 4- WR6
Week 5-WR78
Week 6-WR42
Week 7- WR60
Week 8-WR48
Week 10-WR54
Week 15- WR116 and below because he goose egged
Week 16-WR124 and below because again he goose egged
Week 17- WR24
*Week 18-not a recognized fantasy week but he was WR60, was actually his third best game of the year though.

He averaged 54 snaps a game, exactly 80% snaps in the games he played so was a full time player so wanted to remove that excuse.

So buddy, you still got a dart throw if you are putting him in a lineup. He offered two weeks out of 13 last year he was better then WR42. He may be a solid end of roster best ball player who can work his way into giving you a few weeks of use a year, but I don't see a single thing to suggest he's moved past the dart throw phase and has moved into being a viable weekly put in your lineup option.
 
menobrown said:
titusbramble said:
menobrown said:
This is fantasy football, not real world efficiency.
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Ok, in fantasy terms, twelve months ago I had a dart throw. I now have a viable bye week fill in
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12 months ago you had a guy who had a shot at being the #2 in the pecking order with not so crazy chance of emerging as the #1 WR by the 2024 seasons. You don't have that anymore.

If you think the player showed enough that you are higher on him, ok, I don't really see it that way but it's apparent some here do.

But nothing about his situation is better and and with regards to his weekly fill in capability:

Week 1-WR81
Week 2-WR59
Week 3-WR43
Week 4- WR6
Week 5-WR78
Week 6-WR42
Week 7- WR60
Week 8-WR48
Week 10-WR54
Week 15- WR116 and below because he goose egged
Week 16-WR124 and below because again he goose egged
Week 17- WR24
*Week 18-not a recognized fantasy week but he was WR60, was actually his third best game of the year though.

He averaged 54 snaps a game, exactly 80% snaps in the games he played so was a full time player so wanted to remove that excuse.

So buddy, you still got a dart throw if you are putting him in a lineup. He offered two weeks out of 13 last year he was better then WR42. He may be a solid end of roster best ball player who can work his way into giving you a few weeks of use a year, but I don't see a single thing to suggest he's moved past the dart throw phase and has moved into being a viable weekly put in your lineup option.
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Nice post. I moved him a few weeks back for 2.11 after drafting him 3.2 last year. Wasn't disappointed in his potential, but I agree with you about it being unlikely he's more than 3rd in the target pecking order behind what SHOULD be 2 elite targets in MHj and McBride.....I also loved the idea of being able to convert him into Burton, Polk or Baker this year.
 
sheerterror said:
menobrown said:
titusbramble said:
menobrown said:
This is fantasy football, not real world efficiency.
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Ok, in fantasy terms, twelve months ago I had a dart throw. I now have a viable bye week fill in
Click to expand...

12 months ago you had a guy who had a shot at being the #2 in the pecking order with not so crazy chance of emerging as the #1 WR by the 2024 seasons. You don't have that anymore.

If you think the player showed enough that you are higher on him, ok, I don't really see it that way but it's apparent some here do.

But nothing about his situation is better and and with regards to his weekly fill in capability:

Week 1-WR81
Week 2-WR59
Week 3-WR43
Week 4- WR6
Week 5-WR78
Week 6-WR42
Week 7- WR60
Week 8-WR48
Week 10-WR54
Week 15- WR116 and below because he goose egged
Week 16-WR124 and below because again he goose egged
Week 17- WR24
*Week 18-not a recognized fantasy week but he was WR60, was actually his third best game of the year though.

He averaged 54 snaps a game, exactly 80% snaps in the games he played so was a full time player so wanted to remove that excuse.

So buddy, you still got a dart throw if you are putting him in a lineup. He offered two weeks out of 13 last year he was better then WR42. He may be a solid end of roster best ball player who can work his way into giving you a few weeks of use a year, but I don't see a single thing to suggest he's moved past the dart throw phase and has moved into being a viable weekly put in your lineup option.
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Nice post. I moved him a few weeks back for 2.11 after drafting him 3.2 last year. Wasn't disappointed in his potential, but I agree with you about it being unlikely he's more than 3rd in the target pecking order behind what SHOULD be 2 elite targets in MHj and McBride.....I also loved the idea of being able to convert him into Burton, Polk or Baker this year.
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I mean it's all how you interpret things really. I don't think the addition of Harrison is suddenly going to make Zona a team that's going to be good and let them give Conner 20 carries a game. They're going to need to pass the ball. A lot. There should be enough targets to go around, and it's hard to argue that the quality of targets will be worse than last year. I can see why people would take the opposite side, sure, I just disagree with it
 
12 teamer, SF, 2 qb, 2rb, 3 wr, 1 TE, 1 addtl non qb flex

Traded away Waddle
Received Kenneth Walker, Ricky Pearsall

Not sure how I feel about it. But I think Pearsall ascends quickly in year 2
Nucleus of MH, Burton, Pearsall, London, Kirk, Jeudy at wr
Had zilch at rb as I build this team up
Bowers, Likely, Musgrave at TE
Purdy, Kyler, tua, young at qb
 
12 teams, 1QB, 10 starters, PPR

Gave: CMC

Got: Nabers

This one was bittersweet. I wasn't the one to iniate this offer and found it in my inbox. CMC has taken me to many a championships, but I can't pass up on this value. My strategy is to be out a year early on players whose value is high than hold and watch their trade flexibility evaporate. Nabers value is isolated and he's someone I have high hopes for. One step back, two forward!
 
dipandglide said:
12 teams, 1QB, 10 starters, PPR

Gave: CMC

Got: Nabers

This one was bittersweet. I wasn't the one to iniate this offer and found it in my inbox. CMC has taken me to many a championships, but I can't pass up on this value. My strategy is to be out a year early on players whose value is high than hold and watch their trade flexibility evaporate. Nabers value is isolated and he's someone I have high hopes for. One step back, two forward!
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See if you can snag a vet rb at the trade deadline.....sure, it won't be CMC value, but 3 years from now you will be so glad u did this deal
 
Enzo....the Baker said:
12 teamer, SF, 2 qb, 2rb, 3 wr, 1 TE, 1 addtl non qb flex

Traded away Waddle
Received Kenneth Walker, Ricky Pearsall

Not sure how I feel about it. But I think Pearsall ascends quickly in year 2
Nucleus of MH, Burton, Pearsall, London, Kirk, Jeudy at wr
Had zilch at rb as I build this team up
Bowers, Likely, Musgrave at TE
Purdy, Kyler, tua, young at qb
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It seems fair. But I'm higher than most on Walker and Pearsall.

Typically you don't want to trade the best player in start 9 leagues. Waddle is currently the best player.
 
14 team PPR 1.5 TE (Not involved)

Keenan Allen
Mike Gesicki
Cameron Dicker
$5
for
2025 1st round pick
 
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