** Official ** Eagles 2008 Thread (1 Viewer)

[phillyfan72]

Seriously, they played great against Arizona, but I can't seeing them ripping off 3 straight NFC East divisional games. Winning 3 out of 4 here will be impressive IMO.

While it will be difficult to do, it's not impossible. In 2006, the Eagles won 3 straight NFC East road games in December to make the playoffs, so it can be done. Of course, Jeff Garcia was the QB for those games, and not DMac. But, like Jeff said, if they win out, they should be in the playoffs. They would be 10-5-1, and I don't think you're gonna see 2 11-5 wildcard teams. One loss, though, and they're probably done.The Giants game next week got a little more interesting with Plaxico out at least through next week. We're gonna need some luck to get in the playoffs.

 

[Mighty Mice]

Can happen. Hope it happens. Unlikely to happen.

Arizona, NY. Wash, Cleveland, Dallas all in a row? What have I seen from my Iggles that makes me feel they are capable of 5 straight wins, 4 of which will come over likely playoff teams?

This team is way too inconsistent for that.

 

[renesauz]

One game at a time. it's a new conferance when 10-5-1 is not a gaurentee of a playoff berth...and that's the best Philly could hope for now.

I just want to see them play well the rest of the way, and maybe learn how to be a little more consistant.

 

[JuniorNB]

One game at a time. it's a new conferance when 10-5-1 is not a gaurentee of a playoff berth...and that's the best Philly could hope for now.I just want to see them play well the rest of the way, and maybe learn how to be a little more consistant.

I agree. I think the Cincinnatti tie and the close losses to Washington and Chicago sealed their fate as a non-playoff team this year, but if we can see Thursday night's performance carry-over I'll be happy.It was very refreshing to see McNabb realize he can tuck it in and gain some key third down yardage, as well as their success in short yardage situations. Dawkins also seemed to play with a fire that has been missing this year. He's the first safety all year that seemed to get inside Boldin's head.Anytime you have to have other team's help decide your fate it gets a little hairy. As teh saying goes, take it one game at a time and see what happens. They will be well-rested and confident going to New York next week. I expect a good showing.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I said it before, I'll say it again: the tie to Cinci f'd their playoff hopes. Had they won that game, I'd be on board with the playoff talk. I just don't see them beating the NYG right now. The rest of the games are winnable though.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Can we get some playoff talk in here? Cowboys game on now, Redskins game on tonight, all after a PHI win and ATL loss earlier.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Can we get some playoff talk in here? Cowboys game on now, Redskins game on tonight, all after a PHI win and ATL loss earlier.

All I know is that if that version of the Eagles team takes the field the rest of the season, there should be some worried teams out there.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Can we get some playoff talk in here? Cowboys game on now, Redskins game on tonight, all after a PHI win and ATL loss earlier.

All I know is that if that version of the Eagles team takes the field the rest of the season, there should be some worried teams out there.

Looks like we're 3/3 for the day with the Redskins to play tonight.A quick look at what we need (please correct me, very good chance I'm wrong here). Easiest path looks like:-ATL needs to still lose one of their remaining games-We need to win out.And we're in?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Can we get some playoff talk in here? Cowboys game on now, Redskins game on tonight, all after a PHI win and ATL loss earlier.

All I know is that if that version of the Eagles team takes the field the rest of the season, there should be some worried teams out there.

Looks like we're 3/3 for the day with the Redskins to play tonight. A quick look at what we need (please correct me, very good chance I'm wrong here). Easiest path looks like:-ATL needs to still lose one of their remaining games-We need to win out.And we're in?

That's correct.Atlanta has Tampa Bay and Minnesota the next two weeks.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Was it just a matter of how the game unfolded or is there another reason DeSean Jackson didn't record a single catch?

 

[renesauz]

GB fanboys. You guys are delusional...but whatever it takes for you to enjoy your Sundays for the next month.Has anybody figured out just what Reid does as head coach? Other than order lots of take out.

Please do us all a favor and either come eat some crow....or better yet...move to Detroit and adopt a team truly worth your particular brand of fan support.It's been a wierd season, but the Eagles' losses have generally been tough ones to good teams. On the flip side, we've had some VERY impressive wins against some of the "best" the NFL has to offer this year.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Redskins lose.... along with Dallas and the Giants (at the hands of Philly).

Giants win the NFC East.

TB/CAR cover NFC South winner and first wildcard (most likely).

Dallas at 8-5 is next.

Atlanta at 8-5 after that.

If Tampa Bay beats ATL next week and the Eagles win out (including over Dallas), they are in.

The good news if they get in - trips to Arizona followed by the Giants. After that, take your chance on the road in the NFC Championship.

Stranger things have happened...

 

[Lehigh98]

Typical Eagles, stringing us along to cause as much pain and frustration as possible.

I'm still though.

 

[Pyscho Wife]

Pete Prisco thinks the Eagles might be good enough for the playoffs just by winning 2 of the next 3 games and ending 9-6-1.

I still think he's wrong about Reid being one of the league's best coaches.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/features/wri...o/grades/week14

The Philadelphia Eagles are proof that it's dangerous to rush to judgments in the NFL.

Two weeks ago, we had the shovels out ready to bury them. Many of you wanted Donovan McNabb benched. And Andy Reid fired.

Eagles star Brian Westbrook ran wild all day at Giants Stadium. (AP)

Two games later, they're looking like a legitimate playoff contender.

Moral of the story: Things change quickly in the NFL.

By going to Giants Stadium and beating the Giants 20-14 -- in a game that wasn't that close -- the Eagles are now 7-5-1 and smack in the thick of the NFC playoff race.

Two Sundays ago they were drubbed by the Baltimore Ravens and McNabb was benched, leading to the dialogue that he and Reid were both better off gone from Eagles fans.

Still think that? About either one of them?

McNabb wasn't great against the Giants, throwing for 191 yards, but he didn't turn the ball over, which was the key. In fact, the Eagles didn't turn it over at all on their way to earning an A+ here in my weekly grades.

With his team turnover-less, Reid deserves props, especially in the cold, windy conditions.

Reid remains one of the league's best coaches. It was amazing to me how quickly people wanted to discount the successes he had in Philadelphia when they were lighting him up like your Christmas tree two weeks ago.

The Eagles play Cleveland at home next Monday and then close out with a road game at Washington and at home against Dallas. If they win two of three, a 9-6-1 record just might be good enough to get them into the playoffs.

The funny thing is that the tie with the Bengals, the one that started the McNabb bashing and Reid ripping, could be what gets them in since it isn't a loss.

Want to bet McNabb will know that a playoff game can't end in a tie?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

This is "out there", but the Eagles have a non-zero chance of clinching a playoff spot over the next two weeks:

1. Win at home vs. Cleveland.

2. Win at Washington in Week 16.

Assuming those two steps, here's what would be needed:

1. Dallas loses two games (realistic given games against the Giants and the Ravens)

2. Atlanta loses two games (possible given games against Tampa Bay and Minnesota)

3. Chicago and New Orleans lose one game. They play each other this week, so Eagles fans would be wise to root for Chicago, as the Saints go to Detroit in Week 16 while the Bears host Green Bay in Week 16.

If ALL OF THE ABOVE happen, Philadelphia is 9-5-1 and no team has fewer than seven losses, giving them a 1.5 game lead on the sixth seed (and possibly a shot at the #5 spot).

 

[stevegamer]

What a turnaround. There are some seriously pissed Eagles fans in my neighborhood:

McNabb is still the QB.

The team is winning and screwing up their draft pick.

Do all of you guys know people who are thinking like this?

 

[renesauz]

What a turnaround. There are some seriously pissed Eagles fans in my neighborhood:McNabb is still the QB.The team is winning and screwing up their draft pick.Do all of you guys know people who are thinking like this?

Unfortunately, yes.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

first, loved the game plan yesterday...running 41 times! Someone needs to make sure Reid and Marty feel ok, i think they may be ill.

second, the biggest play of the game was when Jacobs got hurt. i think he had 10 for 52 at that point and his being out completely changed the game IMO.

Third, this whole playoff hope thing sure is fun, until you realize its false hope. This team, and in particular McNabb, is not good enough to win it all.

Lastly, i dont care if the eagles make the playoffs...if they beat the Cowboys in wk 17 to keep THEM out of the playoffs

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

first, loved the game plan yesterday...running 41 times! Someone needs to make sure Reid and Marty feel ok, i think they may be ill.

second, the biggest play of the game was when Jacobs got hurt. i think he had 10 for 52 at that point and his being out completely changed the game IMO.

Third, this whole playoff hope thing sure is fun, until you realize its false hope. This team, and in particular McNabb, is not good enough to win it all.

Lastly, i dont care if the eagles make the playoffs...if they beat the Cowboys in wk 17 to keep THEM out of the playoffs

Get to the dance, see what happens.They'll have beaten at least two of the participants in the NFC, and those are their likely first two opponents (AZ, NYG).

 

[Chunky Soup]

first, loved the game plan yesterday...running 41 times! Someone needs to make sure Reid and Marty feel ok, i think they may be ill.second, the biggest play of the game was when Jacobs got hurt. i think he had 10 for 52 at that point and his being out completely changed the game IMO.Third, this whole playoff hope thing sure is fun, until you realize its false hope. This team, and in particular McNabb, is not good enough to win it all.Lastly, i dont care if the eagles make the playoffs...if they beat the Cowboys in wk 17 to keep THEM out of the playoffs

re second: honestly, aside from the bad Eagles DEF play on Jacobs for his long run, they held him in check very, very well. I liked when he got the ball more than the other guys. re third: don't count it out yet, guy. the way the NFC, and really all of the NFL, anything can happen. Giants last year for instance.

 

[Chunky Soup]

So a TB OR ATL loss in the next two weeks + us winning at WAS and home v DAL. I guess it could happen. Not feeling as good after ATL squeaked out a win v TB.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

So a TB OR ATL loss in the next two weeks + us winning at WAS and home v DAL. I guess it could happen. Not feeling as good after ATL squeaked out a win v TB.

San Diego is playing for their lives and could beat Tampa Bay who has lost two in a row.Atlanta goes to MIN, who is playing for anywhere from the #2 to the #4 seed. (Two MIN wins and two NYG losses give them a bye).Stranger things have happened.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Not that I'm rooting for it to shake out this way, but Dallas can clinch a playoff spot with a win and I believe TB and ATL losses (and I think CHI has to lose too).

That would make their efforts in Wk 17 meaningless, which could mean that the Eagles get an opponent who isn't giving 100% in Week 17.

 

[delusional]

Things i saw last night

1. I like the WRs..... <.< >.> Baskett Jackson Avant. I always been a fan of Avant and was giddy like a school girl seeing him get targets last night.

2. I think Reid has to go or hand over control of a few things. GM duties and play calling.

3. Kolb, for what it is worth, has not looked good in his limited opps.

4. Eagles have one of the best defenses in league????

This team is downright scary right now.

 

[Chunky Soup]

This team is downright scary right now.

Would really suck if they don't get into the playoffs. They could make a real nice run.

 

[scratcher]

I don't like the fact that our playoff chances arent in our hands. Also, I don't like the fact that one of the Williams will be missing for the ATL game.

But I do like that MIN has something to play for and will play hard this next game. I really cant see TB losing either of their next games so I really think this ATL/MIN game is our best chance of making the playoffs.

I hope the Eagles pull this off and make a playoff run ala the Giants last year...

 

[Jason Wood]

At the beginning of the year I thought 9-7 was the downside and 11-5 was the upside, with a wild card spot likely. Yet, it seems like this season has run the gamut where anything was possible. Yet with two games to go, 9 or 10 wins is in the offing and a playoff spot is possible, but not likely. It just gets maddening when you think of how inconsistent the play has been.

Wouldn't it be typical of us to have to beat Dallas in Week 17 and come up short?

 

[Zoomanji]

What a turnaround. There are some seriously pissed Eagles fans in my neighborhood:McNabb is still the QB.The team is winning and screwing up their draft pick.Do all of you guys know people who are thinking like this?

Unfortunately, yes.

They even post in this thread. Can't wait for Kolb, the 2nd coming of Bobby Hoying :( . Right Buddy?

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

I don't like the fact that our playoff chances arent in our hands. Also, I don't like the fact that one of the Williams will be missing for the ATL game.

But I do like that MIN has something to play for and will play hard this next game. I really cant see TB losing either of their next games so I really think this ATL/MIN game is our best chance of making the playoffs.

I hope the Eagles pull this off and make a playoff run ala the Giants last year...

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Tampa could easily lose this week. Chargers still have a shot at division. While they have been disapponting, they are still in every game and have lost many a hearbreak. Denver is at 4pm so they can't scoreboard watch either, have to play hard all game

Jemaine Phillips is out or the Bucs and it looke like Derrick Brooks will be out too. They are banged up at the QB position and have not exactly been world beaters all season.

As yo said Vikings still have alot to play for also, need to hold off bears and play for playoff position

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

GB fanboys. You guys are delusional...but whatever it takes for you to enjoy your Sundays for the next month.Has anybody figured out just what Reid does as head coach? Other than order lots of take out.

Please do us all a favor and either come eat some crow....or better yet...move to Detroit and adopt a team truly worth your particular brand of fan support.It's been a wierd season, but the Eagles' losses have generally been tough ones to good teams. On the flip side, we've had some VERY impressive wins against some of the "best" the NFL has to offer this year.

i'm here and there is no need to eat crow. They are still on the outside looking in, in case you havent noticed. If they do make the playoffs, i will gladly take my medicine here in the pool...because it means i'll get to watch the birds in the playoffs.And if anyone thinks last nights game is an indication that they are back, you are still kidding yourself. The Browns are AWFUL and the Eagles still gave them every chance to stick around in that game. The Eagles still suck in the red zone, McNabb still misses too many throws, and the WRs still cant handle press coverage. The fact that the D is top 5 this year is the only thing that gives me hope.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

What a turnaround. There are some seriously pissed Eagles fans in my neighborhood:McNabb is still the QB.The team is winning and screwing up their draft pick.Do all of you guys know people who are thinking like this?

Unfortunately, yes.

They even post in this thread. Can't wait for Kolb, the 2nd coming of Bobby Hoying . Right Buddy?

I assume i am the "Buddy" you are referring to. If so, please link to a post where i said Kolb is the answer. I am pretty sure i never said that. I have said that McNabb is not the answer, and i still stand by that. Kolb hasnt looked good and i wouldnt feel good handing the team over to him. But, McNabb is a choke artist who just provides false hope.you guys can question my "fandom" all you want. Just because i am a realist and dont provide blind support like some around here, doesnt make me any less of a fan of this team. like i said all along, i hope McNabb proves me wrong and they go on some kind of magical run this year. I just dont see it happening. If that makes me less of a fan, you can feel free to check the 25 years of ticket stubs from the 100+ games i've been to, or the airline tickets from the 25+ games i've gone to since living here in FL, or the 4 jerseys in my closet, or the eagles wallpaper on my cell phone, or the signed W. Montgomery picture hanging on my office wall, etc...

 

[Manster]

At the beginning of the year I thought 9-7 was the downside and 11-5 was the upside, with a wild card spot likely. Yet, it seems like this season has run the gamut where anything was possible. Yet with two games to go, 9 or 10 wins is in the offing and a playoff spot is possible, but not likely. It just gets maddening when you think of how inconsistent the play has been. Wouldn't it be typical of us to have to beat Dallas in Week 17 and come up short?

i kinda hope it comes down to the last game. thats what NFC East football is all about. As a Cowboys fan i'll be very nervous about that game. you can never count the Eagles out.

 

[Chunky Soup]

GB fanboys. You guys are delusional...but whatever it takes for you to enjoy your Sundays for the next month.Has anybody figured out just what Reid does as head coach? Other than order lots of take out.

Please do us all a favor and either come eat some crow....or better yet...move to Detroit and adopt a team truly worth your particular brand of fan support.It's been a wierd season, but the Eagles' losses have generally been tough ones to good teams. On the flip side, we've had some VERY impressive wins against some of the "best" the NFL has to offer this year.

i'm here and there is no need to eat crow. They are still on the outside looking in, in case you havent noticed. If they do make the playoffs, i will gladly take my medicine here in the pool...because it means i'll get to watch the birds in the playoffs.And if anyone thinks last nights game is an indication that they are back, you are still kidding yourself. The Browns are AWFUL and the Eagles still gave them every chance to stick around in that game. The Eagles still suck in the red zone, McNabb still misses too many throws, and the WRs still cant handle press coverage. The fact that the D is top 5 this year is the only thing that gives me hope.

30-10 against any team is pretty good.They're back.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

GB fanboys. You guys are delusional...but whatever it takes for you to enjoy your Sundays for the next month.Has anybody figured out just what Reid does as head coach? Other than order lots of take out.

Please do us all a favor and either come eat some crow....or better yet...move to Detroit and adopt a team truly worth your particular brand of fan support.It's been a wierd season, but the Eagles' losses have generally been tough ones to good teams. On the flip side, we've had some VERY impressive wins against some of the "best" the NFL has to offer this year.

i'm here and there is no need to eat crow. They are still on the outside looking in, in case you havent noticed. If they do make the playoffs, i will gladly take my medicine here in the pool...because it means i'll get to watch the birds in the playoffs.And if anyone thinks last nights game is an indication that they are back, you are still kidding yourself. The Browns are AWFUL and the Eagles still gave them every chance to stick around in that game. The Eagles still suck in the red zone, McNabb still misses too many throws, and the WRs still cant handle press coverage. The fact that the D is top 5 this year is the only thing that gives me hope.

30-10 against any team is pretty good.They're back.

Beating a horrible Browns team who started a 3rd string QB and getting by the struggling Giants does not mean they are back IMO. Next week should be a good test. The 'skins have to be motivated by their loss to the Bungles and would love to knock out an NFC East team from the playoffs. If the birds can pull one out next week, I may let myself have some hope again.The Eagles first 7 drives got into the Red Zone and they came away with only 2 TDs. Playoff football is won with Defense, opportunistic offense, and converting TDs when you have a chance. I see onyl 1 of those 3 right now in this squad

 

[fred_1_15301]

GB fanboys. You guys are delusional...but whatever it takes for you to enjoy your Sundays for the next month.Has anybody figured out just what Reid does as head coach? Other than order lots of take out.

Please do us all a favor and either come eat some crow....or better yet...move to Detroit and adopt a team truly worth your particular brand of fan support.It's been a wierd season, but the Eagles' losses have generally been tough ones to good teams. On the flip side, we've had some VERY impressive wins against some of the "best" the NFL has to offer this year.

i'm here and there is no need to eat crow. They are still on the outside looking in, in case you havent noticed. If they do make the playoffs, i will gladly take my medicine here in the pool...because it means i'll get to watch the birds in the playoffs.And if anyone thinks last nights game is an indication that they are back, you are still kidding yourself. The Browns are AWFUL and the Eagles still gave them every chance to stick around in that game. The Eagles still suck in the red zone, McNabb still misses too many throws, and the WRs still cant handle press coverage. The fact that the D is top 5 this year is the only thing that gives me hope.

30-10 against any team is pretty good.They're back.

The Eagles may be back but beating the Browns with Dorsey 30-10 really doesn't support anything. A good team like the Eagles playing at home on Monday night are supposed to destroy a team like that.

 

[stevegamer]

This isn't aimed at anyone here, but it's the MOST frustrating thing to me about your typical Philadelphia sports fan. There are two possible results:

1. Winning a championship.

2. Failure to win a championship and the team sucks.

Example: I have a friend who is an Eagles fan, but all he knows about football is what the Eagles are doing, and it normally means that they suck. When I went over playoff scenarios with him, he said I was nuts, since they couldn't still be alive. This discussion took place weeks ago when the Rams & Seahawks were alive in the NFC West race - before the Arizona game with the Eagles. He thinks McNabb is one of the worst QB's in the league - he's not a racist, but he normally blindly follows anything Limbaugh says, so he feels that McNabb is highly rated because he's black. Also, Reid is not good, and the team would be better without him - he's mediocre at best. Best part is this guy was an engineer and wants quantitative proof of most things.

It's incredibly frustrating to deal with people who demand proof of how good someone is, yet are completely blinded by knee-jerk reactions (what did we do last week), greed (must have title), bias/hatred of people different from them, and other emotions - yet they are "realists".

Reality:

Right now the Eagles are playing well, and it's enjoyable. They are not the best team in the NFC, but they are above average. And they'v had some tinkers, and the tie to Cincy was the worst. They are playing meaningful games, and it's good.

McNabb on the whole has been a very good QB over the decade. He's been good enough to win a Super Bowl, and I don't think that is really debateable, unless you feel Trent Dilfer is better.

Reid, on the whole, has done a good job over the decade. I think he's got too many hats, and things could improve with less responsibility, but it's hard to argue with the results this team has put up in his tenure. Fans don't like him not being outwardly fired-ud & emotional - the same way they know that Charlie Manuel won't ever win with the Phillies.

Is the current team strategy & mix going to put it all together and win the big one? Probably not. It needs to be the goal every year, but honestly only 1 teams wins. So do you blow up something good, or sdo you continue to see if it can be adapted? Steelers won with Cowher who "couldn't win"; Colts with Dungy (and Manning) who "couldn't win". Labels are handy sometimes, but they can get in the way.

 

[Cable]

This isn't aimed at anyone here, but it's the MOST frustrating thing to me about your typical Philadelphia sports fan. There are two possible results:1. Winning a championship.2. Failure to win a championship and the team sucks.Example: I have a friend who is an Eagles fan, but all he knows about football is what the Eagles are doing, and it normally means that they suck. When I went over playoff scenarios with him, he said I was nuts, since they couldn't still be alive. This discussion took place weeks ago when the Rams & Seahawks were alive in the NFC West race - before the Arizona game with the Eagles. He thinks McNabb is one of the worst QB's in the league - he's not a racist, but he normally blindly follows anything Limbaugh says, so he feels that McNabb is highly rated because he's black. Also, Reid is not good, and the team would be better without him - he's mediocre at best. Best part is this guy was an engineer and wants quantitative proof of most things.It's incredibly frustrating to deal with people who demand proof of how good someone is, yet are completely blinded by knee-jerk reactions (what did we do last week), greed (must have title), bias/hatred of people different from them, and other emotions - yet they are "realists".Reality:Right now the Eagles are playing well, and it's enjoyable. They are not the best team in the NFC, but they are above average. And they'v had some tinkers, and the tie to Cincy was the worst. They are playing meaningful games, and it's good.McNabb on the whole is a very good QB. He's good enough to win a Super Bowl, and I don't think that is really debateable, unless you feel Trent Dilfer is better.Reid, on the whole, is doing a good job. I think he's got too many hats, and things could improve with less responsibility, but it's hard to argue with the results this team has put up in his tenure. Fans don't like him not being outwardly fired-ud & emotional - the same way they know that Charlie Manuel won't ever win with the Phillies.Is the current team strategy & mix going to put it all together and win the big one? Probably not. It needs to be the goal every year, but honestly only 1 teams wins. So do you blow up something good, or sdo you continue to see if it can be adapted? Steelers won with Cowher who "couldn't win"; Colts with Dungy (and Manning) who "couldn't win". Labels are handy sometimes, but they can get in the way.

So what is wrong with expressing displeasure with this Eagles team? What's wrong with having an opinion on McNabb that is different than yours? What's wrong with disagreeing with you on Reid? Here's the thing...many of us are emotionally involved with this team. It's frustrating to see a pathetic performance like against the Bengals. There is no excuse for that. That just might have been the WORST Eagles game I have ever witnessed since in 2005 with the 42-0 MNF debacle against the Seahawks...on Reggie White tribute night even! I can't decide which was more pathetic. Why can't we voice displeasure with Reid over that one? Why can't we say that it's only taken Andrew Walter Reid 10 years and 10 games to figure out that a big RB that can move the pile on short yardage might not be a bad thing after all? Why can't we criticize the fact that the Eagles had no backup plan for FB if a converted DT didn't pan out? Why can't we question play calls, especially ones as pathetic as that goal line debacle in Chicago?I read and do not get your post. You say Reid is doing a good job but this team isn't all put together to win the 'big one'. Why isn't it? These are all Reid's players! He's working with the 'Eagles GM' to bring in quality players in the draft and free agency. This is a total Reid team and while you're saying he's a good coach you're also saying that this team isn't good enough. WHY ISN'T IT????????? He's had a decade to get this thing together!!!! Now with his back up against the wall the team finally responds. Couldn't put the Bengals away in 5 quarters, but now a fire is lit. Why now? Why not then? That is what frustrates me.

 

[stevegamer]

This isn't aimed at anyone here, but it's the MOST frustrating thing to me about your typical Philadelphia sports fan. There are two possible results:1. Winning a championship.2. Failure to win a championship and the team sucks.Example: I have a friend who is an Eagles fan, but all he knows about football is what the Eagles are doing, and it normally means that they suck. When I went over playoff scenarios with him, he said I was nuts, since they couldn't still be alive. This discussion took place weeks ago when the Rams & Seahawks were alive in the NFC West race - before the Arizona game with the Eagles. He thinks McNabb is one of the worst QB's in the league - he's not a racist, but he normally blindly follows anything Limbaugh says, so he feels that McNabb is highly rated because he's black. Also, Reid is not good, and the team would be better without him - he's mediocre at best. Best part is this guy was an engineer and wants quantitative proof of most things.It's incredibly frustrating to deal with people who demand proof of how good someone is, yet are completely blinded by knee-jerk reactions (what did we do last week), greed (must have title), bias/hatred of people different from them, and other emotions - yet they are "realists".Reality:Right now the Eagles are playing well, and it's enjoyable. They are not the best team in the NFC, but they are above average. And they'v had some tinkers, and the tie to Cincy was the worst. They are playing meaningful games, and it's good.McNabb on the whole is a very good QB. He's good enough to win a Super Bowl, and I don't think that is really debateable, unless you feel Trent Dilfer is better.Reid, on the whole, is doing a good job. I think he's got too many hats, and things could improve with less responsibility, but it's hard to argue with the results this team has put up in his tenure. Fans don't like him not being outwardly fired-ud & emotional - the same way they know that Charlie Manuel won't ever win with the Phillies.Is the current team strategy & mix going to put it all together and win the big one? Probably not. It needs to be the goal every year, but honestly only 1 teams wins. So do you blow up something good, or sdo you continue to see if it can be adapted? Steelers won with Cowher who "couldn't win"; Colts with Dungy (and Manning) who "couldn't win". Labels are handy sometimes, but they can get in the way.

So what is wrong with expressing displeasure with this Eagles team? What's wrong with having an opinion on McNabb that is different than yours? What's wrong with disagreeing with you on Reid? Here's the thing...many of us are emotionally involved with this team. It's frustrating to see a pathetic performance like against the Bengals. There is no excuse for that. That just might have been the WORST Eagles game I have ever witnessed since in 2005 with the 42-0 MNF debacle against the Seahawks...on Reggie White tribute night even! I can't decide which was more pathetic. Why can't we voice displeasure with Reid over that one? Why can't we say that it's only taken Andrew Walter Reid 10 years and 10 games to figure out that a big RB that can move the pile on short yardage might not be a bad thing after all? Why can't we criticize the fact that the Eagles had no backup plan for FB if a converted DT didn't pan out? Why can't we question play calls, especially ones as pathetic as that goal line debacle in Chicago?I read and do not get your post. You say Reid is doing a good job but this team isn't all put together to win the 'big one'. Why isn't it? These are all Reid's players! He's working with the 'Eagles GM' to bring in quality players in the draft and free agency. This is a total Reid team and while you're saying he's a good coach you're also saying that this team isn't good enough. WHY ISN'T IT????????? He's had a decade to get this thing together!!!! Now with his back up against the wall the team finally responds. Couldn't put the Bengals away in 5 quarters, but now a fire is lit. Why now? Why not then? That is what frustrates me.

It not that you can't be involved, and be frustrated. You clearly have reasons to be upset. Reid, over the decade, has done a good job. I should've been clearer about what I ment, and will edit my post to clarify. You can absolutely disagree with me. A question: I know a number of people who've been convinced that McNabb was going to fail from the get go - were they right? Has he been so bad that "the Eagles should've taken Couch and had him bust, and then we'd be working with somebody else by now and they might have been good instead of McNabb."The Bengals performance was absolutely pathetic. Some of the play calls have been pathetic. And not havign a big back or a real FB is TRULY pathetic; and are all a fan's right to question. But, fans need to at least occassionally be able to enjoy the ride they've gotten - and take away some positives. That's not something many Philadelphia fans can do; some never can unless they win it all.

 

[renesauz]

This isn't aimed at anyone here, but it's the MOST frustrating thing to me about your typical Philadelphia sports fan. There are two possible results:1. Winning a championship.2. Failure to win a championship and the team sucks.Example: I have a friend who is an Eagles fan, but all he knows about football is what the Eagles are doing, and it normally means that they suck. When I went over playoff scenarios with him, he said I was nuts, since they couldn't still be alive. This discussion took place weeks ago when the Rams & Seahawks were alive in the NFC West race - before the Arizona game with the Eagles. He thinks McNabb is one of the worst QB's in the league - he's not a racist, but he normally blindly follows anything Limbaugh says, so he feels that McNabb is highly rated because he's black. Also, Reid is not good, and the team would be better without him - he's mediocre at best. Best part is this guy was an engineer and wants quantitative proof of most things.It's incredibly frustrating to deal with people who demand proof of how good someone is, yet are completely blinded by knee-jerk reactions (what did we do last week), greed (must have title), bias/hatred of people different from them, and other emotions - yet they are "realists".Reality:Right now the Eagles are playing well, and it's enjoyable. They are not the best team in the NFC, but they are above average. And they'v had some tinkers, and the tie to Cincy was the worst. They are playing meaningful games, and it's good.McNabb on the whole is a very good QB. He's good enough to win a Super Bowl, and I don't think that is really debateable, unless you feel Trent Dilfer is better.Reid, on the whole, is doing a good job. I think he's got too many hats, and things could improve with less responsibility, but it's hard to argue with the results this team has put up in his tenure. Fans don't like him not being outwardly fired-ud & emotional - the same way they know that Charlie Manuel won't ever win with the Phillies.Is the current team strategy & mix going to put it all together and win the big one? Probably not. It needs to be the goal every year, but honestly only 1 teams wins. So do you blow up something good, or sdo you continue to see if it can be adapted? Steelers won with Cowher who "couldn't win"; Colts with Dungy (and Manning) who "couldn't win". Labels are handy sometimes, but they can get in the way.

So what is wrong with expressing displeasure with this Eagles team? What's wrong with having an opinion on McNabb that is different than yours? What's wrong with disagreeing with you on Reid? Here's the thing...many of us are emotionally involved with this team. It's frustrating to see a pathetic performance like against the Bengals. There is no excuse for that. That just might have been the WORST Eagles game I have ever witnessed since in 2005 with the 42-0 MNF debacle against the Seahawks...on Reggie White tribute night even! I can't decide which was more pathetic. Why can't we voice displeasure with Reid over that one? Why can't we say that it's only taken Andrew Walter Reid 10 years and 10 games to figure out that a big RB that can move the pile on short yardage might not be a bad thing after all? Why can't we criticize the fact that the Eagles had no backup plan for FB if a converted DT didn't pan out? Why can't we question play calls, especially ones as pathetic as that goal line debacle in Chicago?I read and do not get your post. You say Reid is doing a good job but this team isn't all put together to win the 'big one'. Why isn't it? These are all Reid's players! He's working with the 'Eagles GM' to bring in quality players in the draft and free agency. This is a total Reid team and while you're saying he's a good coach you're also saying that this team isn't good enough. WHY ISN'T IT????????? He's had a decade to get this thing together!!!! Now with his back up against the wall the team finally responds. Couldn't put the Bengals away in 5 quarters, but now a fire is lit. Why now? Why not then? That is what frustrates me.

It not that you can't be involved, and be frustrated. You clearly have reasons to be upset. Reid, over the decade, has done a good job. I should've been clearer about what I ment, and will edit my post to clarify. You can absolutely disagree with me. A question: I know a number of people who've been convinced that McNabb was going to fail from the get go - were they right? Has he been so bad that "the Eagles should've taken Couch and had him bust, and then we'd be working with somebody else by now and they might have been good instead of McNabb."The Bengals performance was absolutely pathetic. Some of the play calls have been pathetic. And not havign a big back or a real FB is TRULY pathetic; and are all a fan's right to question. But, fans need to at least occassionally be able to enjoy the ride they've gotten - and take away some positives. That's not something many Philadelphia fans can do; some never can unless they win it all.

The Super Bowl or bust mentality is worthless. It will get a fan nowhere but a trip to the Doctors for ulcers. Most NFL teams are trying like heck to win it all...and only one does.While there are things to be upset about with AR, McNabb, and this particular Eagles team...there are a lot of good things about them too, and they are horribly under-appreciated in general. Sometimes it's downright embarrasing to be an Eagles fan...not because of the play of the team on the field, but because of the the ridiculous mindset and general negative attitude of my fellow fans.

 

[Bushead]

This isn't aimed at anyone here, but it's the MOST frustrating thing to me about your typical Philadelphia sports fan. There are two possible results:1. Winning a championship.2. Failure to win a championship and the team sucks.Example: I have a friend who is an Eagles fan, but all he knows about football is what the Eagles are doing, and it normally means that they suck. When I went over playoff scenarios with him, he said I was nuts, since they couldn't still be alive. This discussion took place weeks ago when the Rams & Seahawks were alive in the NFC West race - before the Arizona game with the Eagles. He thinks McNabb is one of the worst QB's in the league - he's not a racist, but he normally blindly follows anything Limbaugh says, so he feels that McNabb is highly rated because he's black. Also, Reid is not good, and the team would be better without him - he's mediocre at best. Best part is this guy was an engineer and wants quantitative proof of most things.It's incredibly frustrating to deal with people who demand proof of how good someone is, yet are completely blinded by knee-jerk reactions (what did we do last week), greed (must have title), bias/hatred of people different from them, and other emotions - yet they are "realists".Reality:Right now the Eagles are playing well, and it's enjoyable. They are not the best team in the NFC, but they are above average. And they'v had some tinkers, and the tie to Cincy was the worst. They are playing meaningful games, and it's good.McNabb on the whole is a very good QB. He's good enough to win a Super Bowl, and I don't think that is really debateable, unless you feel Trent Dilfer is better.Reid, on the whole, is doing a good job. I think he's got too many hats, and things could improve with less responsibility, but it's hard to argue with the results this team has put up in his tenure. Fans don't like him not being outwardly fired-ud & emotional - the same way they know that Charlie Manuel won't ever win with the Phillies.Is the current team strategy & mix going to put it all together and win the big one? Probably not. It needs to be the goal every year, but honestly only 1 teams wins. So do you blow up something good, or sdo you continue to see if it can be adapted? Steelers won with Cowher who "couldn't win"; Colts with Dungy (and Manning) who "couldn't win". Labels are handy sometimes, but they can get in the way.

So what is wrong with expressing displeasure with this Eagles team? What's wrong with having an opinion on McNabb that is different than yours? What's wrong with disagreeing with you on Reid? Here's the thing...many of us are emotionally involved with this team. It's frustrating to see a pathetic performance like against the Bengals. There is no excuse for that. That just might have been the WORST Eagles game I have ever witnessed since in 2005 with the 42-0 MNF debacle against the Seahawks...on Reggie White tribute night even! I can't decide which was more pathetic. Why can't we voice displeasure with Reid over that one? Why can't we say that it's only taken Andrew Walter Reid 10 years and 10 games to figure out that a big RB that can move the pile on short yardage might not be a bad thing after all? Why can't we criticize the fact that the Eagles had no backup plan for FB if a converted DT didn't pan out? Why can't we question play calls, especially ones as pathetic as that goal line debacle in Chicago?I read and do not get your post. You say Reid is doing a good job but this team isn't all put together to win the 'big one'. Why isn't it? These are all Reid's players! He's working with the 'Eagles GM' to bring in quality players in the draft and free agency. This is a total Reid team and while you're saying he's a good coach you're also saying that this team isn't good enough. WHY ISN'T IT????????? He's had a decade to get this thing together!!!! Now with his back up against the wall the team finally responds. Couldn't put the Bengals away in 5 quarters, but now a fire is lit. Why now? Why not then? That is what frustrates me.

I think understand his point. I am at every game for 15+ years now, I am emotionaly involved. Monday night sitting in the stands, there is a good percentage of people actually rooting for this team to lose out - just so they get rid of Reid and McNabb. While I certainly complain about bad games or bad decisions, you have lost your way when you are rooting for your team to lose IMO - no matter what your opinion of the coach and QB is. Particularly a team that has a fighting chance to make the playoffs. That is what is frustrating to me about that portion of our fanbase.If you take a step back and look at this team, how bad is it really? Through 15 weeks they have the number 3 defense in the league. The number 7 offense. McNabb could get to 4000 yards and arguably have one of his best seasons as an Eagle. If they fail to make the playoffs this year, it will be the first time in a decade they have missed in consecutive years.Everyone is entitled to say/think whatever they want, but I cannot get on board with the notion that it is time to ship these two off just becasue they haven't won a super bowl. Every team is going to throw up a stinker from time to time. The two games you pointed were probably the worst I have seen as well. You aren't going to find many teams that don't have a weakness somewhere on their roster. Fact is, this Eagles team is in the fight every year no matter how many times their window has been deemed closed. For me, that is what I want as a fan. I am certainly as anxioius as anyone to get a title and am disappointed they haven't gotten it done, but I have felt they have had a legitamate shot almost every year at the beginning of the season. If they can sneak into the playoffs this year they could be dangerous, who is playing better ball over the past 3 weeks? Carolina and maybe Dallas? I just wish the fans/media (those that never seem to have anything positive to say) would stop complaining for a minute and realize, at least for now, there is nothing to complain about. Just enjoy your team, they are playing great football and are still alive in the playoff hunt. There will be plenty of time to debate the future and what should be fixed in the offseason.

 

[Chunky Soup]

GB fanboys. You guys are delusional...but whatever it takes for you to enjoy your Sundays for the next month.Has anybody figured out just what Reid does as head coach? Other than order lots of take out.

Please do us all a favor and either come eat some crow....or better yet...move to Detroit and adopt a team truly worth your particular brand of fan support.It's been a wierd season, but the Eagles' losses have generally been tough ones to good teams. On the flip side, we've had some VERY impressive wins against some of the "best" the NFL has to offer this year.

i'm here and there is no need to eat crow. They are still on the outside looking in, in case you havent noticed. If they do make the playoffs, i will gladly take my medicine here in the pool...because it means i'll get to watch the birds in the playoffs.And if anyone thinks last nights game is an indication that they are back, you are still kidding yourself. The Browns are AWFUL and the Eagles still gave them every chance to stick around in that game. The Eagles still suck in the red zone, McNabb still misses too many throws, and the WRs still cant handle press coverage. The fact that the D is top 5 this year is the only thing that gives me hope.

30-10 against any team is pretty good.They're back.

Beating a horrible Browns team who started a 3rd string QB and getting by the struggling Giants does not mean they are back IMO. Next week should be a good test. The 'skins have to be motivated by their loss to the Bungles and would love to knock out an NFC East team from the playoffs. If the birds can pull one out next week, I may let myself have some hope again.The Eagles first 7 drives got into the Red Zone and they came away with only 2 TDs. Playoff football is won with Defense, opportunistic offense, and converting TDs when you have a chance. I see onyl 1 of those 3 right now in this squad

If you want to shrug off big wins v. ARI, NYG and a game that was a blowout at halftime on Monday, then go ahead. You're really missing out on the fun, however.

 

[Game Time]

This isn't aimed at anyone here, but it's the MOST frustrating thing to me about your typical Philadelphia sports fan. There are two possible results:1. Winning a championship.2. Failure to win a championship and the team sucks.Example: I have a friend who is an Eagles fan, but all he knows about football is what the Eagles are doing, and it normally means that they suck. When I went over playoff scenarios with him, he said I was nuts, since they couldn't still be alive. This discussion took place weeks ago when the Rams & Seahawks were alive in the NFC West race - before the Arizona game with the Eagles. He thinks McNabb is one of the worst QB's in the league - he's not a racist, but he normally blindly follows anything Limbaugh says, so he feels that McNabb is highly rated because he's black. Also, Reid is not good, and the team would be better without him - he's mediocre at best. Best part is this guy was an engineer and wants quantitative proof of most things.It's incredibly frustrating to deal with people who demand proof of how good someone is, yet are completely blinded by knee-jerk reactions (what did we do last week), greed (must have title), bias/hatred of people different from them, and other emotions - yet they are "realists".Reality:Right now the Eagles are playing well, and it's enjoyable. They are not the best team in the NFC, but they are above average. And they'v had some tinkers, and the tie to Cincy was the worst. They are playing meaningful games, and it's good.McNabb on the whole is a very good QB. He's good enough to win a Super Bowl, and I don't think that is really debateable, unless you feel Trent Dilfer is better.Reid, on the whole, is doing a good job. I think he's got too many hats, and things could improve with less responsibility, but it's hard to argue with the results this team has put up in his tenure. Fans don't like him not being outwardly fired-ud & emotional - the same way they know that Charlie Manuel won't ever win with the Phillies.Is the current team strategy & mix going to put it all together and win the big one? Probably not. It needs to be the goal every year, but honestly only 1 teams wins. So do you blow up something good, or sdo you continue to see if it can be adapted? Steelers won with Cowher who "couldn't win"; Colts with Dungy (and Manning) who "couldn't win". Labels are handy sometimes, but they can get in the way.

So what is wrong with expressing displeasure with this Eagles team? What's wrong with having an opinion on McNabb that is different than yours? What's wrong with disagreeing with you on Reid? Here's the thing...many of us are emotionally involved with this team. It's frustrating to see a pathetic performance like against the Bengals. There is no excuse for that. That just might have been the WORST Eagles game I have ever witnessed since in 2005 with the 42-0 MNF debacle against the Seahawks...on Reggie White tribute night even! I can't decide which was more pathetic. Why can't we voice displeasure with Reid over that one? Why can't we say that it's only taken Andrew Walter Reid 10 years and 10 games to figure out that a big RB that can move the pile on short yardage might not be a bad thing after all? Why can't we criticize the fact that the Eagles had no backup plan for FB if a converted DT didn't pan out? Why can't we question play calls, especially ones as pathetic as that goal line debacle in Chicago?I read and do not get your post. You say Reid is doing a good job but this team isn't all put together to win the 'big one'. Why isn't it? These are all Reid's players! He's working with the 'Eagles GM' to bring in quality players in the draft and free agency. This is a total Reid team and while you're saying he's a good coach you're also saying that this team isn't good enough. WHY ISN'T IT????????? He's had a decade to get this thing together!!!! Now with his back up against the wall the team finally responds. Couldn't put the Bengals away in 5 quarters, but now a fire is lit. Why now? Why not then? That is what frustrates me.

I think understand his point. I am at every game for 15+ years now, I am emotionaly involved. Monday night sitting in the stands, there is a good percentage of people actually rooting for this team to lose out - just so they get rid of Reid and McNabb. While I certainly complain about bad games or bad decisions, you have lost your way when you are rooting for your team to lose IMO - no matter what your opinion of the coach and QB is. Particularly a team that has a fighting chance to make the playoffs. That is what is frustrating to me about that portion of our fanbase.If you take a step back and look at this team, how bad is it really? Through 15 weeks they have the number 3 defense in the league. The number 7 offense. McNabb could get to 4000 yards and arguably have one of his best seasons as an Eagle. If they fail to make the playoffs this year, it will be the first time in a decade they have missed in consecutive years.Everyone is entitled to say/think whatever they want, but I cannot get on board with the notion that it is time to ship these two off just becasue they haven't won a super bowl. Every team is going to throw up a stinker from time to time. The two games you pointed were probably the worst I have seen as well. You aren't going to find many teams that don't have a weakness somewhere on their roster. Fact is, this Eagles team is in the fight every year no matter how many times their window has been deemed closed. For me, that is what I want as a fan. I am certainly as anxioius as anyone to get a title and am disappointed they haven't gotten it done, but I have felt they have had a legitamate shot almost every year at the beginning of the season. If they can sneak into the playoffs this year they could be dangerous, who is playing better ball over the past 3 weeks? Carolina and maybe Dallas? I just wish the fans/media (those that never seem to have anything positive to say) would stop complaining for a minute and realize, at least for now, there is nothing to complain about. Just enjoy your team, they are playing great football and are still alive in the playoff hunt. There will be plenty of time to debate the future and what should be fixed in the offseason.

Agreed wholeheartedly..... Most fans have not enjoyed the ride we've been on under AR and Mc5 ..... Every single year this team was very competitive with a CHANCE to go all the way.. How many other franchises can say that year in/year out (not too many)... I also have disagreed with some decisions, but I can't complain with the results.... Every year playing meaningful games in Dec... pretty cool as a fan.... This team reminds me of the Giants from last year.. playing their best ball right now... If we can get through these next two weeks and into the playoffs, I would not want to play us! The Super Bowl or bust mentality is had by many, but I for one love my Eagles and will always root for them... Do Eagles fans get angry/frustrated ... HELL yeah.. But that is what makes us great the passion! 4 cahmpionship gmaes, 1 super bowl over the last 10 years.. not too bad..... Mc5 gets way too much critcism.... Did Jim Kelly get criticized in Buffalo... Guess he sucks too.. Didn't think so........

 

[Manster]

the thing that scares me most about mcnabb is his experience. nothing is gonnna rattle this guy. he's been through it all.

i can see this in Romo a bit. now before you rip into me, hear me out. mcnabb has a certain air about him that can only come from being hardened in battle. Romo seems to be able to shake things off well, and is humble with success. as he gains experience, i believe he's got the mentality to get to the next level.

this matchup could have the biggest of implications. one team could slip in, one go home. maybe mcnabb's last shot, and Romo has to prove he can get to the next level. this is what December football is all about. and i dont think any NFC foe will want to face either of these teams on the rise.

that said, Dallas has a tough one this week, and may not get it done. and the skins are no gimme. i honestly hope we both win and meet with playoff hopes week 17.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

ok, new plan. After the team invariably chokes this year at the penultimate moment, the Eagles need to regroup, keep McNabb, go after Braylon Edwards (LINK) by offering up Lito+1. AND then if the Giants are crazy enough to let Jacobs walk, pay that man and bring him to Philly.

I'm not a McNabb fan, but if you can keep the pressure off him (mental, not physical) he can play well. Surround him with so many playmakers and so much talent that he never feels like he has to make a play. That would be Braylon and Fraction J at WR, Westy and Jacobs at RB, and McNabbs fragile psyche at QB.

For those who say that its either win or go home with Philly fans...uh yeah, whats wrong with that? You either do whatever it takes to win the SB, or you get called out for it.

 

[Game Time]

Jacobs in Philly green would make me very happy!

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

There's nothing wrong with being a contender every year. That's great and I really appreciate that from the organization.

However, being "just good enough" breeds two things - complacency and greed. The first comes from always dominating the NFC East (and the NFC) when Philly was always in the NFC Championship game. I fell victim to this as well as I rarely cared that much about the regular season. The one year the Eagles missed the playoffs I took that shock to the system and realized what exactly we had come to expect and took note of what it felt like not to be in the playoffs - and it sucks.

The second is greed. If you always get something, even if it is awesome, you will get bored of it because you ALWAYS get it. "Oh man, filet mignon and lobster AGAIN!!!!" mentality. You will want more. Demand more. Won't be satisfied with the same old, same old. That's how Philly fans want the Super Bowl victory. That plus the envy of every other NFC East team having at least one Lombardi trophy - actually they all have several. Philly is the oddball in the division, like it or not.

The Super Bowl or bust mentality makes sense to me, because it is "been there, done that" for everything else. Give me something that hasn't ever happened - that's the goal. Settle for nothing less.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

There's nothing wrong with being a contender every year. That's great and I really appreciate that from the organization.However, being "just good enough" breeds two things - complacency and greed. The first comes from always dominating the NFC East (and the NFC) when Philly was always in the NFC Championship game. I fell victim to this as well as I rarely cared that much about the regular season. The one year the Eagles missed the playoffs I took that shock to the system and realized what exactly we had come to expect and took note of what it felt like not to be in the playoffs - and it sucks.The second is greed. If you always get something, even if it is awesome, you will get bored of it because you ALWAYS get it. "Oh man, filet mignon and lobster AGAIN!!!!" mentality. You will want more. Demand more. Won't be satisfied with the same old, same old. That's how Philly fans want the Super Bowl victory. That plus the envy of every other NFC East team having at least one Lombardi trophy - actually they all have several. Philly is the oddball in the division, like it or not.The Super Bowl or bust mentality makes sense to me, because it is "been there, done that" for everything else. Give me something that hasn't ever happened - that's the goal. Settle for nothing less.

i remember the Kotite years. i know just how bad it can be. And I can deal with mediocre results (for a little while) if they are paired with extreme effort and honesty. But when arrogance and complacency produce the same results, it is completely unacceptable to me.thats not to say that the current players and staff can't change and bring the fire back. But, i will believe it when i see it. I will also trust McNabb in a big moment when he proves he can handle it. Step 1, dont puke on the field. no point in moving on to step 2 until he can handle step 1

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

Jacobs in Philly green would make me very happy!

Jacobs is going to ask for a big time deal. With the depth the Giants have at RB and Jacobs injury issues, i am not sure they will take the bait. I think the situation in Philly would be ideal for Jacobs since he would only have to carry about 10-15 times per game. Of course that means the birds would have to run the ball 30 times a game. not sure if i see stubborn Andy accepting that

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Jacobs in Philly green would make me very happy!

Jacobs is going to ask for a big time deal. With the depth the Giants have at RB and Jacobs injury issues, i am not sure they will take the bait. I think the situation in Philly would be ideal for Jacobs since he would only have to carry about 10-15 times per game. Of course that means the birds would have to run the ball 30 times a game. not sure if i see stubborn Andy accepting that

The Eagles will have to draft a RB next year. Westbrook will be 30 next September and Buckhalter is almost a full year older.They need another RB in the mix to groom for 2010, IMHO.

 

[Game Time]

YEah, no doubt about that.. They will have a bunch of holes to fill next year.... I still think Jacobs would be a great fit.... Though I think the GMan tag him...