** Official ** Eagles 2008 Thread (2 Viewers)

[dirtywaters20]

Thanks DH.Sign me up for DeSean Jackson at #19.

Really????Doesn't his size scare you?Don't we need a big #1 not another K. Curtis?

My thoughts exactly. I'd much rather have Sweed, Hardy or Kelly. At 175 pounds soaking wet, Jackson scares me.

His real value is as a returner. If he's Devin Hester Jr, you have to take him at 19, no?

Stop looking at him as just a WR. He's a ST ace that can help you win now. Let him grow into the mold as an NFL WR on his own timeline, but if you're looking for an impact player for 2008, it won't be as a starting WR.The Eagles will be drafting for the most part for 2009 and beyond, not the now. A KR/PR ace can help you this season, however. Add in that he can stretch the field in a 4-wide setup (which also strips down his need to learn the entire AR playbook, a daunting task for a rook) and you can see how he can help Philly win this season.

As I said, if he's the guy you're looking at, I'd go with a OT at 1.19 and trade Lito and their second to move up to get Jackson. I think you can get into the top three picks in the second if you offer that package.

You take best player available at 19 & odds are it isn't going to be a wide receiver. I will admit the prospects of having a game-changing type returner that can flip the field is extremely tempting; I just can't get over the fact that he's just shy of 170 lbs. How the hell is going to get off a jam? Maybe you're better off from a value standpoint just waiting until the second or third, and drafting Eddie Royal or Dexter Jackson.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Thanks DH.Sign me up for DeSean Jackson at #19.

Really????Doesn't his size scare you?Don't we need a big #1 not another K. Curtis?

My thoughts exactly. I'd much rather have Sweed, Hardy or Kelly. At 175 pounds soaking wet, Jackson scares me.

His real value is as a returner. If he's Devin Hester Jr, you have to take him at 19, no?

Stop looking at him as just a WR. He's a ST ace that can help you win now. Let him grow into the mold as an NFL WR on his own timeline, but if you're looking for an impact player for 2008, it won't be as a starting WR.The Eagles will be drafting for the most part for 2009 and beyond, not the now. A KR/PR ace can help you this season, however. Add in that he can stretch the field in a 4-wide setup (which also strips down his need to learn the entire AR playbook, a daunting task for a rook) and you can see how he can help Philly win this season.

As I said, if he's the guy you're looking at, I'd go with a OT at 1.19 and trade Lito and their second to move up to get Jackson. I think you can get into the top three picks in the second if you offer that package.

I could live with this.I haven't kept up with the rising / falling tide of players in a bit with the mocks (which usually are off anyway). At one point get DJax2 you'd need to grab him here.I'm just hoping that Philly devotes resources to KR/PR.With Samuel in town, Philly probably doesn't go DB any longer with McKelvin (if he even gets to 19), so I was thinking Jackson.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Thanks DH.Sign me up for DeSean Jackson at #19.

Really????Doesn't his size scare you?Don't we need a big #1 not another K. Curtis?

My thoughts exactly. I'd much rather have Sweed, Hardy or Kelly. At 175 pounds soaking wet, Jackson scares me.

His real value is as a returner. If he's Devin Hester Jr, you have to take him at 19, no?

Stop looking at him as just a WR. He's a ST ace that can help you win now. Let him grow into the mold as an NFL WR on his own timeline, but if you're looking for an impact player for 2008, it won't be as a starting WR.The Eagles will be drafting for the most part for 2009 and beyond, not the now. A KR/PR ace can help you this season, however. Add in that he can stretch the field in a 4-wide setup (which also strips down his need to learn the entire AR playbook, a daunting task for a rook) and you can see how he can help Philly win this season.

As I said, if he's the guy you're looking at, I'd go with a OT at 1.19 and trade Lito and their second to move up to get Jackson. I think you can get into the top three picks in the second if you offer that package.

I could live with this.I haven't kept up with the rising / falling tide of players in a bit with the mocks (which usually are off anyway). At one point get DJax2 you'd need to grab him here.I'm just hoping that Philly devotes resources to KR/PR.With Samuel in town, Philly probably doesn't go DB any longer with McKelvin (if he even gets to 19), so I was thinking Jackson.

IIRC, Jackson had a mediocre combine. I believe Andy D had him going in the second in his most recent mock (I think he had the Eagles taking Sweed).Also, you have to appreciate a Bears fan spending most of his time in an Eagles thread. *sigh* My father tried though.....

 

[allaces10]

Derrick Burgess

Al Harris

Rod Hood

Guys that they could have had but cut

Raheem Brock

Jabar Gaffney

Harris and Hood wanted and got a starting job/money elsewhere. There is no way the Eagles could have kept them with the CBs on their roster.Burgess and Brock were mistakes to let go.

Gaffney is an average WR, of which they already have some...

Brock was a seventh round draft pick

Relevance?

Simple...someone's point was that the eagles have been right with the vast majority of their decisions to let free agents go...and you pointed out a list of players that didnt take one step in refuting that assertion:Burgess was hurt for years as an eagle and couldnt get on the field and the eagles gave up on him..he had done NOTHING.

Harris was traded..not a free agent they let go.

Hood was a decent player who wanted to start elsewhere and was blocked by the eagles excellent corners...the eagles werent going to pay him starter money as a backup.

Gaffney is a dime dozen receiver...shrug...not exactly feeling his loss.

Brock was a 7th round draft pick that was never even signed and never even made the team...due to some rookie cap quirks that year with the signings...the eagles and his agent couldnt agree on a contract so he was just let go. The fact that he went on to play pretty well for the colts is moot.

 

[dirtywaters20]

Thanks DH.

Sign me up for DeSean Jackson at #19.

Really????Doesn't his size scare you?

Don't we need a big #1 not another K. Curtis?

My thoughts exactly. I'd much rather have Sweed, Hardy or Kelly. At 175 pounds soaking wet, Jackson scares me.

His real value is as a returner. If he's Devin Hester Jr, you have to take him at 19, no?

Stop looking at him as just a WR. He's a ST ace that can help you win now. Let him grow into the mold as an NFL WR on his own timeline, but if you're looking for an impact player for 2008, it won't be as a starting WR.

The Eagles will be drafting for the most part for 2009 and beyond, not the now. A KR/PR ace can help you this season, however. Add in that he can stretch the field in a 4-wide setup (which also strips down his need to learn the entire AR playbook, a daunting task for a rook) and you can see how he can help Philly win this season.

As I said, if he's the guy you're looking at, I'd go with a OT at 1.19 and trade Lito and their second to move up to get Jackson. I think you can get into the top three picks in the second if you offer that package.

I could live with this.I haven't kept up with the rising / falling tide of players in a bit with the mocks (which usually are off anyway). At one point get DJax2 you'd need to grab him here.

I'm just hoping that Philly devotes resources to KR/PR.

With Samuel in town, Philly probably doesn't go DB any longer with McKelvin (if he even gets to 19), so I was thinking Jackson.

What if Lito is moved? Your one injury away from Joselio Hanson starting.

 

[Domination]

I would be more inclined to take Jackson, Hardy, or maybe Thomas in the 2nd rd.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Thanks DH.

Sign me up for DeSean Jackson at #19.

Really????Doesn't his size scare you?

Don't we need a big #1 not another K. Curtis?

My thoughts exactly. I'd much rather have Sweed, Hardy or Kelly. At 175 pounds soaking wet, Jackson scares me.

His real value is as a returner. If he's Devin Hester Jr, you have to take him at 19, no?

Stop looking at him as just a WR. He's a ST ace that can help you win now. Let him grow into the mold as an NFL WR on his own timeline, but if you're looking for an impact player for 2008, it won't be as a starting WR.

The Eagles will be drafting for the most part for 2009 and beyond, not the now. A KR/PR ace can help you this season, however. Add in that he can stretch the field in a 4-wide setup (which also strips down his need to learn the entire AR playbook, a daunting task for a rook) and you can see how he can help Philly win this season.

As I said, if he's the guy you're looking at, I'd go with a OT at 1.19 and trade Lito and their second to move up to get Jackson. I think you can get into the top three picks in the second if you offer that package.

I could live with this.I haven't kept up with the rising / falling tide of players in a bit with the mocks (which usually are off anyway). At one point get DJax2 you'd need to grab him here.

I'm just hoping that Philly devotes resources to KR/PR.

With Samuel in town, Philly probably doesn't go DB any longer with McKelvin (if he even gets to 19), so I was thinking Jackson.

What if Lito is moved? Your one injury away from Joselio Hanson starting.

Please don't ever say that again.....

 

[Domination]

It appears that Kevin Jones has been released. I think he would fit in well here, taking Buck's spot. Plus, he is a local guy. Any thoughts?

 

[Zoomanji]

It appears that Kevin Jones has been released. I think he would fit in well here, taking Buck's spot. Plus, he is a local guy. Any thoughts?

Despite his injury history, teams will view him as a starter and he probably views himself as a starter. Making Philly less than ideal.

 

[scratcher]

Thanks DH.Sign me up for DeSean Jackson at #19.

Really????Doesn't his size scare you?Don't we need a big #1 not another K. Curtis?

My thoughts exactly. I'd much rather have Sweed, Hardy or Kelly. At 175 pounds soaking wet, Jackson scares me.

His real value is as a returner. If he's Devin Hester Jr, you have to take him at 19, no?

Stop looking at him as just a WR. He's a ST ace that can help you win now. Let him grow into the mold as an NFL WR on his own timeline, but if you're looking for an impact player for 2008, it won't be as a starting WR.The Eagles will be drafting for the most part for 2009 and beyond, not the now. A KR/PR ace can help you this season, however. Add in that he can stretch the field in a 4-wide setup (which also strips down his need to learn the entire AR playbook, a daunting task for a rook) and you can see how he can help Philly win this season.

As I said, if he's the guy you're looking at, I'd go with a OT at 1.19 and trade Lito and their second to move up to get Jackson. I think you can get into the top three picks in the second if you offer that package.

Do you think that all Lito is worth is moving up a few spots in the 2nd round? I would think he would be worth a 2nd rounder straight up.ETA: If Lito isnt fetching a 2nd rounder at the least i would MUCH rather just keep him and have a sick secondary.

 

[dotman]

It appears that Kevin Jones has been released. I think he would fit in well here, taking Buck's spot. Plus, he is a local guy. Any thoughts?

Is Buckhalter gone? He ran pretty well last year. I like KJ, but he tore his ACL later in the season, I don't think he could help the Eagles much next year. Somebody else will want him more.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Thanks DH.Sign me up for DeSean Jackson at #19.

Really????Doesn't his size scare you?Don't we need a big #1 not another K. Curtis?

My thoughts exactly. I'd much rather have Sweed, Hardy or Kelly. At 175 pounds soaking wet, Jackson scares me.

His real value is as a returner. If he's Devin Hester Jr, you have to take him at 19, no?

Stop looking at him as just a WR. He's a ST ace that can help you win now. Let him grow into the mold as an NFL WR on his own timeline, but if you're looking for an impact player for 2008, it won't be as a starting WR.The Eagles will be drafting for the most part for 2009 and beyond, not the now. A KR/PR ace can help you this season, however. Add in that he can stretch the field in a 4-wide setup (which also strips down his need to learn the entire AR playbook, a daunting task for a rook) and you can see how he can help Philly win this season.

As I said, if he's the guy you're looking at, I'd go with a OT at 1.19 and trade Lito and their second to move up to get Jackson. I think you can get into the top three picks in the second if you offer that package.

Do you think that all Lito is worth is moving up a few spots in the 2nd round? I would think he would be worth a 2nd rounder straight up.ETA: If Lito isnt fetching a 2nd rounder at the least i would MUCH rather just keep him and have a sick secondary.

It'll take two seconds to move that high (into 2.5 or so). Their second and Lito would represent those two second rounders.

 

[Bushead]

Thanks DH.Sign me up for DeSean Jackson at #19.

Really????Doesn't his size scare you?Don't we need a big #1 not another K. Curtis?

My thoughts exactly. I'd much rather have Sweed, Hardy or Kelly. At 175 pounds soaking wet, Jackson scares me.

His real value is as a returner. If he's Devin Hester Jr, you have to take him at 19, no?

Stop looking at him as just a WR. He's a ST ace that can help you win now. Let him grow into the mold as an NFL WR on his own timeline, but if you're looking for an impact player for 2008, it won't be as a starting WR.The Eagles will be drafting for the most part for 2009 and beyond, not the now. A KR/PR ace can help you this season, however. Add in that he can stretch the field in a 4-wide setup (which also strips down his need to learn the entire AR playbook, a daunting task for a rook) and you can see how he can help Philly win this season.

As I said, if he's the guy you're looking at, I'd go with a OT at 1.19 and trade Lito and their second to move up to get Jackson. I think you can get into the top three picks in the second if you offer that package.

Do you think that all Lito is worth is moving up a few spots in the 2nd round? I would think he would be worth a 2nd rounder straight up.ETA: If Lito isnt fetching a 2nd rounder at the least i would MUCH rather just keep him and have a sick secondary.

It'll take two seconds to move that high (into 2.5 or so). Their second and Lito would represent those two second rounders.

You are 100% correct, but you have to admit, going from the Philly fan dream of Lito and a 2nd (or even #19) to get Fitz (or even other lesser "#1) to Lito and a 10-15 spot move in the second seems a little disappointing...With the way players pan out from drafts, giving up Lito (known quantity) for a 1/2 round boost in the 2nd seems like a huge gamble. I am leaning towards having the best secondary in the NFL - IMO - , albeit a potential btichy Sheppard, than that alternative.

 

[Bushead]

In reading the other news, given the Birds cap room - as much as I like Buck, I would be glad to pick up KJ for a decent price! Despite struggling with him on my fantasy roster for a couple of years, I still think he has some serious talent.

 

[awesomeness]

In reading the other news, given the Birds cap room - as much as I like Buck, I would be glad to pick up KJ for a decent price! Despite struggling with him on my fantasy roster for a couple of years, I still think he has some serious talent.

No way Kevin Jones comes to the eagles.

 

[dirtywaters20]

Thanks DH.Sign me up for DeSean Jackson at #19.

Really????Doesn't his size scare you?Don't we need a big #1 not another K. Curtis?

My thoughts exactly. I'd much rather have Sweed, Hardy or Kelly. At 175 pounds soaking wet, Jackson scares me.

His real value is as a returner. If he's Devin Hester Jr, you have to take him at 19, no?

Stop looking at him as just a WR. He's a ST ace that can help you win now. Let him grow into the mold as an NFL WR on his own timeline, but if you're looking for an impact player for 2008, it won't be as a starting WR.The Eagles will be drafting for the most part for 2009 and beyond, not the now. A KR/PR ace can help you this season, however. Add in that he can stretch the field in a 4-wide setup (which also strips down his need to learn the entire AR playbook, a daunting task for a rook) and you can see how he can help Philly win this season.

As I said, if he's the guy you're looking at, I'd go with a OT at 1.19 and trade Lito and their second to move up to get Jackson. I think you can get into the top three picks in the second if you offer that package.

Do you think that all Lito is worth is moving up a few spots in the 2nd round? I would think he would be worth a 2nd rounder straight up.ETA: If Lito isnt fetching a 2nd rounder at the least i would MUCH rather just keep him and have a sick secondary.

It'll take two seconds to move that high (into 2.5 or so). Their second and Lito would represent those two second rounders.

You are 100% correct, but you have to admit, going from the Philly fan dream of Lito and a 2nd (or even #19) to get Fitz (or even other lesser "#1) to Lito and a 10-15 spot move in the second seems a little disappointing...With the way players pan out from drafts, giving up Lito (known quantity) for a 1/2 round boost in the 2nd seems like a huge gamble. I am leaning towards having the best secondary in the NFL - IMO - , albeit a potential btichy Sheppard, than that alternative.

This is exactly how I feel. If you can't get value for him; you keep him for the time being. I'd rather trade him outright for a high 2009 pick then package him with our second pick to move futher up in that round. The drop off in value between that pick and our pick in the second more than likely will not justify giving up a 26 yr old Pro Bowl caliber corner.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Thanks DH.Sign me up for DeSean Jackson at #19.

Really????Doesn't his size scare you?Don't we need a big #1 not another K. Curtis?

My thoughts exactly. I'd much rather have Sweed, Hardy or Kelly. At 175 pounds soaking wet, Jackson scares me.

His real value is as a returner. If he's Devin Hester Jr, you have to take him at 19, no?

Stop looking at him as just a WR. He's a ST ace that can help you win now. Let him grow into the mold as an NFL WR on his own timeline, but if you're looking for an impact player for 2008, it won't be as a starting WR.The Eagles will be drafting for the most part for 2009 and beyond, not the now. A KR/PR ace can help you this season, however. Add in that he can stretch the field in a 4-wide setup (which also strips down his need to learn the entire AR playbook, a daunting task for a rook) and you can see how he can help Philly win this season.

As I said, if he's the guy you're looking at, I'd go with a OT at 1.19 and trade Lito and their second to move up to get Jackson. I think you can get into the top three picks in the second if you offer that package.

Do you think that all Lito is worth is moving up a few spots in the 2nd round? I would think he would be worth a 2nd rounder straight up.ETA: If Lito isnt fetching a 2nd rounder at the least i would MUCH rather just keep him and have a sick secondary.

It'll take two seconds to move that high (into 2.5 or so). Their second and Lito would represent those two second rounders.

You are 100% correct, but you have to admit, going from the Philly fan dream of Lito and a 2nd (or even #19) to get Fitz (or even other lesser "#1) to Lito and a 10-15 spot move in the second seems a little disappointing...With the way players pan out from drafts, giving up Lito (known quantity) for a 1/2 round boost in the 2nd seems like a huge gamble. I am leaning towards having the best secondary in the NFL - IMO - , albeit a potential btichy Sheppard, than that alternative.

This is exactly how I feel. If you can't get value for him; you keep him for the time being. I'd rather trade him outright for a high 2009 pick then package him with our second pick to move futher up in that round. The drop off in value between that pick and our pick in the second more than likely will not justify giving up a 26 yr old Pro Bowl caliber corner.

All things being equal, yes, of course you keep him. They still might. They just seem so intent on trading him though, that I'd say the possibility of him not being an Eagle by draft time is around 75%.

 

[dirtywaters20]

Oh I agree that seems to be the direction they're heading. I just don't like it. It is inconceivable to me that they would just give away a young pro-bowl corner. Let's hope that isn't the case.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

Oh I agree that seems to be the direction they're heading. I just don't like it. It is inconceivable to me that they would just give away a young pro-bowl corner. Let's hope that isn't the case.

I'm with you. I'd HATE to see Lito go for only moving up a few spots in the second.

 

[theToes]

Who needs Kevin Jones when we can have Klecko.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/14/eagles-add-klecko/

 

[Domination]

Who needs Kevin Jones when we can have Klecko.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/14/eagles-add-klecko/

I love this signing. 5"11 and 275 as a FB That is one heck of a good lead blocker for Westy.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Who needs Kevin Jones when we can have Klecko.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/14/eagles-add-klecko/

I love this signing. 5"11 and 275 as a FB That is one heck of a good lead blocker for Westy.

Westy doesn't even need a blocker. He might be # 1 overall fantasy pick next year........

 

[delusional]

Who needs Kevin Jones when we can have Klecko.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/14/eagles-add-klecko/

I love this signing. 5"11 and 275 as a FB That is one heck of a good lead blocker for Westy.

Westy doesn't even need a blocker. He might be # 1 overall fantasy pick next year........

Best RB in the NFL ( non fantasy )

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Who needs Kevin Jones when we can have Klecko.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/14/eagles-add-klecko/

I love this signing. 5"11 and 275 as a FB That is one heck of a good lead blocker for Westy.

Westy doesn't even need a blocker. He might be # 1 overall fantasy pick next year........

Best RB in the NFL ( non fantasy )

Some staffer was consistently mocked for grabbing him as much as he could the past two years .

 

[Pat Patriot]

Who needs Kevin Jones when we can have Klecko.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/14/eagles-add-klecko/

I love this signing. 5"11 and 275 as a FB That is one heck of a good lead blocker for Westy.

Klecko isnt exactly a lead blocker type. He has been used as a goal line FB more than anything else and has caught a couple of passes for TD's in the goal line offense. He is a specialty player but will not be a regular FB. The Pats tried to convert him to LB so he has played LB, DLine and FB. A versatile player to have on the roster.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

Who needs Kevin Jones when we can have Klecko.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/14/eagles-add-klecko/

I love this signing. 5"11 and 275 as a FB That is one heck of a good lead blocker for Westy.

Westy doesn't even need a blocker. He might be # 1 overall fantasy pick next year........

Best RB in the NFL ( non fantasy )

Err... Tomlinson down?

 

[delusional]

Who needs Kevin Jones when we can have Klecko.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/14/eagles-add-klecko/

I love this signing. 5"11 and 275 as a FB That is one heck of a good lead blocker for Westy.

Westy doesn't even need a blocker. He might be # 1 overall fantasy pick next year........

Best RB in the NFL ( non fantasy )

Err... Tomlinson down?

I think he is better overall. 1A 1B type thing

 

[Bushead]

In reading the other news, given the Birds cap room - as much as I like Buck, I would be glad to pick up KJ for a decent price! Despite struggling with him on my fantasy roster for a couple of years, I still think he has some serious talent.

No way Kevin Jones comes to the eagles.

never know...Jones about Philly

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

John Clayton did a blurb on philadelphiaeagles.com and said that Chris Clemons was the steal of all Free Agency

"Clearly, the steal of free agency was Chris Clemons. He was the steal of all of free agency. To get Chris Clemons, who had eight sacks and who the Raiders really liked, to get him for less than $3 million a year was a steal. The Raiders kind of looked at him like he was the next Derrick Burgess. He is a guy who is on the rise and the Eagles got him at a great price."

steal of the free agent market

 

[Lehigh98]

Man, the legs fell off this thread after FItz got a new contract.

It keeps looking like the Cowboys are going after a second #1 WR (Boldin right now)

I think it makes sense to not be hasty trading Lito and see what develops.

(unless its to steal a #1 WR out from under the Cowboys)

Can't believe it seems like we got so close on Moss and Fitz and came up empty.

It would be a real kick in the ### to see the Cowboys pick up another #1 WR.

 

[zadok]

I'm just happy Hackett turned the Redskins down. A WR like him is exactly what Campbell needs to thrive, IMHO.

Boldin to the Cowboys would SUCK.

 

[Zoomanji]

Man, the legs fell off this thread after FItz got a new contract.

Can't..........contain.......excitement........ Dan Klecko

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Man, the legs fell off this thread after FItz got a new contract.

I've been nusy, so sorry for the lack of updates. Anyway, my buddy and I met for lunch Sunday and there wasn't much news to report:* If the Eagles trade for a WR, it'll probably be Torry Holt. As far as their concerned, for now anyway, it seems that AZ and DET have no intention of trading Boldin or Roy.* If one of the stud DE's fall in the draft to 10 or so, they will be very agressive in trying to trade up. * You guys won't like this, but Lito will likely be traded on draft day and it will basically be as a chip to move up in the second round.

 

[Jason Wood]

Who needs Kevin Jones when we can have Klecko.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/14/eagles-add-klecko/

I love this signing. 5"11 and 275 as a FB That is one heck of a good lead blocker for Westy.

Klecko isnt exactly a lead blocker type. He has been used as a goal line FB more than anything else and has caught a couple of passes for TD's in the goal line offense. He is a specialty player but will not be a regular FB. The Pats tried to convert him to LB so he has played LB, DLine and FB. A versatile player to have on the roster.

Agreed. I don't see the Birds using Dan Klecko regularly on offense, but certainly it's encouraging to see the team adopt something akin to a Jumbo package for short yardage and goal-line situations. I also expect Klecko will help infuse a sense of toughness to a coverage unit that has fallen apart in recent years.

 

[Polish Hammer]

Man, the legs fell off this thread after FItz got a new contract.

I've been nusy, so sorry for the lack of updates. Anyway, my buddy and I met for lunch Sunday and there wasn't much news to report:* If the Eagles trade for a WR, it'll probably be Torry Holt. As far as their concerned, for now anyway, it seems that AZ and DET have no intention of trading Boldin or Roy.* If one of the stud DE's fall in the draft to 10 or so, they will be very agressive in trying to trade up. * You guys won't like this, but Lito will likely be traded on draft day and it will basically be as a chip to move up in the second round.

Hermit,Any insight as to why they are so willing to trade Lito away for moving up in the 2nd? I think we have seen over the years how important good depth is in the secondary, not to mention how key it is to have a very good nickel back as the league starts to pass more. Is he seen as that much of a problem in the locker room if he is demoted and not given a new contract? If a deal is done for Holt, any idea what the terms involved might be? And for anyone, what is Holt's contract situation/cost looking like? I'm really not thrilled about Holt as a long term move since his health has been in question lately. If he is obtained, I really hope the price is reasonable. I would rather have gotten Hackett (more injuries, but younger with lots of upside to be seen, and at a low cost) than a one year (or two at best) stopgap with Holt. Then again, I'm not a football exec so I'm guessing they have access to more info than I do.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Man, the legs fell off this thread after FItz got a new contract.

I've been nusy, so sorry for the lack of updates. Anyway, my buddy and I met for lunch Sunday and there wasn't much news to report:* If the Eagles trade for a WR, it'll probably be Torry Holt. As far as their concerned, for now anyway, it seems that AZ and DET have no intention of trading Boldin or Roy.* If one of the stud DE's fall in the draft to 10 or so, they will be very agressive in trying to trade up. * You guys won't like this, but Lito will likely be traded on draft day and it will basically be as a chip to move up in the second round.

Hermit,Any insight as to why they are so willing to trade Lito away for moving up in the 2nd? I think we have seen over the years how important good depth is in the secondary, not to mention how key it is to have a very good nickel back as the league starts to pass more. Is he seen as that much of a problem in the locker room if he is demoted and not given a new contract? If a deal is done for Holt, any idea what the terms involved might be? And for anyone, what is Holt's contract situation/cost looking like? I'm really not thrilled about Holt as a long term move since his health has been in question lately. If he is obtained, I really hope the price is reasonable. I would rather have gotten Hackett (more injuries, but younger with lots of upside to be seen, and at a low cost) than a one year (or two at best) stopgap with Holt. Then again, I'm not a football exec so I'm guessing they have access to more info than I do.

The deal for Holt is no where near done, but it is the one showing the most promise, despite the Rams insistance they are not looking to trade him.As for Lito, the Eagles are gunshy about contracts ever since the TO incident. If you gripe about a contract, you're a malcontent and have to be cut or traded. It sucks, and I'd much rather they keep him, but the Eagles seem hell-bent to get rid of him.

 

[Jason Wood]

Man, the legs fell off this thread after FItz got a new contract.

I've been nusy, so sorry for the lack of updates. Anyway, my buddy and I met for lunch Sunday and there wasn't much news to report:* If the Eagles trade for a WR, it'll probably be Torry Holt. As far as their concerned, for now anyway, it seems that AZ and DET have no intention of trading Boldin or Roy.* If one of the stud DE's fall in the draft to 10 or so, they will be very agressive in trying to trade up. * You guys won't like this, but Lito will likely be traded on draft day and it will basically be as a chip to move up in the second round.

Hermit,Any insight as to why they are so willing to trade Lito away for moving up in the 2nd? I think we have seen over the years how important good depth is in the secondary, not to mention how key it is to have a very good nickel back as the league starts to pass more. Is he seen as that much of a problem in the locker room if he is demoted and not given a new contract? If a deal is done for Holt, any idea what the terms involved might be? And for anyone, what is Holt's contract situation/cost looking like? I'm really not thrilled about Holt as a long term move since his health has been in question lately. If he is obtained, I really hope the price is reasonable. I would rather have gotten Hackett (more injuries, but younger with lots of upside to be seen, and at a low cost) than a one year (or two at best) stopgap with Holt. Then again, I'm not a football exec so I'm guessing they have access to more info than I do.

The deal for Holt is no where near done, but it is the one showing the most promise, despite the Rams insistance they are not looking to trade him.As for Lito, the Eagles are gunshy about contracts ever since the TO incident. If you gripe about a contract, you're a malcontent and have to be cut or traded. It sucks, and I'd much rather they keep him, but the Eagles seem hell-bent to get rid of him.

I've come to terms with getting rid of him, but just to move up a few slots? I could see trading him for ANOTHER 2nd rounder, or even a high 3rd...but just to move our 2nd to a higher one? Yikes, that will make me livid if it, in fact, transpires.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Hermit,

Anything on the rumors of interest in Kevin Jones?

 

[zadok]

I've come to terms with getting rid of him, but just to move up a few slots? I could see trading him for ANOTHER 2nd rounder, or even a high 3rd...but just to move our 2nd to a higher one? Yikes, that will make me livid if it, in fact, transpires.

Agreed.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Hermit,Anything on the rumors of interest in Kevin Jones?

I think it's more of a Kevin Jones interest in Philly to be honest. His price would have to come down a lot for him to wear Eagles green this year.

 

[delusional]

Hermit,Anything on the rumors of interest in Kevin Jones?

I think it's more of a Kevin Jones interest in Philly to be honest. His price would have to come down a lot for him to wear Eagles green this year.

hell we carried mcdougle around all these years with a nice price tag, bring him in, im all for it lol

 

[Jason Wood]

We can't really know how untenable the situation is with Ocho Cinco and Cincy, but clearly he went out of his way today on ESPN and NFL Network to ask for a change of scenery (but admitting that it's out of his control). Hypothetically, Lito plus a pick for CJ would make a lot of sense for both sides.

Just saying.

 

[renesauz]

We can't really know how untenable the situation is with Ocho Cinco and Cincy, but clearly he went out of his way today on ESPN and NFL Network to ask for a change of scenery (but admitting that it's out of his control). Hypothetically, Lito plus a pick for CJ would make a lot of sense for both sides. Just saying.

It might to us, but if the Eagles are hell bent on dealing Lito because he's unhappy, why would they bring in another malcontent?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

We can't really know how untenable the situation is with Ocho Cinco and Cincy, but clearly he went out of his way today on ESPN and NFL Network to ask for a change of scenery (but admitting that it's out of his control). Hypothetically, Lito plus a pick for CJ would make a lot of sense for both sides. Just saying.

IIRC trading Chad invokes an $8M salary cap penalty for Cincy.

 

[NorrisB]

We can't really know how untenable the situation is with Ocho Cinco and Cincy, but clearly he went out of his way today on ESPN and NFL Network to ask for a change of scenery (but admitting that it's out of his control). Hypothetically, Lito plus a pick for CJ would make a lot of sense for both sides. Just saying.

As a Bengals fan I would hope that would be an instant rejection as cincy is loaded at corner. I dont really see a guy on your team that matches Ocho's value.

 

[Jason Wood]

We can't really know how untenable the situation is with Ocho Cinco and Cincy, but clearly he went out of his way today on ESPN and NFL Network to ask for a change of scenery (but admitting that it's out of his control). Hypothetically, Lito plus a pick for CJ would make a lot of sense for both sides. Just saying.

As a Bengals fan I would hope that would be an instant rejection as cincy is loaded at corner. I dont really see a guy on your team that matches Ocho's value.

26th in pass defense and you're loaded at corner?

 

[Lehigh98]

We can't really know how untenable the situation is with Ocho Cinco and Cincy, but clearly he went out of his way today on ESPN and NFL Network to ask for a change of scenery (but admitting that it's out of his control). Hypothetically, Lito plus a pick for CJ would make a lot of sense for both sides. Just saying.

As a Bengals fan I would hope that would be an instant rejection as cincy is loaded at corner. I dont really see a guy on your team that matches Ocho's value.

26th in pass defense and you're loaded at corner?

 

[renesauz]

We can't really know how untenable the situation is with Ocho Cinco and Cincy, but clearly he went out of his way today on ESPN and NFL Network to ask for a change of scenery (but admitting that it's out of his control). Hypothetically, Lito plus a pick for CJ would make a lot of sense for both sides. Just saying.

As a Bengals fan I would hope that would be an instant rejection as cincy is loaded at corner. I dont really see a guy on your team that matches Ocho's value.

26th in pass defense and you're loaded at corner?

Dude....he's talking about Cincinatti....26th is good there! Sorry...that was just too easy.

 

[Domination]

Eagles interested in WR Earl Bennett, from Vandy.

Eagles 2nd Rd?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Eagles interested in WR Earl Bennett, from Vandy.

Eagles 2nd Rd?

I've been reading up on Bennett. Apparently he's a pretty good return guy.I've also read that he's projected in the 3rd round.