** Official ** Eagles 2008 Thread (1 Viewer)

[allaces10]

I really agonized as to whether to post this or not, because I really think I've been putting you guys on a roller coaster all off-season. Since most of my reports have later been substantiated by press, I hope you guys know I'm not jerking you around.Here goes: I was called late last night by my friend, who stated that the Eagles are in SERIOUS negoiations with a club to get a WR. I promised I would not reveal the name, but I was given the ok to make a vague post such as this one. The offer on the table is Lito and a second round pick this year or a first NEXT year. That can obviously change. These talks are very much still in the early stages. I will say that you all should be pleased.They have also talked to Buffalo about moving up to 11, but that's on the back burner right now.

I'll say it and keep saying it until it happens...the Eagles signing of Asante was fine but only part I of the plan this offseason. If we don't then leverage Lito and our plethora of picks into a dynamic receiver, this offseason was a failure IMHO. We've certainly "inquired" about every major player in transition this offseason. We tried signing Moss. We inquired about Larry Fitz. We inquired about Ocho Cinco. We inquired about Torry Holt. We talked to the Chiefs about Jared Allen. We asked Detroit about Roy Williams.So far, so nothing. Lots of attempts, nothing to show for it.Soooo...if we come away with either Boldin OR Roy Williams (who appears to be back on the market, at least according to Schefter); I'll be

I dont think you can call it a failure if Boldin or Williams are not traded to someone else. We can want a top flight WR all we want, but the simple facts are that there are not many available.The last time there was a top flight WR available the Eagles got him. Its not like they have not tried to fill the position, numerous draft picks with mediocre results, several FA signings with mediocre results and so on. IMO if Boldin or Williams are truly available then the Eagles will do everything possible to get them. If they aren't traded and we go into this season with the WR's we got, the off season was not a failure IMO at all. Teams just cant get players because they want them.

I'm sure the team officials won't classify the offseason as a failure if they don't get a stud WR; I'm just saying that I will. I've been about as supportive and positive an Eagles fan as you'll find. I've defended Andy Reid vigorously to my buddies. I've defended McNabb with equal vigor. But at some point, you have to be rational about the window of any team and, ours is clearly WIN NOW. If that means handing over a lot of perceived future value to secure "playmakers" as McNabb requested on his blog a few months ago, then so be it. Because if we don't get back deep into the playoffs this year, changes ARE going to happen not the least of which is a new era of quarterbacking and, with it, probably at least one if not two new offensive tackles in the lineup.

I think the Eagles offseason has to be ranked as one of the most entertaining so far. Most successful? I think they are near the top of that list too. For some reason it seems like half the top wrs in the league have been maybe on the move and every time the rumors fly and the Eagles are making offers and nothing happens. So far , no luck. Sucks. It would be sooo nice to see this team with someone like TO. Sooo nice. But even without that, it seems like the team will be much better this year. They seem so close to the top already. They have made some nice additions already, predraft. So add in whatever comes from the draft and the 2+ trades that they are likekly to make and tell me if, after all the wr soap opera shenanigans produces no substaintial upgrades in that area will you still say, even from the heart, that this offseason was a failure? I am sure there is a window but who knows when it will close. If they are good enough right now to be considered a wr away from the superbowl they are pretty good and there's no reason to think they will get bad fast. On the other hand if they are bad already then the wr probably woouldn't matter, and as you say changes will happen fast. In my opinion there's only one thing that matters if the Eagles are going to have any shot at a Superbowl. 5 has to be MVP. (insert fixed joke here). If he plays like he can they can win with what they will have.

Eagles survived mediocre WR's when the division was bad. However, the Giants are the defending SB champs. Dallas has added Pacman Jones and has 2 first round picks. I think the Eagles have passed Washington but that is about as high as they go in the division right now.

Phew..thanks for the info...saves me from actually hoping..rooting and watching the games this year since you already know whats going to happen....your talent is being wasted on this board....

 

[Bob Wiley]

Deranged Hermit: Tell Andy Reid to pull the trigger. Bring Anquan Boldin into the flock. This waiting is driving me crazy.

 

[zadok]

I think the Eagles will have a good draft this year. Why? It's the "3rd year" in the cycle!

1999, 2002, 2005...

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Deranged Hermit: Tell Andy Reid to pull the trigger. Bring Anquan Boldin into the flock. This waiting is driving me crazy.

LOL. I've met Reid once and we got along, but I doubt he'll listen to me. I did tell my buddy that the FO would be viewed as gods if they brought Williams, Boldin or Johnson onto the team......

 

[Chunky Soup]

Deranged Hermit: Tell Andy Reid to pull the trigger. Bring Anquan Boldin into the flock. This waiting is driving me crazy.

...I did tell my buddy that the FO would be viewed as gods if they brought Williams, Boldin or Johnson onto the team......

 

[dirtywaters20]

Deranged Hermit: Tell Andy Reid to pull the trigger. Bring Anquan Boldin into the flock. This waiting is driving me crazy.

LOL. I've met Reid once and we got along, but I doubt he'll listen to me. I did tell my buddy that the FO would be viewed as gods if they brought Williams, Boldin or Johnson onto the team......

Agreed on the first two counts.

 

[Zoomanji]

Eagles survived mediocre WR's when the division was bad. However, the Giants are the defending SB champs. Dallas has added Pacman Jones and has 2 first round picks. I think the Eagles have passed Washington but that is about as high as they go in the division right now.

Phew..thanks for the info...saves me from actually hoping..rooting and watching the games this year since you already know whats going to happen....your talent is being wasted on this board....

 

[scratcher]

DH, whats the low-down on this trade with Bucs?

 

[Chunky Soup]

DH, whats the low-down on this trade with Bucs?

What kind of wheels does it have? Is Michael Clayton the WR we're really going to land this offseason?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

DH, whats the low-down on this trade with Bucs?

What kind of wheels does it have? Is Michael Clayton the WR we're really going to land this offseason?

I've been trying to get my buddy on the horn with no success. It's VERY hard to get a hold of him this time of year unless he calls me. Hopefully he'll call tonight.I will say that TB was one of the teams that inquired about Lito last week (one of a dozen or so). Maybe they got something figured out. Trading Lito now doesn't seem to bode well for them getting a stud WR during the draft......

 

[Bob Wiley]

DH, whats the low-down on this trade with Bucs?

What kind of wheels does it have? Is Michael Clayton the WR we're really going to land this offseason?

I've been trying to get my buddy on the horn with no success. It's VERY hard to get a hold of him this time of year unless he calls me. Hopefully he'll call tonight.I will say that TB was one of the teams that inquired about Lito last week (one of a dozen or so). Maybe they got something figured out. Trading Lito now doesn't seem to bode well for them getting a stud WR during the draft......

Don't like it. Don't like it at all. Bring me Anquan Boldin

 

[delusional]

Clayton just adds to the mediocre core of WRs we already have

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Clayton just adds to the mediocre core of WRs we already have

IIRC disn't Clayton have a bust out year two years ago and than get ravaged by injuries last year. I think he has potential....*edit* Nevermind, I was thinking of Mark Clayton from Baltimore. Michael has indeed had a bust out season, but he's three years removed from that.

 

[Jason Wood]

OMG...if we "acquire" Michael Clayton for anything higher than a 7th rounder I'm going to vomit.

 

[Mighty Mice]

G Rec Yds YPC TD

2004 TB 16 80 1193 14.9 7

2005 TB 14 32 372 11.6 0

2006 TB 12 33 356 10.8 1

2007 TB 14 22 301 13.7 0

87 catches, 1029 yards, 1 TD in the last 3 years combined. I know Clayton is an excellent blocker, but I am not thinking he's an upgrade over Baskett/Avant at this point.

Brown/Clayton as a starting duo...not so hot. In fact pretty poor. Curtis in the slot would be nice, but really, I see Baskett/Avant/Clayton as fighting for position in camp. He's a throw in if anything. Probably would not preclude a move for a legit WR threat this weekend. Lito for a second is not so bad, although I was hoping for leveraging him to a team needing a CB.

I hope they do not do the deal...

 

[Deranged Hermit]

G Rec Yds YPC TD2004 TB 16 80 1193 14.9 7 2005 TB 14 32 372 11.6 0 2006 TB 12 33 356 10.8 1 2007 TB 14 22 301 13.7 0 87 catches, 1029 yards, 1 TD in the last 3 years combined. I know Clayton is an excellent blocker, but I am not thinking he's an upgrade over Baskett/Avant at this point. Brown/Clayton as a starting duo...not so hot. In fact pretty poor. Curtis in the slot would be nice, but really, I see Baskett/Avant/Clayton as fighting for position in camp. He's a throw in if anything. Probably would not preclude a move for a legit WR threat this weekend. Lito for a second is not so bad, although I was hoping for leveraging him to a team needing a CB.I hope they do not do the deal...

I'd like to see them get a pick higher up in the second round. Maybe around 2.10 or so. I think TB picks after the Eagles if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Well guys, Lito's all but gone. I can't tell you the team or picks/players involved, since the deal is not in the books, but the deal is 90% done (note, it is NOT 100% a done deal yet).

Sorry to say, you guys probably won't like the deal......

*edit* This is also likely my last post until Sunday. I'll be away tonight and tomorrow is my son's First Communion and party afterwards. If I hear anything major though, I will do my absolute best to jump on a computer and let you guys know.

 

[Polish Hammer]

Well guys, Lito's all but gone. I can't tell you the team or picks/players involved, since the deal is not in the books, but the deal is 90% done (note, it is NOT 100% a done deal yet).Sorry to say, you guys probably won't like the deal......*edit* This is also likely my last post until Sunday. I'll be away tonight and tomorrow is my son's First Communion and party afterwards. If I hear anything major though, I will do my absolute best to jump on a computer and let you guys know.

Two questions...I saw another post that TB was rumored to get Jason Taylor for their 2nd rounder. Does this mean the deal for their 2nd and Clayton is off?You said we don't like the deal. What is your opinion of it? Good or bad? Just unpopular b/c it isn't flashy? Why do you think we won't like it? You can't tell us the picks/players....can you tell us the positions? Have fun with the First Communion!

 

[scratcher]

If Jason Taylor to Bucs for their 2nd is true, I can't believe the Eagles didn't offer their 2nd rounder for him... I'd say he's certainly worth a 2nd rounder as he can turn our good D-line into an outstanding one. Oh well, we'll see how the cards fall...

 

[phthalatemagic]

OMG...if we "acquire" Michael Clayton for anything higher than a 7th rounder I'm going to vomit.

He isn't worth a roster spot.

 

[Bob Wiley]

Well guys, Lito's all but gone. I can't tell you the team or picks/players involved, since the deal is not in the books, but the deal is 90% done (note, it is NOT 100% a done deal yet).Sorry to say, you guys probably won't like the deal......*edit* This is also likely my last post until Sunday. I'll be away tonight and tomorrow is my son's First Communion and party afterwards. If I hear anything major though, I will do my absolute best to jump on a computer and let you guys know.

Bring me Anquan Boldin right this minute and if you don't, well I'm going to...well I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'll be very and and I may just and be a very .

 

[Pat Patriot]

I really agonized as to whether to post this or not, because I really think I've been putting you guys on a roller coaster all off-season. Since most of my reports have later been substantiated by press, I hope you guys know I'm not jerking you around.Here goes: I was called late last night by my friend, who stated that the Eagles are in SERIOUS negoiations with a club to get a WR. I promised I would not reveal the name, but I was given the ok to make a vague post such as this one. The offer on the table is Lito and a second round pick this year or a first NEXT year. That can obviously change. These talks are very much still in the early stages. I will say that you all should be pleased.They have also talked to Buffalo about moving up to 11, but that's on the back burner right now.

I'll say it and keep saying it until it happens...the Eagles signing of Asante was fine but only part I of the plan this offseason. If we don't then leverage Lito and our plethora of picks into a dynamic receiver, this offseason was a failure IMHO. We've certainly "inquired" about every major player in transition this offseason. We tried signing Moss. We inquired about Larry Fitz. We inquired about Ocho Cinco. We inquired about Torry Holt. We talked to the Chiefs about Jared Allen. We asked Detroit about Roy Williams.So far, so nothing. Lots of attempts, nothing to show for it.Soooo...if we come away with either Boldin OR Roy Williams (who appears to be back on the market, at least according to Schefter); I'll be

I dont think you can call it a failure if Boldin or Williams are not traded to someone else. We can want a top flight WR all we want, but the simple facts are that there are not many available.The last time there was a top flight WR available the Eagles got him. Its not like they have not tried to fill the position, numerous draft picks with mediocre results, several FA signings with mediocre results and so on. IMO if Boldin or Williams are truly available then the Eagles will do everything possible to get them. If they aren't traded and we go into this season with the WR's we got, the off season was not a failure IMO at all. Teams just cant get players because they want them.

I'm sure the team officials won't classify the offseason as a failure if they don't get a stud WR; I'm just saying that I will. I've been about as supportive and positive an Eagles fan as you'll find. I've defended Andy Reid vigorously to my buddies. I've defended McNabb with equal vigor. But at some point, you have to be rational about the window of any team and, ours is clearly WIN NOW. If that means handing over a lot of perceived future value to secure "playmakers" as McNabb requested on his blog a few months ago, then so be it. Because if we don't get back deep into the playoffs this year, changes ARE going to happen not the least of which is a new era of quarterbacking and, with it, probably at least one if not two new offensive tackles in the lineup.

I think the Eagles offseason has to be ranked as one of the most entertaining so far. Most successful? I think they are near the top of that list too. For some reason it seems like half the top wrs in the league have been maybe on the move and every time the rumors fly and the Eagles are making offers and nothing happens. So far , no luck. Sucks. It would be sooo nice to see this team with someone like TO. Sooo nice. But even without that, it seems like the team will be much better this year. They seem so close to the top already. They have made some nice additions already, predraft. So add in whatever comes from the draft and the 2+ trades that they are likekly to make and tell me if, after all the wr soap opera shenanigans produces no substaintial upgrades in that area will you still say, even from the heart, that this offseason was a failure? I am sure there is a window but who knows when it will close. If they are good enough right now to be considered a wr away from the superbowl they are pretty good and there's no reason to think they will get bad fast. On the other hand if they are bad already then the wr probably woouldn't matter, and as you say changes will happen fast. In my opinion there's only one thing that matters if the Eagles are going to have any shot at a Superbowl. 5 has to be MVP. (insert fixed joke here). If he plays like he can they can win with what they will have.

Eagles survived mediocre WR's when the division was bad. However, the Giants are the defending SB champs. Dallas has added Pacman Jones and has 2 first round picks. I think the Eagles have passed Washington but that is about as high as they go in the division right now.

Phew..thanks for the info...saves me from actually hoping..rooting and watching the games this year since you already know whats going to happen....your talent is being wasted on this board....

I'm sorry that the concept of an opinion is beyond your comprehension.

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

Well guys, Lito's all but gone. I can't tell you the team or picks/players involved, since the deal is not in the books, but the deal is 90% done (note, it is NOT 100% a done deal yet).Sorry to say, you guys probably won't like the deal......*edit* This is also likely my last post until Sunday. I'll be away tonight and tomorrow is my son's First Communion and party afterwards. If I hear anything major though, I will do my absolute best to jump on a computer and let you guys know.

Two questions...I saw another post that TB was rumored to get Jason Taylor for their 2nd rounder. Does this mean the deal for their 2nd and Clayton is off?You said we don't like the deal. What is your opinion of it? Good or bad? Just unpopular b/c it isn't flashy? Why do you think we won't like it? You can't tell us the picks/players....can you tell us the positions? Have fun with the First Communion!

Dude... he said this was his last post until Sunday.

 

[Jason Wood]

Well guys, Lito's all but gone. I can't tell you the team or picks/players involved, since the deal is not in the books, but the deal is 90% done (note, it is NOT 100% a done deal yet).Sorry to say, you guys probably won't like the deal......*edit* This is also likely my last post until Sunday. I'll be away tonight and tomorrow is my son's First Communion and party afterwards. If I hear anything major though, I will do my absolute best to jump on a computer and let you guys know.

NOT HAPPY...if you say we probably won't like the deal, that means it's probably for a draft pick lower than a 2nd rounder. And this will TICK ME OFF.

 

[Jason Wood]

Odd...Schefter was just on Total Access saying that the Eagles are going to use Lito as bait to move back into the late 1st round tomorrow and have had preliminary talks with several teams; based purely on whether a player they covet is available at the spot. He went on to say the Eagles won't trade Lito for less and have accepted that they may need to keep him b/c he's too valuable and under contract to give up for less. Lastly, he confirmed that neither Boldin nor Roy Williams are going anywhere.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Baby Jesus

Please let the Eagles use the #19 pick on Mayo or a Olineman and then have them use Lito Sheppard to trade up into the late first or early second to draft James Hardy. Thank you Baby Jesus.

 

[Domination]

I am officially giving up hope on an elite WR, so I would like to see the Eagles use their #1 on an o-lineman(Williams). Then trade Lito to get into the bottom of the 1st and select Kenny Phillips. This would not fix the WR situation, but I think that Phillips has the ability to be an immediate impact player.

 

[massraider]

Baby JesusPlease let the Eagles use the #19 pick on Mayo or a Olineman and then have them use Lito Sheppard to trade up into the late first or early second to draft James Hardy. Thank you Baby Jesus.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Odd...Schefter was just on Total Access saying that the Eagles are going to use Lito as bait to move back into the late 1st round tomorrow and have had preliminary talks with several teams; based purely on whether a player they covet is available at the spot. He went on to say the Eagles won't trade Lito for less and have accepted that they may need to keep him b/c he's too valuable and under contract to give up for less. Lastly, he confirmed that neither Boldin nor Roy Williams are going anywhere.

I was just coming to post that. I just got home and thought I'd jump on quickly to pass that info on. The other deal was with the Jags and it was Jax's 2nd and one of their POS WR's for Lito. It fell through for whatever reason.Told ya you would be mad. Be glad it never happened.

 

[Jason Wood]

Odd...Schefter was just on Total Access saying that the Eagles are going to use Lito as bait to move back into the late 1st round tomorrow and have had preliminary talks with several teams; based purely on whether a player they covet is available at the spot. He went on to say the Eagles won't trade Lito for less and have accepted that they may need to keep him b/c he's too valuable and under contract to give up for less. Lastly, he confirmed that neither Boldin nor Roy Williams are going anywhere.

I was just coming to post that. I just got home and thought I'd jump on quickly to pass that info on. The other deal was with the Jags and it was Jax's 2nd and one of their POS WR's for Lito. It fell through for whatever reason.Told ya you would be mad. Be glad it never happened.

I wouldn't have minded the Jags 2nd and a wideout. That would've given the Birds ammo to move back into the 1st round to grab someone they covet.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Odd...Schefter was just on Total Access saying that the Eagles are going to use Lito as bait to move back into the late 1st round tomorrow and have had preliminary talks with several teams; based purely on whether a player they covet is available at the spot. He went on to say the Eagles won't trade Lito for less and have accepted that they may need to keep him b/c he's too valuable and under contract to give up for less. Lastly, he confirmed that neither Boldin nor Roy Williams are going anywhere.

I was just coming to post that. I just got home and thought I'd jump on quickly to pass that info on. The other deal was with the Jags and it was Jax's 2nd and one of their POS WR's for Lito. It fell through for whatever reason.Told ya you would be mad. Be glad it never happened.

I wouldn't have minded the Jags 2nd and a wideout. That would've given the Birds ammo to move back into the 1st round to grab someone they covet.

Yeah, but the Jags are the only team in the NFL with worse WR than the Eagles.

 

[Zoomanji]

Odd...Schefter was just on Total Access saying that the Eagles are going to use Lito as bait to move back into the late 1st round tomorrow and have had preliminary talks with several teams; based purely on whether a player they covet is available at the spot. He went on to say the Eagles won't trade Lito for less and have accepted that they may need to keep him b/c he's too valuable and under contract to give up for less. Lastly, he confirmed that neither Boldin nor Roy Williams are going anywhere.

I was just coming to post that. I just got home and thought I'd jump on quickly to pass that info on. The other deal was with the Jags and it was Jax's 2nd and one of their POS WR's for Lito. It fell through for whatever reason.Told ya you would be mad. Be glad it never happened.

We all know Andy loves Matt Jones

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Odd...Schefter was just on Total Access saying that the Eagles are going to use Lito as bait to move back into the late 1st round tomorrow and have had preliminary talks with several teams; based purely on whether a player they covet is available at the spot. He went on to say the Eagles won't trade Lito for less and have accepted that they may need to keep him b/c he's too valuable and under contract to give up for less. Lastly, he confirmed that neither Boldin nor Roy Williams are going anywhere.

I was just coming to post that. I just got home and thought I'd jump on quickly to pass that info on. The other deal was with the Jags and it was Jax's 2nd and one of their POS WR's for Lito. It fell through for whatever reason.Told ya you would be mad. Be glad it never happened.

I was just reading the jason Taylor thread and it looks like Jax is now involved. Maybe that's why the Lito deal fell through?

 

[renesauz]

It's a good thing the draft is tomorrow. This has been driving me nuts!

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Baby JesusPlease let the Eagles use the #19 pick on Mayo or a Olineman and then have them use Lito Sheppard to trade up into the late first or early second to draft James Hardy. Thank you Baby Jesus.

 

[awesomeness]

Odd...Schefter was just on Total Access saying that the Eagles are going to use Lito as bait to move back into the late 1st round tomorrow and have had preliminary talks with several teams; based purely on whether a player they covet is available at the spot. He went on to say the Eagles won't trade Lito for less and have accepted that they may need to keep him b/c he's too valuable and under contract to give up for less. Lastly, he confirmed that neither Boldin nor Roy Williams are going anywhere.

I was just coming to post that. I just got home and thought I'd jump on quickly to pass that info on. The other deal was with the Jags and it was Jax's 2nd and one of their POS WR's for Lito. It fell through for whatever reason.Told ya you would be mad. Be glad it never happened.

I wouldn't have minded the Jags 2nd and a wideout. That would've given the Birds ammo to move back into the 1st round to grab someone they covet.

You consider the eagles offseason a failure unless the eagles get a legit #1 WR, but you would have been happy with the Eagles trading Lito for a late 2nd round pick and a WR from the Jags? There's no ammo in any of the Jaguar WR corp.

 

[Jason Wood]

Odd...Schefter was just on Total Access saying that the Eagles are going to use Lito as bait to move back into the late 1st round tomorrow and have had preliminary talks with several teams; based purely on whether a player they covet is available at the spot. He went on to say the Eagles won't trade Lito for less and have accepted that they may need to keep him b/c he's too valuable and under contract to give up for less. Lastly, he confirmed that neither Boldin nor Roy Williams are going anywhere.

I was just coming to post that. I just got home and thought I'd jump on quickly to pass that info on. The other deal was with the Jags and it was Jax's 2nd and one of their POS WR's for Lito. It fell through for whatever reason.Told ya you would be mad. Be glad it never happened.

I wouldn't have minded the Jags 2nd and a wideout. That would've given the Birds ammo to move back into the 1st round to grab someone they covet.

You consider the eagles offseason a failure unless the eagles get a legit #1 WR, but you would have been happy with the Eagles trading Lito for a late 2nd round pick and a WR from the Jags? There's no ammo in any of the Jaguar WR corp.

:SIGH:For once I try to speak as a fanboy homer rather than being completely analytical and people can't separate the two. My season ticket owning, win now or else, fanboy self wants the Eagles to land a stud WR or bust.My analytical, pragmatic self understands that's all but an impossibility.

 

[awesomeness]

Odd...Schefter was just on Total Access saying that the Eagles are going to use Lito as bait to move back into the late 1st round tomorrow and have had preliminary talks with several teams; based purely on whether a player they covet is available at the spot. He went on to say the Eagles won't trade Lito for less and have accepted that they may need to keep him b/c he's too valuable and under contract to give up for less. Lastly, he confirmed that neither Boldin nor Roy Williams are going anywhere.

I was just coming to post that. I just got home and thought I'd jump on quickly to pass that info on. The other deal was with the Jags and it was Jax's 2nd and one of their POS WR's for Lito. It fell through for whatever reason.Told ya you would be mad. Be glad it never happened.

I wouldn't have minded the Jags 2nd and a wideout. That would've given the Birds ammo to move back into the 1st round to grab someone they covet.

You consider the eagles offseason a failure unless the eagles get a legit #1 WR, but you would have been happy with the Eagles trading Lito for a late 2nd round pick and a WR from the Jags? There's no ammo in any of the Jaguar WR corp.

:SIGH:For once I try to speak as a fanboy homer rather than being completely analytical and people can't separate the two. My season ticket owning, win now or else, fanboy self wants the Eagles to land a stud WR or bust.My analytical, pragmatic self understands that's all but an impossibility.

sorry, admins can't be fanboys.

 

[scratcher]

For anything less than a early 2nd round pick, I'd rather just keep Lito and move Sheldon to safety.

The source said that Sheppard wants his contract sweetened, but that he is not asking to be treated like an unrestricted free agent.

That seems pretty reasonable to me and we would have a sick secondary.

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

I am officially giving up hope on an elite WR, so I would like to see the Eagles use their #1 on an o-lineman(Williams). Then trade Lito to get into the bottom of the 1st and select Kenny Phillips. This would not fix the WR situation, but I think that Phillips has the ability to be an immediate impact player.

The closer we get to the draft, the less I believe that the Birds will actually draft an Olineman in the first round. Are they really prepared to give up on Winston Justice, a highly-rated tackle they traded up in the 2nd round to get, after only 2 games' worth of playing time? Everyone lies before the draft - I'm thinking that the OL talk is meant as a smokescreen to hide their real desire for a skill position player... perhaps a RB. Mendenhall, Stewart or Jones would certainly shake things up here in Philly. Westbrook would probably text McNabb shortly after the pick, saying "Now I know how you felt last year."

 

[Slider]

The closer we get to the draft, the less I believe that the Birds will actually draft an Olineman in the first round. Are they really prepared to give up on Winston Justice, a highly-rated tackle they traded up in the 2nd round to get, after only 2 games' worth of playing time? Everyone lies before the draft - I'm thinking that the OL talk is meant as a smokescreen to hide their real desire for a skill position player... perhaps a RB. Mendenhall, Stewart or Jones would certainly shake things up here in Philly. Westbrook would probably text McNabb shortly after the pick, saying "Now I know how you felt last year."

We may go D with the 1st pick but you can bet we draft an OT. Runyan and Tra BOTH have expiring contracts. Andrews will probably take one spot but you better have someone for the other. Justice has to be, at best, viewed as a developmental prospect.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I am officially giving up hope on an elite WR, so I would like to see the Eagles use their #1 on an o-lineman(Williams). Then trade Lito to get into the bottom of the 1st and select Kenny Phillips. This would not fix the WR situation, but I think that Phillips has the ability to be an immediate impact player.

The closer we get to the draft, the less I believe that the Birds will actually draft an Olineman in the first round. Are they really prepared to give up on Winston Justice, a highly-rated tackle they traded up in the 2nd round to get, after only 2 games' worth of playing time? Everyone lies before the draft - I'm thinking that the OL talk is meant as a smokescreen to hide their real desire for a skill position player... perhaps a RB. Mendenhall, Stewart or Jones would certainly shake things up here in Philly. Westbrook would probably text McNabb shortly after the pick, saying "Now I know how you felt last year."

Zero chance that they go for a RB in Round 1.I can see adding a RB, but not the Top 3.OL or DB or WR will be the Round 1 pick.I'm thinking they either move up or stand pat (if one starts to fall) and take an OL.Next they get a S or a WR in Round 2. Early Doucet or DeSean Jackson.A TE is also a possibility but probably not until at least Round 3.

 

[shimtown]

For anything less than a early 2nd round pick, I'd rather just keep Lito and move Sheldon to safety.

The source said that Sheppard wants his contract sweetened, but that he is not asking to be treated like an unrestricted free agent.

That seems pretty reasonable to me and we would have a sick secondary.

This will probally not happen IMO because the Eagles WILL NOT set a precedent with re doing contracts. There are more people in line for re-do's that are not happy with there extensions and that would open the floodgates. The Eagles have a history of going to players early in there rookie deals and giving them extensions and sining bonuses. They have a decent track record, Todd Pinkston being one backfire that comes to mind and jury still out on Mike Patterson, with this but players that out preform become unhappy. First and foremost is Brian Westbrook who is slated to make 3 mil next year, 3.5 in 09, and 4.5 in 10. Paltry for a top 3-5 back. Shaun Andrews signed till 2015 with salaries around 2 mil. Now these people did collect signing bonuses and roster bonuses but you know how that goes with players, "What have you done for me lately". Sheldon Brown and Lito both signed those long extensions. Sheldon till 2012 and Lito till 2011. Trent Cole till 2013. Lito has also been outspoken about it, something the Eagles loathe. Plus I read they have different opinions about the severity of his injuries. Personally I like Lito as a player and would think it would be a huge loss if they lose him but Im not sure if they could all make it work.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Some late round insight...

Colt Brennan was on Sirius Late Hits and the Eagles were the first team he mentioned when he was asked who was contacting him. He did say that he was told that most QBs (his friends) were drafted by teams that didn't even contact them.

 

[Jason Wood]

Some late round insight...Colt Brennan was on Sirius Late Hits and the Eagles were the first team he mentioned when he was asked who was contacting him. He did say that he was told that most QBs (his friends) were drafted by teams that didn't even contact them.

Reid loves these QBs that put up big college stats but don't have the experience in a pro set offense or the size to succeed at the next level. It's a wonder he actually drafted McNabb. Timmy Chang, Koy Detmer...Colt Brennan would be par for the course.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Philly.com is reporting the Saints are now offering the most for Sheppard, their 2nd round pick #40 overall

More good news from the same article:

"There was also speculation that the Bucs might include Michael Clayton in a deal for Sheppard, but the source said the Eagles were not interested in the veteran wide receiver. "

philly.com

 

[ThePassion]

Philly.com is reporting the Saints are now offering the most for Sheppard, their 2nd round pick #40 overall

More good news from the same article:

"There was also speculation that the Bucs might include Michael Clayton in a deal for Sheppard, but the source said the Eagles were not interested in the veteran wide receiver. "

philly.com

Amen.... best news I've heard in a while. After the WR roller coaster we've been through if the Eagles traded for M. Clayton I would barf.

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

If Felix Jones is there at #19, anyone think the eagles take him? Ray Didenger had a nice take on him on comcast. gives them another playmaker which they need and make Mcnabb happier. Right away he is their kick returner which they need. When they Put him in the backfield and hey can line Westbrook up at receiver. I think this all makes too much sense, so it would not happen.

 

[awesomeness]

If Felix Jones is there at #19, anyone think the eagles take him? Ray Didenger had a nice take on him on comcast. gives them another playmaker which they need and make Mcnabb happier. Right away he is their kick returner which they need. When they Put him in the backfield and hey can line Westbrook up at receiver. I think this all makes too much sense, so it would not happen.

Doesn't make any sense at all to me. Westbrook led the league in yards from scrimmage last year, i think its safe to say putting the ball in his hands as much as possible is good for the Eagles. RB is the one position that doesn't make any sense for the Eagles to go after in the first round.

 

[eoMMan]

Had Chad Johnson been mentioned in any trade talks?