** Official ** Eagles 2008 Thread (1 Viewer)

[Pickle Rody]

How sweeeeeeeet is it that Dallas just made today's game a helluva lot more interesting and exciting?

I hate to admit it, but I am so looking forward to next weeks game. I just hope the players aren't doing the same. Let's get past this Redskins team first.

 

[scratcher]

How sweeeeeeeet is it that Dallas just made today's game a helluva lot more interesting and exciting?I hate to admit it, but I am so looking forward to next weeks game. I just hope the players aren't doing the same. Let's get past this Redskins team first.

Can someone do the work to explain how a Dallas loss affects our playoff status? My quick suspicion is it doesnt..

 

[jasvic]

How sweeeeeeeet is it that Dallas just made today's game a helluva lot more interesting and exciting?I hate to admit it, but I am so looking forward to next weeks game. I just hope the players aren't doing the same. Let's get past this Redskins team first.

Can someone do the work to explain how a Dallas loss affects our playoff status? My quick suspicion is it doesnt..

It doesn't, in fact the last couple weeks it didn't matter what Dallas does/did. Now TB losing today, that is gi-normous! Now the Eagles control their own destiny...they win out, they're in. Simple as that. They'll be the 6th seed, but if Atl loses one more, then they'd be the 5th seed.It is pure insanity.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

How sweeeeeeeet is it that Dallas just made today's game a helluva lot more interesting and exciting?I hate to admit it, but I am so looking forward to next weeks game. I just hope the players aren't doing the same. Let's get past this Redskins team first.

Can someone do the work to explain how a Dallas loss affects our playoff status? My quick suspicion is it doesnt..

I thought this as well, but it was conceivable for both DAL to clinch w/ a win and help and also be near extinction with a loss.Odds are that they will be playing a playoff game in Week 17.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Buying PHI DAL tix with a PHI win today.

 

[JuniorNB]

Are the Eagles really going to let this one slip away?

With as well as they've been playing, and with the entire NFL seemingly helping them get into the playoffs, to lay an egg today might be as big as all the other disappointments this regime has handed us.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Are the Eagles really going to let this one slip away? With as well as they've been playing, and with the entire NFL seemingly helping them get into the playoffs, to lay an egg today might be as big as all the other disappointments this regime has handed us.

Fitting end to a craptastic season.Don't even tell me that they are alive - I think they need Tampa to lose against Oakland next week.

 

[Game Time]

One Bears loss.... TB to lose and Eagles beat Boys...

AND WE IN!!!

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

pa-thet-ic - ADJ - See Eagles WRs

on the bright side, McNabb just got offered a special spot on the Phillies practice squad. He's going to help the infield warm up by throwing ground balls to them

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

DeSean needs to catch some of those.

That said, the Eagles stunk up the field. That was horrific.

They also forgot about that whole "run the ball" thing.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

DeSean needs to catch some of those.That said, the Eagles stunk up the field. That was horrific. They also forgot about that whole "run the ball" thing.

hey how bout that. When it really mattered, Andy abandoned the run AGAIN. 50 called pass plays14 runsmoron

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Wow - 46 passes, 16 runs - and 2 were by McNabb.

75% passing again - nice balance. In a 10-3 game no less.

Thanks for boosting our hopes and crushing them yet again.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

Wow - 46 passes, 16 runs - and 2 were by McNabb.75% passing again - nice balance. In a 10-3 game no less.Thanks for boosting our hopes and crushing them yet again.

dont forget the 25 mph winds ETA: and 2 sacks by WSH, so that's 50 pass plays

 

[JuniorNB]

pa-thet-ic - ADJ - See Eagles WRs

on the bright side, McNabb just got offered a special spot on the Phillies practice squad. He's going to help the infield warm up by throwing ground balls to them

Say what you want about McNabb, but he made three absolute money-passes in the fourth quarter today. The two that DeShaun Jackson dropped and the laser to Brown at the end.Before that, he definitely had his worst game since the Baltimore loss, but he simply needed Jackson to catch the ball late in the game and they were in overtime.

 

[GroveDiesel]

DeSean needs to catch some of those.That said, the Eagles stunk up the field. That was horrific. They also forgot about that whole "run the ball" thing.

hey how bout that. When it really mattered, Andy abandoned the run AGAIN. 50 called pass plays14 runsmoron

I think they had 4 running plays in the 2nd half. Absolutely unreal. Andy Reid really should be fired. How can you have one of the most dangerous offensive weapons in the game and barely use him?

 

[TCFF]

A little clock management would have given us time down at the goalline too. Keep McNabb if you want, but it is time for Reid to go.

 

[JaxBill]

I know it will never happen, but I wish Lurie told Reid to take the freakin' Metroliner back home.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

I know it will never happen, but I wish Lurie told Reid to take the freakin' Metroliner back home.

do they have a dining car on that thing? If so, it might not really be a punishment for F.A.A.R.ETA:

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

I think what makes this season so disappointing that our D is an absolute beast. They may not have the names of Gang Green, or the flash of the super bowl year, but they are so solid all around, its unbelievable.

#5 against the Run so far in '08

#2 against the pass

#7 scoring D (take out the 30 pts the O and ST gave up this year and that goes to #4)

#3 overall D

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

A little clock management would have given us time down at the goalline too. Keep McNabb if you want, but it is time for Reid to go.

Agree with this. I'm all for Mcnab staying but the fat man needs to go, I can't take him anymore. Let the national media kiss his butt on some other team. Put Mcnabb in a balanced attack and he is fine

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

A little clock management would have given us time down at the goalline too. Keep McNabb if you want, but it is time for Reid to go.

Agree with this. I'm all for Mcnab staying but the fat man needs to go, I can't take him anymore. Let the national media kiss his butt on some other team. Put Mcnabb in a balanced attack and he is fine

Not quite on par with Kotite (Reid's way better than Kotite, but so is my Christmas tree) - but one of my funniest memories was the Jets introducing Kotite as their new coach. They had no idea how much comedy would follow. Good times.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

A little clock management would have given us time down at the goalline too. Keep McNabb if you want, but it is time for Reid to go.

Agree with this. I'm all for Mcnab staying but the fat man needs to go, I can't take him anymore. Let the national media kiss his butt on some other team. Put Mcnabb in a balanced attack and he is fine

The 2-minute drill is abysmal. Sure Curtis was out anda ll, but do they practice any of this? Come on....Reggie Brown - by the way - this game should tell you why you're 3rd string.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Yet another point..... a timeout in the FIRST MINUTE after halftime.

Yeah, THAT wasn't valuable now was it?

First and goal at the 1 with 1 play to goal, anyone?

:Bitter:

 

[GroveDiesel]

Yet another point..... a timeout in the FIRST MINUTE after halftime. Yeah, THAT wasn't valuable now was it?First and goal at the 1 with 1 play to goal, anyone?:Bitter:

Watching the Eagles run the 2 minute drill and manage the clock is liking watching JP Losman roll out to pass on 2nd and 5 at the end of the game with the lead. All you can do as a fan is sit there in slack jawed disbelief as you contemplate driving down to the stadium to punch the coach in the face.

 

[GoBirds]

pa-thet-ic - ADJ - See Eagles WRs

on the bright side, McNabb just got offered a special spot on the Phillies practice squad. He's going to help the infield warm up by throwing ground balls to them

Say what you want about McNabb, but he made three absolute money-passes in the fourth quarter today. The two that DeShaun Jackson dropped and the laser to Brown at the end.Before that, he definitely had his worst game since the Baltimore loss, but he simply needed Jackson to catch the ball late in the game and they were in overtime.

Agreed.McNabb is not the problem with this team.If we get rid of him we are in trouble, Kolb sucks.

Reid needs to focus on his family because he is doing nothing for the Eagles, at least resign as GM.

 

[Lehigh98]

Typical Eagles, stringing us along to cause as much pain and frustration as possible.I'm still though.

 

[scratcher]

dont 1st graders learn faster than reid? balanced run/pass = wins... 75% pass = failure.

 

[Novice2]

Me : The Eagles suck

Wife : Why you say that?

Me : Cause they lost.

Wife Whats new?

Damn

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

pa-thet-ic - ADJ - See Eagles WRs

on the bright side, McNabb just got offered a special spot on the Phillies practice squad. He's going to help the infield warm up by throwing ground balls to them

Say what you want about McNabb, but he made three absolute money-passes in the fourth quarter today. The two that DeShaun Jackson dropped and the laser to Brown at the end.Before that, he definitely had his worst game since the Baltimore loss, but he simply needed Jackson to catch the ball late in the game and they were in overtime.

Agreed.McNabb is not the problem with this team.If we get rid of him we are in trouble, Kolb sucks.

Reid needs to focus on his family because he is doing nothing for the Eagles, at least resign as GM.

I'll agree with the fact that McNabb had some help in this one. Too many dropped passes, poor WR separation, and a hurt westy. But, McNabbs fumble gave the Skins their first TD, his TO in the first minute of the 2nd half was indefensible, and he made a LOT of bad throws. His receivers constantly had to reach for low throws, or ones behind them. If the W.C.O. is meant to have R.A.C, McNabb just didnt provide an opportunity for that to happen.I will also agree that Kolb is NOT the answer. With that in mind, and as much as i think McNabb is a choker, i'd be willing to give him one more year. The problem with that is if its with Reid, then the run/pass balance and the stubborn arrogance of the F.O. will ultimately doom this team. And if McNabb gets another year with a new coach, do you really think he's interested in learning a new offense in Philly?

I see a lot of questions for the F.O. to answer before next year. Unfortunately, i dont see any good answers

 

[Sweetness_34]

Fred Smoot, whose heads-up play kept Reggie Brown from scoring the tying touchdown as time ran out, was grateful. He looks over and sees Westbrook and that big offensive line and wonders why the Eagles don't run the ball more.

"To me, it shocks me," Smoot said. "Especially having a guy like 36 back there. My goodness. If I was a coach, I wouldn't have a game where he didn't touch the ball 25 times. I make sure I put the ball in his hands."

The game was well within the Eagles' reach throughout the fourth quarter. They had four possessions before the one that ended on the 1-inch line. Yes, they had bad field position each time. That's partly due to Washington punter Ryan Plackemeier, but it's also due to the Eagles' abject failure to move the ball enough to give themselves some space.

All four possessions: three pass plays and a punt.

"That's them," Smoot said. "When they're backed up, they throw their way out."

 

[Dr. J]

Anyone blaming McNabb on this one is just plain stupid. Andy Reid, it's time to go. When I saw the menu in his hand and he was talking into his mic, I knew we were doomed. It was an obvious field position game from the start and Reid loses every time. F him. Funny thing is, his defense almost saved the day. I think it's time to cut the fat and we all know who that is. extremely :bitter:

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

How bad would this team be without Jim Johnson? Or B Dawk? I think Reid would have been gone 2 years ago if not for the D covering up all his warts

 

[eagles2007]

mcnabb isn't the answer. as much as you want reid gone, if mcnabb is back, this team isn't going anywhere. like another poster said, the wco is about RAC. at least 50 percent of his throws today were at his receivers feet. he made one good throw to desean in the end zone. it should have been caught. the deep pass to jackson on the left sideline earlier was so poorly thrown jackson had to nearly stop, he turned around about 3 times and still almost caught it. terrible.

maybe at some point a team in the nfl will realize that 5 yards is less valuable than a time out in the first minute of the second half. you only get 3 of them. you use 1, it severely limits your ability to rally and your ability to challenge a play.

i know its far fetched, but i really wish brown had some field awareness and some common sense on the final play. i'm grasping at straws here, but he was almost laying parallel to the field at one point, six feet above it. if he reaches the ball backwards, it breaks the plane. if he doesn't try to 'act' like he wasn't down MAYBE we get another play off. i mean, there were two seconds left when the ref tossed the ball to the hashmark to be set. if there was that extra 2-3 seconds, who knows? it probably is moot, but ... who was he trying to fool?

 

[JuniorNB]

Fred Smoot, whose heads-up play kept Reggie Brown from scoring the tying touchdown as time ran out, was grateful. He looks over and sees Westbrook and that big offensive line and wonders why the Eagles don't run the ball more."To me, it shocks me," Smoot said. "Especially having a guy like 36 back there. My goodness. If I was a coach, I wouldn't have a game where he didn't touch the ball 25 times. I make sure I put the ball in his hands."The game was well within the Eagles' reach throughout the fourth quarter. They had four possessions before the one that ended on the 1-inch line. Yes, they had bad field position each time. That's partly due to Washington punter Ryan Plackemeier, but it's also due to the Eagles' abject failure to move the ball enough to give themselves some space.All four possessions: three pass plays and a punt."That's them," Smoot said. "When they're backed up, they throw their way out."

Westbrook hurt his shoulder early and his leg late in this game. He was mostly a decoy for teh most part. Hell, he couldn't even elude London Fletcher on that last drive.Believe me, I'm not defending Reid's playcalling in general. I agree that he abandons the run too early, but Westbrook wasn't much of a weapon yesterday.

 

[The Noid]

NFL Dropped Passes Leaders:

1. Braylon Edwards

2. LJ Smith

3. Asante Samuel

 

[GroveDiesel]

Fred Smoot, whose heads-up play kept Reggie Brown from scoring the tying touchdown as time ran out, was grateful. He looks over and sees Westbrook and that big offensive line and wonders why the Eagles don't run the ball more."To me, it shocks me," Smoot said. "Especially having a guy like 36 back there. My goodness. If I was a coach, I wouldn't have a game where he didn't touch the ball 25 times. I make sure I put the ball in his hands."The game was well within the Eagles' reach throughout the fourth quarter. They had four possessions before the one that ended on the 1-inch line. Yes, they had bad field position each time. That's partly due to Washington punter Ryan Plackemeier, but it's also due to the Eagles' abject failure to move the ball enough to give themselves some space.All four possessions: three pass plays and a punt."That's them," Smoot said. "When they're backed up, they throw their way out."

Westbrook hurt his shoulder early and his leg late in this game. He was mostly a decoy for teh most part. Hell, he couldn't even elude London Fletcher on that last drive.Believe me, I'm not defending Reid's playcalling in general. I agree that he abandons the run too early, but Westbrook wasn't much of a weapon yesterday.

The announcers kept talking about how Westbrook couldn't run away from Fletcher, but they failed to mention that he was slowed up because one of the refs didn't get out of the way. Westbrook had to slow down and sidestep the ref. I think he would have pulled away from Fletcher if he didn't have to dodge the ref. I don't think that Westbrook was as hobbled as they were making it sound. He was banged up, but I think he would have been just fine running the ball still.

 

[LTsharks]

Fred Smoot, whose heads-up play kept Reggie Brown from scoring the tying touchdown as time ran out, was grateful. He looks over and sees Westbrook and that big offensive line and wonders why the Eagles don't run the ball more.

"To me, it shocks me," Smoot said. "Especially having a guy like 36 back there. My goodness. If I was a coach, I wouldn't have a game where he didn't touch the ball 25 times. I make sure I put the ball in his hands."

The game was well within the Eagles' reach throughout the fourth quarter. They had four possessions before the one that ended on the 1-inch line. Yes, they had bad field position each time. That's partly due to Washington punter Ryan Plackemeier, but it's also due to the Eagles' abject failure to move the ball enough to give themselves some space.



All four possessions: three pass plays and a punt.

"That's them," Smoot said. "When they're backed up, they throw their way out."

But what do they do on the 5th possession - the one with 3:48 left on the clock? Start it with a run up the middle!! 37 seconds later they run the 2nd play of their hurry up, potential game tying drive. What a joke.From 3:48 to the 2 minute warning they moved the ball 26 yards.

 

[Jason Wood]

So classic...Eagles tie Cincy and we all basically resign ourselves to a lost season, then they go on a winning streak and put themselves in position to control their own destiny. Then the offense lays an egg against a floundering division rival. Pathetic.

Glad to see so many pointing out that McNabb wasn't to blame. Reid's play-calling, Westy's health and ultimately EIGHT DROPPED PASSES did us in.

 

[Crusaderfan]

Fred Smoot, whose heads-up play kept Reggie Brown from scoring the tying touchdown as time ran out, was grateful. He looks over and sees Westbrook and that big offensive line and wonders why the Eagles don't run the ball more."To me, it shocks me," Smoot said. "Especially having a guy like 36 back there. My goodness. If I was a coach, I wouldn't have a game where he didn't touch the ball 25 times. I make sure I put the ball in his hands."The game was well within the Eagles' reach throughout the fourth quarter. They had four possessions before the one that ended on the 1-inch line. Yes, they had bad field position each time. That's partly due to Washington punter Ryan Plackemeier, but it's also due to the Eagles' abject failure to move the ball enough to give themselves some space.All four possessions: three pass plays and a punt."That's them," Smoot said. "When they're backed up, they throw their way out."

Is there anybody left that still believes Reid is a good coach. This is at least the second time, this season, where players with questionable coaching staffs have known what the Eagles were gonna try to do. His act is so old it's getting to the point that I find them very hard to watch - let alone root for.

 

[renesauz]

That was one of the most frustrating games I've watched in years.

The offense has been on fire for the last three weeks with Marty calling the plays. WTF was Andy calling them for????????

McNabb was not at his best, but he was not the problem...he was actually part of the solution as he twice hit Jackson on deep passes that would have at least forced OT, only to watch peanut drop the damn ball. The pass to Brown was a perfect laser...but why did Brown break his route off 1 yd. short? Inexcusable there. For all of those who've been looking for McNabb to carry the Eagles to a big win....well, that should have been it last night.

I have defended AR until now. To take over the play-calling after the last three weeks is inexcusable. To pass 75% when McNabb is merely average and the wind conditions terrible (IN A CLOSE GAME) is inexcusable. You say Westy was hobbled? OK...what about Buckhalter? How many carries did C-Buck get? Buck should have seen 8-10 carries in a game like that, and Westbrook should have seen 8-10 short targets in the passing game with the WR's limited and dropping everything anyway.

Horrible job by the coaching staff.

 

[Ignatius Reilly]

I've never seen a team in my life conitnually take thier sweet ### time when down in close games under 4 minutes. It takes them a good 45 seconds to get a play off - downright pitiful

Yes Andy Reid needs to go, the complete disregard of the run with someone as awesome as Westbrook is mindboggling, but the questions is even if Lurie was to make a switch (which he's not) who are they brining in here that isnt going to take at least 2-3 season to get things roling with his own guys?

Nothing like watching McNabb throw the ball 100 times to WR's that are not big enough to intimidate. The best part of it is come opening day next year Greg Lewis will still be on the roster.

If the defense was such a beast then why did Wash contuually make big 3rd downs (prior to the 4Q) and Assante drop an easy INT. It was easier than the ball he dropped in the friggin superbowl. But its ok, he's going to the probowl

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

I've never seen a team in my life conitnually take thier sweet ### time when down in close games under 4 minutes. It takes them a good 45 seconds to get a play off - downright pitiful

Yes Andy Reid needs to go, the complete disregard of the run with someone as awesome as Westbrook is mindboggling, but the questions is even if Lurie was to make a switch (which he's not) who are they brining in here that isnt going to take at least 2-3 season to get things roling with his own guys?

Nothing like watching McNabb throw the ball 100 times to WR's that are not big enough to intimidate. The best part of it is come opening day next year Greg Lewis will still be on the roster.

If the defense was such a beast then why did Wash contuually make big 3rd downs (prior to the 4Q) and Assante drop an easy INT. It was easier than the ball he dropped in the friggin superbowl. But its ok, he's going to the probowl

Wat? The D gave up 10 pts and 7 of them were after McSquabb fumbled on their own 15. Yeah, they could've made a few more plays and the Asante drop was inexcusable, but i cant expect much more from the D in that game.I think someday we'll find out that Greg Lewis was actually Reid kids biggest customer. Cant cut the guy that will rat on you.

 

[JuniorNB]

I've never seen a team in my life conitnually take thier sweet ### time when down in close games under 4 minutes. It takes them a good 45 seconds to get a play off - downright pitiful

Yes Andy Reid needs to go, the complete disregard of the run with someone as awesome as Westbrook is mindboggling, but the questions is even if Lurie was to make a switch (which he's not) who are they brining in here that isnt going to take at least 2-3 season to get things roling with his own guys?

Nothing like watching McNabb throw the ball 100 times to WR's that are not big enough to intimidate. The best part of it is come opening day next year Greg Lewis will still be on the roster.

If the defense was such a beast then why did Wash contuually make big 3rd downs (prior to the 4Q) and Assante drop an easy INT. It was easier than the ball he dropped in the friggin superbowl. But its ok, he's going to the probowl

Wat? The D gave up 10 pts and 7 of them were after McSquabb fumbled on their own 15. Yeah, they could've made a few more plays and the Asante drop was inexcusable, but i cant expect much more from the D in that game.I think someday we'll find out that Greg Lewis was actually Reid kids biggest customer. Cant cut the guy that will rat on you.

I agree. No way the defense should take any of the blame for yesterday's loss. The offense had to giftwrap a ball in the redzone for Washington to be able to score on them.

 

[Ignatius Reilly]

I've never seen a team in my life conitnually take thier sweet ### time when down in close games under 4 minutes. It takes them a good 45 seconds to get a play off - downright pitiful

Yes Andy Reid needs to go, the complete disregard of the run with someone as awesome as Westbrook is mindboggling, but the questions is even if Lurie was to make a switch (which he's not) who are they brining in here that isnt going to take at least 2-3 season to get things roling with his own guys?

Nothing like watching McNabb throw the ball 100 times to WR's that are not big enough to intimidate. The best part of it is come opening day next year Greg Lewis will still be on the roster.

If the defense was such a beast then why did Wash contuually make big 3rd downs (prior to the 4Q) and Assante drop an easy INT. It was easier than the ball he dropped in the friggin superbowl. But its ok, he's going to the probowl

Wat? The D gave up 10 pts and 7 of them were after McSquabb fumbled on their own 15. Yeah, they could've made a few more plays and the Asante drop was inexcusable, but i cant expect much more from the D in that game.I think someday we'll find out that Greg Lewis was actually Reid kids biggest customer. Cant cut the guy that will rat on you.

The Asante dropped INT was inexcusable and could have broke the game open, they let them off the hook repeadetly in that game. Look, overall the defense played very well this year, thier LB stuation has come light years in just two off seasons, I feel real good about where this unit is going but the early 90's Eagles defense this is not. I understand what your saying though about this game espcially since they were on the field 3/4 of it The biggest problem I have with the fat man is that if he's going to be so predicatble and repeadetly throw the ball - why have you aligned yourself with a bunch of WR's that cant be difference makers from Curtis on down to Greg Lewis. So what if 10 guys have 200 yds recvieving - none of them strike any fear in the defense

I cant watch another season of this regime

 

[Ignatius Reilly]

I've never seen a team in my life conitnually take thier sweet ### time when down in close games under 4 minutes. It takes them a good 45 seconds to get a play off - downright pitiful

Yes Andy Reid needs to go, the complete disregard of the run with someone as awesome as Westbrook is mindboggling, but the questions is even if Lurie was to make a switch (which he's not) who are they brining in here that isnt going to take at least 2-3 season to get things roling with his own guys?

Nothing like watching McNabb throw the ball 100 times to WR's that are not big enough to intimidate. The best part of it is come opening day next year Greg Lewis will still be on the roster.

If the defense was such a beast then why did Wash contuually make big 3rd downs (prior to the 4Q) and Assante drop an easy INT. It was easier than the ball he dropped in the friggin superbowl. But its ok, he's going to the probowl

Wat? The D gave up 10 pts and 7 of them were after McSquabb fumbled on their own 15. Yeah, they could've made a few more plays and the Asante drop was inexcusable, but i cant expect much more from the D in that game.I think someday we'll find out that Greg Lewis was actually Reid kids biggest customer. Cant cut the guy that will rat on you.

I agree. No way the defense should take any of the blame for yesterday's loss. The offense had to giftwrap a ball in the redzone for Washington to be able to score on them.

Asante Samuel is making an ###load of money to make those type of plays in the crucial spots?? He let the team down big time there.

 

[Zoomanji]

hey how bout that. When it really mattered, Andy abandoned the run AGAIN. 50 called pass plays14 runsmoron

I think they had 4 running plays in the 2nd half. Absolutely unreal. Andy Reid really should be fired. How can you have one of the most dangerous offensive weapons in the game and barely use him?

A little clock management would have given us time down at the goalline too. Keep McNabb if you want, but it is time for Reid to go.

I know it will never happen, but I wish Lurie told Reid to take the freakin' Metroliner back home.

A little clock management would have given us time down at the goalline too. Keep McNabb if you want, but it is time for Reid to go.

Agree with this. I'm all for Mcnab staying but the fat man needs to go, I can't take him anymore. Let the national media kiss his butt on some other team. Put Mcnabb in a balanced attack and he is fine

[say what you want about McNabb, but he made three absolute money-passes in the fourth quarter today. The two that DeShaun Jackson dropped and the laser to Brown at the end.Before that, he definitely had his worst game since the Baltimore loss, but he simply needed Jackson to catch the ball late in the game and they were in overtime.

Agreed.McNabb is not the problem with this team.If we get rid of him we are in trouble, Kolb sucks.Reid needs to focus on his family because he is doing nothing for the Eagles, at least resign as GM.

Anyone blaming McNabb on this one is just plain stupid. Andy Reid, it's time to go. When I saw the menu in his hand and he was talking into his mic, I knew we were doomed. It was an obvious field position game from the start and Reid loses every time. F him. Funny thing is, his defense almost saved the day. I think it's time to cut the fat and we all know who that is. extremely :bitter:

Horrible coaching. I know it could be worse but it could also be better.Typical season for a Philly team

 

[Ignatius Reilly]

hey how bout that. When it really mattered, Andy abandoned the run AGAIN. 50 called pass plays14 runsmoron

I think they had 4 running plays in the 2nd half. Absolutely unreal. Andy Reid really should be fired. How can you have one of the most dangerous offensive weapons in the game and barely use him?

A little clock management would have given us time down at the goalline too. Keep McNabb if you want, but it is time for Reid to go.

I know it will never happen, but I wish Lurie told Reid to take the freakin' Metroliner back home.

A little clock management would have given us time down at the goalline too. Keep McNabb if you want, but it is time for Reid to go.

Agree with this. I'm all for Mcnab staying but the fat man needs to go, I can't take him anymore. Let the national media kiss his butt on some other team. Put Mcnabb in a balanced attack and he is fine

[say what you want about McNabb, but he made three absolute money-passes in the fourth quarter today. The two that DeShaun Jackson dropped and the laser to Brown at the end.Before that, he definitely had his worst game since the Baltimore loss, but he simply needed Jackson to catch the ball late in the game and they were in overtime.

Agreed.McNabb is not the problem with this team.If we get rid of him we are in trouble, Kolb sucks.Reid needs to focus on his family because he is doing nothing for the Eagles, at least resign as GM.

Anyone blaming McNabb on this one is just plain stupid. Andy Reid, it's time to go. When I saw the menu in his hand and he was talking into his mic, I knew we were doomed. It was an obvious field position game from the start and Reid loses every time. F him. Funny thing is, his defense almost saved the day. I think it's time to cut the fat and we all know who that is. extremely :bitter:

Horrible coaching. I know it could be worse but it could also be better.Typical season for a Philly team

I'd rather go 3-13 honestly, at least you know it's over before it begins. With this, they guys roped me in and kicked me in the balls AGAIN. They have been doing it to me for 29 years now.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

I've never seen a team in my life conitnually take thier sweet ### time when down in close games under 4 minutes. It takes them a good 45 seconds to get a play off - downright pitiful

Yes Andy Reid needs to go, the complete disregard of the run with someone as awesome as Westbrook is mindboggling, but the questions is even if Lurie was to make a switch (which he's not) who are they brining in here that isnt going to take at least 2-3 season to get things roling with his own guys?

Nothing like watching McNabb throw the ball 100 times to WR's that are not big enough to intimidate. The best part of it is come opening day next year Greg Lewis will still be on the roster.

If the defense was such a beast then why did Wash contuually make big 3rd downs (prior to the 4Q) and Assante drop an easy INT. It was easier than the ball he dropped in the friggin superbowl. But its ok, he's going to the probowl

Wat? The D gave up 10 pts and 7 of them were after McSquabb fumbled on their own 15. Yeah, they could've made a few more plays and the Asante drop was inexcusable, but i cant expect much more from the D in that game.I think someday we'll find out that Greg Lewis was actually Reid kids biggest customer. Cant cut the guy that will rat on you.

The Asante dropped INT was inexcusable and could have broke the game open, they let them off the hook repeadetly in that game. Look, overall the defense played very well this year, thier LB stuation has come light years in just two off seasons, I feel real good about where this unit is going but the early 90's Eagles defense this is not. I understand what your saying though about this game espcially since they were on the field 3/4 of it The biggest problem I have with the fat man is that if he's going to be so predicatble and repeadetly throw the ball - why have you aligned yourself with a bunch of WR's that cant be difference makers from Curtis on down to Greg Lewis. So what if 10 guys have 200 yds recvieving - none of them strike any fear in the defense

I cant watch another season of this regime

That Asante drop definitely hurt, but he was a stud for the rest of the game. I've been to 3 games this year and made sure i watched #22 a good part of the game. He absolutely shuts down the other teams WR. His only weakness IMO is that he is prone to the drops. Hey, maybe he can play WR next year Anyway, i seem to remember a BIG playoff game in NE where he dropped an INT. Might have actually been the SB last year. Cant quite remember.I actually like Baskett and Avant, but they only get on the field on 3rd downs. Avant is the only reliable 3rd down WR we have and he barely plays. Baskett has the size and speed to be a legit NFL WR, but again, he barely plays (i know he was hurt this week).

I think it comes down the Andy and the FO still believing in their system. That the "system" is the key and can win games. That works great against the dregs of the NFL. But, as soon as they face a legit team, a player, not the system, needs to make plays. Even the Patriots belief in their "system" over the past decade was supported by a HOF QB and some decent WRs

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

http://www.comcast.net/sports/russakoffrules/19560/perfect/

Lee Russakoff

Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:34:29 GMT

At the end of The Last Samurai, Katsumoto achieves his ultimate goal—the perfect death. It’s not that he wants to die, he just knows—like everyone else—he will die. So he longs to go out "perfectly.”

He gets his wish when he is killed on the battlefield with his best buddy Tom Cruise by his side and his favorite tree, the cherry blossom, in front of him in full bloom.

"Perfect.”

That’s exactly how I feel about the Eagles today. I didn’t want them to die, but I knew they eventually had to. They were neither good enough nor well-coached enough to go anywhere this year.

So if they were destined to go out…I hoped they could go out like Katsumoto: perfectly.

And that’s exactly what they did Sunday against the Redskins. Three points all game…a 78 percent pass-run ratio…and still coming within 18 inches of winning a game…

That loss was perfect.

Think about it, can a game more perfectly expose all of the ’08 Eagles’ weaknesses?

The coach refused to run the ball and bungled a much-needed second-half timeout, the running back couldn’t stay healthy, the quarterback kept throwing at the receivers’ feet, the receivers got zero separation, and when they got separation they dropped the ball.

And then there was that last drive. Because in Philly, there’s always a last drive.

The Eagles never just disappoint…they disappoint, then give fans a glimmer of false hope, then break fans’ hearts all over again.

This time they did it with 18 inches.

Nice route, Reggie. It was perfect.

Perfect because you can already hear the spin the Eagles front office is going to give fans this offseason. "We’re so close. We’re really just a yard away. If we get that yard against the Bears and the Redskins, we’re 11-4-1 and get a first-round bye.”

This time, though, the fans know better. They know the Eagles cannot win as currently constructed and coached.

It’s been the same script and same excuses for four straight years now. Four seasons since the Super Bowl, and the Eagles have been inferiorly talented all four.

But the truth is, the Eagles have a litany of problems. It’s not just talent. It’s coaching. It’s philosophy. It’s an inability to adapt.

But the coach, the players, and the front office refuse to see what is so clear to the rest of us. They all insist it’s still 2004, and this team is still the best the National Football Conference has to offer.

The Gold Standard.

Except the Gold Standard’s only playoff berth post-T.O. was sheriffed by Jeff Garcia—directly correlated with the coach’s sudden lapse into a balanced-play-calling delirium.

And while that delirium seems to recur each year, and always coincides with an Eagle winning streak, it never lasts.

Invariably, Andy regains his insanity. Invariably, Andy returns his offense back to that one-dimensional train wreck we all have gotten to know so well. Invariably, Andy throws, throws, and throws some more.

And invariably, the Eagles lose games just like they did on Sunday. With a whimper.

I feel like a paycheck. Week after week I keep saying the same thing.

No matter how many times the Eagles' offense fails when it is unbalanced and succeeds when it is balanced, Reid is going to go back to over-passing. It’s all he knows.

When he gets bogged down, he passes. When he gets ahead, he passes. When he gets behind, he passes. When he gets a chance to pick a player in the first round of the NFL draft, he passes.

The Eagles called 14 run plays and 50 pass plays Sunday. Their first four drives of the fourth quarter were all three-and-outs. All 12 plays were passes.

Reid was asked about the imbalance and replied, "We were trying to get something started any way we possibly could.”

That’s true as long as "any way” doesn’t include running the football.

In a close game, Big Red scored three points on 50 called passes and still can’t bring himself to admit that the NFL may have passed him and his pass-first offense by.

No matter how many times the Eagles fail, as long as Andy Reid is here, the game plan is simple.

When a passing play doesn’t work...

the Eagles pass.

When the quarterback is clearly off his game and hitting no one in stride...

the Eagles pass.

When the receivers (those on the field) make it clear that they can’t catch a cab...

the Eagles pass.

And when all the Birds need to do to control their own playoff destiny is score 11 points on a Redskins team that has already quit on its coach...

the Eagles passed.

Perfect.

 

[GroveDiesel]

When he gets bogged down, he passes. When he gets ahead, he passes. When he gets behind, he passes. When he gets a chance to pick a player in the first round of the NFL draft, he passes.

In the press conference, when asked why they passed so much and abandoned the run, Reid said that they did it because the Redskinss put 8 in the box. That's it. That was the reason why. So apparently teams can completely take Westbrook out of the game simply by putting 8 guys in the box. There's some genius coaching right there for you!