***Official*** FFA iDating Thread (2 Viewers)

[Uruk-Hai]

It's a win situation for the girl and a lose situation for the guy IMO.

The Ladder Theory

Yeah, I got to page one where it said that women's immediate analysis of a guy is based 50% on "money/power". Preposterous. Just another "theory" put together by a guy wondering why he doesn't score, blaming it all on what he senses he doesn't have.

With all due respect, women are the worst people to get advice from about women.

They might not be the best, but I have to think they're at least equal to a misogynistic website and a site full of fantasy football players. Could we at least agree that, rather than generalizing as to who is or is not the best to give advice, the best people to listen to are those who, regardless of gender or anything else, seem well-reasoned, together, and intuitive? Cuz if we can't agree on that, then everyone here had might as well do nothing but abide by GordonGekko posts.

Gotta agree with krista here. I've had some women who have given me horrible advice on dating (some had ulterior motives, some didn't) & have had some who have given me good advice on the species. Same with men - some are good at it, some are bad. And some of both genders are good sometimes & awful at others.I'll say this, though: if I were to rank all of the people who have given me advice on women over the course of my life by the quality of that advice, the top 3 would be female. Maybe my experience is an anomoly

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Ok, this isn't really a date but I want to get an honest take on this.A friend who I'm attracted to invited me over for the 4th. Other people will be there obviously. I live kinda far from her place so I told her I can't stay out until the wee hours of the morning because I have to work the next day. She said I should sleep over.This made me think I had an opportunity to hook up. Then a few e-mails were passed and she was talking about my friends and said something like 'if anyone wants to crash they can'. This makes me think that she wasn't targeting me at all.A little context to this friendship. I asked her out a few years ago and she wasn't 'bout it. Immediately after then, I avoided her because I knew I was in the friend zone. Ever since then, she's always asking me to hang out. I've done it a few times at parties but never thought anything of it. Now that she asked me to sleep over, I'm wondering if I have a small chance. Do girls ever change their mind about the friend zone? I figure I'll just bring a toothbrush and feel it out.

Honest take...I think when girls put you in the friend zone, you're pretty much stuck there. There's no one I've ever put in that category and later changed my mind.This doesn't mean you have no chance - every woman is different. But I would definitely make the same offer to a guy I just considered a friend, and the fact that she's said others could stay, too, indicates she's just making a friendly offer and nothing more. If you had never broached the "more than friends" subject before, I'd say it was a sign, but here it probably isn't.I'd be VERY happy if it turns out that I'm wrong, though, and you should do it and just play it by ear!

Krista, let me ask you something about this. I had a very close female friend tell me once that she would put guys that were interested in her on the friends-bench (provided that she really wanted to be friends with them) as sort of backups to the guys she was actually involved with/interested in. Like you, she never actually called them back into the game, but she had them as kind of a security blanket or a mild ego-stroke - it's nice to know someone is interested in you after all, even if you don't want to persue it. She wasn't faking the friendship, mind you; it just added something to it. She did mention that this was from the files of Things Women Should Never Tell Men and only her being a little tipsy led to her breaking Female Protocol. IIRC, this all came about because she was consoling my whiny ### over some woman or other who didn't want to "risk our friendship" by becoming romantic. She also mentioned that this was more common with younger women (20s) than those in their 30s & beyond (though both myself & the "I don't want to risk our friendship" woman were in our late 30s).Anyway, I know everybody's different. I've broached this subject several times over the years with other women & gotten a variety of responses, but enough that agreed with my friend to make me think that this type of thinking is fairly prevalent. I really don't think there's anything terribly wrong with this in most cases - it's mostly benign and there's no real damage done. But I do think it's important for guys to be able to recognize when this may be happening. The communication gap between men & women is wide enough when things are going well, to say nothing of it when one party has interest and the other doesn't.Thoughts?

Interesting. I'm trying to think of people I know that I feel have done this, but I'm not coming up with any. As you said, everybody's different, but I'd be surprised if this were prevalent. For me, it's exactly the opposite - when I am friends with a guy I know is interested in something more, it's exceedingly uncomfortable for me. I'd much rather he weren't interested and could just look at me as a friend. It's no fun to me to feel like someone is disappointed and hoping that our relationship will change into something that it will never be. I think your friend is far from speaking from all or even a majority of women, and there's no "Female Protocol" here that I'm aware of. But then again, I can't speak for all or a majority of women either.

My friend was being a tongue-in-cheek a bit with the Female Protocol thing. And I'm not really saying there's any formalized thinking in what she said; it seems as it's more instinct than plan (which, reading back over what I wrote, it seems like I was saying). Myself, I'm more like you in that I'd be uncomfortable if I knew a woman was interested in me romantically when I didn't feel the same.

 

[ChampBailey24]

I still don't get the whole guys with girls who are their friends shtick. I don't see anything positive a guy can get out of that sort of relationship. It's a win situation for the girl and a lose situation for the guy IMO. The only serious female friends I've had are wives/girlfriends of my guy friends. In a guy/girl friend relationship the girl has all the "hand"

OK, I'll be the here...what do girls get out of these friendships that guys don't? Why are they winning and guys are losing, by having an additional friend?

Because weather you want to believe it or not all a woman's guy friends(except the gay ones and most married ones) want the relationship to be physical on some level. The guy himself may not even realize it but deep down in a mans primal soul that's what he wants. Woman on the other hand don't, made clear in Early's post above. A woman can string a guy along as a friend, boosting her ego, mock flirting, knowing that she isn't interested in the physical part. But all along she's giving the guy just enough of a taste to keep him hungry and wanting. That's not a good situation for a guy to be in IMO.

Wow, so much bitterness today. I'm sorry that you have not had good friendships with women. But your experience is not the same as every guy's, just as mine is not the same as every woman's. And truly, your viewpoint sounds to me awfully 1950s-ish. I realize there was a time when women and men looked at each other solely as potential mates, whether long-term or as a one-night-stand, but I think those days are long gone. God knows I don't need a guy to "string along as a friend" to boost my ego or mock flirt or any such thing. But it does so happen that a lot of my interests - such as football and other sports, as well as most of the music I listen to - are interests that I share with a lot more guys than women. Also so happens that by virtue of my work, I meet a whole lot more guys than I do women, and as a result over the course of my life I'd count more guys as good friends than women. Maybe my guy friends want to sleep with me. As long as we both know that it's not going to happen, which we clearly do, and they obviously value having me as a friend anyway, how is that bad for either of us? We're both getting what we want, which is another fun companion for doing the things we like to do.Again, sounds like you've had an experience or two where a woman led you to think there was more - "used" you perhaps. If that's the case, that sucks, but it doesn't mean that your experience is the norm or the only way women and men interact. You're painting a picture of guys as helpless beings, or women as manipulative beings, when such broad generalizations seem completely unreasonable in 2007. End of

Nope, I've never been used or hurt by a woman. I've been with my wife since I was 17. I've seen these kinds of relationships from the outside though and IMO it's not a good situation for the guy. I think one thing and you think another(being a woman I'd expect you to think that way), I think I'm right you think you're right, some will agree with me some with you that's what makes the world go round :(This philosophy is more aimed at a single guy. I'm married and I have great relationships with women. All the females in my groups inner circle like me a great deal to the point where they even confide in me on occasion. I just think it's a no win for a single guy.

Sorry krista but that guy speaks the truth. He might have exaggerated, I guess because we do benefit a bit from our friendships with girls but he's right.

 

[parasaurolophus]

I still don't get the whole guys with girls who are their friends shtick. I don't see anything positive a guy can get out of that sort of relationship. It's a win situation for the girl and a lose situation for the guy IMO. The only serious female friends I've had are wives/girlfriends of my guy friends. In a guy/girl friend relationship the girl has all the "hand"

I can't even comment on that. It sounds completely ridiculous to me. So you don't garner any benefit from the friendship with those wives/gfs of your guy friends? You can't just have a game of pool with a girl and be buddies? Wow. I go bowling in a mixed league, watch the hockey game with the guys, go dancing....suddenly every man still has in the back of his mind that the best he could get out of this is sex?I think you're giving some great men a bad name. And wholeheartedly disagree with your conclusion.

Apparently, you're only saying that because you're a woman.

Who hangs out most days with a bunch of guys who see no purpose to me other than a place to stick their ****. Yeah, theres a world view for ya.

I hate to break it to ya early, but if what you said is true about being 38DD, then these men don't care what your thoughts are on anything.They just want you to bowl strikes and celebrate.I am sure you are a cool girl, I enjoy reading your posts here and ther:e: but that just means they dont care if you stick around after the deed if they ever get that far.

 

[mr. furley]

I still don't get the whole guys with girls who are their friends shtick. I don't see anything positive a guy can get out of that sort of relationship. It's a win situation for the girl and a lose situation for the guy IMO. The only serious female friends I've had are wives/girlfriends of my guy friends. In a guy/girl friend relationship the girl has all the "hand"

OK, I'll be the here...what do girls get out of these friendships that guys don't? Why are they winning and guys are losing, by having an additional friend?

Because weather you want to believe it or not all a woman's guy friends(except the gay ones and most married ones) want the relationship to be physical on some level. The guy himself may not even realize it but deep down in a mans primal soul that's what he wants. Woman on the other hand don't, made clear in Early's post above. A woman can string a guy along as a friend, boosting her ego, mock flirting, knowing that she isn't interested in the physical part. But all along she's giving the guy just enough of a taste to keep him hungry and wanting. That's not a good situation for a guy to be in IMO.

Wow, so much bitterness today. I'm sorry that you have not had good friendships with women. But your experience is not the same as every guy's, just as mine is not the same as every woman's. And truly, your viewpoint sounds to me awfully 1950s-ish. I realize there was a time when women and men looked at each other solely as potential mates, whether long-term or as a one-night-stand, but I think those days are long gone. God knows I don't need a guy to "string along as a friend" to boost my ego or mock flirt or any such thing. But it does so happen that a lot of my interests - such as football and other sports, as well as most of the music I listen to - are interests that I share with a lot more guys than women. Also so happens that by virtue of my work, I meet a whole lot more guys than I do women, and as a result over the course of my life I'd count more guys as good friends than women. Maybe my guy friends want to sleep with me. As long as we both know that it's not going to happen, which we clearly do, and they obviously value having me as a friend anyway, how is that bad for either of us? We're both getting what we want, which is another fun companion for doing the things we like to do.Again, sounds like you've had an experience or two where a woman led you to think there was more - "used" you perhaps. If that's the case, that sucks, but it doesn't mean that your experience is the norm or the only way women and men interact. You're painting a picture of guys as helpless beings, or women as manipulative beings, when such broad generalizations seem completely unreasonable in 2007. End of

there are always outliers. you're part of less than 1% of women i'd guess. probably more like 0.5% or so.

 

[BassNBrew]

Update posted at the underground.

 

[Bankerguy]

Update posted at the underground.

You are a busy dude. I was like that a few weeks back, it is both tiring and a killer on the finances.Very nice GB.

 

[Bankerguy]

Pics of me licking the whip cream off of "Hot Cougar" at the dinner table are now up on the Underground. (Although I think Stu has to accept the pic first)

Update: I have deleted my on-line profile. Also, I started contacting those I was chatting with to let them know this. So, I am "dating" Hot Cougar officially I guess. We have seen each other everyday since Friday. Both really into each other. I am ready to just date her. My only concern is our age difference. Her 40, me 33. It's only a # though, we seem to have a fair amount in common and always have fun.

The third wheel is still royally pissed off at both of us (we were both good friends with 3rd wheel). She is writing crap about us on her facebook and acting like a total highschool chick. My goodness!

I guess I'll be like Krista and just stop in to throw my $0.02 in from time-to-time and root the others on.

 

[Woz]

Partly-related update:

Still no word from AMBO or the two chicks I was supposed to have dates with this week. Don't know where I went wrong quite honestly. Oh well. Looks like I still have one lined up Friday with a chick whose pic I'll update on the underground when I get a chance. Saw her facebook pic - she's a bit partier and looks pretty fun. Also had a date lined up but then the chick tells me that "she's put a few pounds on" since her pic I saw so that has me reeling.

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

 

[Disco Stu]

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

The daughters won't call. They'll be too embarrassed to call a number they got from their mother. If you want to pursue this, you'll have to take the initiative.

 

[Disco Stu]

As of today, my divorce is ***OFFICIAL***.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

As of today, my divorce is ***OFFICIAL***.

 

[Woz]

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

The daughters won't call. They'll be too embarrassed to call a number they got from their mother. If you want to pursue this, you'll have to take the initiative.

And say what, "hey your mom, after a few cocktails, thinks I'd make a great boyfriend for you and since I have nothing else lined up on my plate right now and need the assistance of 50 year olds to get hooked up, wanna go out?"

 

[Disco Stu]

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

The daughters won't call. They'll be too embarrassed to call a number they got from their mother. If you want to pursue this, you'll have to take the initiative.

And say what, "hey your mom, after a few cocktails, thinks I'd make a great boyfriend for you and since I have nothing else lined up on my plate right now and need the assistance of 50 year olds to get hooked up, wanna go out?"

Yeah, but you know, make it sound a little better. Options are this or never meet these hot single girls...

 

[Disco Stu]

Pics of me licking the whip cream off of "Hot Cougar" at the dinner table are now up on the Underground. (Although I think Stu has to accept the pic first)

I've never had to approve any pics. It looks like there must have been a problem with the upload attempt - it's showing up as 0 bytes. Give it another try.

 

[Bankerguy]

Pics of me licking the whip cream off of "Hot Cougar" at the dinner table are now up on the Underground. (Although I think Stu has to accept the pic first)

I've never had to approve any pics. It looks like there must have been a problem with the upload attempt - it's showing up as 0 bytes. Give it another try.

OK....can you also delete the one I posted of myself in error...LOL.Tried.....it won't work??? I'd be happy to email it to someone else to post.

 

[Kraft...]

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

The daughters won't call. They'll be too embarrassed to call a number they got from their mother. If you want to pursue this, you'll have to take the initiative.

And say what, "hey your mom, after a few cocktails, thinks I'd make a great boyfriend for you and since I have nothing else lined up on my plate right now and need the assistance of 50 year olds to get hooked up, wanna go out?"

Seems like a great ice breaker to me

 

[Disco Stu]

Pics of me licking the whip cream off of "Hot Cougar" at the dinner table are now up on the Underground. (Although I think Stu has to accept the pic first)

I've never had to approve any pics. It looks like there must have been a problem with the upload attempt - it's showing up as 0 bytes. Give it another try.

OK....can you also delete the one I posted of myself in error...LOL.Tried.....it won't work??? I'd be happy to email it to someone else to post.

Yeah, I just deleted that one. Go ahead and email it to me (see my profile there for address).

 

[Drifter]

Quick summary on the last 3 weeks?

 

[Bankerguy]

Pics of me licking the whip cream off of "Hot Cougar" at the dinner table are now up on the Underground. (Although I think Stu has to accept the pic first)

I've never had to approve any pics. It looks like there must have been a problem with the upload attempt - it's showing up as 0 bytes. Give it another try.

OK....can you also delete the one I posted of myself in error...LOL.Tried.....it won't work??? I'd be happy to email it to someone else to post.

Yeah, I just deleted that one. Go ahead and email it to me (see my profile there for address).

Nevermind...I am stupid.I figured it out. Pic is up.

 

[BassNBrew]

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

The daughters won't call. They'll be too embarrassed to call a number they got from their mother. If you want to pursue this, you'll have to take the initiative.

And say what, "hey your mom, after a few cocktails, thinks I'd make a great boyfriend for you and since I have nothing else lined up on my plate right now and need the assistance of 50 year olds to get hooked up, wanna go out?"

Plus how many girls want their mom to hook them up. I'd write it off.

 

[BassNBrew]

Quick summary on the last 3 weeks?

Everyone is scoring but Woz... and me

 

[krista4]

I still don't get the whole guys with girls who are their friends shtick. I don't see anything positive a guy can get out of that sort of relationship. It's a win situation for the girl and a lose situation for the guy IMO. The only serious female friends I've had are wives/girlfriends of my guy friends. In a guy/girl friend relationship the girl has all the "hand"

OK, I'll be the here...what do girls get out of these friendships that guys don't? Why are they winning and guys are losing, by having an additional friend?

Because weather you want to believe it or not all a woman's guy friends(except the gay ones and most married ones) want the relationship to be physical on some level. The guy himself may not even realize it but deep down in a mans primal soul that's what he wants. Woman on the other hand don't, made clear in Early's post above. A woman can string a guy along as a friend, boosting her ego, mock flirting, knowing that she isn't interested in the physical part. But all along she's giving the guy just enough of a taste to keep him hungry and wanting. That's not a good situation for a guy to be in IMO.

Wow, so much bitterness today. I'm sorry that you have not had good friendships with women. But your experience is not the same as every guy's, just as mine is not the same as every woman's. And truly, your viewpoint sounds to me awfully 1950s-ish. I realize there was a time when women and men looked at each other solely as potential mates, whether long-term or as a one-night-stand, but I think those days are long gone. God knows I don't need a guy to "string along as a friend" to boost my ego or mock flirt or any such thing. But it does so happen that a lot of my interests - such as football and other sports, as well as most of the music I listen to - are interests that I share with a lot more guys than women. Also so happens that by virtue of my work, I meet a whole lot more guys than I do women, and as a result over the course of my life I'd count more guys as good friends than women. Maybe my guy friends want to sleep with me. As long as we both know that it's not going to happen, which we clearly do, and they obviously value having me as a friend anyway, how is that bad for either of us? We're both getting what we want, which is another fun companion for doing the things we like to do.Again, sounds like you've had an experience or two where a woman led you to think there was more - "used" you perhaps. If that's the case, that sucks, but it doesn't mean that your experience is the norm or the only way women and men interact. You're painting a picture of guys as helpless beings, or women as manipulative beings, when such broad generalizations seem completely unreasonable in 2007. End of

there are always outliers. you're part of less than 1% of women i'd guess. probably more like 0.5% or so.

:( I guess I am generally too optimistic about women (and men, for that matter).

 

[Woz]

Quick summary on the last 3 weeks?

Everyone is scoring but Woz... and me

Hey, I landed a psycho!

 

[krista4]

I still don't get the whole guys with girls who are their friends shtick. I don't see anything positive a guy can get out of that sort of relationship. It's a win situation for the girl and a lose situation for the guy IMO. The only serious female friends I've had are wives/girlfriends of my guy friends. In a guy/girl friend relationship the girl has all the "hand" :X

I can't even comment on that. It sounds completely ridiculous to me. So you don't garner any benefit from the friendship with those wives/gfs of your guy friends? You can't just have a game of pool with a girl and be buddies? Wow. I go bowling in a mixed league, watch the hockey game with the guys, go dancing....suddenly every man still has in the back of his mind that the best he could get out of this is sex?I think you're giving some great men a bad name. And wholeheartedly disagree with your conclusion.

Apparently, you're only saying that because you're a woman.

Who hangs out most days with a bunch of guys who see no purpose to me other than a place to stick their ****. Yeah, theres a world view for ya.

I hate to break it to ya early, but if what you said is true about being 38DD, then these men don't care what your thoughts are on anything.They just want you to bowl strikes and celebrate.I am sure you are a cool girl, I enjoy reading your posts here and ther:e: but that just means they dont care if you stick around after the deed if they ever get that far.

I don't have 38DDs, so I guess my guy friends are really my friends!

 

[Woz]

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

:X The daughters won't call. They'll be too embarrassed to call a number they got from their mother. If you want to pursue this, you'll have to take the initiative.

And say what, "hey your mom, after a few cocktails, thinks I'd make a great boyfriend for you and since I have nothing else lined up on my plate right now and need the assistance of 50 year olds to get hooked up, wanna go out?"

Plus how many girls want their mom to hook them up. I'd write it off.

That's what I'm guessing. Most girls I know hate when their family sets them up. My ex's family did this and she told me she wouldn't have gone out with me because of this, but my good looks and charm won her over.

 

[krista4]

Ok, this isn't really a date but I want to get an honest take on this.A friend who I'm attracted to invited me over for the 4th. Other people will be there obviously. I live kinda far from her place so I told her I can't stay out until the wee hours of the morning because I have to work the next day. She said I should sleep over.This made me think I had an opportunity to hook up. Then a few e-mails were passed and she was talking about my friends and said something like 'if anyone wants to crash they can'. This makes me think that she wasn't targeting me at all.A little context to this friendship. I asked her out a few years ago and she wasn't 'bout it. Immediately after then, I avoided her because I knew I was in the friend zone. Ever since then, she's always asking me to hang out. I've done it a few times at parties but never thought anything of it. Now that she asked me to sleep over, I'm wondering if I have a small chance. Do girls ever change their mind about the friend zone? I figure I'll just bring a toothbrush and feel it out.

Update?

 

[krista4]

Pics of me licking the whip cream off of "Hot Cougar" at the dinner table are now up on the Underground. (Although I think Stu has to accept the pic first)Update: I have deleted my on-line profile. Also, I started contacting those I was chatting with to let them know this. So, I am "dating" Hot Cougar officially I guess. We have seen each other everyday since Friday. Both really into each other. I am ready to just date her. My only concern is our age difference. Her 40, me 33. It's only a # though, we seem to have a fair amount in common and always have fun. The third wheel is still royally pissed off at both of us (we were both good friends with 3rd wheel). She is writing crap about us on her facebook and acting like a total highschool chick. My goodness! I guess I'll be like Krista and just stop in to throw my $0.02 in from time-to-time and root the others on.

I've been throwin' in :X , baby, not just This is a great update. Funny that it turned out you're getting in a relationship with a non iDate. This is something maybe we can all agree on: when it rains, it pours, dating-wise. Definitely want to hear updates now and then about how it's going!

 

[krista4]

As of today, my divorce is ***OFFICIAL***.

:X Huge congrats on that--hope you're celebrating somehow!

 

[krista4]

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

The daughters won't call. They'll be too embarrassed to call a number they got from their mother. If you want to pursue this, you'll have to take the initiative.

And say what, "hey your mom, after a few cocktails, thinks I'd make a great boyfriend for you and since I have nothing else lined up on my plate right now and need the assistance of 50 year olds to get hooked up, wanna go out?"

Plus how many girls want their mom to hook them up. I'd write it off.

That's what I'm guessing. Most girls I know hate when their family sets them up. My ex's family did this and she told me she wouldn't have gone out with me because of this, but my good looks and charm won her over.

I'd kill my mom if she did something like that, but luckily my mom is smart enough to know better. I just don't see any way to play this one.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

The daughters won't call. They'll be too embarrassed to call a number they got from their mother. If you want to pursue this, you'll have to take the initiative.

And say what, "hey your mom, after a few cocktails, thinks I'd make a great boyfriend for you and since I have nothing else lined up on my plate right now and need the assistance of 50 year olds to get hooked up, wanna go out?"

Plus how many girls want their mom to hook them up. I'd write it off.

That's what I'm guessing. Most girls I know hate when their family sets them up. My ex's family did this and she told me she wouldn't have gone out with me because of this, but my good looks and charm won her over.

I'd kill my mom if she did something like that, but luckily my mom is smart enough to know better. I just don't see any way to play this one.

You meet the girl, your ONLY play is to say, "Yeah, your mom wanted to hook us up, but I'm starting to think that's not a good idea."Anything else, and she won't want to talk to you. You say that, and she'll have to know why.

 

[Bankerguy]

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

The daughters won't call. They'll be too embarrassed to call a number they got from their mother. If you want to pursue this, you'll have to take the initiative.

And say what, "hey your mom, after a few cocktails, thinks I'd make a great boyfriend for you and since I have nothing else lined up on my plate right now and need the assistance of 50 year olds to get hooked up, wanna go out?"

Plus how many girls want their mom to hook them up. I'd write it off.

That's what I'm guessing. Most girls I know hate when their family sets them up. My ex's family did this and she told me she wouldn't have gone out with me because of this, but my good looks and charm won her over.

I'd kill my mom if she did something like that, but luckily my mom is smart enough to know better. I just don't see any way to play this one.

You meet the girl, your ONLY play is to say, "Yeah, your mom wanted to hook us up, but I'm starting to think that's not a good idea."Anything else, and she won't want to talk to you. You say that, and she'll have to know why.

There is no good way to play this.

 

[BassNBrew]

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

The daughters won't call. They'll be too embarrassed to call a number they got from their mother. If you want to pursue this, you'll have to take the initiative.

And say what, "hey your mom, after a few cocktails, thinks I'd make a great boyfriend for you and since I have nothing else lined up on my plate right now and need the assistance of 50 year olds to get hooked up, wanna go out?"

Plus how many girls want their mom to hook them up. I'd write it off.

That's what I'm guessing. Most girls I know hate when their family sets them up. My ex's family did this and she told me she wouldn't have gone out with me because of this, but my good looks and charm won her over.

I'd kill my mom if she did something like that, but luckily my mom is smart enough to know better. I just don't see any way to play this one. :(

You meet the girl, your ONLY play is to say, "Yeah, your mom wanted to hook us up, but I'm starting to think that's not a good idea."Anything else, and she won't want to talk to you. You say that, and she'll have to know why.

There is no good way to play this.

Depends on how hot the mom is...but I see one way.

 

[Bankerguy]

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

The daughters won't call. They'll be too embarrassed to call a number they got from their mother. If you want to pursue this, you'll have to take the initiative.

And say what, "hey your mom, after a few cocktails, thinks I'd make a great boyfriend for you and since I have nothing else lined up on my plate right now and need the assistance of 50 year olds to get hooked up, wanna go out?"

Plus how many girls want their mom to hook them up. I'd write it off.

That's what I'm guessing. Most girls I know hate when their family sets them up. My ex's family did this and she told me she wouldn't have gone out with me because of this, but my good looks and charm won her over.

I'd kill my mom if she did something like that, but luckily my mom is smart enough to know better. I just don't see any way to play this one. :(

You meet the girl, your ONLY play is to say, "Yeah, your mom wanted to hook us up, but I'm starting to think that's not a good idea."Anything else, and she won't want to talk to you. You say that, and she'll have to know why.

There is no good way to play this.

Depends on how hot the mom is...but I see one way.

Tell them all you got 3 phone numbers that night and you want to have a little contest to see who is most worthy. LMAO.

 

[parasaurolophus]

I still don't get the whole guys with girls who are their friends shtick. I don't see anything positive a guy can get out of that sort of relationship. It's a win situation for the girl and a lose situation for the guy IMO. The only serious female friends I've had are wives/girlfriends of my guy friends. In a guy/girl friend relationship the girl has all the "hand"

I can't even comment on that. It sounds completely ridiculous to me. So you don't garner any benefit from the friendship with those wives/gfs of your guy friends? You can't just have a game of pool with a girl and be buddies? Wow. I go bowling in a mixed league, watch the hockey game with the guys, go dancing....suddenly every man still has in the back of his mind that the best he could get out of this is sex?I think you're giving some great men a bad name. And wholeheartedly disagree with your conclusion.

Apparently, you're only saying that because you're a woman. :X

Who hangs out most days with a bunch of guys who see no purpose to me other than a place to stick their ****. Yeah, theres a world view for ya.

I hate to break it to ya early, but if what you said is true about being 38DD, then these men don't care what your thoughts are on anything.They just want you to bowl strikes and celebrate.I am sure you are a cool girl, I enjoy reading your posts here and ther:e: but that just means they dont care if you stick around after the deed if they ever get that far.

I don't have 38DDs, so I guess my guy friends are really my friends!

still not. they just dont care if you celebrate after bowling strikes.

 

[Woz]

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

The daughters won't call. They'll be too embarrassed to call a number they got from their mother. If you want to pursue this, you'll have to take the initiative.

And say what, "hey your mom, after a few cocktails, thinks I'd make a great boyfriend for you and since I have nothing else lined up on my plate right now and need the assistance of 50 year olds to get hooked up, wanna go out?"

Plus how many girls want their mom to hook them up. I'd write it off.

That's what I'm guessing. Most girls I know hate when their family sets them up. My ex's family did this and she told me she wouldn't have gone out with me because of this, but my good looks and charm won her over.

I'd kill my mom if she did something like that, but luckily my mom is smart enough to know better. I just don't see any way to play this one. :(

You meet the girl, your ONLY play is to say, "Yeah, your mom wanted to hook us up, but I'm starting to think that's not a good idea."Anything else, and she won't want to talk to you. You say that, and she'll have to know why.

There is no good way to play this.

Probably not, but I will admit how good looking these girls were, especially one in particular and it was her mom that was the most forward. She pretty much told me to go out and play golf at her country club where the daughter worked (which is like 3 hrs. away) just so I could bump into her and put the moves on her like I didn't know who she was. I can see this mother pushing this thing hard, but granted if the daughter is mildly sane she probably won't stand for it. Although I will note all the moms took pictures of me so I'll say I got a chance.

 

[krista4]

I still don't get the whole guys with girls who are their friends shtick. I don't see anything positive a guy can get out of that sort of relationship. It's a win situation for the girl and a lose situation for the guy IMO. The only serious female friends I've had are wives/girlfriends of my guy friends. In a guy/girl friend relationship the girl has all the "hand"

I can't even comment on that. It sounds completely ridiculous to me. So you don't garner any benefit from the friendship with those wives/gfs of your guy friends? You can't just have a game of pool with a girl and be buddies? Wow. I go bowling in a mixed league, watch the hockey game with the guys, go dancing....suddenly every man still has in the back of his mind that the best he could get out of this is sex?I think you're giving some great men a bad name. And wholeheartedly disagree with your conclusion.

Apparently, you're only saying that because you're a woman. :X

Who hangs out most days with a bunch of guys who see no purpose to me other than a place to stick their ****. Yeah, theres a world view for ya.

I hate to break it to ya early, but if what you said is true about being 38DD, then these men don't care what your thoughts are on anything.They just want you to bowl strikes and celebrate.I am sure you are a cool girl, I enjoy reading your posts here and ther:e: but that just means they dont care if you stick around after the deed if they ever get that far.

I don't have 38DDs, so I guess my guy friends are really my friends!

still not. they just dont care if you celebrate after bowling strikes.

:(

 

[krista4]

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

The daughters won't call. They'll be too embarrassed to call a number they got from their mother. If you want to pursue this, you'll have to take the initiative.

And say what, "hey your mom, after a few cocktails, thinks I'd make a great boyfriend for you and since I have nothing else lined up on my plate right now and need the assistance of 50 year olds to get hooked up, wanna go out?"

Plus how many girls want their mom to hook them up. I'd write it off.

That's what I'm guessing. Most girls I know hate when their family sets them up. My ex's family did this and she told me she wouldn't have gone out with me because of this, but my good looks and charm won her over.

I'd kill my mom if she did something like that, but luckily my mom is smart enough to know better. I just don't see any way to play this one. :(

You meet the girl, your ONLY play is to say, "Yeah, your mom wanted to hook us up, but I'm starting to think that's not a good idea."Anything else, and she won't want to talk to you. You say that, and she'll have to know why.

There is no good way to play this.

Probably not, but I will admit how good looking these girls were, especially one in particular and it was her mom that was the most forward. She pretty much told me to go out and play golf at her country club where the daughter worked (which is like 3 hrs. away) just so I could bump into her and put the moves on her like I didn't know who she was. I can see this mother pushing this thing hard, but granted if the daughter is mildly sane she probably won't stand for it. Although I will note all the moms took pictures of me so I'll say I got a chance.

Get those pics and use them to replace the ones on your iDating profiles, STAT!!!

 

[Woz]

Other thing I wanted your guys' opinions on are last night I attended a paryt hosted by a lawyer and I got like 3 phone numbers from mothers on behalf of their daughters who weren't there. It was incredibly strange as each mother kept coming up to me and telling me all about their daughters and stuff and how I'd make a great bf for them. I was obviously very hesitant, but when they showed me pictures it turns out all the daughters were freakin HOT! So, is there anyway to play this without looking like a moron? The moms have my number - should I just wait for the daughters to call??

The daughters won't call. They'll be too embarrassed to call a number they got from their mother. If you want to pursue this, you'll have to take the initiative.

And say what, "hey your mom, after a few cocktails, thinks I'd make a great boyfriend for you and since I have nothing else lined up on my plate right now and need the assistance of 50 year olds to get hooked up, wanna go out?"

Plus how many girls want their mom to hook them up. I'd write it off.

That's what I'm guessing. Most girls I know hate when their family sets them up. My ex's family did this and she told me she wouldn't have gone out with me because of this, but my good looks and charm won her over.

I'd kill my mom if she did something like that, but luckily my mom is smart enough to know better. I just don't see any way to play this one.

You meet the girl, your ONLY play is to say, "Yeah, your mom wanted to hook us up, but I'm starting to think that's not a good idea."Anything else, and she won't want to talk to you. You say that, and she'll have to know why.

There is no good way to play this.

Probably not, but I will admit how good looking these girls were, especially one in particular and it was her mom that was the most forward. She pretty much told me to go out and play golf at her country club where the daughter worked (which is like 3 hrs. away) just so I could bump into her and put the moves on her like I didn't know who she was. I can see this mother pushing this thing hard, but granted if the daughter is mildly sane she probably won't stand for it. Although I will note all the moms took pictures of me so I'll say I got a chance.

Get those pics and use them to replace the ones on your iDating profiles, STAT!!!

"Hey, mother who wants me to rail her daughter, can I get those pics back so I can find even more chicks online to rail as well?"

 

[Eli2Shockey]

"Hey, mother who wants me to rail her daughter, can I get those pics back so I can find even more chicks online to rail as well?"

Considering you have nothing to lose here, I think you have to try atleast calling one of these girls just to see what happens. Who knows, maybe it will work and that will give you more confidence to try calling the other two. worst case scenario it doesn't and you move on.

 

[Slinger]

I'd call all 3 girls and be like, "Hey your mom is ####### hot. I know I'm 25 years younger and I've never dated a woman older than me, but damnnnn."

Try to be funny about it when you call. The worst they can say is no, but you'll never know if you don't try.

 

[Keys Myaths]

"Hey, mother who wants me to rail her daughter, can I get those pics back so I can find even more chicks online to rail as well?"

Yes, because that's the ONLY thing you can say.

 

[code]

I guess I am generally too optimistic about women (and men, for that matter).

Do all your cats feel the same way?

Look who's stumbled into the iDating thread

 

[Joe T]

I guess I am generally too optimistic about women (and men, for that matter).

Do all your cats feel the same way?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

As of today, my divorce is ***OFFICIAL***.

Nice.5/11/07 was mine. What a glorious day it was.

 

[Disco Stu]

Chick I've never met is bringing me food right now (11pm).

Good start!!Can't wait to hear how this goes.

Update: she just left. Let's just say this went well...

More details

I meant to provide details at the underground today but didn't have time.

OK... finally got to this. Added a pic as well.

 

[cubbyMIH]

The official.......where we stand after 2 weeks of i-

dating............fat chick/latina beauty..............gone. Crazy,

which was the blonde I took to the CWS.........I took her out again

Tuesday, did lunch and a movie (knocked up, funnier than crap).......I

got absolutely no vibe from her the first time, but I thought I'd give

it one more chance..........she was a fairly attractive girl. Round

2.........nothing. Girl has absolutely NO conversation skills. I took

her to an upscale steakhouse, she ordered a ceasar salad and had 2 $10

coupons. Best thing I can say about this girl is I hardly spent

ANYTHING on her in 2 dates. You get what you pay for I guess. That,

and she got me front row seats to the CWS final game. At one point,

during lunch, I was kind of looking at her and she asked what I was

looking at...........I said........"I'm looking at you.........you

know..........2nd date........can I do THAT?" and she tells me she'd

prefer I not. We do the movie, she tells me how wonderful of a time

she had and she really wants to go out again and I'm

like........."you're freaking kidding me?" Absolutely nothing there. I

think she has baggage. 2 dates, no kiss, no snuggle, no nothing. The

girl that's still in the picture is the blind date girl from a couple

of weeks ago this coming Saturday. She's 37, as am I, she has 2 kids,

nearly the EXACT same age as mine, to the month. After a fairly slow

first date she ended up staying the night and being an absolute wild

woman in the sack. Absolute smoking body that she doesn't seem to be

able to show very well except when she's naked. We spent the entire

next week trying to get to know each other..........she called or

texted every day. Made me cookies the Tue after the Saturday stay

over............this week, she stayed both Monday and Tuesday night,

and she's planning on staying at my place all weekend long. Progressed

pretty quickly...........I'm just not sure how much I'm into her. The

sex is great, the body is great...............just not a great

conversationalist.............a lot of little things that irritate me

a little now, I'm sure they'd irritate me a lot if we were in a long

term relationship. She lives in the same town as me, so the

convenience is nice, although our work schedules conflict quite a bit,

and right now, we have opposite weekends off with the kids, so that's

tough too. I'm just afraid she likes me more than I like her.

Definitely the marrying type............thing is I'm more interested

in the dating type right now. I can see it being a 3-4 month thing

until one of us finds something closer to what we're looking for,

which leads to my i-date next week. Another 37 year old from my town,

looks pretty cute, seems to have a lot of things in common with me. I

haven't been sending out any emails or putting any effort into it

since the blind date girl, but if somebody emails me, and I have an

interest, I'll probably continue to maybe at least get to know

them...........which will probably lead eventually to the "exclusive"

conversation with blind date girl. I'll post her

pic....................name is Carly. Not a super stunner, but looks

cute, knows how to dress.

 

[Woz]

Idating update:

Updated pictures on the underground

Cute Emilie = Girl I've been talking to a lot. Definitely like her. Seems like a partier. I'm going to meet her on Saturday and then, if things go well, she's coming up the following weekend for a lake party.

Cocky chick = I like her physically. She's from close. Looking to seal the deal.

Mom = Chick is like 22 with 4 kids! I found myself attracted to her though. She wants to meet me ASAP. She said something about her bikini pic making her looking better than she does so I asked for a full body. She just sent me like 7 nude pictures! How do I proceed from here? I'm almost not interested because it'd be too easy.

ETA: Hotcougar and Stu's newly added chick =

 

[Keys Myaths]

Mom = Chick is like 22 with 4 kids! I found myself attracted to her though. She wants to meet me ASAP. She said something about her bikini pic making her looking better than she does so I asked for a full body. She just sent me like 7 nude pictures! How do I proceed from here? I'm almost not interested because it'd be too easy.

If you don't post these on the underground, I'm going to call you and harass you until you do.Then, I'll never speak to you again.

 

[BassNBrew]

Idating update:Updated pictures on the undergroundCute Emilie = Girl I've been talking to a lot. Definitely like her. Seems like a partier. I'm going to meet her on Saturday and then, if things go well, she's coming up the following weekend for a lake party. Cocky chick = I like her physically. She's from close. Looking to seal the deal. Mom = Chick is like 22 with 4 kids! I found myself attracted to her though. She wants to meet me ASAP. She said something about her bikini pic making her looking better than she does so I asked for a full body. She just sent me like 7 nude pictures! How do I proceed from here? I'm almost not interested because it'd be too easy.ETA: Hotcougar and Stu's newly added chick =

Dang...even Woz is kicking my ###.