***OFFICIAL*** FFA MLB Draft (2 Viewers)

[Giant Wooden Badger]

A big reason for Bonds' OBP was that he's hit in the 3 or 4 spot most of his career.  If he lead off for other power hitters that would be significantly lower.  Henderson got walks because of his eye and his stance... Bonds gets a ton of walks because of his lineup position.

I can't tell you how much I disagree with this.

Speaking only of his last 4 seasons -- Bonds OB% is definitely a product of getting pitched around so much.He obviously has a great batting eye, too (much like Frank Thomas )...BTW, all -- it was I who, way back when, compared Frank Thomas's batting eye (read: patience, nice K/BB ratio) to Bonds's batting eye. No further comparisons between the two were implied. It looked like Larryboy took a lot of heat for making the comparison between both men's overall batting ability, but I think my quote may have been a springboard for that..

That isn't the point. Bonds wasn't/isn't pitched around because he bats 3 or 4 in the lineup. He's pitched around because he's a freak of nature.He'd be intentionally walked with the same frequency as if he was leading off.

 

[Doug B]

Who are we waiting on?

SpartansRules.

Didn't he send someone a list last night?

Yes, I have it...is he up?

Yep:11 161 pumpnick SP Stan Koveleski

11 162 Spock 3B John McGraw

11 163 lastresort SP Sam McDowell

11 164 Capella SP Early Wynn

11 165 Nipsey 3B Jim Thome

11 166 Sammy3469 OF Earl Averill

11 167 Pickles OF Gary Sheffield

11 168 Harrier 3B Bill Joyce

11 169 Doug B C Ernie Lombardi

11 170 bogart 1B Rafael Palmeiro

11 171 Koya 2B Nellie Fox

11 172 funkley OF Larry Walker

11 173 Kraft SP Joe McGinnity

11 174 UCONN SP Jim Kaat

11 175 Spartans on clock

11 176 Larryboy on deck x 2

 

[Capella]

Don't think UCONN is going to be around tonight so I'm going to bed. Will send Capella my list for the morning as usual.

So close every night, and yet so far away...

Hmmm ... looks like it. Capella isn't on right now, though.

just got back..Spartans takes 1B **** Allen

sorry..I get so many of these PMs I lose track of who sent me what.

 

[Doug B]

Wait, Cappy is on.Did Spartans get you a list, too? Nipsey says he has the pick.

 

[Nipsey]

Oops...sorry about that. Spartans selects:

JOSE MOLINA

 

[Doug B]

sorry..I get so many of these PMs I lose track of who sent me what.

Note to all: I'm glad to accept PMs for business-hours picks. I hardly get any

 

[Doug B]

Nipsey says he has the pick.

Nice, Nip.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Oops...sorry about that. Spartans selects:

JOSE MOLINA

a pivotal member of the catching molina brothers.

 

[Capella]

Oops...sorry about that. Spartans selects:

JOSE MOLINA

:rotflmao: oops..Nipsey may be correct.

 

[Bogart]

Oops...sorry about that. Spartans selects:

JOSE MOLINA

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

 

[Nipsey]

Oops...sorry about that. Spartans selects:

JOSE MOLINA

a pivotal member of the catching molina brothers.

It's a decent pick, but I think there's a better Molina out there...

 

[Doug B]

Oops...sorry about that.  Spartans selects:

JOSE MOLINA

a pivotal member of the catching molina brothers.

It's a decent pick, but I think there's a better Molina out there...

This guy?

 

[Nipsey]

Oops...sorry about that.  Spartans selects:

JOSE MOLINA

a pivotal member of the catching molina brothers.

It's a decent pick, but I think there's a better Molina out there...

This guy?

I was thinking a pitcher (Alfred's a catcher ).

 

[Sammy3469]

Oops...sorry about that.  Spartans selects:

JOSE MOLINA

a pivotal member of the catching molina brothers.

It's a decent pick, but I think there's a better Molina out there...

This guy?

I was thinking a pitcher (Alfred's a catcher ).

Shhh don't tell Larry

 

[larry_boy_44]

so... is it my pick?

 

[10993]

Oops...sorry about that. Spartans selects:

JOSE MOLINA

This is a joke, right? Guy's career started in '99

 

[10993]

so... is it my pick?

yes

 

[Nipsey]

Oops...sorry about that.  Spartans selects:

JOSE MOLINA

a pivotal member of the catching molina brothers.

It's a decent pick, but I think there's a better Molina out there...

This guy?

I was thinking a pitcher (Alfred's a catcher ).

Shhh don't tell Larry

Speaking of Larry...what's the hold-up!?!? You had hours to find two guys....

 

[Nipsey]

Oops...sorry about that. Spartans selects:

JOSE MOLINA

This is a joke, right? Guy's career started in '99

Jose was up in '94 for a week...it's legit.

 

[larry_boy_44]

11.16 OF George Van Haltren12.1 RHP Dwight Gooden

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Good to see the coke sniffer getting some love.

 

[10993]

Oops...sorry about that. Spartans selects:

JOSE MOLINA

This is a joke, right? Guy's career started in '99

Jose was up in '94 for a week...it's legit.

Oh, sweet.

 

[10993]

You idiots have Spartans' next pick, too?

 

[Nipsey]

11.16 OF George Van Haltren

That guy's great. 1984 was definitely his peak though.

 

[larry_boy_44]

11.16 OF George Van Haltren

That guy's great. 1984 was definitely his peak though.

:rotflmao: 1884*there, I'll correct if for ya...

 

[Nipsey]

You idiots have Spartans' next pick, too?

Yes. Spartans takes:KEN KAISER

A bit early for an ump, but not a bad pick...

 

[Doug B]

11.16 OF George Van Haltren

That guy's great. 1984 was definitely his peak though.

"I heard you missed us -- we're back!""Gimme somethin' to write on"Oh that P.E. teacher ...

 

[Nipsey]

11.16 OF George Van Haltren

That guy's great. 1984 was definitely his peak though.

:rotflmao: 1884*there, I'll correct if for ya...

I'm just wondering when his brother goes..vastly underrated drummer.

 

[Doug B]

11 161 pumpnick SP Stan Koveleski

11 162 Spock 3B John McGraw

11 163 lastresort SP Sam McDowell

11 164 Capella SP Early Wynn

11 165 Nipsey 3B Jim Thome

11 166 Sammy3469 OF Earl Averill

11 167 Pickles OF Gary Sheffield

11 168 Harrier 3B Bill Joyce

11 169 Doug B C Ernie Lombardi

11 170 bogart 1B Rafael Palmeiro

11 171 Koya 2B Nellie Fox

11 172 funkley OF Larry Walker

11 173 Kraft SP Joe McGinnity

11 174 UCONN SP Jim Kaat

11 175 Spartans 1B **** Allen

11 176 Larryboy OF George Van Haltren

12 177 Larryboy SP Dwight Gooden

12 178 Spartans on clock

12 179 UCONN (Doug B has his pick)

12 180 Kraft in the hole

12 181 funkley

12 182 Koya

12 183 bogart

12 184 Doug B

12 185 Harrier

12 186 Pickles

12 187 Sammy3469

12 188 Nipsey

12 189 Capella

12 190 lastresort

12 191 Spock

12 192 pumpnick

 

[Funkley]

11.16 OF George Van Haltren

That guy's great. 1984 was definitely his peak though.

:rotflmao: 1884*there, I'll correct if for ya...

I'm just wondering when his brother goes..vastly underrated drummer.

Along with Loverboy he brought the head band back to rock-n-roll.George Van Haltren

 

[Spartans Rule]

Well my next pick was going to be C Joe Torre, but seeing as how I was so fortunate as to land Molina...

 

[10993]

We can make a nice little run here, the next 6 or 7 people are here if Doug has UCONN's pickActually, we should make it all the way to lastresort

 

[Koya]

Well my next pick was going to be C Joe Torre, but seeing as how I was so fortunate as to land Molina...

funky cold molina

 

[larry_boy_44]

11.16George Van HaltrenBats: L Throws: LPlayed: 1887-1903Lived: 1866-1945Played For: Chicago White Stockings (1887-1889), Brooklyn Ward's Wonders (1890), Baltimore Orioles (1891-1892), Pittsburgh Pirates (1892-1893), New York Giants (1894-1903)Pitching stats: 1887 21 CHC NL 11 7 20 18 18 1 1 1 161.0 177 113 69 7 66 76 16 9 722 3.86 4.45 115 1888 22 CHC NL 13 13 30 24 24 4 6 1 245.7 263 149 96 15 60 139 13 21 1057 3.52 3.00 85 1890 24 BWW PL 15 10 28 25 23 0 3 2 223.0 272 190 106 8 89 48 19 11 1064 4.28 4.44 104Best Years: 1896 30 NYG NL 133 562 136 197 18 21 5 74 39 55 36 .351 .410 .484 272 4 2 1895 29 NYG NL 131 521 113 177 23 19 8 103 32 57 29 .340 .408 .503 262 6 3 1893 27 PIT NL 124 529 129 179 14 11 3 79 37 75 25 .338 .422 .423 224 2 1894 28 NYG NL 137 519 109 172 22 4 7 104 43 55 22 .331 .400 .430 223 4 1890 24 BWW PL 92 376 84 126 8 9 5 54 35 41 23 .335 .405 .444 167 3 Awards/Accompishments:Not in the Hall of Fame.316/.365/.4172532 hits583 Stolen Bases69 Home Runs (that's a lot back then)39-30 record as a pitcherGreat player, could possibly go into the #3 spot and give me 4 guys leading off with +.300/+.400 BA/OB% leading off my lineup, or I might put him in the backend of the lineup just 'cuz lol...either way... I like this pick a lot...

 

[Nipsey]

either way... I like this pick a lot...

 

[Koya]

Lets get this goin. I have 20 min before I gotta run.. if I need I can send my list but hopefully we can get these quick.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

either way... I like this pick a lot...

 

[Nipsey]

either way... I like this pick a lot...

 

[Mr. Pickles]

either way... I like this pick a lot...

 

[Nipsey]

either way... I like this pick a lot...

 

[Funkley]

 

[Nipsey]

 

[10993]

Lets get this goin. I have 20 min before I gotta run.. if I need I can send my list but hopefully we can get these quick.

Does Doug B have UCONN's pick?

 

[Funkley]

 

[Nipsey]

Lets get this goin. I have 20 min before I gotta run.. if I need I can send my list but hopefully we can get these quick.

Does Doug B have UCONN's pick?

I have UCONN's pick...is he up?

 

[Spartans Rule]

My last two picks:1B **** Allen - this is why you wait on first basemen. 7-time all-star, led league in triples once, HRs twice, OBP twice, slugging 3 times, OPS 4 times, won the 1972 AL MVP, and ranks 20th all-time in Adjusted OPSC Joe Torre - he should resonate with voters since he's the Yankee manager, but that's not why I took him. 9-time all-star, 1971 NL MVP, won a gold glove behind the plate. Has very solid hitting stats for a catcher. Great all-around player and class act. One of the last few catchers I would have been happy with.

 

[Nipsey]

C Joe Torre - he should resonate with voters since he's the Yankee manager, but that's not why I took him.

 

[larry_boy_44]

12.1Dwight GoodenThrows: R Bats: Rplayed: 1984-1994, 1996-2000lived: 1964-currentplayed for: New York Mets (1984-1994), New York Yankees (1996-1997, 2000), Cleveland Indians (1997, 1998), Houston Astros (2000), Tampa Bay Devil Rays (2000)Best years: 1985 20 NYM NL 24 4 35 35 16 8 0 0 276.7 198 51 47 13 69 268 2 6 1065 1.53 3.45 226 1984 19 NYM NL 17 9 31 31 7 3 0 0 218.0 161 72 63 7 73 276 2 3 879 2.60 3.56 137 1986 21 NYM NL 17 6 33 33 12 2 0 0 250.0 197 92 79 17 80 200 4 4 1020 2.84 3.54 124 1987 22 NYM NL 15 7 25 25 7 3 0 0 179.7 162 68 64 11 53 148 2 1 730 3.21 3.80 119 1998 33 CLE AL 8 6 23 23 0 0 0 0 134.0 135 59 56 13 51 83 9 3 580 3.76 4.80 127Awards/Accomplishments:Rookie of the Year (1984)1 Time Cy Young Award Winner (1985)Top Ten Cy Young Award 4 other times (1984, 196, 1987, 1990)1 time Triple Crown Winner (1985)top 10 MVP 1 time (1985)4 time All Star (1984-1986, 1988)Led League in ERA 1 time (1985)Top Five ERA 4 other times (1984, 1986, 1987)Led League in Wins 1 time (1985)Top Five Wins 5 other times (1984, 1986-1988, 1990)Led League in Ks twice (1984, 1985)Led League in Walks & Hits/9I, Hits/9I, K/9I, Ks, 2nd in ERA, 2nd in Cy Young Voting, 4th in Shutouts, 9th in Complete Games, 2nd in Adjusted ERA, 3rd in Wins all while being a Rookie and the Youngest Player in MLB in 1984 (also his 3rd best season according to WIS)He was a great player, unfortunately he let drugs get in the way of that... He would be in the hall if he didn't stop playing due to drugs, and, quite frankly, drugs are the only reason he is not in the hall today...He was hte best in the league in '84 and '85... you could argue he was the best in '86-'88 and '90, too... all great seasons...It is really unfortunate to see a guy fall like he did, but when he played, he was truly an all-time great, and, if it wasn't for the drugs, he easily would have been a pick in the first 3-5 rounds of this draft...

 

[Politician Spock]

Since everyone else seems to be posting batting averages, here goes (also with OBP and SB numbers):

Tony Gwynn .338 .388 (319 SB)

Frankie Frisch .316 .369 (229 career sac bunts, 419 SB)

John McGraw .334 .466 (436 SB)

Joe Kelley .317 .402 (443 SB)

Paul Waner .333. 404

Cap Anson .333 .393 (276 SB)

Ted Simmons .285 .348

 

[Bogart]

C Joe Torre - he should resonate with voters since he's the Yankee manager, but that's not why I took him. 9-time all-star, 1971 NL MVP, won a gold glove behind the plate. Has very solid hitting stats for a catcher. Great all-around player and class act. One of the last few catchers I would have been happy with.

extremely underated as a player. Good value pick.