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***OFFICIAL*** FFA MLB Draft (3 Viewers)

Spot Starter/RP Jack Pfiester
That's a pretty obscure pick. Who's that?
Oh, just this guy that used to pitch for the Cubbies.
Yeah, what were his stats like?
Well, his ERA in his first five years was: 1.51, 1.15, 2.00, 2.43, 1.80And his WHIP for his first five years was: .94, .98, 1.09, 1.16, 1.08
Wow. And he's your spot starter in the 5 slot, probably to be used as a relief pitcher?
Yup. Pitched 208 innings with a 1.15 ERA and 0.98 WHIP that year, too. That's a lot of relief.
He started 128 of 149 games. I don't call that relief.
No, relief for me.
and :own3d: in the polls.
 
By the way, who is up? This is still a draft to build the best team.  After the draft we will:(1)  All Proclaim we have the best team(2)  All Proclaim victory in all sims for personality type A (the type that say the will win no matter what)      All proclaim certain doom in all or certain sims for personality B (the type that, even when they know their team rules, goes Lou Holtz on everyone declaring they have no chance.  Probably someone with no deadballers)(3)  Try to WIS Sim.      Try this other sim      FFA vote      Possible Baseball Board voteNow, lets ####### draft.
:goodposting: I came to peace with this awhile ago.I don't care if our sim can actually resurrect the dead and play games, or if the sim is no better than hitting marbles with baseball cards. Either way, its supposed to be secondary, and no matter how accurate or inaccurate it is someone will ##### that they got screwed over. Such is life.Let's just pick some players that we think are good.
:goodposting:Some people are taking this far too seriously. I'm almost at the point where I'm ready to scrap the sim altogether.
:revolt:haha. Heck, I will do more sims, other sims. The states intent of the draft was to get the best players. We did the sim as some objective way to judge. if the objective measure we thought was best is f'd up, then maybe there are better ones out there. Im game for anything. I committed to this sim, so work or not Im in. But I am open to other ways to judge our teams. People do need to relax a little.. it is a freaking on line draft.
:goodposting: How much money do you get for winning this thing again?
 
So now mrharrier is sim fishing. Great. We've created a monster.
Don't kid yourself. People have been sim fishing for 6 rounds. John McGraw? In the HOF only has a manager, only had a few good years. Hugh Jennings? Bill Joyce? Frank Thomas? Larry Walker? The list goes on for a while...Lots of pitchers on it, too.But I'm just looking to build the best team possible. I don't see how those stats are going to hurt me in the FFA. That was 5 years of excellence, not 3.
Well, his ERA in his first five years was: 1.51, 1.15, 2.00, 2.43, 1.80And his WHIP for his first five years was: .94, .98, 1.09, 1.16, 1.08
Hard to argue with a guy who had five years of excellence as being a flash in the pan.
 
Spot Starter/RP Jack Pfiester
Only 1067 1/3 career innings.Tim Keefe can do that in one season.
John Clarkson almost did:1985, 901 IP, 1.85 ERA, .95 WHIP
can i pencil him in for your next pick?
Like I said, I won't be picking the pre-1900 guys, and I'm not going to change what I think is right just out of spite.How's Nichols working out for you?

 
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Spot Starter/RP Jack Pfiester
Only 1067 1/3 career innings.Tim Keefe can do that in one season.
John Clarkson almost did:1985, 901 IP, 1.85 ERA, .95 WHIP
can i pencil him in for your next pick?
Like I said, I won't be picking the pre-1900 guys, and I'm not going to change what I think is right just out of spite.How's Nichols working out for you?
i see. but you take a "reliever" who pitched just beyond 1900? i want to be clear.
 
So now mrharrier is sim fishing. Great. We've created a monster.
Don't kid yourself. People have been sim fishing for 6 rounds. John McGraw? In the HOF only has a manager, only had a few good years.
:confused: John McGraw has more career runs scored than Jack Pfiester has innings pitched! :eek: Don't even try to pull me down to your level!
 
Spot Starter/RP Jack Pfiester
Only 1067 1/3 career innings.Tim Keefe can do that in one season.
John Clarkson almost did:1985, 901 IP, 1.85 ERA, .95 WHIP
can i pencil him in for your next pick?
Like I said, I won't be picking the pre-1900 guys, and I'm not going to change what I think is right just out of spite.How's Nichols working out for you?
Nichols is fine, thanks.. but he's also a top pitcher regardless of era. This isn't disputed.
 
Spot Starter/RP Jack Pfiester
Only 1067 1/3 career innings.Tim Keefe can do that in one season.
John Clarkson almost did:1985, 901 IP, 1.85 ERA, .95 WHIP
1985???hmm..guess that doesn't count as a grammar error..just a factual error, which is good, because, you know, grammar errors piss you off so much.

:own3d:

 
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Spot Starter/RP Jack Pfiester
Career basically equivalent to Roy Halladay or Barry Zito, presuming they never throw another pitch.71 wins = Britt Burns + 1
Thanks, Oso. Guess those guys pretty much suck, too.
No (well, Burns was mediocre), they don't suck, and neither did Pfiester. Just an extremely short career. Unless he died young or something, or missed time due to a war or discrimination, that's an important point in an all-time draft.
 
Spot Starter/RP Jack Pfiester
Only 1067 1/3 career innings.Tim Keefe can do that in one season.
John Clarkson almost did:1985, 901 IP, 1.85 ERA, .95 WHIP
can i pencil him in for your next pick?
Like I said, I won't be picking the pre-1900 guys, and I'm not going to change what I think is right just out of spite.How's Nichols working out for you?
i see. but you take a "reliever" who pitched just beyond 1900? i want to be clear.
he's a starter. I'm just going to be using him as a reliever. I wasn't trying to say he was one during his career.And yeah, I have held to 1900 as the dividing line. Pfiester pitched from 1906-1911, which is pretty far past that line, and right in line with Walter Johnson (just after), Christy Mathewson, and all those guys.

 
Spot Starter/RP Jack Pfiester
Only 1067 1/3 career innings.Tim Keefe can do that in one season.
John Clarkson almost did:1985, 901 IP, 1.85 ERA, .95 WHIP
1985???hmm..guess that doesn't count as a grammar error..just a factual error, which is good, because, you know, grammar errors piss you off so much.

:own3d:
No, there's just a difference between an error in grammar and a typo. See, when I typed 1985, I meant to type 1885. But when you type something like "you're argument," you don't know that you're typing something wrong. I'd attribute it to your education, but there might be other underlying causes.
 
Things i've learned following this thread...

Who Bill Joyce is

That Nipsey can be funny (and he can draw)
That it's possible to find a less satisfying evaluative method than a FFA Poll
Hurley is not that guy's real name
 
So now mrharrier is sim fishing. Great. We've created a monster.
Don't kid yourself. People have been sim fishing for 6 rounds. John McGraw? In the HOF only has a manager, only had a few good years.
:confused: John McGraw has more career runs scored than Jack Pfiester has innings pitched! :eek: Don't even try to pull me down to your level!
McGraw played in 7 full seasons before going part time to manage. There is no difference whatsoever.McGrawI should note, he did play in lots of mini-partial season, if you want to count those.
 
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So now mrharrier is sim fishing. Great. We've created a monster.
Don't kid yourself. People have been sim fishing for 6 rounds. John McGraw? In the HOF only has a manager, only had a few good years.
:confused: John McGraw has more career runs scored than Jack Pfiester has innings pitched! :eek: Don't even try to pull me down to your level!
McGraw played in 7 full seasons before going part time to manage. There is no difference whatsoever.McGraw
I pulled myself down there with Joyce, too--I don't think anyone needs to try to kid themselves about these things.
 
Spot Starter/RP Jack Pfiester
Only 1067 1/3 career innings.Tim Keefe can do that in one season.
John Clarkson almost did:1985, 901 IP, 1.85 ERA, .95 WHIP
1985???hmm..guess that doesn't count as a grammar error..just a factual error, which is good, because, you know, grammar errors piss you off so much.

:own3d:
No, there's just a difference between an error in grammar and a typo. See, when I typed 1985, I meant to type 1885. But when you type something like "you're argument," you don't know that you're typing something wrong. I'd attribute it to your education, but there might be other underlying causes.
riiiight..because in a rush, while at work, it's too hard to imagine that I may not have typed a word or two wrong. I may have meant one thing, but typed another. Completely different than a factual error. :mellow:

I'll thank you for finding my two grammar errors in the 15,000 words I've typed in this thread. Speaking of educations, knowing nothing more about you other than what I've sadly had to witness in this thread, I'll assume I have more of it.

 
So now mrharrier is sim fishing.  Great.  We've created a monster.
Don't kid yourself. People have been sim fishing for 6 rounds. John McGraw? In the HOF only has a manager, only had a few good years.
:confused: John McGraw has more career runs scored than Jack Pfiester has innings pitched! :eek: Don't even try to pull me down to your level!
McGraw played in 7 full seasons before going part time to manage. There is no difference whatsoever.McGraw
McGraw ranks 53rd in career stolen bases. Does Pfeister crack to top 1000 in anything?
 
McGraw played in 7 full seasons before going part time to manage. There is no difference whatsoever.
man, what was the deal back then? must have been more $ in managing than actually playing.
dude, wasnt it like 1372. Who knows what it was like back then.
 
Speaking of educations, knowing nothing more about you other than what I've sadly had to witness in this thread, I'll assume I have more of it.
Speaking of educations, you'll have to assume you have more of it?Did you hear that on the internets?I wonder if I can submit that here. You're not a relative of his, are you?
 
So now mrharrier is sim fishing. Great. We've created a monster.
Don't kid yourself. People have been sim fishing for 6 rounds. John McGraw? In the HOF only has a manager, only had a few good years.
:confused: John McGraw has more career runs scored than Jack Pfiester has innings pitched! :eek: Don't even try to pull me down to your level!
McGraw played in 7 full seasons before going part time to manage. There is no difference whatsoever.McGraw
McGraw ranks 53rd in career stolen bases. Does Pfeister crack to top 1000 in anything?
Well, he's #3 All-Time ERA, so there is that. Also #39 Adjusted ERA+.Don't get your panties in a bundle. I picked Bill Joyce, that's no better than McGraw.
 
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"If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling, foxy boxing, and such and such" - Homer. (are we done arguing yet?)

 
Speaking of educations, knowing nothing more about you other than what I've sadly had to witness in this thread, I'll assume I have more of it.
Speaking of educations, you'll have to assume you have more of it?Did you hear that on the internets?I wonder if I can submit that here. You're not a relative of his, are you?
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :own3d:
 
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So now mrharrier is sim fishing.  Great.  We've created a monster.
Don't kid yourself. People have been sim fishing for 6 rounds. John McGraw? In the HOF only has a manager, only had a few good years.
:confused: John McGraw has more career runs scored than Jack Pfiester has innings pitched! :eek: Don't even try to pull me down to your level!
McGraw played in 7 full seasons before going part time to manage. There is no difference whatsoever.McGraw
McGraw ranks 53rd in career stolen bases. Does Pfeister crack to top 1000 in anything?
Well, he's #3 All-Time ERA, so there is that.Don't get your panties in a bundle. I picked Bill Joyce, that's no better than McGraw.
I had never even heard of Joyce. How did you find him? I found McGraw because I looked at every player who stole 400 career SB or more because I'm building my team around running.
 
Speaking of educations, knowing nothing more about you other than what I've sadly had to witness in this thread, I'll assume I have more of it.
Speaking of educations, you'll have to assume you have more of it?Did you hear that on the internets?I wonder if I can submit that here. You're not a relative of his, are you?
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :own3d:
:mellow: well, if nobody else is going to laugh at it, you might as well. :crazy:
 
I had never even heard of Joyce. How did you find him? I found McGraw because I looked at every player who stole 400 career SB or more because I'm building my team around running.
Looking at career OB%
 
McGraw played in 7 full seasons before going part time to manage.  There is no difference whatsoever.
man, what was the deal back then? must have been more $ in managing than actually playing.
McGraw left the Cardinals in 1901 to join up with the newly-formed AL, managing his old team, the Orioles.McGraw played 69 games at 3B that year, and put up an OPS of 995, with an OB% of 508. :eek: So, why does Manager McGraw bench Player McGraw in favor of some guy named Jack Dunn and his 596 OPS?Interesting PS: the next season, 1902, McGraw jumped ship back to the NL, to the NY Giants, taking about half of the Orioles team with him. Some guy named Billy Lauder (OPS = 540) played 3B. McGraw was only 29 then, so it wasn't like he was washed up. Strange.
 
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"Hey Harrier, good luck in the "FFA Love/Sex Baseball First Names Draft""Thanks.""Who do you have again?""Cupid. Cupid Childs.""Aww. That's sweet.""Who you playing?""Nipsey.""Who's he got?""Orel.""Ouch." :own3d:

 
"Hey Harrier, good luck in the "FFA Love/Sex Baseball First Names Draft""Thanks.""Who do you have again?""Cupid. Cupid Childs.""Aww. That's sweet.""Who you playing?""Nipsey.""Who's he got?""Orel.""Ouch." :own3d:
:rotflmao:
 
"Hey, good luck in the "FFA guys that are the spitting images of Jesus""Thanks.""Who do you have again?""Johnny Damon.""Nice, he really let that hair grow.""Who you playing?""Nipsey.""Who's he got?""Jesus.""Ouch."

 

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