***OFFICIAL*** FFA MLB Draft (2 Viewers)

[Funkley]

Commisioner-Elect Nipsey Et Al:

There comes a time in every man’s life when he feels its appropriate to move on to the next level.  Therefore, it’s with heartfelt joy that I’d like to announce my application to the All Time Draft II.  I realize that this is a bold undertaking that will require every resource at my disposal.  Some people (SLBD) have already succumbed to the pressure, but I vow not to let it keep me down.

I ask you to look at my track record of pithy comments and expeditious hijacker drafts when considering my application.  You also have my assurance of the following:

I will never report anyone to a mod.  (in fact I will never do that ever in any forum or thread)

I will never draft the likes of Paul Quantrill, Bobby Bo or the esteemed Mr. Timothy Wakefield.

I will always mock simfishers, duplicate drafters, deadball hurler drafters and the like.

And finally I promise to push the boundaries of inappropriate links to material like the white man pushes crack in Harlem. 

Gentlemen, I thank you for your time and may LB’s Lord bless you and keep you.

Sincerely,

Hijacker #1 (TRE)

Rib Lover Extraordinaire

Sounds good. Question for you. You're in a vintage NBA draft and it's early, say the 3rd round. The thought of drafting a member of the Phoenix Suns crosses your mind. What is the name of that player?

That's a great question Funkley, and I'm glad you asked it.While rampaging through the West the Suns have been called many things. Great. Unstoppable. Juggernaut. So it is understandable when people confuse a team's greatness with individual greatness.

However, at this time, there are not any Suns players that I would consider drafting in a vintage NBA draft. This question can be raised again in 15-20 years and I may change my vote considering the performance of a few players over recent years has been exceptional.

Also, with regards to Shawn Marion, I'm deeply disturbed by any NBA player who doesn't raise the ball above chin level when he shoots a jumpshot.

In.Correct answer was: "Not Shawn Marion".

 

[Doug B]

Interesting read on WIS.com's MLB Sim forum.A newbie asks for advice on getting his team assembled. On reading this thread, I am beginning to get some insight about the "quality" of WIS's sim engine. There seem to be a zillion statistical quirks that longtime WIS players have to pick up to make competitive teams. Selected quotes:

1) "And make sure your pitchers have low HR/9 stats. For me, anything over .5 in a homer friendly park is too high."

2) "If you're going to go with a four-man starting rotation, you can get by with just 200IP per starter. Using pitchers with 289 and 253 innings pitched in a four-man rotation is a waste of money . . . take (Bob) Gibson, for example. You can get a pitcher like Tommy Delacruz with the same WHIP and 201 innings pitched for 6.3 million dollars. ... I'd use that money to upgrade from LeClaire to a stud like Rheal Cormier '03 or Piniero '01 ..."

3) "Starting pitchers under 1.20 WHIP, OAV under .220 is my suggestion.Relieve pitchers under 1.00 WHIP, OAV under .180; and closer under 0.80 WHIP.You need stoppers in the bullpen. My advice for you: Some players simply UNDERPERFORM, batting under the Mendoza Line while they worth 6M or pitching like they're worth 3 million less, and you don't see signs of improvement even after 30 games."

4) "I'd replace Hoffman with Joel Piniero '01. Saves cost a lot of money, but they don't mean anything in the sim. A real-life setup man, if used in a relief role in the SIM, will get just as many saves as a real-life closer. But real-life saves cost money, so I would sign Piniero '01 in Hoffman's place, which will give you more IP and lower OAV and WHIP, and use the $1 million that would save you to upgrade Brusstar to somebody more bad-###, like Cormier '01."

5) "For a good closer, you don't need to spend 4M on '00 Hoffman. Try out '18 Jake Northrop, '67 Cisco Carlos, '03 Rafael Soriano or '58 Barry Latman. They're cheap, good for their buck (no guarantees but usually do well for most owners). Just set them to 15 pitches and "Use only in save situaion." You can free another 2M for a position upgrade OR pitching upgrade."

Interesting how Bob Gibson is a waste of money, while a no-name like Tommy Delacruz is solid. Ditto Trevor Hoffman compared to Cisco Carlos or Barry Latman (who?). .

 

[Bogart]

Should I read the NBA Draft thread? I feel like I am missing out on gold.

 

[UCONN]

Should I read the NBA Draft thread? I feel like I am missing out on gold.

Everything was going great. Koya ####ed it up. Larry Boy....well, the mods have told me I can't say the things that need to be said to describe Larry Boy.

 

[Doug B]

Oh yeah ... I also like how Rheal Cormier and Joel Piniero are considered "studs" to WIS vets.

 

[Funkley]

Should I read the NBA Draft thread? I feel like I am missing out on gold.

A must read for any participant in this draft.

 

[Bogart]

Interesting read on WIS.com's MLB Sim forum.

A newbie asks for advice on getting his team assembled. On reading this thread, I am beginning to get some insight about the "quality" of WIS's sim engine. There seem to be a zillion statistical quirks that longtime WIS players have to pick up to make competitive teams. Selected quotes:

1) "And make sure your pitchers have low HR/9 stats. For me, anything over .5 in a homer friendly park is too high."

2) "If you're going to go with a four-man starting rotation, you can get by with just 200IP per starter. Using pitchers with 289 and 253 innings pitched in a four-man rotation is a waste of money . . . take (Bob) Gibson, for example. You can get a pitcher like Tommy Delacruz with the same WHIP and 201 innings pitched for 6.3 million dollars. ... I'd use that money to upgrade from LeClaire to a stud like Rheal Cormier '03 or Piniero '01 ..."

3) "Starting pitchers under 1.20 WHIP, OAV under .220 is my suggestion.

Relieve pitchers under 1.00 WHIP, OAV under .180; and closer under 0.80 WHIP.

You need stoppers in the bullpen.

My advice for you: Some players simply UNDERPERFORM, batting under the Mendoza Line while they worth 6M or pitching like they're worth 3 million less, and you don't see signs of improvement even after 30 games."

4) "I'd replace Hoffman with Joel Piniero '01. Saves cost a lot of money, but they don't mean anything in the sim. A real-life setup man, if used in a relief role in the SIM, will get just as many saves as a real-life closer. But real-life saves cost money, so I would sign Piniero '01 in Hoffman's place, which will give you more IP and lower OAV and WHIP, and use the $1 million that would save you to upgrade Brusstar to somebody more bad-###, like Cormier '01."

5) "For a good closer, you don't need to spend 4M on '00 Hoffman. Try out '18 Jake Northrop, '67 Cisco Carlos, '03 Rafael Soriano or '58 Barry Latman. They're cheap, good for their buck (no guarantees but usually do well for most owners). Just set them to 15 pitches and "Use only in save situaion." You can free another 2M for a position upgrade OR pitching upgrade."

Interesting how Bob Gibson is a waste of money, while a no-name like Tommy Delacruz is solid. Ditto Trevor Hoffman compared to Cisco Carlos or Barry Latman (who?).

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[UCONN]

Glad to see Koya spit on the history of basketball. Really, it's pathetic. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[Kraft...]

I think any FFA vote should be postponed until season II when we have a full 24 team league(free or cheaters).

Why? no reason we cant vote on the teams that we have. Again, the FFA and other voting places (baseball forums) would be as good a gauge as wis.

tainted

 

[Kraft...]

Interesting how Bob Gibson is a waste of money, while a no-name like Tommy Delacruz is solid. Ditto Trevor Hoffman compared to Cisco Carlos or Barry Latman (who?).

Tell me about it, Gibson has been getting knocked around big time 5+ ERA currently I believe. :(

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

We have discussed the seasons issue before.  Shoot, I brought it up from the day the discussion of 3rd seasons was mentioned.  But alas, no one listened.

In Mize's case, he actually has what should be a good year.  The ONLY year in Major League history that a player hit 50 HRs w/ less than 50 K's - plus he hit over .300 that year.

Either way, the batting doesnt bother me. I know great pitching should beat great hitting and the batter has less control, and will have streaks.

Pitchers though should not fluctuate this much.  It might simply be that the metrics of some pitchers do not demonstrate their true ability.  Maybe Grove for example, played on enough good A's teams that although he has the 2nd best ever adjusted ERA, he could take some chances with leads, so his OAV and WHIP may not be as low as if he had to pitch shutouts every game.

I am guessing here because I know this is rooted in metrics... I just cant quite understand how (especially since El Sid has great metrics and = gasoline on a fire)

at least someone undrstood what I was saying...

I'm here, Larry, I'm right here.

 

[Koya]

I think any FFA vote should be postponed until season II when we have a full 24 team league(free or cheaters).

Why? no reason we cant vote on the teams that we have. Again, the FFA and other voting places (baseball forums) would be as good a gauge as wis.

tainted

exactly.

 

[Koya]

Interesting how Bob Gibson is a waste of money, while a no-name like Tommy Delacruz is solid. Ditto Trevor Hoffman compared to Cisco Carlos or Barry Latman (who?).

Tell me about it, Gibson has been getting knocked around big time 5+ ERA currently I believe. :(

Ok, so Lefty Grove, Bob Gibson and Nolan Ryan = Crap.Paul Quantrill = God.

Makes sense to me.

 

[Koya]

UCONN - I see tommyboy agrees with you.Case closed.

 

[Politician Spock]

Interesting read on WIS.com's MLB Sim forum.

A newbie asks for advice on getting his team assembled. On reading this thread, I am beginning to get some insight about the "quality" of WIS's sim engine. There seem to be a zillion statistical quirks that longtime WIS players have to pick up to make competitive teams. Selected quotes:

1) "And make sure your pitchers have low HR/9 stats. For me, anything over .5 in a homer friendly park is too high."

2) "If you're going to go with a four-man starting rotation, you can get by with just 200IP per starter.  Using pitchers with 289 and 253 innings pitched in a four-man rotation is a waste of money . . . take (Bob) Gibson, for example.  You can get a pitcher like Tommy Delacruz with the same WHIP and 201 innings pitched for 6.3 million dollars.  ...  I'd use that money to upgrade from LeClaire to a stud like Rheal Cormier '03 or Piniero '01 ..."

3) "Starting pitchers under 1.20 WHIP, OAV under .220 is my suggestion.

Relieve pitchers under 1.00 WHIP, OAV under .180; and closer under 0.80 WHIP.

You need stoppers in the bullpen.

My advice for you: Some players simply UNDERPERFORM, batting under the Mendoza Line while they worth 6M or pitching like they're worth 3 million less, and you don't see signs of improvement even after 30 games."

4) "I'd replace Hoffman with Joel Piniero '01.  Saves cost a lot of money, but they don't mean anything in the sim.  A real-life setup man, if used in a relief role in the SIM, will get just as many saves as a real-life closer.  But real-life saves cost money, so I would sign Piniero '01 in Hoffman's place, which will give you more IP and lower OAV and WHIP, and use the $1 million that would save you to upgrade Brusstar to somebody more bad-###, like Cormier '01."

5) "For a good closer, you don't need to spend 4M on '00 Hoffman. Try out '18 Jake Northrop, '67 Cisco Carlos, '03 Rafael Soriano or '58 Barry Latman. They're cheap, good for their buck (no guarantees but usually do well for most owners). Just set them to 15 pitches and "Use only in save situaion." You can free another 2M for a position upgrade OR pitching upgrade."

Interesting how Bob Gibson is a waste of money, while a no-name like Tommy Delacruz is solid. Ditto Trevor Hoffman compared to Cisco Carlos or Barry Latman (who?).

.

In other words, All Time teams SUCK in WIS simulations.

 

[UCONN]

UCONN - I see tommyboy agrees with you.

Case closed.

As a former basketball player your actions are dispicable to me. I'm ashamed. When similar things happen in the baseball draft it bothers me (being America's past time and all) but not to the same degree. Honestly, you cheapened our sport. I hate you for that. Forgiveness will not happen.

 

[Koya]

UCONN - I see tommyboy agrees with you.

Case closed.

As a former basketball player your actions are dispicable to me. I'm ashamed. When similar things happen in the baseball draft it bothers me (being America's past time and all) but not to the same degree. Honestly, you cheapened our sport. I hate you for that. Forgiveness will not happen.

Nipsey? That you?(good impression I must say!)

 

[larry_boy_44]

If you wanna know why Larry's team is winning (other than using the wrong years), look where he ranks in errors. Stone hands Frank Thomas and company are on pace to commit only 67 errors all season.

One of many critical flaws of wis. When doing a draft FOR wis, you can accept that. But it sucks as a representation of actual reality. I mean, who would you want:

Johnny Mize and Lefty Grove

Frank Thomas and Paul Quantrill.

In this sim, the latter by a LONG shot. Oh, thats realistic.

quite honestly...the biggest issue isn't the sim's programming, its the years that are being used...

The year Thomas is using could be better than the year Mize is using...

Quantrill might have wrong year (still... I'm trying guys), but that year, other than innings, could be better than the year you have Grove with...

See, we aren't talking "greatest players" in this... we're talking "Greatest seasons" and really its third seasons as well...

The next time we do this, we need to have some sort of minimum level of skill/ability... some stat threshold...

and then we get to use ANY year that that player played...

although no one is listening, maybe someone reads this so it has a chance of making try #2 at this a little better than try #1... and that'll be hard to do...

Go away.

now your jealous 'cuz I have a better way of running it than you? *shakes head* I'm sorry I have to be so good at everything, Harrier... :rotflmao:

 

[Doug B]

I think some of it is whoever it is has to be the best in that year (I'm glad no one knew that before doing it)

I think this is one of the reasons Grimes is doing so well. In 1920 he had the best OAV.

After further perusing of the WIS forum, I've found that this is exactly right.Stats are normalized against MLB averages (not NL /AL averages) for a given year. The further someone is away from the average in their year, the better (or worse) they'll be.

 

[ScottNorwood]

You guys are all jealous of my team and it's pathetic. I mean, I'm obviously smarter than all of you so why not just admit it. lolAlso Funkley is an old man and wears depends because if he did not he would poop his pants.If you guys do another draft with out me I will post my picks anyway just so you can see how to draft an actual good team. lol

Interesting.

 

[UCONN]

Please don't take away from the benifits of the ignore feature...

 

[Koya]

I think some of it is whoever it is has to be the best in that year (I'm glad no one knew that before doing it)

I think this is one of the reasons Grimes is doing so well.  In 1920 he had the best OAV. 

After further perusing of the WIS forum, I've found that this is exactly right.Stats are normalized against MLB averages (not NL /AL averages) for a given year. The further someone is away from the average in their year, the better (or worse) they'll be.

WHOOOAAAA.....So they go through ALL the effort of year by year normalization, but a pitcher who has to face DH's every night is compared to pitchers who never saw a DH in their life?

Likewise, in a year where the NL is very low scoring but the AL is high scoring, players are compared to each other, not just in league?

 

[larry_boy_44]

Interesting read on WIS.com's MLB Sim forum.

A newbie asks for advice on getting his team assembled. On reading this thread, I am beginning to get some insight about the "quality" of WIS's sim engine. There seem to be a zillion statistical quirks that longtime WIS players have to pick up to make competitive teams. Selected quotes:

1) "And make sure your pitchers have low HR/9 stats. For me, anything over .5 in a homer friendly park is too high."

2) "If you're going to go with a four-man starting rotation, you can get by with just 200IP per starter.  Using pitchers with 289 and 253 innings pitched in a four-man rotation is a waste of money . . . take (Bob) Gibson, for example.  You can get a pitcher like Tommy Delacruz with the same WHIP and 201 innings pitched for 6.3 million dollars.  ...  I'd use that money to upgrade from LeClaire to a stud like Rheal Cormier '03 or Piniero '01 ..."

3) "Starting pitchers under 1.20 WHIP, OAV under .220 is my suggestion.

Relieve pitchers under 1.00 WHIP, OAV under .180; and closer under 0.80 WHIP.

You need stoppers in the bullpen.

My advice for you: Some players simply UNDERPERFORM, batting under the Mendoza Line while they worth 6M or pitching like they're worth 3 million less, and you don't see signs of improvement even after 30 games."

4) "I'd replace Hoffman with Joel Piniero '01.  Saves cost a lot of money, but they don't mean anything in the sim.  A real-life setup man, if used in a relief role in the SIM, will get just as many saves as a real-life closer.  But real-life saves cost money, so I would sign Piniero '01 in Hoffman's place, which will give you more IP and lower OAV and WHIP, and use the $1 million that would save you to upgrade Brusstar to somebody more bad-###, like Cormier '01."

5) "For a good closer, you don't need to spend 4M on '00 Hoffman. Try out '18 Jake Northrop, '67 Cisco Carlos, '03 Rafael Soriano or '58 Barry Latman. They're cheap, good for their buck (no guarantees but usually do well for most owners). Just set them to 15 pitches and "Use only in save situaion." You can free another 2M for a position upgrade OR pitching upgrade."

Interesting how Bob Gibson is a waste of money, while a no-name like Tommy Delacruz is solid. Ditto Trevor Hoffman compared to Cisco Carlos or Barry Latman (who?).

.

The reason for that is because guys you never heard of are more likely to have quirky seasons where they barely get 200 IPs and have a good ERA, WHIP, HR/9 etc... and those are the best guys to get in the sim at WIS...aren't they updating thier engine in like May or something?

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

If you wanna know why Larry's team is winning (other than using the wrong years), look where he ranks in errors. Stone hands Frank Thomas and company are on pace to commit only 67 errors all season.

One of many critical flaws of wis. When doing a draft FOR wis, you can accept that. But it sucks as a representation of actual reality. I mean, who would you want:

Johnny Mize and Lefty Grove

Frank Thomas and Paul Quantrill.

In this sim, the latter by a LONG shot. Oh, thats realistic.

quite honestly...the biggest issue isn't the sim's programming, its the years that are being used...

The year Thomas is using could be better than the year Mize is using...

Quantrill might have wrong year (still... I'm trying guys), but that year, other than innings, could be better than the year you have Grove with...

See, we aren't talking "greatest players" in this... we're talking "Greatest seasons" and really its third seasons as well...

The next time we do this, we need to have some sort of minimum level of skill/ability... some stat threshold...

and then we get to use ANY year that that player played...

although no one is listening, maybe someone reads this so it has a chance of making try #2 at this a little better than try #1... and that'll be hard to do...

Go away.

now your jealous 'cuz I have a better way of running it than you? *shakes head* I'm sorry I have to be so good at everything, Harrier... :rotflmao:

Larry, why don't you ever respond to me, larry?

 

[Sammy3469]

I think some of it is whoever it is has to be the best in that year (I'm glad no one knew that before doing it)

I think this is one of the reasons Grimes is doing so well. In 1920 he had the best OAV.

After further perusing of the WIS forum, I've found that this is exactly right.Stats are normalized against MLB averages (not NL /AL averages) for a given year. The further someone is away from the average in their year, the better (or worse) they'll be.

I think that's one of the reasons Grove isn't lights out in the Sim since there were at least a couple of SP with similar if not better stats for the year that is being used. It's also the reason Ryan sucks in this. He just gives up too many walks against the league average. When he goes against guys who draw a lot of walks, he gets in trouble quick.If I'm reading the RP stuff correctly, it looks like the RPs are grouped together for each year. Thus, guys with low IP, but good internal stats are rewarded at the expense of closers. If that's really the case, Whatif will never be a good sim for our purposes.

I have no explanation for the hitters besides for the fact that the vast majority are underperforming which I think is a result of the pitching.

 

[Doug B]

WHOOOAAAA.....

So they go through ALL the effort of year by year normalization, but a pitcher who has to face DH's every night is compared to pitchers who never saw a DH in their life?

Likewise, in a year where the NL is very low scoring but the AL is high scoring, players are compared to each other, not just in league?

Looks that way.

 

[Sammy3469]

I think some of it is whoever it is has to be the best in that year (I'm glad no one knew that before doing it)

I think this is one of the reasons Grimes is doing so well. In 1920 he had the best OAV.

After further perusing of the WIS forum, I've found that this is exactly right.Stats are normalized against MLB averages (not NL /AL averages) for a given year. The further someone is away from the average in their year, the better (or worse) they'll be.

WHOOOAAAA.....So they go through ALL the effort of year by year normalization, but a pitcher who has to face DH's every night is compared to pitchers who never saw a DH in their life?

Likewise, in a year where the NL is very low scoring but the AL is high scoring, players are compared to each other, not just in league?

I could be wrong, but I think post-DH Al is compared to AL and NL is compared to NL, but I could be wrong.

 

[larry_boy_44]

You guys are all jealous of my team and it's pathetic.  I mean, I'm obviously smarter than all of you so why not just admit it.  lol

Also Funkley is an old man and wears depends because if he did not he would poop his pants.

If you guys do another draft with out me I will post my picks anyway just so you can see how to draft an actual good team.  lol

Interesting.

I DIDN'T SAY THAT!!! DON'T MISQUOTE ME!!!! GRRRR!!!!!

someone quote this so they can see that I didn't actually say that... please...

 

[UCONN]

Respect the petition. Please leave.

 

[Doug B]

If I'm reading the RP stuff correctly, it looks like the RPs are grouped together for each year. Thus, guys with low IP, but good internal stats are rewarded at the expense of closers. If that's really the case, Whatif will never be a good sim for our purposes.

Yep ... my interest in Diamond Legends's sim is growing. That's the one that uses career stats to determine salary -- no individual seasons..

 

[UCONN]

Honestly Larry...for all your talk about "following the rules" follow ours. We, as a league, formed a petition and voted you off with a majority. You are not welcome here. Respect the "rules" of this league and quietly walk away. The time for debate is over. I'll bump the petition if you'd like.

 

[Bogart]

blah blah blah.....blah.....Dragons ROCK!! blah, blah.....blah, blah,blah......Frank Thomas

Interesting.

Please quote Larry like this from now on. It makes everyone happy.

 

[Funkley]

You guys are all jealous of my team and it's pathetic.  I mean, I'm obviously smarter than all of you so why not just admit it.  lol

Also Funkley is an old man and wears depends because if he did not he would poop his pants.

If you guys do another draft with out me I will post my picks anyway just so you can see how to draft an actual good team.  lol

Interesting.

Funny but that sounds like you. Have you been mentoring Larry? That last sentence sounds more like DevilRayB.

 

[Kraft...]

If I'm reading the RP stuff correctly, it looks like the RPs are grouped together for each year.  Thus, guys with low IP, but good internal stats are rewarded at the expense of closers.  If that's really the case, Whatif will never be a good sim for our purposes.

Yep ... my interest in Diamond Legends's sim is growing. That's the one that uses career stats to determine salary -- no individual seasons..

I'm intreagued, I'll have to check it out.

 

[Koya]

If I'm reading the RP stuff correctly, it looks like the RPs are grouped together for each year.  Thus, guys with low IP, but good internal stats are rewarded at the expense of closers.  If that's really the case, Whatif will never be a good sim for our purposes.

Yep ... my interest in Diamond Legends's sim is growing. That's the one that uses career stats to determine salary -- no individual seasons..

Are they also normalized stats? Raw career stats would not do much good either!

 

[Koya]

14 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)13 Members: ScottNorwood, Funkley, UCONN, Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll, Doug B, Mr. Pickles, Koya, Bogart, Giant Wooden Badger, Sammy3469, Aaron Rudnicki, trefor3, purplehaze67Seems like both the Pres. and his scheming Atty General are both out. Power vacuum!!!

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Anyone else really close to ignoring Koya as well?Like nails on the innernet chalkboard.

 

[Doug B]

Haven't yet been able to find specific info on Diamond Legends's sim engine.

Here's the home page of their virtual tour. Not super informative.

There are pages where you can see players' salaries, though. You can see how they are based on careers. Also, only players HOF-eligible are used in the DL sim -- no Barry Bonds, Big Unit, or Roger Clemens.

Probably need to send the DL staff some e-mails to get better info.

.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Hey Larry, because you continued to not respond to me, I won't do you the favor, you are now literally begging for, of quoting you in that post above.See how the world works, #######? I was like your last breath of life support, but you were too stupid to realize it.So long, sucker. :stillers:

 

[Sammy3469]

One more thing, it's not just how much they overperform the league average for that year, but how much that % is relative to all the other players in the Sim we are using. (This is actually a big difference, which I hadn't noted before).Thus Grove may have outperformed in 1920, but realtive to all the other seasons we are using on our 24 teams, that season may not be that impressive. Therefore, Ryan's season is even worse than I initially thought.

 

[ScottNorwood]

Now that I've given it some thought, I think it's possible that dragons aren't real.

There ya go buddy.

 

[UCONN]

Now that I've given it some thought, I think it's possible that dragons aren't real.

There ya go buddy.

baby steps...

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Hey Larry, because you continued to not respond to me, I won't do you the favor, you are now literally begging for, of quoting you in that post above.

See how the world works, #######?

I was like your last breath of life support, but you were too stupid to realize it.

So long, sucker. :stillers:

And you know what's even funnier LARRY BOY? It's the part where you report me for the above post...BUT NOTHING HAPPENS, because it will FALL ON DEAF EARS, after all the crap you've pulled. :rotflmao: See ya, buddy!

 

[Kraft...]

Hey Larry, because you continued to not respond to me, I won't do you the favor, you are now literally begging for, of quoting you in that post above.

See how the world works, #######? 

I was like your last breath of life support, but you were too stupid to realize it.

So long, sucker.  :stillers:

And you know what's even funnier LARRY BOY? It's the part where you report me for the above post...BUT NOTHING HAPPENS, because it will FALL ON DEAF EARS, after all the crap you've pulled. :rotflmao: See ya, buddy!

He did it again? You've got to be F'ing kidding.

 

[Doug B]

One more thing, it's not just how much they overperform the league average for that year, but how much that % is relative to all the other players in the Sim we are using. (This is actually a big difference, which I hadn't noted before).

Not doubting you -- you're making perfect sense -- but I was wondering how you learned that. Did you read it in a WIS forum, or deduce that for yourself?

 

[Koya]

Anyone else really close to ignoring Koya as well?

Like nails on the innernet chalkboard.

You are just jealous at my snake skills.

 

[Koya]

Haven't yet been able to find specific info on Diamond Legends's sim engine.

Here's the home page of their virtual tour. Not super informative.

There are pages where you can see players' salaries, though. You can see how they are based on careers. Also, only players HOF-eligible are used in the DL sim -- no Barry Bonds, Big Unit, or Roger Clemens.

Probably need to send the DL staff some e-mails to get better info.

.

Interesting. I just checked it out quick - 50 bucks a team is serious. It BETTER be good. I mean, once you know the WIS engine, 5 games for the cost of one might not be so bad.I am interested however.

 

[UCONN]

Hey Larry, because you continued to not respond to me, I won't do you the favor, you are now literally begging for, of quoting you in that post above.

See how the world works, #######? 

I was like your last breath of life support, but you were too stupid to realize it.

So long, sucker.  :stillers:

And you know what's even funnier LARRY BOY? It's the part where you report me for the above post...BUT NOTHING HAPPENS, because it will FALL ON DEAF EARS, after all the crap you've pulled. :rotflmao: See ya, buddy!

LB=

 

[Koya]

One more thing, it's not just how much they overperform the league average for that year, but how much that % is relative to all the other players in the Sim we are using. (This is actually a big difference, which I hadn't noted before).

Thus Grove may have outperformed in 1920, but realtive to all the other seasons we are using on our 24 teams, that season may not be that impressive.

Therefore, Ryan's season is even worse than I initially thought.

Again, ERA is not a meaningful stat for Sim purposes, correct? Because adjusted ERA might be great, but if the other numbers are not as great - especially in comparison to other players - then not letting guys score will not be reflected in the pitchers sim performace. A pitcher that might have let in the fewest runs, but would let some runners on base before bearing down, even if that was their way of being (i.e. Leiter) would suck then (theoretically speaking. I think he is doing well in this sim actually)

 

[Koya]

Now that I've given it some thought, I think it's possible that dragons aren't real.

There ya go buddy.

baby steps...

Yup. We have an apology and at least this demonstration of critical thought. Good show.