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Tomorrow in Spain

I know Valencia is in 17th place, playing to stay out of the relegation zone.
Osasuna is in dead last but are at home. They have scored 2 goals since Halloween.
Valencia has 9 losses only 1 of those have come against a team currently below 11th place, in contrast they have scored in every game since Halloween (only been shut out twice all year)

Valencia -115
 

 
all these games kinda sucked this weekend, if it werent for gambling they would have been boring

Margin of victory for the 4 favorites: 76 points

 
regularguy said:
Really?  Good for you.  I wish I could've gotten in on the Landry plays you posted.  I thought it was a sucky weekend.  All the faves covered and props seem to be a mixed bag for me.
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Yeah I got crushed this weekend, oh well, CFB championship tomorrow!!

 
dang hope props werent break even for you guys.   think I was around 40-20ish with 11 of those 20 coming in this last game

got crushed on sides though

 
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regularguy said:
Really?  Good for you.  I wish I could've gotten in on the Landry plays you posted.  I thought it was a sucky weekend.  All the faves covered and props seem to be a mixed bag for me.
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Swirve props killed it in 3 out of 4 games, those Landry specials and won a few units on a parlay

 
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swirvenirvin said:
dang hope props werent break even for you guys.   think I was around 40-20ish with 11 of those 20 coming in this last game

got crushed on sides though
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No, I did well on your plays although I didn't get to play last night's game.  Thanks as always.  Everything else I played lost though....everything

 
regularguy said:
No, I did well on your plays although I didn't get to play last night's game.  Thanks as always.  Everything else I played lost though....everything
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yeah i missed most of yesterdays stuff.....i plan on making it all up tomorrow night when clemson stomps bama

 
culdeus said:
Em says ill get cut. 
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Swirve has made me a few grand the past 3 years and I'm not cut. That said I'm starting to get greedy and my unit is getting bigger. They say when you get cut you feel like a real man. 

 
WilliamBonney said:
Swirve has made me a few grand the past 3 years and I'm not cut. That said I'm starting to get greedy and my unit is getting bigger. They say when you get cut you feel like a real man. 
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If your unit is getting bigger that would seem like a win to me.

 
There's only one game left in an exciting 2016-17 college football season.

We've asked our experienced group of gambling experts -- Phil Steele, Will Harris, "Stanford Steve" Coughlin, Chris Fallica and Rufus Peabody -- to provide their best bet for the CFP National Championship Game presented by AT&T on Monday.




Alabama Crimson Tide (-6.5) vs. Clemson Tigers


8 p.m. ET, ESPN
Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, Fla.

Total: 50.5

PickCenter consensus: 65 percent Clemson

"Stanford Steve" Coughlin: There has been plenty of talk about the revenge factor and the motivation Clemson has after being so close to last year's title in Glendale, Arizona, against Nick Saban's squad. But don't you think there is also motivation for Alabama to get another chance at defending that Clemson offense, specifically, Deshaun Watson, as he sliced and diced his way in, around and over the Tide defense, accounting for over 470 yards of offense and throwing four touchdowns? While plenty of people have weighed in about the dismissal of Lane Kiffin, I really don't think it will be that much of a difference.

The one thing I would look for is the Crimson Tide to run the ball more, especially in the red zone, which was always an area where I thought Kiffin tried to get too cute sometimes with his playcalling. I don't think Bama will play as poorly as it did in the Peach Bowl, and Clemson will not be as dominant as it was in the Fiesta Bowl. But the Tigers have the tools on offense to keep the Crimson Tide defense off-kilter, and I think Clemson wins the game on the field, but we will for sure take the points as well.

Against the spread pick: Clemson
Score: Clemson 24, Alabama 21

Chris Fallica: In last year's title game, Watson threw for 405 yards, and the Tigers racked up 40 points and an incredible 31 first downs. And that was without wide receiver Mike Williams, who has been lights out this year.

Prior to the drama with the departure of Kiffin, I was ready to say the win over Washington was about as perfect as it could be for Nick Saban and the staff in terms of getting the team focused and ready for the Tigers. It was a sloppy win with penalties, mistakes and inefficient offense. So while the Kiffin loss muddies that a bit, I still think Bama will be in a good spot as far as preparation goes.


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Keep in mind, though, that Alabama has faced three teams ranked in the top 10 nationally in defensive efficiency -- Florida, LSU and Washington -- and Clemson will be the fourth. In those three games, the Tide averaged under 340.3 yards per game (5.3 per play), scored touchdowns on just eight of 37 drives and failed to gain a first down on 16 of those drives. Quarterback Jalen Hurts struggled; in those three games he was 28-of-53 and averaged 100.7 passing yards per game with one TD pass and two turnovers. He also was sacked six times in those games. And when he had to throw on third down, Hurts was just 8-of-19, and only two of those completions went for a first down. So while many people will be focusing on the Clemson offense versus the Bama defense -- and rightly so -- don't forget this angle as well.

While running back Bo Scarbrough had a huge game against Washington, Clemson has held opponents to negative rush yards before first contact in two of its past four games, so rushing yards may not come as easily Monday night against one of the best fronts in the country.

Last week against Ohio State, Clemson opened as an underdog before closing as a one-point favorite at Westgate. And we've noted the Tigers' success in bowls under Dabo Swinney as an underdog -- five games, four outright wins and a 5-0 ATS record.

I think there are two ways to play this game: Either lay the points (if you like Bama) or play Clemson on the money line. Here's why: There have been 24 games going back to the first BCS Championship Game, and only twice the underdog covered but didn't win outright -- in 2013, when Auburn lost by three as a double-digit underdog in the final seconds to Florida State, and last year, when Clemson led for a good part of the game and ultimately needed a late score to cover. Twelve other times the dog won outright, and 10 other times the favorite covered.

Doesn't it just feel like the story to the 2016 season is supposed to end with redemption? The team that came so close a year ago gets back to avenge the defeat and win a national title? Storylines aside, I think there is plenty to like about the Tigers in this matchup, and it all adds up to a Clemson win and the Tigers' first national title since 1981.

ATS pick: Clemson
Score: Clemson 37, Alabama 28

Rufus Peabody: We get a rematch of last season's national championship game, but don't expect Alabama to give up 40 points again. This really is a fitting title game, as not only are the teams the most deserving based on their resumes, but they are the best predictively as well. Going into bowl season, Massey-Peabody would have made the Crimson Tide almost a nine-point favorite over the Tigers, but the CFP semifinals moved the needle a bit. Clemson's 31-0 victory over Ohio State was Massey-Peabody's top-graded performance of any team in bowl season, closing the gap with Bama, but only slightly, since Alabama's 24-7 win over Washington was the second-highest-graded performance. Unfortunately, I think the market is just about spot-on for this game, and it would take a substantial move to create enough value for me to even lean one way or another (on either the side or total).

Pick: Pass
Massey-Peabody line: Alabama -7.5; Total: 51.6

Phil Steele: I'm not a big fan of isolated games such as this, as there's little value. Everyone knows everything about the game, and it's been broken down and analyzed by every media source in the country. I think it will be an excellent game, much like last year's, but with one big difference: I don't see the score anywhere near last year's 45-40 shootout.

I doubt Saban has gone long this past year without thinking about those 550 yards and 40 points Watson & Co. hung on his defense last season. Alabama has too much talent on defense to allow that again. On the flip side, Alabama's offense has struggled against the top defenses it has faced. The Crimson Tide were shut out for three quarters versus LSU, managing just 10 points and 323 total yards. Against a Florida defense that was missing seven starters, they managed zero first downs and minus-4 total yards in the first quarter, finishing with just 18 first downs for the game. Last week, they had just 16 first downs and 326 total yards, and that includes Bo Scarborough's 68-yard fourth-quarter touchdown run.

Clemson's defense has held its last four foes to either their season-low or second-lowest output of the year. Alabama's defense has held foes to 201 yards per game below their season average. My computer says Alabama will win, and my favorite play here is under the total.

ATS pick: Under
Score: Alabama 27, Clemson 20

Will Harris: The freshman quarterback's regression as a passer, 25 negative plays in a chippy semifinal, a last-minute change in offensive brain trust and just way too much drama raise a lot of questions about the Alabama offense. But right now, the Alabama defense doesn't care if it's a three-ring circus on the other side of the ball. It's ready and able to take matters into its own hands.

The teams that have caused Saban's Alabama defenses the biggest problems are all practitioners of modern offense, characterized by extensive utilization of fast tempo, four-wide receiver formations, zone-read running plays and run-pass options, plus the prioritization of speed over mass and the intent to operate more in space than in the box. "Spread" teams Ole Miss, Auburn, Texas A&M, Oklahoma and Ohio State are exclusively responsible for Alabama's losses since the Crimson Tide last fell to an in-the-box attack back in 2011.






Clemson is the class of that lot. The Tide survived a shootout with a lesser Tigers squad last year, and this year they face a bigger threat from an older, wiser outfit that's no longer new to the big stage. But Alabama has been preparing for this kind of showdown for almost three years. Being better able to handle an elite "fastball" team, as Saban calls them, has been the driving motive behind a shift in the kind of defense played at Alabama and the kind of players who play it.

Alabama has been rebuilt for exactly this moment, to a minor extent via changes in scheme and training regimen, but principally through recruiting. The leaner, faster athletes the Tide defense has been stockpiling for the past couple years are now in the starting lineup. This game is the payoff for that evolution.

ATS pick: Alabama

 
Ill probably jump in next NFL year.  Sort of quit when I got cut on teasers and then everyone cut the odds on those. 

Miss it. 

 
culdeus said:
Ill probably jump in next NFL year.  Sort of quit when I got cut on teasers and then everyone cut the odds on those. 

Miss it. 
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It took me a minute, but I finally realized a few things. 1. Just follow the players here. 2. DO NOT login drunk and think you can operate the boat. 

 
TheGooRoo said:
Grab some lines for tomorrow's game and let's make some cash!
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Hey Goo, would love to see what you are playing tomorrow, think about it rationally, and make educated decisions on my own plays directly after.  Thanks in advance, mi amigo!

 
facook said:
Hey Goo, would love to see what you are playing tomorrow, think about it rationally, and make educated decisions on my own plays directly after.  Thanks in advance, mi amigo!
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I'd love to take your picks and Put no thought into them while placing the wagers. :)

 
For big games such as these we post a prop and ONLY ONE PROP and then look for a gooroo like. 

Example

Ridley u4.5 rec -140

 
lumpy19 said:
For big games such as these we post a prop and ONLY ONE PROP and then look for a gooroo like. 

Example

Ridley u4.5 rec -140
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Seeing -155 at sbet, have a local with -110.  Tankersley should lock him down pretty good.  Have a u58 in at a low limit book.


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CFB


STRAIGHT BET
[40306] UNDER u58½-120 (TOTAL RECEIVING YARDS BY CALVIN RIDLEY (ALA))


300


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