*** OFFICIAL FIRE JEFF FISHER NOW THREAD *** (1 Viewer)

[rzrback77]

Biggest issue that I see is that the defense which a lot of posters this summer thought would still be upper echelon has dropped off badly, especially the passing game defense, without Haynesworth or Schwartz. Have there been others lost to injury or is it basically just the loss of Haynesworth and Schwartz?

I think that Vince Young and his aloof attitude also affects the team more than most think. To see him on the sideline not actively following the game and most likely listening to his ipod is unfathomable to me.

Offensive success has been significantly limited this year as well.

 

[Godsbrother]

Fisher is a very good coach. I think his problem is the team wasn't quite as good last season as their 13-3 record suggested. They benefited in having a very good defense, getting ahead early and pounding the ball. Losing Haynesworth was a huge blow and Collins just isn't the kind of QB that is going to make a living coming from behind.

I still think that Fisher is going to salvage a decent record (though the playoffs are unlikely to say the least). Whether or not it will be enough to save his job remains to be seen. If he is fired he will not remain unemployed for long and maybe a change of scenery is what he needs.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Can we please cut down on the "Fisher is one of the best coaches in the league" talk now? Only 6 winning seasons and 4 playoff wins in 15 years is one of the best coaches? Puh-lease.Not saying he should be fired, but I always chuckle when people talk about the best coaches in the NFL and put Fisher's name alongside those coaches who are proven winners.

55% career winning percentage despite dealing with *THREE* massive rebuilding phases (once when he first got there, then twice more thanks to the front office's tendency to keep blowing the team up and starting over).Your "6 winning seasons" stat is deliberately misleading. I could just as easily say that he's only had 4 losing seasons in 14 years.

It is not deliberately misleading...it is a fact. So is his only having 5 playoff wins (I misspoke yesterday and said it was 4). His overall regular season record is good, yes, and Fisher does often give the most out of his teams, but my only beef, like I said earlier, was including him in that list of top tier coaches. That list is usually reserved for coaches who are proven winners, ya know, ones who have won a Super Bowl, or at least have had a lot of postseason success. Granted, the list is a bit more difficult to make right now since three guys who would put up there (Shanny, Cowher and Dungy) are not coaching right now, but I still don't think Fisher has done enough in the postseason to warrant the praise he always gets. If he coached in NY, he would get killed for never winning in the playoffs, but he seems to get a pass from fans in Tennessee, most of whom are probably just happy to have a team in general, and happy to have a team that has a winning season two out of every five years.

 

[bean]

I think that Vince Young and his aloof attitude also affects the team more than most think. To see him on the sideline not actively following the game and most likely listening to his ipod is unfathomable to me.

It's not an ipod, he's listening to the play calls on a radio.

 

[timschochet]

The Titans' performance so far this year is due to lack of talent at several positions, and it only makes me impressed by Fisher even more. How he managed to achieve a 13-3 record with this group last year is nothing short of amazing.

It's very hard to win consistently without a franchise QB in the NFL. The talent in all other positions is simply too interchangeable.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Listening to the posters in this thread makes it sound like Dan Snyder was a genius for signing such a dominant force in the off-season. Listening to the posters in the Redskins thread makes it sound like Dan Snyder was an idiot for paying so much money for a defensive tackle.

 

[Clash of the Titans]

i have looked into my crystal ball and i see the titans losing the next two games.............at home this Sunday night versus indy and then the pats in new england.................then there is the bye week

0-6

who woulda thunk it??

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

The Titans' performance so far this year is due to lack of talent at several positions, and it only makes me impressed by Fisher even more. How he managed to achieve a 13-3 record with this group last year is nothing short of amazing. It's very hard to win consistently without a franchise QB in the NFL. The talent in all other positions is simply too interchangeable.

Titans returned 20 of the starting 22 from last year's 13-3 AFC Champion team. Even if 13-3 should have been 11-5, 2 players don't make it a winless start.

 

[domvin]

I'd love to see Fischer in cincy. No coach gets more out of his players than Fischer, year after year, free agent defection after free agent defection.

I remember the year Young, leinart and cutler came out in the draft.

Bud Adams had to have Young, depite chow and fischer wanting leinart or cutler.

TN takes Vince, and Fischer recommends shanahan take cutler.

The rest is history. Sometimes the schedule is tough to overcome. bad Luck as well.

I think from all the winning seasons, you're spoiled and have never experienced a losing team? I see you're a Saban fan though

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

The Titans' performance so far this year is due to lack of talent at several positions, and it only makes me impressed by Fisher even more. How he managed to achieve a 13-3 record with this group last year is nothing short of amazing. It's very hard to win consistently without a franchise QB in the NFL. The talent in all other positions is simply too interchangeable.

Titans returned 20 of the starting 22 from last year's 13-3 AFC Champion team. Even if 13-3 should have been 11-5, 2 players don't make it a winless start.

They also have some injuries in the secondary which contribute mightily to their inability to stop anyone. Do the Titans really want to be as smart as the Jaguars were when they got rid of Coughlin or the Browns when they unloaded Belichick after a down season?

 

[pollardsvision]

Listening to the posters in this thread makes it sound like Dan Snyder was a genius for signing such a dominant force in the off-season. Listening to the posters in the Redskins thread makes it sound like Dan Snyder was an idiot for paying so much money for a defensive tackle.

I think both can be true. The Titans can be devastated by the loss of Haynesworth, while the addition of Haynesworth isn't helping the 'Skins as much as hoped. Haynesworth is a player that's very difficult to value, imo. When healthy and motivated, he might be the most valuable defensive player in the league. He also strikes me as the type of player that doesn't make for a good long-term investment.The Titans lost "contract year Haynesworth". The Redskins probably got "just got paid Haynesworth". I suspect those are very different players.

 

[Steady Mooobin]

Listening to the posters in this thread makes it sound like Dan Snyder was a genius for signing such a dominant force in the off-season. Listening to the posters in the Redskins thread makes it sound like Dan Snyder was an idiot for paying so much money for a defensive tackle.

I think both can be true. The Titans can be devastated by the loss of Haynesworth, while the addition of Haynesworth isn't helping the 'Skins as much as hoped. Haynesworth is a player that's very difficult to value, imo. When healthy and motivated, he might be the most valuable defensive player in the league. He also strikes me as the type of player that doesn't make for a good long-term investment.The Titans lost "contract year Haynesworth". The Redskins probably got "just got paid Haynesworth". I suspect those are very different players.

The difference I think, is that Fisher wouldn't have let Hayneworth come into camp overweight and out of shape. Haynesworth is an animal when he isn't sucking wind on the sideline. Never seen a DT man handle anybody on him like he does.

 

[pollardsvision]

The Titans' performance so far this year is due to lack of talent at several positions, and it only makes me impressed by Fisher even more. How he managed to achieve a 13-3 record with this group last year is nothing short of amazing. It's very hard to win consistently without a franchise QB in the NFL. The talent in all other positions is simply too interchangeable.

Titans returned 20 of the starting 22 from last year's 13-3 AFC Champion team. Even if 13-3 should have been 11-5, 2 players don't make it a winless start.

Twice this decade, the Bears have put up lucky 13-3 seasons only to demonstrate the next season that they are very average. It's especially prone to happen when you get a ridiculous year from the defense to mask the problems with the offense. The Titans got lucky last year, so they will be experiencing that confusion that Bears fans know all too well. It'll sting, but you'll eventually understand that last year was fluke and it'll save you the headache of wondering what's wrong this season.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

The Titans' performance so far this year is due to lack of talent at several positions, and it only makes me impressed by Fisher even more. How he managed to achieve a 13-3 record with this group last year is nothing short of amazing. It's very hard to win consistently without a franchise QB in the NFL. The talent in all other positions is simply too interchangeable.

Titans returned 20 of the starting 22 from last year's 13-3 AFC Champion team. Even if 13-3 should have been 11-5, 2 players don't make it a winless start.

They also have some injuries in the secondary which contribute mightily to their inability to stop anyone.

What was the excuse the first 2 1/2 games?

 

[pollardsvision]

Listening to the posters in this thread makes it sound like Dan Snyder was a genius for signing such a dominant force in the off-season. Listening to the posters in the Redskins thread makes it sound like Dan Snyder was an idiot for paying so much money for a defensive tackle.

I think both can be true. The Titans can be devastated by the loss of Haynesworth, while the addition of Haynesworth isn't helping the 'Skins as much as hoped. Haynesworth is a player that's very difficult to value, imo. When healthy and motivated, he might be the most valuable defensive player in the league. He also strikes me as the type of player that doesn't make for a good long-term investment.The Titans lost "contract year Haynesworth". The Redskins probably got "just got paid Haynesworth". I suspect those are very different players.

The difference I think, is that Fisher wouldn't have let Hayneworth come into camp overweight and out of shape. Haynesworth is an animal when he isn't sucking wind on the sideline. Never seen a DT man handle anybody on him like he does.

Good point. In addition to "just got paid Haynesworth", they also got "Jim Zorn coached Haynesworth".

 

[Deranged Hermit]

If Fisher were fired, Jerry Jones would have his limo waiting to pick him up as he left the facility. He's wanted Fisher for a while now.

 

[coolnerd]

If Fisher were fired, Jerry Jones would have his limo waiting to pick him up as he left the facility. He's wanted Fisher for a while now.

That would be an interesting and probably good match for Jones. Fisher does not seem to need the spotlight and does not have total personal control now in Tennessee. The biggest thing would be does Jones let him coach and install whatever systems of motivation and discipline that allows him to "get more of of his players" which is Fisher's supposed strength.

 

[Clash of the Titans]

good ahead and make it 0-5...............what a disturbing pattern of play calls here in the 1st half............too many colts' weapons on offense

what i will be wearing to the bills game......1st to score wins

 

[Bills_Fan11]

I'll put **** Jauron on the trading block if you're interested.

 

[Clash of the Titans]

going for 0-6 today.................who's gonna take a worse beating....the titans in gillette stadium or fisher's grizzly adams beard by a gillette razor.........

inquiring minds wanna know................straw poll perhaps??

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

At what point do commentators stop saying stupid things like "this is the best 0-6 team in history"? It's becoming more apparent every week that this team is no different than other winless teams.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I watched the Rams and the Titans games today. The Rams will crush the Titans when they meet.

 

[Knobs]

The Patriots destroyed them in one quarter.

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

Going back to last season and postseason, the Titans have lost 8 straight.

 

[timschochet]

I have no idea what's wrong with the Titans this year. But I firmly believe that Jeff Fisher is one of the elite coaches in all of football. Fire him if you want, but I can think of a lot of teams that he would improve by his presence.

 

[jurb26]

I have no idea what's wrong with the Titans this year. But I firmly believe that Jeff Fisher is one of the elite coaches in all of football. Fire him if you want, but I can think of a lot of teams that he would improve by his presence.

I have a feeling that the Washington Redskins would be the 1st to be calling.

 

[coolnerd]

I have no idea what's wrong with the Titans this year. But I firmly believe that Jeff Fisher is one of the elite coaches in all of football. Fire him if you want, but I can think of a lot of teams that he would improve by his presence.

How many coaches can get beat 59-0 where his team tucked tail and quit would still be garning posts about him being elite?

 

[FUBAR]

How does a team go from being so good (best record in the AFC last year) to so bad (0 for 2009) so quickly?

because they were winning by everything clicking. When you're not more talented than the other teams you have to work harder to perfect your game. They actually are more talented this year, at least on offense, but they aren't working as hard on the little things that win games. Chuck Cecil is not Jim Schwartz.

 

[Ghost Rider]

It is time for a change in Tennessee. Sometimes, a coach has worn out his welcome, and a change is needed. The way the team simply gave up and laid down in a 59-0 loss to the Patriots today says a lot about how Fisher has lost this team. It doesn't mean Fisher is suddenly a bad coach, either.

 

[spacevan]

My opinion on this whole thing is that they lost a leader on DEF in Haynesworth and lets admit the dude was a force last year. The rest of the team watches him leave and get paid. Now their QB situation is a cluster#### situation with no one to lead and the guy that should be leading has some sort of a mental malfunction.

McNair tragedy. It has to add to the lack of focus on this team/coaches I don't care what anyone says.

Put all three of those things together and you have a team that's lost focus and cohesion.

They will have a good draft and fix this. Fisher is not to blame IMO.

But they better get a QB and stat!!!

 

[cobalt_27]

It is time for a change in Tennessee. Sometimes, a coach has worn out his welcome, and a change is needed. The way the team simply gave up and laid down in a 59-0 loss to the Patriots today says a lot about how Fisher has lost this team. It doesn't mean Fisher is suddenly a bad coach, either.

at all the Oilers fans just itching to get rid of Jeff Fisher. Talk about focusing in on the least of your worries, as a franchise.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

The real problem is the injuries in the secondary. This has allowed their opponents to score at will through the air which puts their offense into situations it wasn't built for. Now it appears the losing has affected their confidence and focus in a big way and maybe caused some players to quit.

 

[FUBAR]

Keep Fisher, draft a QB or trade for Kolb, spend some $$ on the DL. They can fix this in a year or two.

 

[jurb26]

Keep Fisher, draft a QB or trade for Kolb, spend some $$ on the DL. They can fix this in a year or two.

If Tenn trades for Kolb and drafts the DT from Nebraska (sorry but can't remember how to spell his name) then I think they pretty much are set.

 

[John Facenda]

Can we please cut down on the "Fisher is one of the best coaches in the league" talk now? Only 6 winning seasons and 4 playoff wins in 15 years is one of the best coaches? Puh-lease.

Not saying he should be fired, but I always chuckle when people talk about the best coaches in the NFL and put Fisher's name alongside those coaches who are proven winners.

55% career winning percentage despite dealing with *THREE* massive rebuilding phases (once when he first got there, then twice more thanks to the front office's tendency to keep blowing the team up and starting over).Your "6 winning seasons" stat is deliberately misleading. I could just as easily say that he's only had 4 losing seasons in 14 years.

It is not deliberately misleading...it is a fact. So is his only having 5 playoff wins (I misspoke yesterday and said it was 4). His overall regular season record is good, yes, and Fisher does often give the most out of his teams, but my only beef, like I said earlier, was including him in that list of top tier coaches. That list is usually reserved for coaches who are proven winners, ya know, ones who have won a Super Bowl, or at least have had a lot of postseason success. Granted, the list is a bit more difficult to make right now since three guys who would put up there (Shanny, Cowher and Dungy) are not coaching right now, but I still don't think Fisher has done enough in the postseason to warrant the praise he always gets. If he coached in NY, he would get killed for never winning in the playoffs, but he seems to get a pass from fans in Tennessee, most of whom are probably just happy to have a team in general, and happy to have a team that has a winning season two out of every five years.

This could be the most ridiculous statement I have read on this site.....EVER!! You don't know much about football fans in the state of Tennessee.

 

[Adebisi]

The worst part about yesterday's beat-down was that it looked like Fisher and the Titans didn't even care.

 

[nola]

Fisher is a good coach and franchises need stability. I think he stays. They went 13-3 with Kerry Collins last season. They were not that talented. The folks calling for his head are too "in the moment." Its a bad season (that isn't more than a few plays away from 3-3), not a bad regime or franchise. This is a lot like Dungy in Tampa/

Tony Dungy was run out of Tampa for not winning playoff games with the likes of Shaun King at QB. Tampa wishes they could get Dungy back now, after watching Gruden destroy that organization.

I think he needs to recognize the mistake he made in elevating Cecil to defensive coordinator over Dave Maginnis. Play calling makes a huge difference- look at what Greg Williams has done with the Saints. If the defense stinks, they have to play from behind. That takes the running game- their offensive strength- away. And it puts the whole offense on Kerry Collins, who no longer seems up to it.

 

[benm3218]

Fisher has lost the team... Rumor is we could have had Greg Williams but Fisher wouldnt let his son work for us... Bye bye Fisher

 

[Ghost Rider]

It is time for a change in Tennessee. Sometimes, a coach has worn out his welcome, and a change is needed. The way the team simply gave up and laid down in a 59-0 loss to the Patriots today says a lot about how Fisher has lost this team. It doesn't mean Fisher is suddenly a bad coach, either.

at all the Oilers fans just itching to get rid of Jeff Fisher. Talk about focusing in on the least of your worries, as a franchise.

What Oilers fans? I am a Broncos fan, FYI.

You don't know much about football fans in the state of Tennessee.

Perhaps not, but it always seem like, on a national level, he gets a pass whenever his team loses to a lower ranked team in the playoffs, or when his team misses the playoffs yet again.

Fisher is a good coach and franchises need stability. I think he stays. They went 13-3 with Kerry Collins last season. They were not that talented. The folks calling for his head are too "in the moment." Its a bad season (that isn't more than a few plays away from 3-3), not a bad regime or franchise. This is a lot like Dungy in Tampa/Tony Dungy was run out of Tampa for not winning playoff games with the likes of Shaun King at QB. Tampa wishes they could get Dungy back now, after watching Gruden destroy that organization.

Dungy couldn't win a Super Bowl with TB; Gruden did it his first year there. I'll bet Bucs fans are pretty happy that Gruden got them that Super Bowl win that Dungy couldn't. Does that mean Dungy was a bad coach? Certainly not. But change was needed in Tampa, just like change is needed in Tennessee.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

I have no idea what's wrong with the Titans this year. But I firmly believe that Jeff Fisher is one of the elite coaches in all of football. Fire him if you want, but I can think of a lot of teams that he would improve by his presence.

Elite? Not at all. Very good? I can agree with that. Yes, he'd improve a lot of teams. Personally, I think he goes to Dallas.

It is time for a change in Tennessee. Sometimes, a coach has worn out his welcome, and a change is needed. The way the team simply gave up and laid down in a 59-0 loss to the Patriots today says a lot about how Fisher has lost this team. It doesn't mean Fisher is suddenly a bad coach, either.

I agree with this. It is stale. Message isn't resonating anymore. Another factor is that with the last contract he got 100% control of staff and then managed to wrestle co-GM personnel decisions withing the last 3-4 years. The power/ego have made him blind to his own weaknesses.Hey, who'd have thought that Shanny would ever be fired...and now they are 5-0 and back on top.

IF you are going to do this, an uncapped 2010 is the perfect time to do it. Bud is 86 and wants to win...fast.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Speaking of being old, I think the way Fisher builds his team isn't conducive to consistently contending for a championship, which is why they seemingly have to rebuild every few years. His whole idea of running the ball and playing good defense to win it all will often put you in contention, but it has given him zero Super Bowl wins; it is like he is still stuck in 1985 to think that he can win it all that way. In this day and age, you have to able to throw the ball and make big plays in the passing game, something which Fisher's teams have almost never done (except for two years, IIRC). I mean, he got Vince Young and then gave him nothing but scrubs to throw to. Same thing with McNair for years. What is the point of getting these potential franchise QBs (not saying Young will end up being one, but when you draft a guy 3rd overall, you are hoping he will be) if you don't give him some good weapons to throw to? Look at the way the air went out of the offense's tires in the playoff game last year the minute Chris Johnson got hurt. It is the same thing with Fisher every year. An average to pitiful passing game that gives the team very little margin for error the minute things don't go their way in a playoff game. If the running game or the defense struggles at all, they are screwed, because they never have the passing game to make any kind of difference.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

Speaking of being old, I think the way Fisher builds his team isn't conducive to consistently contending for a championship, which is why they seemingly have to rebuild every few years. His whole idea of running the ball and playing good defense to win it all will often put you in contention, but it has given him zero Super Bowl wins; it is like he is still stuck in 1985 to think that he can win it all that way. In this day and age, you have to able to throw the ball and make big plays in the passing game, something which Fisher's teams have almost never done (except for two years, IIRC). I mean, he got Vince Young and then gave him nothing but scrubs to throw to. Same thing with McNair for years. What is the point of getting these potential franchise QBs (not saying Young will end up being one, but when you draft a guy 3rd overall, you are hoping he will be) if you don't give him some good weapons to throw to? Look at the way the air went out of the offense's tires in the playoff game last year the minute Chris Johnson got hurt. It is the same thing with Fisher every year. An average to pitiful passing game that gives the team very little margin for error the minute things don't go their way in a playoff game. If the running game or the defense struggles at all, they are screwed, because they never have the passing game to make any kind of difference.

What he said.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Speaking of being old, I think the way Fisher builds his team isn't conducive to consistently contending for a championship, which is why they seemingly have to rebuild every few years. His whole idea of running the ball and playing good defense to win it all will often put you in contention, but it has given him zero Super Bowl wins; it is like he is still stuck in 1985 to think that he can win it all that way. In this day and age, you have to able to throw the ball and make big plays in the passing game, something which Fisher's teams have almost never done (except for two years, IIRC). I mean, he got Vince Young and then gave him nothing but scrubs to throw to. Same thing with McNair for years. What is the point of getting these potential franchise QBs (not saying Young will end up being one, but when you draft a guy 3rd overall, you are hoping he will be) if you don't give him some good weapons to throw to? Look at the way the air went out of the offense's tires in the playoff game last year the minute Chris Johnson got hurt. It is the same thing with Fisher every year. An average to pitiful passing game that gives the team very little margin for error the minute things don't go their way in a playoff game. If the running game or the defense struggles at all, they are screwed, because they never have the passing game to make any kind of difference.

Nice analysis. I actually like the WR pickups this year - Washington and Britt. They just don't have anyone throwing to them. Going back to the 2006 draft - do you think Cutler or Leinart would have made a difference over Young?I don't think Fisher is a bad coach at all, but maybe you are right in that he needs to re-address the team's goals - especially since the defense being fielded will NOT work with his "traditional" approach. The era of tough defenses winning games may be over for now. Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Minnesota have adjusted and are throwing the ball more.And while you make some god points above, this is totally uninformed and just plain wrong:

If he coached in NY, he would get killed for never winning in the playoffs, but he seems to get a pass from fans in Tennessee, most of whom are probably just happy to have a team in general, and happy to have a team that has a winning season two out of every five years.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Nice analysis. I actually like the WR pickups this year - Washington and Britt. They just don't have anyone throwing to them. Going back to the 2006 draft - do you think Cutler or Leinart would have made a difference over Young?

Leinart, at this point, no. Cutler, probably, but the problem is, he is a gunslinger, and his turnovers would drive Fisher nuts. That is the problem: Fisher would have an ultra-conservative passing game, instead of a passing game with a high risk, high reward mentality, which is what you get with Cutler. Cutler is showing in Chicago right now, though, that he can get good production out of mediocre receivers, unlike Collins or Young.

 

[GregR_2]

Fisher has lost the team... Rumor is we could have had Greg Williams but Fisher wouldnt let his son work for us... Bye bye Fisher

I heard this as well for the first time the other day and went googling just now to find more information on it.According to Troy Aikman in the Sporting News article on this, it is Bud Adams that doesn't allow nepotism and wouldn't let Greg Williams bring his son if hired. Not Fisher.

 

[pollardsvision]

The worst part about yesterday's beat-down was that it looked like Fisher and the Titans didn't even care.

Not that it's acceptable to stop caring, but I imagine most people would quit caring by that point. They were 0-5 in the middle of the worst beating in the NFL in the last 50+ years. Their pass defense has been atrocious all year and they were getting lit up by one of the greatest passing offenses in NFL history.They are also not the kind of team with any hope of coming from behind. Even a 21-point deficit is a complete nail in the coffin for the Titans.To care there must be hope. The Titans season hopes were gone 2-3 weeks ago. The hope for yesterday's game was gone very rapidly too. If the Titans started spending Thursday through Saturday deer hunting as a team, it wouldn't matter at this point.

 

[Adebisi]

The worst part about yesterday's beat-down was that it looked like Fisher and the Titans didn't even care.

Not that it's acceptable to stop caring, but I imagine most people would quit caring by that point. They were 0-5 in the middle of the worst beating in the NFL in the last 50+ years. Their pass defense has been atrocious all year and they were getting lit up by one of the greatest passing offenses in NFL history.They are also not the kind of team with any hope of coming from behind. Even a 21-point deficit is a complete nail in the coffin for the Titans.To care there must be hope. The Titans season hopes were gone 2-3 weeks ago. The hope for yesterday's game was gone very rapidly too. If the Titans started spending Thursday through Saturday deer hunting as a team, it wouldn't matter at this point.

I don't mean that they stopped caring once all hope was lost. Even after the first couple of scores, there seemed to be absolutely no emotion or sense of urgency (from what I could see) on the Titans sideline.

 

[spacevan]

I'm thinking Brady Quinn for Lendale White in the offseason....

 

[lod01]

NFL network just mentioned how Bud Adams loves Vince Young and wants him in there. Fisher doesn't deserve that. Change the thread title to, 'Let's hope Fisher gets out of Tennessee'.

Another cleuless owner butting in where he doesn't belong.

 

[jonessed]

I would like to see Fisher in San Diego.