Official Great Works Draft (3 Viewers)

[colonel panic]

You're out of order! You're out of order! The whole trial is out of order! They're out of order!

you'll get your turn, smart guy.

 

[thatguy]

Not sure how this pick will stack up against others in its category, but I really want it on my team. It's my favorite HBO series by far, and even though it only went for 3 seasons, I still deem it very worthy of a place in this draft. The dialogue is some of the best I've ever witnessed in any television series and the character development is phenomenal. Truly some of the best characters ever created, movie or television, are brought to life in this amazing series.

Deadwood - Television show

Deadwood is an American western–drama television series created, produced and almost entirely written by David Milch. The series aired on the premium cable network HBO from 21 March 2004 to 27 August 2006, spanning three 12-episode seasons. Set in the 1870s in Deadwood, South Dakota, the show is set before and after the area's annexation by the Dakota Territory. The series charts Deadwood's growth from camp to town, incorporating themes ranging from the formation of communities to western capitalism. The show features a large ensemble cast, and many historical figures—such as Seth Bullock, Al Swearengen, Wild Bill Hickok, Sol Star, Calamity Jane, Wyatt Earp, E. B. Farnum, Charlie Utter, and George Hearst—appear as characters on the show. The plotlines involving these characters include historical truths as well as substantial fictional elements. Some of the characters are fully fictional, although they may have been based on actual persons. Deadwood received wide critical acclaim , won eight Emmy Awards (in 28 nominations) and one Golden Globe. It consistently drew high ratings

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I've offered my opinions as to why it should be allowed...Tim is just saying "no" and I'm not sure Tim fully believes the selection shouldn't be allowed. I think Tim is afraid that the category won't fall in line with how he believes things should run and allowing my pick will open up the category to different visions.

Or, you know, you could be wrong. Just throwing that out there.

Tim is outspoken and has an opinion on everything...he hasn't said anything in regards to supporting his opinion for vetoing my selection. It meets the criteria and therefore should stand.

It doesn't come close to meeting the criteria.

It absolutely does meet the criteria and that is why I thought to choose it.

No, it really doesn't.

 

[DCThunder]

It is clear from everything that Tim and Krista and even Wikid have said, that the "intent" of the Play category was to be dramatic or comic, scripted or minor ad libbed, stage plays. It specifically did not include musical plays or operas or anything that didn't take place behind a proscenium arch or an in-the-round theatre or any other form of staging you'd like to devise. My attempt to call a TV documentary a "documentary" ran afoul of this same unwritten intent. A stage "play" can be repeated night after night after night, even with different actors or directors.

A football play, may be "scripted" and "rehersed" but it is not necessarily repeatable. Certainly the Immaculate Reception couldn't be. If you'd chosen the Green Bay Packer Power Sweep or the Redskins Counter Trey, those would be repeatable, but still would not fall within the intent of the category.

Just give it a rest.

 

[Mr. Littlejeans]

It is clear from everything that Tim and Krista and even Wikid have said, that the "intent" of the Play category was to be dramatic or comic, scripted or minor ad libbed, stage plays. It specifically did not include musical plays or operas or anything that didn't take place behind a proscenium arch or an in-the-round theatre or any other form of staging you'd like to devise. My attempt to call a TV documentary a "documentary" ran afoul of this same unwritten intent. A stage "play" can be repeated night after night after night, even with different actors or directors.A football play, may be "scripted" and "rehersed" but it is not necessarily repeatable. Certainly the Immaculate Reception couldn't be. If you'd chosen the Green Bay Packer Power Sweep or the Redskins Counter Trey, those would be repeatable, but still would not fall within the intent of the category.Just give it a rest.

Maybe he meant the play "Immaculate Reception."

 

[timschochet]

I have to leave now for several hours. If my pick comes up, skip me.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

It is clear from everything that Tim and Krista and even Wikid have said, that the "intent" of the Play category was to be dramatic or comic, scripted or minor ad libbed, stage plays. It specifically did not include musical plays or operas or anything that didn't take place behind a proscenium arch or an in-the-round theatre or any other form of staging you'd like to devise. My attempt to call a TV documentary a "documentary" ran afoul of this same unwritten intent. A stage "play" can be repeated night after night after night, even with different actors or directors.A football play, may be "scripted" and "rehersed" but it is not necessarily repeatable. Certainly the Immaculate Reception couldn't be. If you'd chosen the Green Bay Packer Power Sweep or the Redskins Counter Trey, those would be repeatable, but still would not fall within the intent of the category.Just give it a rest.

Musicals are allowed.

 

[timschochet]

It is clear from everything that Tim and Krista and even Wikid have said, that the "intent" of the Play category was to be dramatic or comic, scripted or minor ad libbed, stage plays. It specifically did not include musical plays or operas or anything that didn't take place behind a proscenium arch or an in-the-round theatre or any other form of staging you'd like to devise. My attempt to call a TV documentary a "documentary" ran afoul of this same unwritten intent. A stage "play" can be repeated night after night after night, even with different actors or directors.

A football play, may be "scripted" and "rehersed" but it is not necessarily repeatable. Certainly the Immaculate Reception couldn't be. If you'd chosen the Green Bay Packer Power Sweep or the Redskins Counter Trey, those would be repeatable, but still would not fall within the intent of the category.

Just give it a rest.

Musical theatre is certainly accepted. Operas are more suited to the composition category.

 

[Genedoc]

Just so I know going forward, is anyone else going to get another 10, 15, 20 rounds into this and then decide to sabotage it? If so, please PM me now and let me know. I assumed - perhaps naively - that anyone who was willing to submit themselves to something like this was doing it in good faith. Disagreement were inevitable, and up until now they've been handled just fine. I haven't always agreed, but whatever, it's still been a lot of fun. However, it only takes a few dedicated saboteurs and this - or any other - little nerd fest is quickly ruined. If we're going to keep going, awesome. If not, please let the rest of us know now. TIA.

 

[DCThunder]

It is clear from everything that Tim and Krista and even Wikid have said, that the "intent" of the Play category was to be dramatic or comic, scripted or minor ad libbed, stage plays. It specifically did not include musical plays or operas or anything that didn't take place behind a proscenium arch or an in-the-round theatre or any other form of staging you'd like to devise. My attempt to call a TV documentary a "documentary" ran afoul of this same unwritten intent. A stage "play" can be repeated night after night after night, even with different actors or directors.

A football play, may be "scripted" and "rehersed" but it is not necessarily repeatable. Certainly the Immaculate Reception couldn't be. If you'd chosen the Green Bay Packer Power Sweep or the Redskins Counter Trey, those would be repeatable, but still would not fall within the intent of the category.

Just give it a rest.

Musicals are allowed.

I thought they weren't. OK, strike that part.

 

[thatguy]

Not sure how this pick will stack up against others in its category, but I really want it on my team. It's my favorite HBO series by far, and even though it only went for 3 seasons, I still deem it very worthy of a place in this draft. The dialogue is some of the best I've ever witnessed in any television series and the character development is phenomenal. Truly some of the best characters ever created, movie or television, are brought to life in this amazing series.

Deadwood - Television show

Deadwood is an American western–drama television series created, produced and almost entirely written by David Milch. The series aired on the premium cable network HBO from 21 March 2004 to 27 August 2006, spanning three 12-episode seasons. Set in the 1870s in Deadwood, South Dakota, the show is set before and after the area's annexation by the Dakota Territory. The series charts Deadwood's growth from camp to town, incorporating themes ranging from the formation of communities to western capitalism. The show features a large ensemble cast, and many historical figures—such as Seth Bullock, Al Swearengen, Wild Bill Hickok, Sol Star, Calamity Jane, Wyatt Earp, E. B. Farnum, Charlie Utter, and George Hearst—appear as characters on the show. The plotlines involving these characters include historical truths as well as substantial fictional elements. Some of the characters are fully fictional, although they may have been based on actual persons. Deadwood received wide critical acclaim , won eight Emmy Awards (in 28 nominations) and one Golden Globe. It consistently drew high ratings

Just in case this was missed in the Tim/MB drama....

 

[Yankee23Fan]

It is clear from everything that Tim and Krista and even Wikid have said, that the "intent" of the Play category was to be dramatic or comic, scripted or minor ad libbed, stage plays. It specifically did not include musical plays or operas or anything that didn't take place behind a proscenium arch or an in-the-round theatre or any other form of staging you'd like to devise. My attempt to call a TV documentary a "documentary" ran afoul of this same unwritten intent. A stage "play" can be repeated night after night after night, even with different actors or directors.

A football play, may be "scripted" and "rehersed" but it is not necessarily repeatable. Certainly the Immaculate Reception couldn't be. If you'd chosen the Green Bay Packer Power Sweep or the Redskins Counter Trey, those would be repeatable, but still would not fall within the intent of the category.

Just give it a rest.

Musical theatre is certainly accepted. Operas are more suited to the composition category.

I thought you were leaving? Why come back to post about gay people and fat chicks screaming? Unless, you know.... that's your thing. NTTAWWT. Althought it does make me wonder why you wouldn't allow a football pick - is it because he wasn't a tight end?

 

[Mister CIA]

I'm working on a documentary called Waiting for Shakespeare. It's about a couple of Canadians that watch ESPN all day.

 

[Bob Lee Swagger]

It is clear from everything that Tim and Krista and even Wikid have said, that the "intent" of the Play category was to be dramatic or comic, scripted or minor ad libbed, stage plays. It specifically did not include musical plays or operas or anything that didn't take place behind a proscenium arch or an in-the-round theatre or any other form of staging you'd like to devise. My attempt to call a TV documentary a "documentary" ran afoul of this same unwritten intent. A stage "play" can be repeated night after night after night, even with different actors or directors.A football play, may be "scripted" and "rehersed" but it is not necessarily repeatable. Certainly the Immaculate Reception couldn't be. If you'd chosen the Green Bay Packer Power Sweep or the Redskins Counter Trey, those would be repeatable, but still would not fall within the intent of the category.Just give it a rest.

As we have done with other controversial selections, why don't we just have the plays judge state his criteria for judging? If the pick meets the criteria, allow. If it does not, disallow.I realize that tim is the judge and that there's a huge change that his criteria will be influenced by this debate. However, I think he is a big enough guy to go back and state his criteria retrospectively, as he would have stated them on the first page. I don't think it's likely that the issue of whether a football play could be selected as a "play" would be included in any original criteria, so it shouldn't be in there. Just what constitutes a "play" for tim, in a vacuum.I don't believe that MB is trying to derail the draft. I do believe that he wants his selection taken seriously. I think it should be taken seriously and subjected to the criteria.

 

[sinatravolta]

I've offered my opinions as to why it should be allowed...Tim is just saying "no" and I'm not sure Tim fully believes the selection shouldn't be allowed. I think Tim is afraid that the category won't fall in line with how he believes things should run and allowing my pick will open up the category to different visions.

Tim obviously takes his plays pretty seriously. I haven't read the whole freakin' thread but I remember early on a discussion of how many plays should be included and his arguments for their importance in history etc. and the draft needing 100 plays. For christ's sake, his avatar is Ian McKellan and I don't know what he's acting in but it's not X-Men or LOTR. To Krista's point - he is the one judging plays so you obviously aren't trying to do well by making this pick (and please don't waste everyone's time by saying you shouldn't have to cater to the judges' tastes). Your argument is essentially like if people were picking the top human rights - and you came up with the right turn Jacques Villeneuve made in '97 to win some formula 1 race. And you defended it by saying "well it was a right, right" and "Jacques is a human, correct?" You might be in some technical way correct but anyone doing a reasonable job judging this would award this item last place. So again - why submit this item and persist in arguing for its inclusion? I don't know if Tim has been particularly annoying to lead to this or not, but I can see why he'd find your arguments on this annoying.

 

[krista4]

skipped picks17.19 Tirnan 18.02 Tirnan18.07 Misfitblondes - needs a repick18.09 Mister CIA - auto skip remainder of draft18.10 El Floppo - autoskip (this turn only)18.11 Thatguy18.13 Tides of War18.14 BobbyLayne on the clock until 3:5718.15 Abrantes 18.16 Doug B18.17 Timschochet18.18 Postradamus18.19 Rodg18.20 krista419.01 Fennis19.02 Rodg19.03 Postradamus19.04 Timschochet19.05 Doug B19.06 Abrantes 19.07 BobbyLayne19.08 Tides of War19.09 Wikkidpissah19.10 Thatguy 19.11 El Floppo 19.12 Team CIA19.13 Uncle Humana 19.14 Misfit Blondes 19.15 Bob Lee Swagger19.16 Scott Norwood19.17 DC Thunder19.18 Genedoc 19.19 Tirnan 19.20 Yankee23Fan 20.01 Yankee23Fan 20.02 Tirnan 20.03 Genedoc20.04 DC Thunder20.05 ScottNorwood

Moving this down the page; it looks like BL has timed out and Abrantes is up.I'm about to send my pick to Fennis. I hope he's going to be around but haven't heard from him. Since he picks right after me I'll send to him anyway.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

skipped picks

17.19 Tirnan

18.02 Tirnan

18.07 Misfitblondes - needs a repick

18.09 Mister CIA - auto skip remainder of draft

18.10 El Floppo - autoskip (this turn only)

18.13 Tides of War

18.14 BobbyLayne

18.15 Abrantes - on the clock until 4:57

18.16 Doug B

18.17 Timschochet

18.18 Postradamus

18.19 Rodg

18.20 krista4

19.01 Fennis

19.02 Rodg

19.03 Postradamus

19.04 Timschochet

19.05 Doug B

19.06 Abrantes

19.07 BobbyLayne

19.08 Tides of War

19.09 Wikkidpissah

19.10 Thatguy

19.11 El Floppo

19.12 Team CIA

19.13 Uncle Humana

19.14 Misfit Blondes

19.15 Bob Lee Swagger

19.16 Scott Norwood

19.17 DC Thunder

19.18 Genedoc

19.19 Tirnan

19.20 Yankee23Fan

20.01 Yankee23Fan

20.02 Tirnan

20.03 Genedoc

20.04 DC Thunder

20.05 ScottNorwood

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Abrantes pick via PM:

18.15 Bete Giyorgis, Lalibela (Building/Structure)

I could've likely waited on this one for a while longer, but it's just so damn cool that I refuse to. This cross-shaped marvel was painstakingly carved and built out of the ground itself. One solid pillar of stone. I can scarcely imagine how long it took or how detailed their work had to be. A testament to human faith and dedication.

The Church of St. George (Amharic: Bete Giyorgis?) is a monolithic church in Lalibela, Amhara Region, Ethiopia. It is the most well known and last built (early thirteenth century) of the eleven churches in the Lalibela area, and has been referred to as the "Eighth Wonder of the World". The dimensions of the complex are 25 meters by 25 meters by 30 meters, and there is a small baptismal pool outside the church, which stands in an artificial trench.

According to Ethiopian cultural history, Bete Giyorgis was built after King Gebre Mesqel Lalibela of the Zagwe dynasty had a vision in which he was instructed to construct the church; Saint George and God have both been referred to as the one who gave him the instructions.

As of 2006, Lalibela is still a pilgrimage site for members of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church; the church itself is part of the UNESCO World Heritage Site "Rock-Hewn Churches, Lalibela".

View from aboveBete Giyorgis

Wider shot

 

[Yankee23Fan]

skipped picks

17.19 Tirnan

18.02 Tirnan

18.07 Misfitblondes - needs a repick

18.09 Mister CIA - auto skip remainder of draft

18.10 El Floppo - autoskip (this turn only)

18.13 Tides of War

18.14 BobbyLayne

18.16 Doug B - OTC until 5:02

18.17 Timschochet

18.18 Postradamus

18.19 Rodg

18.20 krista4

19.01 Fennis

19.02 Rodg

19.03 Postradamus

19.04 Timschochet

19.05 Doug B

19.06 Abrantes

19.07 BobbyLayne

19.08 Tides of War

19.09 Wikkidpissah

19.10 Thatguy

19.11 El Floppo

19.12 Team CIA

19.13 Uncle Humana

19.14 Misfit Blondes

19.15 Bob Lee Swagger

19.16 Scott Norwood

19.17 DC Thunder

19.18 Genedoc

19.19 Tirnan

19.20 Yankee23Fan

20.01 Yankee23Fan

20.02 Tirnan

20.03 Genedoc

20.04 DC Thunder

20.05 ScottNorwood

 

[mad sweeney]

It is clear from everything that Tim and Krista and even Wikid have said, that the "intent" of the Play category was to be dramatic or comic, scripted or minor ad libbed, stage plays. It specifically did not include musical plays or operas or anything that didn't take place behind a proscenium arch or an in-the-round theatre or any other form of staging you'd like to devise. My attempt to call a TV documentary a "documentary" ran afoul of this same unwritten intent. A stage "play" can be repeated night after night after night, even with different actors or directors.

A football play, may be "scripted" and "rehersed" but it is not necessarily repeatable. Certainly the Immaculate Reception couldn't be. If you'd chosen the Green Bay Packer Power Sweep or the Redskins Counter Trey, those would be repeatable, but still would not fall within the intent of the category.

Just give it a rest.

Musicals are allowed.

I thought they weren't. OK, strike that part.

Also Krista said early on that TV documentaries were to be left out of the documentary category so you can strike another part of the intent argument.

 

[mad sweeney]

I've offered my opinions as to why it should be allowed...Tim is just saying "no" and I'm not sure Tim fully believes the selection shouldn't be allowed. I think Tim is afraid that the category won't fall in line with how he believes things should run and allowing my pick will open up the category to different visions.

Tim obviously takes his plays pretty seriously. I haven't read the whole freakin' thread but I remember early on a discussion of how many plays should be included and his arguments for their importance in history etc. and the draft needing 100 plays. For christ's sake, his avatar is Ian McKellan and I don't know what he's acting in but it's not X-Men or LOTR. To Krista's point - he is the one judging plays so you obviously aren't trying to do well by making this pick (and please don't waste everyone's time by saying you shouldn't have to cater to the judges' tastes). Your argument is essentially like if people were picking the top human rights - and you came up with the right turn Jacques Villeneuve made in '97 to win some formula 1 race. And you defended it by saying "well it was a right, right" and "Jacques is a human, correct?" You might be in some technical way correct but anyone doing a reasonable job judging this would award this item last place. So again - why submit this item and persist in arguing for its inclusion?

I don't know if Tim has been particularly annoying to lead to this or not, but I can see why he'd find your arguments on this annoying.

His avatar is actually Peter O'Toole in My Favorite Year.

 

[sinatravolta]

His avatar is actually Peter O'Toole in My Favorite Year.

Thank you. I think the point fits at least as well.

 

[rodg12]

I'll be out much of the day tomorrow -- please put me on auto-skip.

Doug is on auto-skip.Tim is also on auto-skip.

Postradamus is up.

 

[mad sweeney]

Not sure how this pick will stack up against others in its category, but I really want it on my team. It's my favorite HBO series by far, and even though it only went for 3 seasons, I still deem it very worthy of a place in this draft. The dialogue is some of the best I've ever witnessed in any television series and the character development is phenomenal. Truly some of the best characters ever created, movie or television, are brought to life in this amazing series.

Deadwood - Television show

Deadwood is an American western–drama television series created, produced and almost entirely written by David Milch. The series aired on the premium cable network HBO from 21 March 2004 to 27 August 2006, spanning three 12-episode seasons. Set in the 1870s in Deadwood, South Dakota, the show is set before and after the area's annexation by the Dakota Territory. The series charts Deadwood's growth from camp to town, incorporating themes ranging from the formation of communities to western capitalism. The show features a large ensemble cast, and many historical figures—such as Seth Bullock, Al Swearengen, Wild Bill Hickok, Sol Star, Calamity Jane, Wyatt Earp, E. B. Farnum, Charlie Utter, and George Hearst—appear as characters on the show. The plotlines involving these characters include historical truths as well as substantial fictional elements. Some of the characters are fully fictional, although they may have been based on actual persons. Deadwood received wide critical acclaim , won eight Emmy Awards (in 28 nominations) and one Golden Globe. It consistently drew high ratings

Just in case this was missed in the Tim/MB drama....

I think it would be adecent pick but for a few things. One of them being it was cancelled without ever finishing their storylines. Second being that by mid season 2 they made such a big deal about the language that it became the main character. So much story telling time was wasted with dialogue meant to be "authentic" and "clever" but failed to move the plot along and/or add something to the characters. The third season was for the most part unwatchable. I continuously wiated, mostly in vain, for something to happen and never got my wish. The palpable sense of menace the Swearengen had for most of two seasons was gone as was my curious affinity for their take on foul language and bluntness. IMO, the first season can hang with any season of any show, but it died off to the end.I did work on the show a good amount though One of my favorite Directors of Photography made it a joy to work on, though you had to be one that can hang with his humor. Sadly, his Celtic fondness for drink took him too early. The exec producer was also one of the coolest to work with as well and by far the most crew friendly producer ever. Extra money for catering and other food as well as about $2500 in giveaway cash at lunch on Fridays via pulling names out of hats. Made it a lot more tolerable to be out in Canyon Country working in the muddy horse#### for 14 hours a day, especially since HBO still has a lower than scale rate because it's on cable (something we're still trying to fix and that Showtime has voluntarily fixed).

I also think the 1st 3 episodes are some of the best looking out there, mainly for it's use of the dark which had the network guys crapping thier pants. You can see it get brighter in the shadows and more fill on the faces throughout the first 3 episodes until it got to a more accepted look. but I really liked they way those first ones lookesd.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

skipped picks

17.19 Tirnan

18.02 Tirnan

18.07 Misfitblondes - needs a repick

18.09 Mister CIA - auto skip remainder of draft

18.10 El Floppo - autoskip (this turn only)

18.13 Tides of War

18.14 BobbyLayne

18.16 Doug B - auto skip

18.17 Timschochet - auto skip

18.18 Postradamus - OTC

18.19 Rodg

18.20 krista4

19.01 Fennis

19.02 Rodg

19.03 Postradamus

19.04 Timschochet

19.05 Doug B

19.06 Abrantes

19.07 BobbyLayne

19.08 Tides of War

19.09 Wikkidpissah

19.10 Thatguy

19.11 El Floppo

19.12 Team CIA

19.13 Uncle Humana

19.14 Misfit Blondes

19.15 Bob Lee Swagger

19.16 Scott Norwood

19.17 DC Thunder

19.18 Genedoc

19.19 Tirnan

19.20 Yankee23Fan

20.01 Yankee23Fan

20.02 Tirnan

20.03 Genedoc

20.04 DC Thunder

20.05 ScottNorwood

 

[krista4]

Can someone else take my pick in the next five minutes since I haven't heard from Fennis? Preferably not post or rodg in case we have the same pick.

 

[Postradamus]

Oh goody I get to pick. A fitting selection for the current state of the draft:

In the state of nature, every man has a right to every thing, even to one another's body but the second law is that, in order to secure the advantages of peace, that a man be willing, when others are so too… to lay down this right to all things; and be contented with so much liberty against other men as he would allow other men against himself.



18.18 Leviathan - Thomas Hobbes -Non-Fiction

Wiki

Leviathan, The Matter, Forme and Power of a Common Wealth Ecclesiasticall and Civil, commonly called Leviathan, is a book written by Thomas Hobbes which was published in 1651. It is titled after the biblical Leviathan. The book concerns the structure of society and legitimate government, and is regarded as one of the earliest and most influential examples of social contract theory.

 

[Postradamus]

Can someone else take my pick in the next five minutes since I haven't heard from Fennis? Preferably not post or rodg in case we have the same pick.

I can do it now...

 

[Big Rocks]

Can someone else take my pick in the next five minutes since I haven't heard from Fennis? Preferably not post or rodg in case we have the same pick.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

I'd love to go with an arts category here, as I have a couple I don't want to get by me, but I would without this and am shocked it's still on the board. Simply the most incredible site I've ever seen in person. We'll see in September if it's replaced by Machu Picchu in that statement.

6.20 Angkor (Building/Structure)

When we visited for a few days last July, Oliver Humanzee managed to take 700 pictures in one day and a couple thousand in total. There are over 1000 temples in the ruins, including the temple of Angkor Wat(the world's largest religious monument) and my favorite, the Bayon Temple.

Sorry for delay. I was searching through and was going to use our own pictures for this one, but it was going to take too long so I gave up.

Wat?

 

[krista4]

Can someone else take my pick in the next five minutes since I haven't heard from Fennis? Preferably not post or rodg in case we have the same pick.

Thank you, GB. On its way.

 

[krista4]

I'd love to go with an arts category here, as I have a couple I don't want to get by me, but I would without this and am shocked it's still on the board. Simply the most incredible site I've ever seen in person. We'll see in September if it's replaced by Machu Picchu in that statement.

6.20 Angkor (Building/Structure)

When we visited for a few days last July, Oliver Humanzee managed to take 700 pictures in one day and a couple thousand in total. There are over 1000 temples in the ruins, including the temple of Angkor Wat(the world's largest religious monument) and my favorite, the Bayon Temple.

Sorry for delay. I was searching through and was going to use our own pictures for this one, but it was going to take too long so I gave up.

Wat?

 

[SKribbles]

Wow. MisfitBlondes is really getting the shaft here. How is a sporting event not considered a play?

Script AKA playbook

Stage AKA field

Audience AKA audience

Actors AKA players

Writers AKA Coaches

Without having read the entire thread and based on Timscohoet's reaction, I'd say that MisfitBlonde is running away with this draft and some people don't like it. Nothing like some biased judging to ruin the greatest draft ever.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Wow. MisfitBlondes is really getting the shaft here. How is a sporting event not considered a play?

Script AKA playbook

Stage AKA field

Audience AKA audience

Actors AKA players

Writers AKA Coaches

Without having read the entire thread and based on Timscohoet's reaction, I'd say that MisfitBlonde is running away with this draft and some people don't like it. Nothing like some biased judging to ruin the greatest draft ever.

 

[SKribbles]

Wow. MisfitBlondes is really getting the shaft here. How is a sporting event not considered a play?

Script AKA playbook

Stage AKA field

Audience AKA audience

Actors AKA players

Writers AKA Coaches

Without having read the entire thread and based on Timscohoet's reaction, I'd say that MisfitBlonde is running away with this draft and some people don't like it. Nothing like some biased judging to ruin the greatest draft ever.

 

[sinatravolta]

I think it would be adecent pick but for a few things. One of them being it was cancelled without ever finishing their storylines. Second being that by mid season 2 they made such a big deal about the language that it became the main character. So much story telling time was wasted with dialogue meant to be "authentic" and "clever" but failed to move the plot along and/or add something to the characters. The third season was for the most part unwatchable. I continuously wiated, mostly in vain, for something to happen and never got my wish. The palpable sense of menace the Swearengen had for most of two seasons was gone as was my curious affinity for their take on foul language and bluntness. IMO, the first season can hang with any season of any show, but it died off to the end.I did work on the show a good amount though One of my favorite Directors of Photography made it a joy to work on, though you had to be one that can hang with his humor. Sadly, his Celtic fondness for drink took him too early. The exec producer was also one of the coolest to work with as well and by far the most crew friendly producer ever. Extra money for catering and other food as well as about $2500 in giveaway cash at lunch on Fridays via pulling names out of hats. Made it a lot more tolerable to be out in Canyon Country working in the muddy horse#### for 14 hours a day, especially since HBO still has a lower than scale rate because it's on cable (something we're still trying to fix and that Showtime has voluntarily fixed).I also think the 1st 3 episodes are some of the best looking out there, mainly for it's use of the dark which had the network guys crapping thier pants. You can see it get brighter in the shadows and more fill on the faces throughout the first 3 episodes until it got to a more accepted look. but I really liked they way those first ones lookesd.

I think it's a good pick. The 1st season I think is better than any other season of a TV show. I agree the others weren't as good - but I definitely don't think it got unwatchable - I thought it was still well done. That's pretty cool that you worked on the show Mad Sweeney.

 

[rodg12]

Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears.......

18.19 - Julius Caesar - William Shakespeare - Play

The last remaining of my favorite Shakespeare plays.

Et tu Brute?

Wiki

 

[Big Rocks]

I have Krista's pick, but not sure if she's still here. I'll wait a few moments just in case.

 

[krista4]

I'm still here waiting for cab; I can post, Big Rocks.

I'm really struggling with the poem category, because there are a few other modern poets whose work I'd like to recognize, but I also don't feel like I can let this one pass me by.

Stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone,

Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone,

Silence the pianos and with muffled drum

Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come.

Let aeroplanes circle moaning overhead

Scribbling on the sky the message He is Dead.

Put crepe bows round the white necks of the public doves,

Let the traffic policemen wear black cotton gloves.

He was my North, my South, my East and West,

My working week and my Sunday rest,

My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;

I thought that love would last forever: I was wrong.

The stars are not wanted now; put out every one,

Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun,

Pour away the ocean and sweep up the wood;

For nothing now can ever come to any good.

For my selection, I choose the most beautiful representation of the devastation of human loss ever written:

18.20 Funeral Blues - W.H. Auden (poem)

Please ignore the fact that it was read in Four Weddings as a Funeral. Interesting tidbit, though--the first two stanzas were originally written as satire on the death of a politician.

 

[Bonzai]

Oh goody I get to pick. A fitting selection for the current state of the draft:

In the state of nature, every man has a right to every thing, even to one another's body but the second law is that, in order to secure the advantages of peace, that a man be willing, when others are so too… to lay down this right to all things; and be contented with so much liberty against other men as he would allow other men against himself.



18.18 Leviathan - Thomas Hobbes -Non-Fiction

Wiki

Leviathan, The Matter, Forme and Power of a Common Wealth Ecclesiasticall and Civil, commonly called Leviathan, is a book written by Thomas Hobbes which was published in 1651. It is titled after the biblical Leviathan. The book concerns the structure of society and legitimate government, and is regarded as one of the earliest and most influential examples of social contract theory.

Nice one. On the short list.

 

[Mr. Littlejeans]

Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears.......

18.19 - Julius Caesar - William Shakespeare - Play

The last remaining of my favorite Shakespeare plays.

E tu Brute?

Wiki

I've never heard of these guys. CFL? Arena2?

 

[krista4]

I have Krista's pick, but not sure if she's still here. I'll wait a few moments just in case.

 

[mad sweeney]

Wow. MisfitBlondes is really getting the shaft here. How is a sporting event not considered a play?

Script AKA playbook

Stage AKA field

Audience AKA audience

Actors AKA players

Writers AKA Coaches

Without having read the entire thread and based on Timscohoet's reaction, I'd say that MisfitBlonde is running away with this draft and some people don't like it. Nothing like some biased judging to ruin the greatest draft ever.

How about you and the other aliases run away and bug some other thread. I stand behind Tim in this, I wouldn't have given an explanation for why it's vetoed for the same reason I wouldn't give an explanation for why 2+2 doesn't equal 5. MB has a history of throwing a doosh wrench into these drafts and wants to play it cute here too. Like when TO was trying to say he never said Gacia was gay because he never used the exact words "Jeff Garcia is gay". A football play is not the intent and only someone trying to be an ### would make an argument for anything otherwise. So why don't you and the few posters who haven't posted in here until they came in here to bag on Tim for this go away and stop ruining the thread for the rest of us.

 

[DCThunder]

I also think the 1st 3 episodes are some of the best looking out there, mainly for it's use of the dark which had the network guys crapping thier pants. You can see it get brighter in the shadows and more fill on the faces throughout the first 3 episodes until it got to a more accepted look. but I really liked they way those first ones lookesd.

Is darkness a new trend amongst TV videographers? Lots of cable dramas seem much darker lately. And the dialogue is also much muddier. Sons of Anarchy specifically come to mind if you've seen that show.

 

[Bonzai]

Here come the jocks to kick 12 sided dice away from the D&D nerds. Don't worry tim, a dungeon master must be firm.

 

[SKribbles]

Wow. MisfitBlondes is really getting the shaft here. How is a sporting event not considered a play?

Script AKA playbook

Stage AKA field

Audience AKA audience

Actors AKA players

Writers AKA Coaches

Without having read the entire thread and based on Timscohoet's reaction, I'd say that MisfitBlonde is running away with this draft and some people don't like it. Nothing like some biased judging to ruin the greatest draft ever.

How about you and the other aliases run away and bug some other thread. I stand behind Tim in this, I wouldn't have given an explanation for why it's vetoed for the same reason I wouldn't give an explanation for why 2+2 doesn't equal 5. MB has a history of throwing a doosh wrench into these drafts and wants to play it cute here too. Like when TO was trying to say he never said Gacia was gay because he never used the exact words "Jeff Garcia is gay". A football play is not the intent and only someone trying to be an ### would make an argument for anything otherwise. So why don't you and the few posters who haven't posted in here until they came in here to bag on Tim for this go away and stop ruining the thread for the rest of us.

No sure who my other aliases are but looks to me like Tim is ruining the thread for MB.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Here come the jocks to kick 12 dice away from the D&D nerds. Don't worry tim, a dungeon master must be firm.

People still play D&D? (I thought they called it World of Warcraft now.)

 

[Bonzai]

Wow. MisfitBlondes is really getting the shaft here. How is a sporting event not considered a play?

Script AKA playbook

Stage AKA field

Audience AKA audience

Actors AKA players

Writers AKA Coaches

Without having read the entire thread and based on Timscohoet's reaction, I'd say that MisfitBlonde is running away with this draft and some people don't like it. Nothing like some biased judging to ruin the greatest draft ever.

How about you and the other aliases run away and bug some other thread. I stand behind Tim in this, I wouldn't have given an explanation for why it's vetoed for the same reason I wouldn't give an explanation for why 2+2 doesn't equal 5. MB has a history of throwing a doosh wrench into these drafts and wants to play it cute here too. Like when TO was trying to say he never said Gacia was gay because he never used the exact words "Jeff Garcia is gay". A football play is not the intent and only someone trying to be an ### would make an argument for anything otherwise. So why don't you and the few posters who haven't posted in here until they came in here to bag on Tim for this go away and stop ruining the thread for the rest of us.

It was always my understanding that Imp had a legacy of being friendly and reasonable.

 

[thatguy]

MB has a history of throwing a doosh wrench into these drafts and wants to play it cute here too.

What exactly is this "history" you speak of?

I believe your pick to be genuine, FWIW. You got a little cute with this pick, you got a little cute with your rankings in the WGD, but you did this based on your own personal interpretations of the categories - not with malice on your mind - and Tim automatically assumes the worst. Not only does he assume, though, he convinces himself that he knows your intentions, which is pretty richard on his part. That said, while I believe it was a genuine selection, I tend to agree that it should be disallowed based on the intended spirit of the category.

 

[ScottNorwood]

a juicy bone

hehehehehehe