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***Official*** Green Bay Packers Offseason Thread, v. 2014 (1 Viewer)

The Peppers signing is questionable. You get an average player who just wanted that one, last contract before retirement.

Jeff Saturday, part deux.
Question...even at one of his worst seasons where he still started every game and had 7.5 sacks.

Is that an improvement over what GB had in the defensive front?

And I believe Saturday was about 36 when he was with GB.
If Peppers were a high-motor guy, I could see dropping some bank on him for a year or two. But in addition to his age, there are questions about his passion now or whether he still has that drive-- and now you're asking him to learn a whole new system when he knows he's not going to see years 2 and 3 of his contract.

If the Pack was one DE away from a Superbowl run, then maybe it would make sense to at least take a shot. But if he turns out to be just "a guy" along that front this season, which I think he will be, then at best GB's line stayed the same-- except at the cost of $8.5 million. The cost vs benefit is the questionable part.

The deal, to me, just screams of TT saying, "Look! I do stuff in FA!"
I think I asked a pretty simple question.

Not sure how adding a guy of Peppers' talent makes him the same. I don't think he is just a guy at all...at least he never has been in his career really.

Again...a bad year and he still would have tied for 1st on our defense in sacks.

The deal to me screams...veteran player, at least is talking like he has something to prove...low risk for an older player who has been able to put pressure on team's QBs. Something the Packers needed.

Your opinion on what the deal screams seems to indicate nothing TT could do would be good enough for you.

 
What the Peppers signing has done has opened up their draft a bit.

They don't need to chase a pass rusher early on.

This actually opens them up to someone like Mosely more...one of the safeties (though, I may have said I read where they are not as high on Pryor and Clinton-Dix as some are)...or gulp, making me really eat my words and picking a TE earlier than I think (still think that is a remote thing).

But it also seems to open up my thought that somewhere around the 3rd-4th round we see a WR (if Jones is not back).

 
I'm guessing there are a lot of NFL teams that would love to be as "unsuccessful" as the Packers.
Not with Rodgers as a qb. Have the Bengals been successful the last 3 years? Not really and they weren't coming off a super bowl victory.
How successful then have the Pats been with Brady?, the Saints with Brees?
Brady has been the starting QB for 12 seasons, the Patriots have failed to make it to the AFC Championship in only 4 of those seasons. That is extremely successful.

I think you could ask any Saints fan and they would agree that post super bowl, they've been unsuccessful. 4 seasons post super bowl, lost in divisional round twice, WC round once, failed to make the playoffs once.
And yet the Saints approach is what some Packer fans are advocating TT do. They've been very active in free agency the last few years. Both teams are similar. Both have very good offenses with an offensive minded head coach. Both struggle on defense. Their playoff history in the last few years is pretty similar with both teams winning a Super Bowl. The difference is that TT chooses to build through the draft and retain his own free agents. The Saints have utilized free agency. Both methods work, however, it should be pointed out that the Saints were forced to make several moves this year to stay under the salary cap. Packers are comfortably under the cap with room to make more moves or extend Nelson and/or Cobb.

 
Other interesting thing...the Packers are quite tight lipped. You don't get huge leaks about them til after the fact on some things.

Peppers got into town, sat down, and signed before anything was leaked about them even being interested in him.

Sort of impressed by how that happens in a time with all the cameras and social media everywhere.

 
I'm guessing there are a lot of NFL teams that would love to be as "unsuccessful" as the Packers.
Not with Rodgers as a qb. Have the Bengals been successful the last 3 years? Not really and they weren't coming off a super bowl victory.
How successful then have the Pats been with Brady?, the Saints with Brees?
Brady has been the starting QB for 12 seasons, the Patriots have failed to make it to the AFC Championship in only 4 of those seasons. That is extremely successful.

I think you could ask any Saints fan and they would agree that post super bowl, they've been unsuccessful. 4 seasons post super bowl, lost in divisional round twice, WC round once, failed to make the playoffs once.
Not really with you on this one TDMills. Since Rodgers took over as QB in 2009, both the Packers and the Patriots have made the playoffs 5/6 years. The Packers are 5-4 in playoff games including one Super Bowl win. The Patriots are 4-5 without a Super Bowl win. The Saints made the playoffs 4/6 years, and are 5-3 with a Super Bowl win.

I'd bet nearly every Patriot player, coach or fan would trade the their last 6 seasons for the Packers or Saints. IMO it doesn't matter when you lose in the playoffs, Fact is, you still lost.

 
brohans if peppers brings the pepper spice like he used to then him and the claymaker are going to make our dbacks look a lot better than they are because they will not have to defend llike they did last year which was for as long as the qb wanted to taake until he threw the ball beecause our pass rush was so horrible i am also hoping that they can get some quick lbs to actually cover the corners in the draft and then that raji returns to the belly dancer form he once had and then that they actually find a center because right now i do not even know if they have one and i liked eds that guy was a mauler and we need more of that at least we will not have jeff crapurday as our center at least take that to the bank bromigos

 
sho nuff said:
The Peppers signing is questionable. You get an average player who just wanted that one, last contract before retirement.

Jeff Saturday, part deux.
Question...even at one of his worst seasons where he still started every game and had 7.5 sacks.

Is that an improvement over what GB had in the defensive front?

And I believe Saturday was about 36 when he was with GB.
If Peppers were a high-motor guy, I could see dropping some bank on him for a year or two. But in addition to his age, there are questions about his passion now or whether he still has that drive-- and now you're asking him to learn a whole new system when he knows he's not going to see years 2 and 3 of his contract.

If the Pack was one DE away from a Superbowl run, then maybe it would make sense to at least take a shot. But if he turns out to be just "a guy" along that front this season, which I think he will be, then at best GB's line stayed the same-- except at the cost of $8.5 million. The cost vs benefit is the questionable part.

The deal, to me, just screams of TT saying, "Look! I do stuff in FA!"
I think I asked a pretty simple question.

Not sure how adding a guy of Peppers' talent makes him the same. I don't think he is just a guy at all...at least he never has been in his career really.

Again...a bad year and he still would have tied for 1st on our defense in sacks.

The deal to me screams...veteran player, at least is talking like he has something to prove...low risk for an older player who has been able to put pressure on team's QBs. Something the Packers needed.

Your opinion on what the deal screams seems to indicate nothing TT could do would be good enough for you.
Close. My opinion, as I've already stated but will highlight key points:

1) A DE who used to be considered a Pro-Bowl player is not the same player now. It doesn't take scout-like skills to see that.

2) His 7 sacks ranked 46th in the NFL 2013. That anyone would be excited by that shows just how horrid our defense was.

3) He is now 34 years old and learning a new system. How motivated is he really?

Implying that I don't like the Peppers signing and think it was a knee-jerk reaction does not mean "nothing" TT does would be good enough. I'm a huge fan of his, but I do think he's having a pretty crappy offseason. There were a few players that could have helped GB (already have been discussed in this thread), and none of them were signed. Instead, Shields gets overpaid and now TT signs a stop-gap DE at $8.5 million.

One possibility that I hadn't considered is that Peppers may be a mentor to some of the younger DL players, but again-- is that worth $8.5 mil?

So far, we've stayed the same on defense and taken a step back on offense unless JJ (or similar skill WR) comes back.

It would be an understatement to say Ted needs a good draft.

 
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1. Sure. But he doesn't have to be the same player now.

2. 7.5. I think many teams would like adding that (out of his worst year actually) to a defense that already has a guy like Matthews on it.

3. Sure he is. Seems he is quite motivated by everything he has said.

I think some other things you have said lead me to believe there is little TT could do to make you happy.

Seems many here think they know more of who can help (and how to manage the cap) than Thompson and Ball do. Is he perfect? No...but I think many ignore all the cap ramifications going forward for what they think they should do.

Shields got paid market value for a player of his talent.

How does adding a guy like Peppers make this defense stay the same?

And why is everything just a step back on offense. 2nd year of Lacy...Franklin may get more involved. Boykin showed he was fine. Cobb and Nelson back healthy (at least to start the year).

Because Jones won't be back? I like the guy and all, but the fact that there seems to be little market for him again seems to blow that one out of the water.

Finley? The guy who has didn't play a full season last year and was out the year they won it all?

And if there is one area I think we can all agree not to worry about Thompson finding someone, its WR.

Seems to me the improved part of the defense and the offense is not much different than it was last year.

Plus getting Matthews back from the thumb (since he was out in the playoffs).

 
I believe Green Bay needs 3 solid WRs and a stud TE, or... 4 solid WRs and a "just a guy" TE, to get back into the elite team category and keep Rodgers happy. I see the same trend taking place here that I saw when we watched Favre's weapons whittle away piece by piece inexcusably.

Quarless is "just a guy". He is the epitome of a nice TE2 to have, but he is not starter material.

Now you also take out Jones and Green Bay's offense takes a step back from last season. Nelson, Cobb and Boykin is another step down from Nelson, Cobb, Jones, Finley (basically a WR) and Boykin, which was already a step down from Jennings, Nelson, Cobb, Jones, Finley and Driver.

You can't keep taking pieces away from this passing game and expect it to continue to be as effective, and you sure as hell can't ask for much more from Lacy. I'm amazed the guy held up... Expecting that 2 years in a row is really asking a lot.

 
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I believe Green Bay needs 3 solid WRs and a stud TE, or... 4 solid WRs and a "just a guy" TE, to get back into the elite team category and keep Rodgers happy. I see the same trend taking place here that I saw when we watched Favre's weapons whittle away piece by piece inexcusably.

Quarless is "just a guy". He is the epitome of a nice TE2 to have, but he is not starter material.

Now you also take out Jones and Green Bay's offense takes a step back from last season. Nelson, Cobb and Boykin is another step down from Nelson, Cobb, Jones, Finley (basically a WR) and Boykin, which was already a step down from Jennings, Nelson, Cobb, Jones, Finley and Driver.

You can't keep taking pieces away from this passing game and expect it to continue to be as effective, and you sure as hell can't ask for much more from Lacy. I'm amazed the guy held up... Expecting that 2 years in a row is really asking a lot.
I think we have 3 solid WRs right now.

Why do they need a stud TE too?

They didn't have all that when they won a SB...and now they may actually have a stud RB that they didn't actually have.

Tell me what stud TEs have been winning SBs...why is that a necessity now?

I don't think this is anything like Favre's time when weapons were getting depleted at one point (and then expanded again in his last years).

That and people realize what is needed to win is not necessarily studs out there when the QB can make them better.

I think they will draft a WR around rounds 3-4 this season (not a bad draft for WRs either).

How can it be a step down from Nelson, Cobb, Jones, and Finley...when 2 of those 4 didn't play a majority of the games last year.

2 of the 4 were not around for the SB run either (Finley was out remember...and that "just a guy" TE did ok).

Nobody is saying take pieces away and add nothing...they added Lacy last year..Boykin came on just fine and stepped up and played well. And again, I have zero fear of TT being able to find another WR if Jones isn't back. Nor is Jones a guy they should be getting in any bidding wars over (especially knowing Nelson and Cobb would be more important to be able to resign).

You seem to want a lot of things...but have zero clue how they would be able to pay for all of them.

Tell me how they can pay for Jones, Cobb, Nelson, a stud TE...still keep the OL together or improve it...and try to do all the things you want them to do on D?

I won't hold my breath for a real answer to that one.

 
TT apparently rejects age and scheme specificity parameters when signing a 34 yr old career long 4-3 DE to play the 3-4. Best solice I can share is that it's only 8.5 gtd and he's gone in a year.

 
I am interested to see which WR TT decides to extend and which one he lets walk. My guess is Joedy stays and Cobb is allowed to leave.

Definitely see pack going WR early this draft.

 
TT apparently rejects age and scheme specificity parameters when signing a 34 yr old career long 4-3 DE to play the 3-4. Best solice I can share is that it's only 8.5 gtd and he's gone in a year.
And yet Peppers has said he has always wanted to play in a 3-4 since his days in Carolina. He is looking forward to showing his versatility.

 
I am interested to see which WR TT decides to extend and which one he lets walk. My guess is Joedy stays and Cobb is allowed to leave.

Definitely see pack going WR early this draft.
Jordy is older. Letting Cobb walk would be really dumb.
I would think price will be a factor.
Of course it will. But you don't draft a guy like Cobb in the 2nd if you plan to let his rookie contract expire.
 
I am interested to see which WR TT decides to extend and which one he lets walk. My guess is Joedy stays and Cobb is allowed to leave.

Definitely see pack going WR early this draft.
Dollar wise that would be the value.

I think Cobb is more dynamic though...and as much as I like Jordy...neither age nor versatility are on his side.

 
Truly the dog-days of the NFL off-season. Have a good spring / summer gents. I'm looking forward to another great Packer season this fall.

 
A good cap manager doesn't let a quality young player walk
So you think Jordy should walk and Cobb should be resigned? They are both going to get good money, with Cobb getting the most. After playing at a discount, Jordy isn't going to come cheap either. It is not wise to throw wide receiver # 1 money at two receceivers, so one has to go.

 
IMHO, nelson } Cobb

Packers offense is more than good enough if the pack can field a defense. When favre. Won the Superbowl, he did not have great recievers. He did have a great defense.

Peppers will be fine in the 3-4, which he has played in.

The packers now have one dline signed. There is a huge way to go. Unless and until they get a dline signed, the packers are never going to win the superbowl

The offense is fine. Fix the freaking defense

 
I think they can sign both WRs. My guess is that they could get Jordy to agree to a Decker like deal right now. 7-8 million/year. Cobb would probably command a bit more. Probably 9/year. With the salary cap projections, I think they can make that work.

 
I believe Green Bay needs 3 solid WRs and a stud TE, or... 4 solid WRs and a "just a guy" TE, to get back into the elite team category and keep Rodgers happy. I see the same trend taking place here that I saw when we watched Favre's weapons whittle away piece by piece inexcusably.

Quarless is "just a guy". He is the epitome of a nice TE2 to have, but he is not starter material.

Now you also take out Jones and Green Bay's offense takes a step back from last season. Nelson, Cobb and Boykin is another step down from Nelson, Cobb, Jones, Finley (basically a WR) and Boykin, which was already a step down from Jennings, Nelson, Cobb, Jones, Finley and Driver.

You can't keep taking pieces away from this passing game and expect it to continue to be as effective, and you sure as hell can't ask for much more from Lacy. I'm amazed the guy held up... Expecting that 2 years in a row is really asking a lot.
I think we have 3 solid WRs right now.

Why do they need a stud TE too?

They didn't have all that when they won a SB...and now they may actually have a stud RB that they didn't actually have.

Tell me what stud TEs have been winning SBs...why is that a necessity now?

I don't think this is anything like Favre's time when weapons were getting depleted at one point (and then expanded again in his last years).

That and people realize what is needed to win is not necessarily studs out there when the QB can make them better.

I think they will draft a WR around rounds 3-4 this season (not a bad draft for WRs either).

How can it be a step down from Nelson, Cobb, Jones, and Finley...when 2 of those 4 didn't play a majority of the games last year.

2 of the 4 were not around for the SB run either (Finley was out remember...and that "just a guy" TE did ok).

Nobody is saying take pieces away and add nothing...they added Lacy last year..Boykin came on just fine and stepped up and played well. And again, I have zero fear of TT being able to find another WR if Jones isn't back. Nor is Jones a guy they should be getting in any bidding wars over (especially knowing Nelson and Cobb would be more important to be able to resign).

You seem to want a lot of things...but have zero clue how they would be able to pay for all of them.

Tell me how they can pay for Jones, Cobb, Nelson, a stud TE...still keep the OL together or improve it...and try to do all the things you want them to do on D?

I won't hold my breath for a real answer to that one.
I think we're going back and forth needlessly here as we're not going to change each others' minds. I think Green Bay needs 4-5 solid pass-catchers to run the kind of offense that they should be running with the best QB in the league. You seem to think they can do it with 3 as long as they run Lacy into the ground every other play.

I believe in balance, to a certain extent, but this should still be a 65-35 pass vs run team. We just happen to have a RB who can do a lot more if needed, which allows GB a 3rd dimension to attack weak run-D opponents as needed. But this team has arguably the most accurate, mistake-free QB in the history of the league throwing the ball for another 6-8 more years, so to put him out there with only 2 solid WRs and an undrafted FA #3 who showed some promise last year should be a crime.

Fans have gotten kind of spoiled over the last few years by assuming TT can just draft more WRs and they'll pan out. But the stats are in: finding competent WRs in the later rounds of the draft doesn't happen very often and they can't afford to blow a day 2 pick on one this year. It looks as if no one is jumping at James Jones so far which may or may not be a good sign. He's either asking too much, or folks just aren't that interested. The good news for Green Bay, because it makes him affordable again, is that he's just not starter material, but instead is a WR3 opponents have to respect as he can, sometimes, take over a game by himself. Perhaps he can come back to GB at a reasonable deal and make up for the Shields overpayment (and we'll agree to disagree here, Shields was overpaid).

If the Packers think they can force Quarless into a starting TE, great. But I don't buy it, he's the epitome of average and I'd guess he'd be ranked one of the worst starting TEs in the NFL if they stick with him on opening day. They need someone else to effectively work the middle as I just don't believe the talented, but undersized Cobb will last long doing that-- not to mention he's about to be one of the highest paid players on the team, so getting him killed is bad business.

Now... your other question-- how do they pay for all of that? Well, first by not overpaying average players, so they're not off to a good start. The 8 million/year offer to Raji that, thank God he didn't accept, should have been a red flag to even die hard TT fans. But now you have 10 mil to Shields? I've always been a huge TT/McArthy fan, but even I have to raise an eyebrow at some of this recent stuff. And I won't even get into the not-firing-Capers subject again...

Like I said, TT needs a home run in this draft or the murmurs will get louder.

 
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Im glad you decide who is overpaid...but there is no way they can afford 4-5 pass catchers like you want...plus Rodgers, plus an OLine...plus a defense.

You are not living in reality of the NFL.

 
Tell me how they can pay for Jones, Cobb, Nelson, a stud TE...still keep the OL together or improve it...and try to do all the things you want them to do on D?

I won't hold my breath for a real answer to that one.
You draft Ebron in the first and you have him on a cheap contract for 5 years.

It'll be tough to re-sign both Nelson and Cobb though unless they want to take less than market value to stay.

 
Tell me how they can pay for Jones, Cobb, Nelson, a stud TE...still keep the OL together or improve it...and try to do all the things you want them to do on D?

I won't hold my breath for a real answer to that one.
You draft Ebron in the first and you have him on a cheap contract for 5 years.

It'll be tough to re-sign both Nelson and Cobb though unless they want to take less than market value to stay.
They can sign bothof them now I believe.

The problem with drafting the TE...then you have to hope you get safety and/or LB help later in the draft.

 
Tell me how they can pay for Jones, Cobb, Nelson, a stud TE...still keep the OL together or improve it...and try to do all the things you want them to do on D?

I won't hold my breath for a real answer to that one.
You draft Ebron in the first and you have him on a cheap contract for 5 years.

It'll be tough to re-sign both Nelson and Cobb though unless they want to take less than market value to stay.
They can sign bothof them now I believe.

The problem with drafting the TE...then you have to hope you get safety and/or LB help later in the draft.
I agree, not an easy call to make if there are multiple players they need when on the clock.

 
Other interesting thing...the Packers are quite tight lipped. You don't get huge leaks about them til after the fact on some things.

Peppers got into town, sat down, and signed before anything was leaked about them even being interested in him.

Sort of impressed by how that happens in a time with all the cameras and social media everywhere.
TT farts and you're impressed ;)

Good luck with ol' man Peppers :P

 
Other interesting thing...the Packers are quite tight lipped. You don't get huge leaks about them til after the fact on some things.

Peppers got into town, sat down, and signed before anything was leaked about them even being interested in him.

Sort of impressed by how that happens in a time with all the cameras and social media everywhere.
TT farts and you're impressed ;)

Good luck with ol' man Peppers :P
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000334084/article/best-freeagent-signings-so-far

Best Free Agent Signings so far

Here are our favorite signings thus far:


Julius Peppers to the Packers
There's a lot to like here. Peppers is flexible enough to play multiple positions on the defensive line, giving Green Bay greater flexibility. You can line him up as a 3-4 defensive end, a 4-3 defensive end or tackle or stand him up as a linebacker. Peppers will reportedly make $8.5 million in 2013, a reasonable gamble for a Packers defense that needs help.

It's also nice to see general manager Ted Thompson taking a swing at finding a free-agent value. His moves to get Ryan Pickett and Charles Woodson last decade were key in establishing the Packers' eventual championship run.

-- Gregg Rosenthal
Peppers is at the top of their list

 
Other interesting thing...the Packers are quite tight lipped. You don't get huge leaks about them til after the fact on some things.

Peppers got into town, sat down, and signed before anything was leaked about them even being interested in him.

Sort of impressed by how that happens in a time with all the cameras and social media everywhere.
TT farts and you're impressed ;)

Good luck with ol' man Peppers :P
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000334084/article/best-freeagent-signings-so-far

Best Free Agent Signings so far

Here are our favorite signings thus far:


Julius Peppers to the Packers
There's a lot to like here. Peppers is flexible enough to play multiple positions on the defensive line, giving Green Bay greater flexibility. You can line him up as a 3-4 defensive end, a 4-3 defensive end or tackle or stand him up as a linebacker. Peppers will reportedly make $8.5 million in 2013, a reasonable gamble for a Packers defense that needs help.

It's also nice to see general manager Ted Thompson taking a swing at finding a free-agent value. His moves to get Ryan Pickett and Charles Woodson last decade were key in establishing the Packers' eventual championship run.

-- Gregg Rosenthal
Peppers is at the top of their list
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

 
I am interested to see which WR TT decides to extend and which one he lets walk. My guess is Joedy stays and Cobb is allowed to leave.

Definitely see pack going WR early this draft.
Ted Thompson has a ton of money and won't let Nelson or Cobb walk. Both will be back after 2014.

 
I doubt we see Peppers much at all in the base 3-4 package. I see him as a pass rush nightmare. Limiting his snaps should in theory get maximum effort. His body isn't breaking down, just his motivation in Chicago.

 
I doubt we see Peppers much at all in the base 3-4 package. I see him as a pass rush nightmare. Limiting his snaps should in theory get maximum effort. His body isn't breaking down, just his motivation in Chicago.
Peppers has always been a freak of nature. Lets see if he has a couple good years in him. I want to see him take a leadership role and improve the motor if this dline.
 
I am interested to see which WR TT decides to extend and which one he lets walk. My guess is Joedy stays and Cobb is allowed to leave.

Definitely see pack going WR early this draft.
Ted Thompson has a ton of money and won't let Nelson or Cobb walk. Both will be back after 2014.
Who wouldn't want to keep both? But in the salary cap world with a stud QB, signing 2 receivers to bi $$$ is a mistake. There might be a lot of money, but some will need to go to other areas. Mike Daniels, for example.

 
Other interesting thing...the Packers are quite tight lipped. You don't get huge leaks about them til after the fact on some things.

Peppers got into town, sat down, and signed before anything was leaked about them even being interested in him.

Sort of impressed by how that happens in a time with all the cameras and social media everywhere.
TT farts and you're impressed ;)

Good luck with ol' man Peppers :P
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000334084/article/best-freeagent-signings-so-far

Best Free Agent Signings so far

Here are our favorite signings thus far:


Julius Peppers to the Packers
There's a lot to like here. Peppers is flexible enough to play multiple positions on the defensive line, giving Green Bay greater flexibility. You can line him up as a 3-4 defensive end, a 4-3 defensive end or tackle or stand him up as a linebacker. Peppers will reportedly make $8.5 million in 2013, a reasonable gamble for a Packers defense that needs help.

It's also nice to see general manager Ted Thompson taking a swing at finding a free-agent value. His moves to get Ryan Pickett and Charles Woodson last decade were key in establishing the Packers' eventual championship run.

-- Gregg Rosenthal
Peppers is at the top of their list
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Apparently what helps you sleep is coming in here to try and bash others without really adding anything of substance anywhere.

Congrats on that.

 
Who are we drafting? Why do I keep hearing WR? And the Peppers move was brilliant....

ETA: Who is Megatron Jr? TIA

 
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Packers have signed Letroy Guion away from the Vikes. After the grief Pack fans have given Vike fans over the years after MN signed away Pack FAs there has to be a bunch of jokes to be made here at the expense of Packer fans.

I'll let someone else take it from here, though. I wouldn't want to be disrespectful in your thread.

 
Who are we drafting? Why do I keep hearing WR? And the Peppers move was brilliant....

ETA: Who is Megatron Jr? TIA
ILB, TE, S...could be a number of things in the first.

Will likely see a lot of LBs and DBs just drafted...WR by the 3rd or 4th round IMO.

And either a late QB or an undrafted one to compete with Tolzien.

 
Packers have signed Letroy Guion away from the Vikes. After the grief Pack fans have given Vike fans over the years after MN signed away Pack FAs there has to be a bunch of jokes to be made here at the expense of Packer fans.

I'll let someone else take it from here, though. I wouldn't want to be disrespectful in your thread.
Meh...we sight a body to rotate on the Dline...if he even makes the team.

 
I am interested to see which WR TT decides to extend and which one he lets walk. My guess is Joedy stays and Cobb is allowed to leave.

Definitely see pack going WR early this draft.
Ted Thompson has a ton of money and won't let Nelson or Cobb walk. Both will be back after 2014.
Who wouldn't want to keep both? But in the salary cap world with a stud QB, signing 2 receivers to bi $$$ is a mistake. There might be a lot of money, but some will need to go to other areas. Mike Daniels, for example.
Mike Daniels? Sorry, but he is a guy you only re-sign if he comes at a very cheap price.
 
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I am interested to see which WR TT decides to extend and which one he lets walk. My guess is Joedy stays and Cobb is allowed to leave.

Definitely see pack going WR early this draft.
Ted Thompson has a ton of money and won't let Nelson or Cobb walk. Both will be back after 2014.
Who wouldn't want to keep both? But in the salary cap world with a stud QB, signing 2 receivers to bi $$$ is a mistake. There might be a lot of money, but some will need to go to other areas. Mike Daniels, for example.
Mike Daniels? Sorry, but he is a guy you only re-sign if he comes at a very cheap price.
100% disagree.

 

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