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Can you walk me through this?  I don't feel like reading the entire briefing.  Where does it say this?
Well I did include a page reference. IIRC it's a lawsuit seeking documentation that Hillary was trained on handling classified information. That's a legal requirement and she signed her NDAs saying she was so trained. On page 5 State says it has checked it's databases and it has nothing.

 
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Mark Toner, the State Department’s deputy spokesman, told TheDCNF in a statement that the lack of briefing records doesn’t necessarily mean they were not trained.


He said Clinton received “in person orientation” on handling classified information. “The absence of documentation from training resources they did not use does not indicate that they were not trained.”


http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/01/exclusive-hillary-completed-no-security-briefings-or-courses-at-state-dept/#ixzz4GClA7Hjf
Thing about a database is that it doesn't require actual documents, it just has to be entered that a thing happened. So apparently what State is saying is that no one recorded Hillary being trained so they have no basis for saying Hillary was trained, oh but hey she just was. Ok.

 
is this the part where we talk about how training like this is beneath the office of SoS and should only be mandatory for "the little people"?
It's not really clear if Hillary handled classified material in the Senate either, so it's not really clear if the rules of classified data were ever explained to her. 

 
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TobiasFunke said:
Are we just completely making up stuff now?  I like it.

Donald Trump rapes kittens.

Jill Stein was part of the Manson family.

Gary Johnson wants to change the American flag to this: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think the part about Gary might be true actually.

 
It's not really clear if Hillary handled classified material in the Senate either, so it's not really clear if the rules of classified data were ever explained to her. 
"At this point what difference does it make?!!"  [America waits to see if 31k private emails plus God knows what else drop between now and November and affect our election].

 
Well I did include a page reference. IIRC it's a lawsuit seeking documentation that Hillary was trained on handling classified information. That's a legal requirement and she signed her NDAs saying she was so trained. On page 5 State says it has checked it's databases and it has nothing.
Yes, I read the page.  I didn't see that there.  That page seems to be dealing with training certifications- like when you complete an online training thingy it gets recorded (these are common at federal jobs).  That seems different from a signed NDA, which wouldn't be in those databases.  All it's saying is she didn't go through those useless intranet training courses ,which makes sense.  She was the Secretary of State; presumably her guidance on all subjects related to on the job activity would be more specialized and her authority more broad. And done in person, I would think.  Nobody's making intranet training courses for Cabinet members.

 
Yes, I read the page.  I didn't see that there.  That page seems to be dealing with training certifications- like when you complete an online training thingy it gets recorded (these are common at federal jobs).  That seems different from a signed NDA, which wouldn't be in those databases.  All it's saying is she didn't go through those useless intranet training courses ,which makes sense.  She was the Secretary of State; presumably her guidance on all subjects related to on the job activity would be more specialized and her authority more broad. And done in person, I would think.  Nobody's making intranet training courses for Cabinet members.
The way I read pages 4-5 State is saying that they already reported that they searched their standard training databases - and they found nothing.

From the link posted by FSM:

In the Freedom of Information lawsuit brought by The Daily Caller News Foundation, the department to date has failed to deliver any documents showing that Clinton ever enrolled and passed mandatory State Department courses that instructed officials in the proper handling of classified material.
Page 6 doesn't really seem to contradict that on Page 6. State is just saying they should not have to go look anywhere else like hard drives and that kind of thing but nowhere are they contradicting that no records have been provided.
 
Thing about a database is that it doesn't require actual documents, it just has to be entered that a thing happened. So apparently what State is saying is that no one recorded Hillary being trained so they have no basis for saying Hillary was trained, oh but hey she just was. Ok.
What part of 

He said Clinton received “in person orientation” on handling classified information.


is not clear to you? 

 
"At this point what difference does it make?!!"  [America waits to see if 31k private emails plus God knows what else drop between now and November and affect our election].
Unfortunately too many people in this country don't care how bad these two candidates are. New scandals won't lose them the ridiculous amount of support each one has. The candidates aren't the problem with this country. It's their supporters that are. 

 
Yay, we're talking about emails again. 
 It's easy to sum it up when you're just talking about emails. We're sitting in here, and I'm supposed to be the franchise player, and we in here talking about emails. I mean, listen, we're talking about emails, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about emails. Not a game. Not, not … Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game like it's my last. Not the game, but we're talking about emails, man. I mean, how silly is that? … And we talking about emails. I know I supposed to be there. I know I'm supposed to lead by example... I know that... And I'm not.. I'm not shoving it aside, you know, like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I do. I honestly do... But we're talking about emails man. What are we talking about? Emails? We're talking about emails, man. We're talking about emails. We're talking about emails. We ain't talking about the game. We're talking about emails, man. When you come to the arena, and you see me play, you see me play don't you? You've seen me give everything I've got, right? But we're talking about emails right now.

 
 It's easy to sum it up when you're just talking about emails. We're sitting in here, and I'm supposed to be the franchise player, and we in here talking about emails. I mean, listen, we're talking about emails, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about emails. Not a game. Not, not … Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game like it's my last. Not the game, but we're talking about emails, man. I mean, how silly is that? … And we talking about emails. I know I supposed to be there. I know I'm supposed to lead by example... I know that... And I'm not.. I'm not shoving it aside, you know, like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I do. I honestly do... But we're talking about emails man. What are we talking about? Emails? We're talking about emails, man. We're talking about emails. We're talking about emails. We ain't talking about the game. We're talking about emails, man. When you come to the arena, and you see me play, you see me play don't you? You've seen me give everything I've got, right? But we're talking about emails right now.
Holy f, i was just wishing someone could edit that video and replace practice with email.

 
Thing about a database is that it doesn't require actual documents, it just has to be entered that a thing happened. So apparently what State is saying is that no one recorded Hillary being trained so they have no basis for saying Hillary was trained, oh but hey she just was. Ok.
What part of 

He said Clinton received “in person orientation” on handling classified information.


is not clear to you? 
It's really unclear. Spokesman says Hillary received training in order to explain why it has zero record of Hillary receiving training

is clear to you? 

 
 It's easy to sum it up when you're just talking about emails. We're sitting in here, and I'm supposed to be the franchise player, and we in here talking about emails. I mean, listen, we're talking about emails, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about emails. Not a game. Not, not … Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game like it's my last. Not the game, but we're talking about emails, man. I mean, how silly is that? … And we talking about emails. I know I supposed to be there. I know I'm supposed to lead by example... I know that... And I'm not.. I'm not shoving it aside, you know, like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I do. I honestly do... But we're talking about emails man. What are we talking about? Emails? We're talking about emails, man. We're talking about emails. We're talking about emails. We ain't talking about the game. We're talking about emails, man. When you come to the arena, and you see me play, you see me play don't you? You've seen me give everything I've got, right? But we're talking about emails right now.
Is this a Trump quote? Because it might be a Trump quote.

 
So did she receive training or not?
Not a Hillary fan but it looks like the orientation and personal training she got might have covered it Now maybe some check box were left undone on a online form somewhere but at this point there is no reason to suspect that former SOS Hillary Clinton did anything wrong.

Honestly the above sounds like malarkey to me but you guys have got to understand you are dealing with Hillary and before you know it she is going to take that bat out of you hand and beat you over the head with it. Have you guys not learned anything yet when dealings with her?

 
Not a Hillary fan but it looks like the orientation and personal training she got might have covered it Now maybe some check box were left undone on a online form somewhere but at this point there is no reason to suspect that former SOS Hillary Clinton did anything wrong.
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I don't want to debate it any further, I posted the briefing because I thought it was pretty straightforward. The points about the email situation have been covered. If you want to accept the State Department spokesman's POV on it, fine, I guess the reported fact is that State has no documentation to prove it, I think we can agree on that at least.

 
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Not a Hillary fan but it looks like the orientation and personal training she got might have covered it Now maybe some check box were left undone on a online form somewhere but at this point there is no reason to suspect that former SOS Hillary Clinton did anything wrong.

Honestly the above sounds like malarkey to me but you guys have got to understand you are dealing with Hillary and before you know it she is going to take that bat out of you hand and beat you over the head with it. Have you guys not learned anything yet when dealings with her?
Link to where she got personal training. TIA!

 
The personal orientation covered the personal; training. This is after all Hillary Clinton we are talking about - the former 1st lady, Senator and now SoS. I am sure she knows more about how to handle this more than anyone. As a matter of fact she could possibly teach the class.
We all know what she thinks of herself. Her behavior however, documented by the FBI as being "careless", is indicative of someone who is not trained on handling classified information. For her to do a job without proper training because she thinks training is beneath her is EXACTLY the kind of person I have always taken her to be. 

"Wait.... I wasn't suppose to hit THAT button?.... are you sure?... They're going to impact when?....... oops."

 
We all know what she thinks of herself. Her behavior however, documented by the FBI as being "careless", is indicative of someone who is not trained on handling classified information. For her to do a job without proper training because she thinks training is beneath her is EXACTLY the kind of person I have always taken her to be. 

"Wait.... I wasn't suppose to hit THAT button?.... are you sure?... They're going to impact when?....... oops."
:lmao:

Seriously at this point that the very idea of her taking any sort of training on how to handle secrets would be seen (by her or by her enemies) as her admitting that she does not know how to handle it.  It will be interesting to see how she spins this, but make NO mistake in the end this will not be her fault.

 
See where you're going with this, but a more accurate portrayal IMHO would be if she were concealing brain cancer and congential heart failure and had no qualms about representing fitness.  

"As far as I know, I am not unfit to lead. There has never been any unfitness.  It depends on the definition of what 'fitness' is."  

i.e. I don't trust her.  She lies.  And she has no trouble getting those around her to lie along with her.  
Hate to call myself prescient, but photos from DNC (Google it) seem to show that Hillary had a recent tongue biopsy.  Is she hiding Cancer?  

 
This was discussed yesterday, what would it look like, like the author, I find it unimaginable.

Donald Trump’s Concession Speech

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/noam-bramson/donald-trump-concession-speech_b_11298258.html

Pathological bully, braggart, narcissist, confabulator — choose your descriptor.

I like confabulator - Trump won't know what hit him! :)

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/confabulator

Psychology To fill in gaps in one's memory with fabrications that one believes to be facts. 


Khan confrontation keys in on human decency — and that could haunt Trump


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/khan-confrontation-keys-in-on-human-decency--and-that-could-haunt-trump/2016/08/01/67e6ff46-57ea-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html

Why Gold Star Parents Are the New Third Rail in Politics

http://time.com/4434128/donald-trump-khizr-khan-gold-star-parents/

"All parties to the sad spectacle are playing their scripted roles. Republicans, long seen as the more pro-military of the two major parties, delicately tried to distance themselves from Trump’s words, but not his candidacy. Rep. Max Thornberry, the Texas Republican who chairs the armed services committee, issued a statement Monday saying he was “dismayed at the attacks” on the Khans—without once mentioning Trump. Sen. John McCain, the Arizona Republican who chairs that body’s armed services committee, said he could not “emphasize enough how deeply I disagree with Mr. Trump’s statement.” GOP loyalists criticized the Democrats for letting Khan speak, with some in the Web’s fetid conspiratorial underbelly suggesting Khan is somehow a secret agent of the Muslim Brotherhood seeking to topple the U.S. government."

I just like seeing the phrase fetid conspiratorial underbelly in an article about Trump. 

 
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#TrumpSacrifices

Decided to stop outsourcing his hair piece materials (to a squirrel/honey badger composite), saving the lives of hundreds of endangered red spider monkeys.

 
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Hate to call myself prescient, but photos from DNC (Google it) seem to show that Hillary had a recent tongue biopsy.  Is she hiding Cancer?  
I don't see why these people are so precious. Trump shows signs of being mentally unstable. And they're both near or over 70. No one blinked when it was said McCain should provide his medical records, and these folks are the same age. I think it would be good if the public demanded medical records from both of them.

 
Hillary just needs to let Donald keep hanging himself daily.   Donald would be better off if he just stayed inside Trump Towers until the election is over.   

 
Trump had his son making the interview rounds, possibly calculated so Donald wouldn't fan the flames of the controversy firestorm further. Not surprisingly, the son came off as less defensive and more sane (low bar, so would a rabid hyena).

The goofy fake Purple Heart did seem to lower the volume on Khan. Maybe he will get a fake Congressional Medal of Honor next as a sign of his fake support of the military and former soldiers like McCain and Khan.

 
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No way in hell am I clicking that link.
https://i.redd.it/3jgwvhea2lcx.png

That's the link to the picture.  If it hasn't been altered...  And it appears to be verified as a screen grab from the DNC...  Then it's almost certainly a recent biopsy.  And if it's a recent biopsy of the tongue, then it's quite likely she has cancer of the tongue.  (This, incidentally, is what my own grandmother died of before I was born). 

Edit:  IMHO Hillary with Cancer is still better than Trump without it.  But I think we'd have the right to know.  And I think we wouldn't know because, hey -- look who we're dealing with.

 
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https://i.redd.it/3jgwvhea2lcx.png

That's the link to the picture.  If it hasn't been altered...  And it appears to be verified as a screen grab from the DNC...  Then it's almost certainly a recent biopsy.  And if it's a recent biopsy of the tongue, then it's quite likely she has cancer of the tongue.  (This, incidentally, is what my own grandmother died of before I was born). 

Edit:  IMHO Hillary with Cancer is still better than Trump without it.  But I think we'd have the right to know.  And I think we wouldn't know because, hey -- look who we're dealing with.
Just when I think you have run out of conspiracy theories, you always manage to produce a new one nobody else has thought of. Well done.  :thumbup:

 
Hillary just needs to let Donald keep hanging himself daily.   Donald would be better off if he just stayed inside Trump Towers until the election is over.   
Two things: She needs to just shut up and let him hang himself and pray that he doesn't quit until the end of September...That will just totally mess with the Republican ticket up and down the line

 
I just saw that Hell Toupee now has a Trump thread where he asks for a  A Safe Haven For POSITIVE People

Can you imagine the ridicule (which would cover no less than 3 pages) if Hillary's supporters in this thread had ever asked for  A Safe Haven For Positive People?  

And of course there has yet to be one conservative or Trump supporter who has objected to that thread title. I guess it is because Trump supporters are delicate, fragile flowers that need a Safe Haven.

 
I just saw that Hell Toupee now has a Trump thread where he asks for a  A Safe Haven For POSITIVE People

Can you imagine the ridicule (which would cover no less than 3 pages) if Hillary's supporters in this thread had ever asked for  A Safe Haven For Positive People?  

And of course there has yet to be one conservative or Trump supporter who has objected to that thread title. I guess it is because Trump supporters are delicate, fragile flowers that need a Safe Haven.
Delusion flourishes under conditions of peace and quiet.  

 
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