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Baloney Sandwich said:
Nobody is paying much attention but over the last couple of days Johnson & Weld sound more like two mean opposing each other than running on the same ticket
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That was kind of inevitable. Weld has a bit of the Pence Trumpslaining quality where he tries to couch weird things GJ says into normal policythink.

 
avoiding injuries said:
I'm seriously asking...is she under 2 federal investigations or just one? Her emails which were reopened, of course, but what about the Clinton Foundation investigation? I never got a full understanding of what's happening with that. 
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You can't reasonably expect voters to keep up with all of Hillary's criminal investigations.  Come on.

 
cobalt_27 said:
I could read this a thousand times and still start at the beginning to read it one time over again.

Very well articulated, and I share your frustration, anger, and sadness.
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Please.  This is high comedy coming from someone who only yesterday was seriously talking about Trump starting another Holocaust.  If he is tired of the unwarranted vitriol maybe he should start with looking in the mirror.

 
Post-ABC Tracking poll finds race tied, as Trump opens up an 8-point edge on honesty

:unsure:   let that sink in for a moment.  Here is a guy who lies about EVERYTHING, and he has an 8 point advantage on honesty.

 
jonessed said:
Please.  This is high comedy coming from someone who only yesterday was seriously talking about Trump starting another Holocaust.  If he is tired of the unwarranted vitriol maybe he should start with looking in the mirror.
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In fairness, I think Koya was just saying that he and his wife were hiding under their beds in fear of a Trump win because they're Jewish. It was Tobias that validated their fears with his links to the impending new holocaust. 

 
Autumn Wind said:
Yup. Every election cycle now makes the voices of the far right crazies less and less powerful. I'm OK with playing prevent defense to get to the point where they are reduced to nothing more than white noise (heh heh).
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Who's crazier the far right or the far left? Seems to me the citizenry is so fed up with the left they might actually elect Trump.

 
Jrodicus said:
I don't think that's much of an option, regardless of the results.
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Eh the Clintons are a known quantity.

A constitutional crisis like you mention where 90% of America never really got constitutional civics wakes up to learn the tie breaker procedure is worst case scenario. Bush vs Gore was bad enough.

A Trump win literally upsets the balance of power in the world. And things go haywire here. IMO. The man absolutely cannot properly govern. I wouldn't put him in charge of a grocery store.

 
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Sinn Fein said:
Post-ABC Tracking poll finds race tied, as Trump opens up an 8-point edge on honesty

:unsure:   let that sink in for a moment.  Here is a guy who lies about EVERYTHING, and he has an 8 point advantage on honesty.
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smdh.

Yes, this is Hillary's fault. Baked in flaw yet so much resistance on this very point.

 
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Hang 10 said:
In fairness, I think Koya was just saying that he and his wife were hiding under their beds in fear of a Trump win because they're Jewish. It was Tobias that validated their fears with his links to the impending new holocaust. 
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No. He followed that up with the "KKK", "Hitler". "Nazi", "Holocaust" post.  He was all in.

 
Koya said:
Now, my friends with more traditional careers at this point (you know, real jobs, 401ks that are growing and stuff), those who are gay, minority or any of the other groups Trump's policies would directly threaten, they I could see actually dealing with a lot more grief early on. Financially and otherwise.  That is why my level of concern and passion is running so high at this point. If it were just me, hell, if Trump just was not so full of vengeance and hate (even with his line of fraudulent activity), I could enjoy the new tax breaks especially as I'm in real estate (and looking to do some large stuff on my own).  
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What's Trump's plan for the gays?

 
Sinn Fein said:
The better outcome here is McMullin taking Utah in this scenario.

269-265-4  But it still gets tossed to the House, and they get to vote on the top-3 - so that throws McMullin into the mix as a "compromise" candidate....
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Personally, I want to see a 269-269 tie with the Republican held Congress electing Trump.

In THIS scenario...I get to tell everyone I know on the Left...."Wow....you were right...Elections DO have consequences". 

 
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Opie said:
Personally, I want to see a 269-269 tie with the Republican held Congress electing Trump.

In THIS scenario...I get to tell everyone I know on the Left...."Wow....you were right...Elections have consequences". 
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We know that from 2000, particularly after SCOTUS stopped the Florida recount and handed the election to Bush and being told, "So what? What harm could he do?"

 
The_Man said:
I DON'T WANT IT.

I don't want right-wingers talking about what a horrible leftist Hillary is, when the reality of her actions demonstrate that she is in thrall to Wall Street and is gruesomely hawkish on foreign policy.

I don't want left-wingers falling in line behind a presumptive nominee who has sold out their ideals time after time.

I don't want Hillary's awkward "I'm so surprised to see you!" face everytime she walks on stage at an event.

I don't want to see or hear Chelsea Clinton, ever.

I am so sick of this election already, and it's more than 18 months away.
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This held up pretty well. Should have predicted the self-inflicted scandal, though, as it seems to be a particular Clinton specialty.

 
I think it would be amazing if she was elected and tore off a latex mask to reveal she was actually Bernie Sanders all along and he loves us even though we tried to elect someone else.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
I still think people (ie polls) are undercounting the vast difference in GOTV. Hillary has a huge one, Trump has next to nothing. It will show up on election day IMO.
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I think this is going to be fascinating. I also believe that GOTV still matters, but that might be an outdated notion. I guess we'll see if street level organizing makes a difference in today's digital, highly connected world - because it seems Hillary has invested hugely in this traditional effort, and Trump has ignored it almost completely.

My experience in recent years is that the importance of an election day machine to turn out voters is very underestimated. There are still millions and millions of people that aren't on Twitter and Facebook - and they are often older and minority voters. If you can get them to the polls to support your candidate, it's a huge unseen bump. In the most recent Baltimore mayoral election, the winning campaign was basically paying people to vote - under the guise of them being paid Election Day poll canvassers. And it made the winning difference.

 
sublimeone said:
Gay marriage has already been decided. How do you suppose he's going to give states the option to over-rule the supreme court? 
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SCOTUS appointments that will overturn the ruling.

http://www.hrc.org/2016RepublicanFacts/donald-trump-opposes-nationwide-marriage-equality

Marriage: Trump has been a consistent opponent of marriage equality. He said that he opposed it because he was a “traditional” guy, choosing to support domestic partnership benefits instead. Trump later reversed himself and said he also opposed civil unions. Despite a brief flirtation with “evolving” in 2013, Trump has consistently maintained his opposition to marriage equality, sometimes by citing polling and making an analogy to his dislike of long golf putters. After the Supreme Court ruling, Trump said the court had made its decision and, although he disagreed with the ruling, he did not support a constitutional amendment that would allow states to re-ban marriage equality. He later said he would appoint Supreme Court judges who would be committed to overturning the ruling.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Eh the Clintons are a known quantity.

A constitutional crisis like you mention where 90% of America never really got constitutional civics wakes up to learn the tie breaker procedure is worst case scenario. Bush vs Gore was bad enough.

A Trump win literally upsets the balance of power in the world. And things go haywire here. IMO. The man absolutely cannot properly govern. I wouldn't put him in charge of a grocery store.
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Trump will put together a great cabinet because he doesn't want to do the dirty work. 

HRC will put together a clown car full of unqualified political hacks, outcasts from academia, and sycophants in her cabinet.

I'm not worried at all about Trump.  

 
The_Man said:
The_Man said:
I DON'T WANT IT.

I don't want right-wingers talking about what a horrible leftist Hillary is, when the reality of her actions demonstrate that she is in thrall to Wall Street and is gruesomely hawkish on foreign policy.

I don't want left-wingers falling in line behind a presumptive nominee who has sold out their ideals time after time.

I don't want Hillary's awkward "I'm so surprised to see you!" face everytime she walks on stage at an event.

I don't want to see or hear Chelsea Clinton, ever.

I am so sick of this election already, and it's more than 18 months away.
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This held up pretty well. Should have predicted the self-inflicted scandal, though, as it seems to be a particular Clinton specialty.
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And months before Trump too.  She was always a bad candidate.   

 
knowledge dropper said:
Trump will put together a great cabinet because he doesn't want to do the dirty work. 

HRC will put together a clown car full of unqualified political hacks, outcasts from academia, and sycophants in her cabinet.

I'm not worried at all about Trump.  
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Look at his campaign staff chaos and repeated amateur hour since last summer. Tells me all I need to know.

 
timschochet said:
Because of the firewalls the odds are still heavily in Hillary's favor. But it's closer than it was before. If this were a football game, it would be Bengals 28, Patriots 24 with 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter, and the Bengals have the ball 3rd and 15 at their own 10. Cincinnati is flawed but benefited from a couple first half turnovers and desperately want the game to end. The Beige water pistol convert in primetime? :lmao:   #12 is on the other sideline with that look in his eye.  
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Henry Ford said:
Another morning of not being able to believe what complete unwashed ###holes we have as candidates for President, or how clearly preferable one of the unwashed ###holes is to the other.
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Deflection and denial have been the STRONGEST I have EVER seen in an election this time around.  I mean we have people trivializing poor judgment that could put our national security at risk as well as trivializing accusations of rape and sexual assault.  

 
squistion said:
SCOTUS appointments that will overturn the ruling.

http://www.hrc.org/2016RepublicanFacts/donald-trump-opposes-nationwide-marriage-equality

Marriage: Trump has been a consistent opponent of marriage equality. He said that he opposed it because he was a “traditional” guy, choosing to support domestic partnership benefits instead. Trump later reversed himself and said he also opposed civil unions. Despite a brief flirtation with “evolving” in 2013, Trump has consistently maintained his opposition to marriage equality, sometimes by citing polling and making an analogy to his dislike of long golf putters. After the Supreme Court ruling, Trump said the court had made its decision and, although he disagreed with the ruling, he did not support a constitutional amendment that would allow states to re-ban marriage equality. He later said he would appoint Supreme Court judges who would be committed to overturning the ruling.
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So this is the new 'abortion' of the left, huh? We've had a right-leaning supreme court since like the 70's, republican presidents, republican congresses etc... and somehow abortion is still legal. 

 
One of the more entertaining themes in this election is the "Trump is a liar, he lies about everything" vs "He just said he'd do......." (oh...you mean the guy that lies about everything? Ok) shtick that has been going all over the googles.  Reality is, no sane or logical person has any idea what this ###### would do in office.  That's reason enough...no need to be that inconsistent in a position to prove a point.  Haters all around are in panic mode and grasping at some pretty bizarre straws.

 
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