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*** OFFICIAL *** In-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter doowain
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Adam Harstad
Moderator
Too early to call it proven. Things look grim, but the book's not closed yet. If nothing else, there are few gambles in the league today that have the kind of upside Trent Richardson offers.
Adam Harstad
Moderator
I can understand why it would be hard to pull the trigger, but I think that's the sort of trade that you appreciate more and more as you gain more distance from it. That'll suck a tiny bit for 2-3 weeks, then rule hard for 2+ years.
loose circuits
Footballguy
that is awful for the dude that traded away shorts and Mathews. What were they thinking?
Adam Harstad
Moderator
Way too much, even for a rebuilding team (especially for a rebuilding team, because that means the 1st is relatively high).
msudaisy26
Footballguy
It isn't the Brady part that I hate. I think he will be fine, but when you trade a guy in record pace that is winning fantasy games by himself you should get at least a first with it. I would call it fair if you got Brady a 1st and a 2nd or long shot prospect.
FUBAR
Footballguy
In 12 team leagues, the stars have to align fit you to get a first for Peyton. Not every league has a contender who needs a qb
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I don't like it either. If the team is a doormat, why even bother trading for Brady at all? He's a whopping year and a half younger than Peyton and has already shown more signs of decline at an age where it's not at all uncommon for people to start declining.
It's a bad trade because he's giving up his best trade piece for something that doesn't help him. Look through the other stuff that Peyton has been traded for in this thread. Every single one of those helps a rebuilding team more than Brady/2nd does.
ETA: Just saw the guy giving Peyton said he wasn't able to find anything better for him. I guess that makes it better, but I find it hard to believe there wasn't someone out there willing to give something better. I think a guy like Christine Michael might have been in play from a contender and I'd much rather have him than Brady/2nd in a rebuild.
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
Ya back when I was 3 and 3 and in the hunt still the Peyton owner came to me and offered me Manning for Doug Martin and Rueben Randle. He actually got mad when I told him I would be interested in Manning but if he wanted Martin and Randle he would have to add quite a bit to the trade.
Leagues vary, and there are some leagues where no one wants to pay for Manning. Most contenders already have their QBs, so what the few (if any) candidates are willing to pay can vary greatly. It can take years sometimes to find the right trade for a QB and Manning owners don't have the time to wait.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I would have to say Manning for Brady and a 2nd is NOT a move I would make, rebuilding or not.
I much rather "risk" just hanging on to him and trying to deal him in the offseason or during next year if there is an injury or someone has a badly underachieving QB or something. Brady won't get nearly as much in return next year. In theory of course.
I much rather "risk" just hanging on to him and trying to deal him in the offseason or during next year if there is an injury or someone has a badly underachieving QB or something. Brady won't get nearly as much in return next year. In theory of course.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Being serious. In the history of the NFL, has there EVER been a RB that has gotten this much work and looked this bad doing it..........then suddenly turned around and become a really good player??Adam Harstad said:
QBs sure, WRs, sure, TEs sure, most other positions, sure. RB???? This many carries and this many looks?
Put whatever blame you want on the O-line. When there is good blocking he STILL looks terrible.
I think it is as proven as things can be in the land of fantasy football that Richardson is NOT a legit top end RB. I realize crazier things have happened, but this is a 1 in 100 IMO.
Adam Harstad
Moderator
As I'm fond of saying, it's easy to say "oh, his value SHOULD be this, or his value SHOULD be that", but the truth is, each league is a market unto itself, and "should" doesn't carry much weight. If the Peyton Manning owner is looking to sell, he only has so many potential partners. He needs to approach someone who is (a) a contender and (b) disappointed with his QB production (the Brees, Stafford, and possibly even Rodgers owners, for instance, aren't going to be super-interested in paying a future 1st for a 2-week rental or minor cosmetic upgrade). The problem is that guys who are disappointed with their QB production are not often contenders. Add in the fact that in many leagues, the QB market is particularly anemic, and in many leagues, the market for old players is particularly anemic, and it's possible that Brady + 2nd blew away any other offer on the table, "should" or no "should".msudaisy26 said:
At the end of the day, the trade is about "is that guy's roster better off with Peyton Manning or with Brady and a 2nd?" Market value aside, I think his roster is better off with Brady and the 2nd. Brady has more years remaining and just as strong of a history of production, (you know that "record-setting" season of Manning's? Who's the guy who holds those records right now, again?), so when you throw in a 2nd rounder (and the not-to-be-overlooked improvement to the team's 1st rounder that comes from getting rid of such a productive player), I think that's a net win for the rebuilding team. Not a huge win, but still a win.
Adam Harstad
Moderator
Eric Metcalf, Keith Byars, and Reggie Bush were both pretty atrocious on their first 400 career carries. Those guys got a ton of their value through the air, although Richardson's 51 receptions as a rookie are nothing to sneeze at. Dorsey Levens and Thomas Jones both had a lower YPC than Trent Richardson through their first two seasons, and Tiki Barber, Ricky Williams, and Matt Forte weren't too far ahead of him. Cedric Benson, another former top-5 pick, had a pretty atrocious start to his career, but still managed to salvage a pair of RB2 seasons in Cincinnati.
Top 5 picks get a lot of rope with which to hang themselves. We're not talking about second chances, we're talking about third and fourth chances. Take a look at the list of top-5 RBs since 1980. Outside of injury, there are not a whole lot of complete and total busts on that list. It's hard in the moment to remember that how things are now is not necessarily how things will be forever, but I'd say that Richardson's chances at fantasy relevance are much higher than 1%. I'm willing to at least give him an offseason with the Colts before burying him completely.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
Going to do a run down of the leagues I'm in for the whole season up to date with the trade deadline looming.
12 team PPR, QRRWWWTKF
Week 1
Team A gives: Matt Ryan, Emmanuel Sanders
Team B gives: Ben Roethlisberger, Andre Johnson
Team A had Kaepernick as their starter, along with being a 49ers fan, had a need at WR.
Team B's starting QB would have been Ben/Cutler
12 team PPR, QRRWWWTKF
Week 1
Team A gives: Matt Ryan, Emmanuel Sanders
Team B gives: Ben Roethlisberger, Andre Johnson
Team A had Kaepernick as their starter, along with being a 49ers fan, had a need at WR.
Team B's starting QB would have been Ben/Cutler
r0llin_game
Footballguy
10 Team PPR, QRRWWWTKD, Flex R/W/T and Superflex of any position. Cutdown to 25 players before the season starts, have two waiver periods during the week, only allowed to add 12 players, but don't have to drop anyone, and are allowed to keep just one of our adds after the season ends.
Week 5
Team A gives: Chris Johnson, 2014 2nd
Team B gives: Kenbrell Thompkins
Week 8
Team C gives: Roy Helu
Team D gives: Danny Amendola, 2014 4th
Team C gives: Adam Vinatieri
Team E gives: Mason Crosby
Week 11
Team E gives: Andre Brown, Rashad Jennings, Julius Thomas
Team F gives: Andre Ellington, Isaiah Pead, Justin Hunter, Greg Olsen, 2014 8th
Week 5
Team A gives: Chris Johnson, 2014 2nd
Team B gives: Kenbrell Thompkins
Week 8
Team C gives: Roy Helu
Team D gives: Danny Amendola, 2014 4th
Team C gives: Adam Vinatieri
Team E gives: Mason Crosby
Week 11
Team E gives: Andre Brown, Rashad Jennings, Julius Thomas
Team F gives: Andre Ellington, Isaiah Pead, Justin Hunter, Greg Olsen, 2014 8th
r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 Team PPR, QRRWWWTKF
Week 7
Team A gives: Jarrett Boykin
Team B gives: Anquan Boldin
Week 10
Team A gives: Danny Woodhead
Team C gives: Brandon LaFell, Jeremy Maclin
Team A is pretty much a rebuild, who jumps at hot players, starters typically.
Team B had Randall Cobb, wanted to get rid of an inconsistent Anquan
Team C needed a RB for the title run
Week 7
Team A gives: Jarrett Boykin
Team B gives: Anquan Boldin
Week 10
Team A gives: Danny Woodhead
Team C gives: Brandon LaFell, Jeremy Maclin
Team A is pretty much a rebuild, who jumps at hot players, starters typically.
Team B had Randall Cobb, wanted to get rid of an inconsistent Anquan
Team C needed a RB for the title run
r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 Team, PPR, QRRWWTKFF
Week 5
Team A gives: Martellus Bennett
Team B gives: Steve Smith
Week 8
Team C gives: Khiry Robinson
Team D gives: Brandon Weeden
Week 9
Team C gives: Kenbrell Thompkins
Team E gives: Ben Roethlisberger
Week 11
Team C gives: Stevan Ridley, Marlon Brown, Ryan Broyles, Levine Toilolo
Team F gives: Le'Veon Bell, Marvin Jones
Team A needed an extra WR, has a good TE corps
Team B needed a TE
Team C needed a backup QB after Bradford went down
Week 5
Team A gives: Martellus Bennett
Team B gives: Steve Smith
Week 8
Team C gives: Khiry Robinson
Team D gives: Brandon Weeden
Week 9
Team C gives: Kenbrell Thompkins
Team E gives: Ben Roethlisberger
Week 11
Team C gives: Stevan Ridley, Marlon Brown, Ryan Broyles, Levine Toilolo
Team F gives: Le'Veon Bell, Marvin Jones
Team A needed an extra WR, has a good TE corps
Team B needed a TE
Team C needed a backup QB after Bradford went down
r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 Team PPR, QRRWWTKF
Week 2
Team A gives: Dez Bryant
Team B gives: Antonio Brown, Torrey Smith, 2014 1st (expected late)
Team A gives: Joique Bell, Reggie Bush, Mike Williams
Team C gives: Daryl Richardson, Zac Stacy, Jeremy Kerley, 2014 1st, 2014 3rd (expected late)
Week 6
Team B gives: Tyler Eifert
Team C gives: Vernon Davis
Team B gives: BenJarvus Green-Ellis, 2014 2nd (expected late)
Team D gives: Kenny Britt, 2014 3rd (mid-late)
Week 7
Team A gives: Zac Stacy, 2014 1st, 2014 3rd (same first/third from 2nd deal, now projected to be top 6)
Team C gives: Knowshon Moreno, Anquan Boldin, 2014 2nd (late)
Week 8
Team A gives: Jermain Gresham
Team E gives: 2014 3rd (late)
Team E gives: Jermichael Finley, 2014 1st (late)
Team F gives: Antonio Gates
Week 10
Team B gives: Russell Wilson, Mike James, Zac Stacy
Team G gives: Aaron Rodgers, Andre Ellington, Arian Foster (pre announcement out for season)
Week 11
Team A gives: Knowshon Moreno
Team G gives: Michael Crabtree, 2015 1st
Team A started off by trying to rebuild and fill out his roster, then towards the middle of the season had a playoff run come about, followed by a few injuries which prompted him back into a seller, and has three 2014 1st.
Team B won the league last year, odds on favorite to repeat.
Team C has a good core, got unlucky in early matchups, followed by injuries, now has a roster that can win the league in 2014, along with two top 5 picks.
Team D was a contender, now either just misses the playoffs or early round exit
Team E has a shot at the title, needed a TE, will need a bit of luck, and has mostly avoided injuries
Team F is rebuildng
Team G should make semis, could win the title. Had no one behind Rodgers and injuries forced some moves.
Week 2
Team A gives: Dez Bryant
Team B gives: Antonio Brown, Torrey Smith, 2014 1st (expected late)
Team A gives: Joique Bell, Reggie Bush, Mike Williams
Team C gives: Daryl Richardson, Zac Stacy, Jeremy Kerley, 2014 1st, 2014 3rd (expected late)
Week 6
Team B gives: Tyler Eifert
Team C gives: Vernon Davis
Team B gives: BenJarvus Green-Ellis, 2014 2nd (expected late)
Team D gives: Kenny Britt, 2014 3rd (mid-late)
Week 7
Team A gives: Zac Stacy, 2014 1st, 2014 3rd (same first/third from 2nd deal, now projected to be top 6)
Team C gives: Knowshon Moreno, Anquan Boldin, 2014 2nd (late)
Week 8
Team A gives: Jermain Gresham
Team E gives: 2014 3rd (late)
Team E gives: Jermichael Finley, 2014 1st (late)
Team F gives: Antonio Gates
Week 10
Team B gives: Russell Wilson, Mike James, Zac Stacy
Team G gives: Aaron Rodgers, Andre Ellington, Arian Foster (pre announcement out for season)
Week 11
Team A gives: Knowshon Moreno
Team G gives: Michael Crabtree, 2015 1st
Team A started off by trying to rebuild and fill out his roster, then towards the middle of the season had a playoff run come about, followed by a few injuries which prompted him back into a seller, and has three 2014 1st.
Team B won the league last year, odds on favorite to repeat.
Team C has a good core, got unlucky in early matchups, followed by injuries, now has a roster that can win the league in 2014, along with two top 5 picks.
Team D was a contender, now either just misses the playoffs or early round exit
Team E has a shot at the title, needed a TE, will need a bit of luck, and has mostly avoided injuries
Team F is rebuildng
Team G should make semis, could win the title. Had no one behind Rodgers and injuries forced some moves.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 Team PPR, QRRWWTKF
Week 5
Team A gives: Julian Edelman, Jermaine Kearse
Team B gives: Robert Turbin, Danny Woodhead
Week 6
Team C gives: Matt Schaub, Darren Sproles, Michael Floyd, Rob Gronkowski
Team D gives: Geno Smith, Daniel Thomas, Tavon Austin, Jared Cook, 2014 1st (mid to playoff team), 2014 1st, 2nd, 3rd (mid picks)
Team C gives: Frank Gore, 2014 3rd (mid)
Team E gives: Zac Stacy, 2014 2nd (mid to playoff team)
Week 11
Team A gives: Ryan Tannehill, Victor Cruz, Zach Ertz
Team F gives: Case Keenum, Kenny Stills, Julius Thomas
Team C gives: Riley Cooper, 2014 2nd (mid to playoff team), 2014 3rd (early)
Team G gives: Knile Davis, 2014 1st (1.09-1.12)
Team A is the favorite to win the league.
Team C lost Julio, wanted to overhaul roster
Team D had four 2014 first, sent to two later ones in the deal, has a solid core for next season, tried to flip Sproles
Team E was trying to make a playoff push
Team F was shopping for a WR1
Team G is thin at WR
Week 5
Team A gives: Julian Edelman, Jermaine Kearse
Team B gives: Robert Turbin, Danny Woodhead
Week 6
Team C gives: Matt Schaub, Darren Sproles, Michael Floyd, Rob Gronkowski
Team D gives: Geno Smith, Daniel Thomas, Tavon Austin, Jared Cook, 2014 1st (mid to playoff team), 2014 1st, 2nd, 3rd (mid picks)
Team C gives: Frank Gore, 2014 3rd (mid)
Team E gives: Zac Stacy, 2014 2nd (mid to playoff team)
Week 11
Team A gives: Ryan Tannehill, Victor Cruz, Zach Ertz
Team F gives: Case Keenum, Kenny Stills, Julius Thomas
Team C gives: Riley Cooper, 2014 2nd (mid to playoff team), 2014 3rd (early)
Team G gives: Knile Davis, 2014 1st (1.09-1.12)
Team A is the favorite to win the league.
Team C lost Julio, wanted to overhaul roster
Team D had four 2014 first, sent to two later ones in the deal, has a solid core for next season, tried to flip Sproles
Team E was trying to make a playoff push
Team F was shopping for a WR1
Team G is thin at WR
skol asylum
Footballguy
12 team PPR
Gave:
Ryan Tannehill
Josh Gordon
2014 1st & 3rd
2015 1st
Got:
Andrew Luck (to step in for Peyton when the time comes)
Gave:
Ryan Tannehill
Josh Gordon
2014 1st & 3rd
2015 1st
Got:
Andrew Luck (to step in for Peyton when the time comes)
cstu
Footballguy
r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 team PPR, QRRWWTK
Week 1
Team A gives: Chris Ivory
Team B gives: Darrius Heyward-Bey, 2014 2nd
Week 2
Team A gives: 2014 2nd (same 2nd as prior deal)
Team C gives: Mike Williams
Week 6
Team D gives: Peyton Manning, Fred Jackson
Team E gives: Philip Rivers, Andre Brown, Tyler Eifert, 2014 2nd (fringe playoff)
Week 8
Team C gives: Leonard Hankerson
Team D gives: 2014 2nd (same pick in prior deal)
Week 9:
Team D gives: Andre Brown, Steve Smith
Team F gives: Mark Ingram, Kenbrell Thompkins
Team B gives: Trent Richardson
Team G gives: C.J. Spiller, Rueben Randle, 2014 2nd (mid round)
Team B gives: Stevan Ridley, Jordan Reed, (2) 2014 2nds (fringe playoff/2.08-2.12)
Team C gives: Mike Goodson, Mike James, Doug Martin
Week 10
Team F gives: Andre Brown, David Wilson, 2014 3rd (late)
Team H gives: Reggie Bush, Shonn Greene
Team A gives: Tim Wright
Team C gives: 2014 2nd (fringe playoff)
Team B gives: Victor Cruz, 2014 1st (fringe playoff)
Team I gives: Julio Jones
Team A is the worst team in the league
Team B made a lot of nice moves, had a really nice team for the future
Team C has consistently been a playoff team the last few years
Team D is rebuilding
Team E is a fringe playoff team who could make a run with Peyton
Team F is making a run for the title, has a good core
Team G is another fringe playoff team
Team H took over the team at the end of the season, has a decent looking roster for the future
Team I has scored the most points in the league, but had Julio and Wayne kill his WR corps
Week 1
Team A gives: Chris Ivory
Team B gives: Darrius Heyward-Bey, 2014 2nd
Week 2
Team A gives: 2014 2nd (same 2nd as prior deal)
Team C gives: Mike Williams
Week 6
Team D gives: Peyton Manning, Fred Jackson
Team E gives: Philip Rivers, Andre Brown, Tyler Eifert, 2014 2nd (fringe playoff)
Week 8
Team C gives: Leonard Hankerson
Team D gives: 2014 2nd (same pick in prior deal)
Week 9:
Team D gives: Andre Brown, Steve Smith
Team F gives: Mark Ingram, Kenbrell Thompkins
Team B gives: Trent Richardson
Team G gives: C.J. Spiller, Rueben Randle, 2014 2nd (mid round)
Team B gives: Stevan Ridley, Jordan Reed, (2) 2014 2nds (fringe playoff/2.08-2.12)
Team C gives: Mike Goodson, Mike James, Doug Martin
Week 10
Team F gives: Andre Brown, David Wilson, 2014 3rd (late)
Team H gives: Reggie Bush, Shonn Greene
Team A gives: Tim Wright
Team C gives: 2014 2nd (fringe playoff)
Team B gives: Victor Cruz, 2014 1st (fringe playoff)
Team I gives: Julio Jones
Team A is the worst team in the league
Team B made a lot of nice moves, had a really nice team for the future
Team C has consistently been a playoff team the last few years
Team D is rebuilding
Team E is a fringe playoff team who could make a run with Peyton
Team F is making a run for the title, has a good core
Team G is another fringe playoff team
Team H took over the team at the end of the season, has a decent looking roster for the future
Team I has scored the most points in the league, but had Julio and Wayne kill his WR corps
r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 Team PPR, QRRWWTKFF
Week 10
Team A gives: Cordarrelle Patterson
Team B gives: Knowshon Moreno
Team A made the title game last year after some luck, will make playoffs again this season
Team B has just about locked up 1.01, solid core moving forward.
Week 10
Team A gives: Cordarrelle Patterson
Team B gives: Knowshon Moreno
Team A made the title game last year after some luck, will make playoffs again this season
Team B has just about locked up 1.01, solid core moving forward.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 Team PPR, QRRWWTKF
Week 1
Team A gives: Brent Celek
Team B gives: 2014 2nd (playoff team)
Team C gives: 2014 2nd (fringe playoff)
Team D gives: Joique Bell
Week 8
Team A gives: Le'Veon Bell, T.Y. Hilton, Kenbrell Thompkins
Team E gives: LeSean McCoy, 2014 2nd (mid round)
Week 9
Team F gives: Jordan Reed, 2014 3rd (3.01)
Team G gives: Michael Floyd
Week 10
Team A gives: 2014 2nd (mid round)
Team F gives: Tony Gonzalez
Team A probably makes the title game barring a semifinal matchup v. Team F
Team B is a playoff team
Team C is a fringe team
Team D is the worst team in the league
Team E has a solid roster now and is surging, could make playoffs in 2014
Team F has won back to back titles, currently 5-5, most PF
Team G is tied with team F for division,
Week 1
Team A gives: Brent Celek
Team B gives: 2014 2nd (playoff team)
Team C gives: 2014 2nd (fringe playoff)
Team D gives: Joique Bell
Week 8
Team A gives: Le'Veon Bell, T.Y. Hilton, Kenbrell Thompkins
Team E gives: LeSean McCoy, 2014 2nd (mid round)
Week 9
Team F gives: Jordan Reed, 2014 3rd (3.01)
Team G gives: Michael Floyd
Week 10
Team A gives: 2014 2nd (mid round)
Team F gives: Tony Gonzalez
Team A probably makes the title game barring a semifinal matchup v. Team F
Team B is a playoff team
Team C is a fringe team
Team D is the worst team in the league
Team E has a solid roster now and is surging, could make playoffs in 2014
Team F has won back to back titles, currently 5-5, most PF
Team G is tied with team F for division,
r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 Team PPR, QRRWWWTKDF
Week 7
Team A gives: Heath Miller
Team B gives: Ronnie Hillman
Team C gives: Brandon Weeden
Team D gives: 2014 3rd (late)
Week 7
Team A gives: Heath Miller
Team B gives: Ronnie Hillman
Team C gives: Brandon Weeden
Team D gives: 2014 3rd (late)
r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 Team PPR QRRWWTKDF
Week 7
Team A gives: Reggie Wayne, 2014 4th
Team B gives: Andy Dalton
Team C gives: Terrelle Pryor, Ryan Mathews, Daryl Richardson, A.J. Green, Jordan Cameron
Team D gives: Alex Smith, Trent Richardson, James Starks, Alshon Jeffrey, Rob Gronkowski, 2014 1st (anywhere from 1.06-1.12)
Week 8
Team C gives: Darren McFadden, Brandon Marshall
Team E gives: Doug Martin, Randall Cobb
Team C gives: Alex Smith, Panthers DST
Team F gives: Michael Floyd, Broncos DST
Week 9
Team E gives: Colin Kaepernick, Markus Wheaton
Team G gives: Ryan Tannehill, Harry Douglas
Team F gives: 2014 1st (1.09-1.12)
Team G gives: Jason Witten
Week 11
Team E gives: Josh Gordon
Team G gives: Chris Johnson, Marques Colston
Team B gives: Michael Crabtree, Julius Thomas
Team H gives: Zac Stacy, Ryan Williams, 2014 2nd (probably around 2.05)
Last league, hope this helps!
Week 7
Team A gives: Reggie Wayne, 2014 4th
Team B gives: Andy Dalton
Team C gives: Terrelle Pryor, Ryan Mathews, Daryl Richardson, A.J. Green, Jordan Cameron
Team D gives: Alex Smith, Trent Richardson, James Starks, Alshon Jeffrey, Rob Gronkowski, 2014 1st (anywhere from 1.06-1.12)
Week 8
Team C gives: Darren McFadden, Brandon Marshall
Team E gives: Doug Martin, Randall Cobb
Team C gives: Alex Smith, Panthers DST
Team F gives: Michael Floyd, Broncos DST
Week 9
Team E gives: Colin Kaepernick, Markus Wheaton
Team G gives: Ryan Tannehill, Harry Douglas
Team F gives: 2014 1st (1.09-1.12)
Team G gives: Jason Witten
Week 11
Team E gives: Josh Gordon
Team G gives: Chris Johnson, Marques Colston
Team B gives: Michael Crabtree, Julius Thomas
Team H gives: Zac Stacy, Ryan Williams, 2014 2nd (probably around 2.05)
Last league, hope this helps!
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Nice buy, I'd buy everywhere at that price no matter how frustrating owning him is. And I like Kelce.
jeter23
Footballguy
Yeah, I bought with an off-season/early season flip in mind. DMC wouldn't have to do much for me to get a 2nd rounder. 3 good games and I should be able to get a 1st.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Disagree on that (i think they're equal, but I like getting a stud qb in dynasty), but neither first should have been included.That's really, really bad. Gordon alone > Andrew Luck in 1 QB setups.
Riffraff
Footballguy
Disagree on Gordon, he's a knucklehead that enjoys suspension time. Luck is the opposite.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
12 Tm QRRWWWTF 1PPR for all
Gave: Reed, 1st (curr 5, likely 4-8), A.Dalton
Got: Gronk
Trade took place right before the games kicked off/Reed injury. Big Reed fan, but very happy about this deal, despite the likely value of the pick, in a strong class.
12 Tm QRRWWWTF 1PPR for all
Gave: D.Murray, VJax, Eifert
Got: C.Patterson, 1st (Curr 3, likely 2-5), R.Williams (likely next cut)
I lost value on this, but would do it again, if needed. Solid roster on paper - struggled due to injuries, mostly Gronk's and it's affect on Brady's numbers.
Gave: Reed, 1st (curr 5, likely 4-8), A.Dalton
Got: Gronk
Trade took place right before the games kicked off/Reed injury. Big Reed fan, but very happy about this deal, despite the likely value of the pick, in a strong class.
12 Tm QRRWWWTF 1PPR for all
Gave: D.Murray, VJax, Eifert
Got: C.Patterson, 1st (Curr 3, likely 2-5), R.Williams (likely next cut)
I lost value on this, but would do it again, if needed. Solid roster on paper - struggled due to injuries, mostly Gronk's and it's affect on Brady's numbers.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
It's more about supply / demand than a commentary on Luck. Or even Gordon, for that matter. If I were building an NFL franchise, Luck would be near to or at the very top of the list. In FF, you can find middling QB1 production for peanuts right now. Agree that Gordon is a knucklehead, but he's also put up pretty spectacular numbers in a pretty rough situation. I'd personally rather invest resources in "other than QB" right now, and roll with a Romo, Rivers, Big Ben, etc on the cheap.Disagree on Gordon, he's a knucklehead that enjoys suspension time. Luck is the opposite.
This.It's more about supply / demand than a commentary on Luck. Or even Gordon, for that matter. If I were building an NFL franchise, Luck would be near to or at the very top of the list. In FF, you can find middling QB1 production for peanuts right now. Agree that Gordon is a knucklehead, but he's also put up pretty spectacular numbers in a pretty rough situation. I'd personally rather invest resources in "other than QB" right now, and roll with a Romo, Rivers, Big Ben, etc on the cheap.Disagree on Gordon, he's a knucklehead that enjoys suspension time. Luck is the opposite.
Also hard to see if CLE drafts a QB how Gordon's stock doesn't get a serious bump up so waiting 5 weeks and hoping Gordon can keep his nose clean his value will just increase.
Anyway I get the love affair with Luck and having a true #1 QB but in fantasy week to week I don't see Luck being JGordon + 2 1sts better than Tannehill. Especially considering you have Peyton and the QB class next year looks to have some pretty solid prospects
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Concept Coop
Footballguy
It's close. I like Lacy more than Rice, enough to justify making this deal. But, again, it's close.
Bamac
Footballguy
Good move for 2014+. Even assuming Murray and VJax hold their value, you could probably get them both back with that pick next June. By moving them, you offload the (non-trivial) risk of injury onto someone else.
Think I still like the Rice side better but can hardly fault anyone for making a deal like that if they think Rice is nearing the end.
Spin
Footballguy
I think I would prefer the Rice / Pierce side, but guess it just shows how close it is.
EBF
Footballguy
Pretty bad for the side shipping Thomas. Unless Rice gets a second wind, he's gonna have to hit a home run with that pick to break even.
