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*** Official Jaguars Thread - Team Putting #DTWD to The Test *** (2 Viewers)

So Mark Dominik tweeted that through Jaguars have their guy and he has a defensive background.

Only one that fits that description is Mike Smith.

A) At least it's not Marrone and maybe they'll make a clean sweep.

B) A lot depends on what OC he brings in. He better not keep Hackett.

C) My biggest concern is he made some critical GameDay blunders in ATL as far as clock management,  timeouts.

 
It would be a major bummer if they cannot get a solid coach. It's among the best open jobs, IMO. You could argue the Rams, but I like the young talent they have.

 
I'm "OK" with Mike Smith, I guess.

But why even hire a search firm if you're just going to settle on David Caldwell's apparent choice from day 1?

 
Starting to think this is like the plot line from Major League.

Lose early, lose often and do what you can to turn off the fanbase.

 
So sounds like Marrone got the job because he was on the Bortles train. 

Great so Caldwell calling shots and doubling down on his guy Bortles. I guess that 5th year option is gonna get picked up for sure now.

JFC

 
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Tom Coughlin may be old but he's still smart enough run the other way screaming into the night.

They said he recommended Marrone. Maybe more like " the only guy willing to do what you want is probably Doug Marrone ".

 
This brings brings up an interesting thought and maybe it's been covered before...

Back when the NFL was awesome, you had way more owners that understood football operations. Now, it seems anyway, like a lot of the perennially bad teams are owned by guys that just happened to be rich enough to own a team.

Going to have to find a chart of teams and how long they've been owned by the current regime...

 
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I think this was a great hire for a couple reasons.  Ok maybe "great" isn't the word, but Marrone is underrated.  He took a Syracuse team that had a near 10 year winning season drought, back to a title and a winning record.  He gave the bills their first winning record in 10 seasons, and then quit.  People like to look at the 15-17 record and that he left and think he sucked and got fired.  Not the case.

Not saying he's amazing, but he's a solid hire for the above reasons, and also that they get to anchor him with Coughlin. 

Perhaps the main reason is that with LA, SF, Denver, etc jobs on the market, Jacksonville has to be one of, if not the least desirable coaching jobs to go to.  Constant failure there, small fan base, not necessarily a TON to work with, and a bad season.  They weren't gonna get one of the big names, and if they waited too long, they could have lost Marrone too as there are more jobs than good candidates.  Good of them to shore him up when they did.

 
Deamon said:
I think this was a great hire for a couple reasons.  Ok maybe "great" isn't the word, but Marrone is underrated.  He took a Syracuse team that had a near 10 year winning season drought, back to a title and a winning record.  He gave the bills their first winning record in 10 seasons, and then quit.  People like to look at the 15-17 record and that he left and think he sucked and got fired.  Not the case.

Not saying he's amazing, but he's a solid hire for the above reasons, and also that they get to anchor him with Coughlin. 

Perhaps the main reason is that with LA, SF, Denver, etc jobs on the market, Jacksonville has to be one of, if not the least desirable coaching jobs to go to.  Constant failure there, small fan base, not necessarily a TON to work with, and a bad season.  They weren't gonna get one of the big names, and if they waited too long, they could have lost Marrone too as there are more jobs than good candidates.  Good of them to shore him up when they did.
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Agree and don't get all the hate here.  Although i'm not sure about it being one of the least desirable jobs. I'd say it's in somewhere in the middle. There's talent there.

 
Tool said:
Agree and don't get all the hate here.  Although i'm not sure about it being one of the least desirable jobs. I'd say it's in somewhere in the middle. There's talent there.
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The hate stems from anyone who watched a Marrone coached team in the pros.

 
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Gandalf said:
The hate stems from anyone who watched a Marrone coached team in the pros.
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Can you be a bit more specific? I really haven't followed his coaching that closely but my memory was that he had a good season in Buffalo and then opted out of his contract.

 
Tool said:
Can you be a bit more specific? I really haven't followed his coaching that closely but my memory was that he had a good season in Buffalo and then opted out of his contract.
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Martine was terrible. The other coaches didn't like him, the O-line (supposedly his forte) was awful, the offense was a total wreck, his in game management was so overly conservative it was comical (he was always good for a punt from the opponent's 40 yard line down 20 in the 4th quarter) and he had no ability to motivate the players. The only reason the team was successful at all was Schwartz's #1 defense that was totally dominating.

 
GroveDiesel said:
Martine was terrible. The other coaches didn't like him, the O-line (supposedly his forte) was awful, the offense was a total wreck, his in game management was so overly conservative it was comical (he was always good for a punt from the opponent's 40 yard line down 20 in the 4th quarter) and he had no ability to motivate the players. The only reason the team was successful at all was Schwartz's #1 defense that was totally dominating.
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100% agreed and for cherry on the top he's the only coach I know to quit his team to be an assistant coach.

 
As a Bills fan, this hire is laughable until Marrone leads Jacksonville into the playoffs, which all of us know deep down is going to happen because this kind of thing is how Buffalo rolls.

 
GroveDiesel said:
Martine was terrible. The other coaches didn't like him, the O-line (supposedly his forte) was awful, the offense was a total wreck, his in game management was so overly conservative it was comical (he was always good for a punt from the opponent's 40 yard line down 20 in the 4th quarter) and he had no ability to motivate the players. The only reason the team was successful at all was Schwartz's #1 defense that was totally dominating.
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+2. And the play calling on offense was terrible.

 
Hard to believe this franchise cares at all about winning. Maybe they are trying to move to London? London Silly Nannies

 
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A couple things-

- the reason I hate this is because if you thought Marrone was the guy,  fire Gus when .500 was still mathematically possible because that could win this pathetic division. 

- other reason I hate is that it appears GM (in reduced role) and both coordinators are back for a team picking in Top 5 - again. Yeah, Wash will run his own system instead of Gus' but C'mon you're 3-13.

- one reason I like is because 10am press conference slated to begin at 955. Seriously. Hopefully Coughlin acts as buffer between Khan and Caldwell but still unsure how this works out.

- disagree with job being undesirable.  Only thing making it undesirable was keeping Caldwell and thus Bortles. Ton of cap room, loads of young talent. As far as small fan base, go piss off Jaguars twitter and get back to me. I don't think a guy like Harold Goodwin would turn them down. Nor would Make Smith. 

But Marrone was Coughlin's guy so the point is moot.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
This brings brings up an interesting thought and maybe it's been covered before...

Back when the NFL was awesome, you had way more owners that understood football operations. Now, it seems anyway, like a lot of the perennially bad teams are owned by guys that just happened to be rich enough to own a team.

Going to have to find a chart of teams and how long they've been owned by the current regime...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_franchise_owners

Some of these are a little misleading in a way since they show the year the most recent principal took over, even though it might be the same family for a long time.

 
10 AM news conference slated to start at 955, actually began at 951.

Coughlin has final say on 53.

coordinators not set yet. Hackett had less than glowing support.

Coughlin says Blake is QB. But also says he wants smart physical ten that doesn't turn it over. I dunno man.

Somebody asked Coughlin if winning was the focus. 

Coughlin went off.  "Is that the focus? Why the hell else are you here?"

 
TC being back is exactly what this franchise needs. He said it's all about winning and asked what else is there. Contrast that with the loser coach who said winning wasn't important.

 
JaxBill said:
10 AM news conference slated to start at 955, actually began at 951.

Coughlin has final say on 53.

coordinators not set yet. Hackett had less than glowing support.

Coughlin says Blake is QB. But also says he wants smart physical ten that doesn't turn it over. I dunno man.

Somebody asked Coughlin if winning was the focus. 

Coughlin went off.  "Is that the focus? Why the hell else are you here?"
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RIP Blake :excited:

 
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