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If you liked it, great. If you didn't, I'm sorry. Let's not waste time trying to convince anyone else why the finale was good/crap,
Seriously.If you liked it, great. If you didn't, I'm sorry. Let's not waste time trying to convince anyone else why the finale was good/crap,
Seriously.It is easy to tell who was caught hook, line and sinker by the Jacob and the candidates BS.I don't think anybody here is unhappy, other than you.That's not it. Let's just start with the entire series didn't make any sense. It had a beginning, middle and end but none of it made sense. You'll probably be a little happier if you think of it like that.My understanding is that the Island and all that was real, it was teh sideways world that happened after they were all dead. Which really doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
I liked it. You didn't. Either way, I'm not silly enough to let a TV show make me mad, Mr. Internet Angry Guy.It is easy to tell who was caught hook, line and sinker by the Jacob and the candidates BS.I don't think anybody here is unhappy, other than you.That's not it. Let's just start with the entire series didn't make any sense. It had a beginning, middle and end but none of it made sense. You'll probably be a little happier if you think of it like that.My understanding is that the Island and all that was real, it was teh sideways world that happened after they were all dead. Which really doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
yes, Matthew Fox is answeringIs Kimmel on right now? I think my stupid local station is showing a glorified cable access show with Tim McCarver interviewing Joe Morgan.
Thanks a lot local ABC station.yes, Matthew Fox is speakingIs Kimmel on right now? I think my stupid local station is showing a glorified cable access show with Tim McCarver interviewing Joe Morgan.
http://www.firstrow.net/watch/16183/2/watch-abc.html
Plenty of stuff happened on the show that didn't involve Jack.Fox is on Kimmel now saying that he believes that the show was a look at Jack's "test" to get into his ideal afterlife (heaven or what have you). He was led into that theory by Kimmel, but he definitely agreed with it without hesitation.Implication being that each person could have their own purgatory alternate timeline but that this series dealt with Jack's specifically.
Agreed. I think it's interesting to look at the show as being Jack's test but for me that's not satisfying because for me the show was about all of the characters. Jack was obviously important but the show worked for me because of all of them.Plenty of stuff happened on the show that didn't involve Jack.Fox is on Kimmel now saying that he believes that the show was a look at Jack's "test" to get into his ideal afterlife (heaven or what have you). He was led into that theory by Kimmel, but he definitely agreed with it without hesitation.Implication being that each person could have their own purgatory alternate timeline but that this series dealt with Jack's specifically.
11. Numbers12. Dogan and the hippie @ the TempleMAJOR PLOTLINES ON LOST THAT TURNED OUT TO BE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT1. "Walt is really special"2. "Sayid kills a bunch of people for Ben"3. "Mr. Eko"4. "People on the island can't have babies"5. "Faraday"6. "Eloise Hawking"7. "Widmore v. Ben"8. "NOT PENNY'S BOAT"9. "You're a candidate"10. "Jacob brought people to the island"
Ilana? Was she necesary?11. Numbers12. Dogan and the hippie @ the TempleMAJOR PLOTLINES ON LOST THAT TURNED OUT TO BE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT1. "Walt is really special"2. "Sayid kills a bunch of people for Ben"3. "Mr. Eko"4. "People on the island can't have babies"5. "Faraday"6. "Eloise Hawking"7. "Widmore v. Ben"8. "NOT PENNY'S BOAT"9. "You're a candidate"10. "Jacob brought people to the island"
Hint: you didn't get it.You're content with the idea that they have been dead all along? Honestly?Outstanding finale.
they weren't dead all along. Just in the sideways world. Jack died on the island in the final scene.You're content with the idea that they have been dead all along? Honestly?Outstanding finale.
I agree with this. Jack has his chance for redemption on the island. I didn't really see a reason for the sideways purgatory at all. With that said, I'm satisfied. This has been a hell of a show.My understanding is that the Island and all that was real, it was teh sideways world that happened after they were all dead. Which really doesn't make a whole lot of sense.I think if they hadn't introduced the sideways world and just made this season all about on the island stuff, it would have been better. End the finale with the same island scenes and none of the sideways stuff and I'd like it a lot.
14. Hot chick and her boyfriend and a suitcase full of diamonds15. Libby being at Hurley's insane asylum and selling Desmond her boat16. Dharma was actually pretty superflous as wellIlana? Was she necesary?11. Numbers12. Dogan and the hippie @ the TempleMAJOR PLOTLINES ON LOST THAT TURNED OUT TO BE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT1. "Walt is really special"2. "Sayid kills a bunch of people for Ben"3. "Mr. Eko"4. "People on the island can't have babies"5. "Faraday"6. "Eloise Hawking"7. "Widmore v. Ben"8. "NOT PENNY'S BOAT"9. "You're a candidate"10. "Jacob brought people to the island"
He was written out because he didn't want to live in Hawaii anymore. He was intended to have a much larger role.MAJOR PLOTLINES ON LOST THAT TURNED OUT TO BE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT
1. "Walt is really special"
2. "Sayid kills a bunch of people for Ben"
3. "Mr. Eko"
4. "People on the island can't have babies"
5. "Faraday"
6. "Eloise Hawking"
7. "Widmore v. Ben"
8. "NOT PENNY'S BOAT"
9. "You're a candidate"
10. "Jacob brought people to the island"
Was the island under water in the sideways world or the real island worldThat seems confusingSo what effect did Jughead have? If any?
DHARMAI think it's funny that the producers/writers swore up and down that purgatory had nothing to do with it during the first season and here we are. I guess they can claim that the island wasn't purgatory in Season 1, but whatever. Seems lime there's still a lot of unanswered questions about the island itself.Ilana? Was she necesary?11. Numbers12. Dogan and the hippie @ the TempleMAJOR PLOTLINES ON LOST THAT TURNED OUT TO BE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT1. "Walt is really special"2. "Sayid kills a bunch of people for Ben"3. "Mr. Eko"4. "People on the island can't have babies"5. "Faraday"6. "Eloise Hawking"7. "Widmore v. Ben"8. "NOT PENNY'S BOAT"9. "You're a candidate"10. "Jacob brought people to the island"
Not buying it.Fox is on Kimmel now saying that he believes that the show was a look at Jack's "test" to get into his ideal afterlife (heaven or what have you). He was led into that theory by Kimmel, but he definitely agreed with it without hesitation.Implication being that each person could have their own purgatory alternate timeline but that this series dealt with Jack's specifically.
What do you mean "irrelevant"? Without all this stuff, there wouldn't be a show.11. Numbers12. Dogan and the hippie @ the TempleMAJOR PLOTLINES ON LOST THAT TURNED OUT TO BE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT1. "Walt is really special"2. "Sayid kills a bunch of people for Ben"3. "Mr. Eko"4. "People on the island can't have babies"5. "Faraday"6. "Eloise Hawking"7. "Widmore v. Ben"8. "NOT PENNY'S BOAT"9. "You're a candidate"10. "Jacob brought people to the island"
Should be funny.anyone have any clue what the 3 alternate endings could have?
I said before the finale that I would judge the whole series based on this finale. I think that's what happened. It was good. I will probably rewatch bits and pieces, but I'm not in a huge hurry, and I may never go back through all of it. I don't feel cheated. I liked it. But it didn't live up to the hopes I'd had, either.
It was a good show. Sad to see it over.

"Should we tell everybody what our show is about in season one and keep the message board nerds happy, or keep it a secret, make millions and entertain tons of people in the process?"I think it's funny that the producers/writers swore up and down that purgatory had nothing to do with it during the first season and here we are.
Exactly...the thought that "not penny's boat" was a broken plotline?how is that line a broken plot line?There were plenty of unanswered things...in the end...the story stood up and stood up well.Why do irrelevant storylines detract from your enjoyment of the show?Star Wars was all about Anakin's redemption, should we scour through episodes 4-6 for all the irrelevant crap in there (Han and Leia in the Asteriod/Creature for instance)? Or do we just accept it for what it is and enjoy it?
The Island never was purgatory.DHARMAI think it's funny that the producers/writers swore up and down that purgatory had nothing to do with it during the first season and here we are. I guess they can claim that the island wasn't purgatory in Season 1, but whatever. Seems lime there's still a lot of unanswered questions about the island itself.Ilana? Was she necesary?11. Numbers12. Dogan and the hippie @ the TempleMAJOR PLOTLINES ON LOST THAT TURNED OUT TO BE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT1. "Walt is really special"2. "Sayid kills a bunch of people for Ben"3. "Mr. Eko"4. "People on the island can't have babies"5. "Faraday"6. "Eloise Hawking"7. "Widmore v. Ben"8. "NOT PENNY'S BOAT"9. "You're a candidate"10. "Jacob brought people to the island"
also, they specifically said that the island wasn't purgatory. If the flash sideways was purgatory, they technically weren't lying."Should we tell everybody what our show is about in season one and keep the message board nerds happy, or keep it a secret, make millions and entertain tons of people in the process?"I think it's funny that the producers/writers swore up and down that purgatory had nothing to do with it during the first season and here we are.
The quick dispatch of MIB is a little disappointing, but make sense if whole pt. was chars and their redemption/story.Dharam/button/others/jacob/mib all become props in the big picture.Again, each char moving through their epiphany was rewarding imo. Nice cap on good char devel.

11. Numbers - I don't have a huge problem with this, since the remaining numbers were very important in the context of Hurley's life, as the guy who would eventually take over the island, and when he used them wrong, bad things happened. I don't have the slightest idea why they would have been carved into the hatch, though. If it had something to do with the computer put in place by the Dharma initiative, then how did those numbers come to be so important at that time? Why weren't 7 and 82 important in the 70s? 12. Dogan and the hippie @ the Temple - Those guys were part of the mythology of the island. Jacob had developed something over the centuries. We got a glimpse with Dogan, and learned something about the magical/healing power of water on the island.MAJOR PLOTLINES ON LOST THAT TURNED OUT TO BE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT1. "Walt is really special" - It seems like taller ghost walt got written out of the story, but he was the raison d-etat for the Michael storyline, and his redemption, if you can call it that. Michael went from a father who got separated from his son and whose son didn't care about him to a much closer relationship. But I agree that we got left hanging here somewhat. 2. "Sayid kills a bunch of people for Ben" - Everyone - including Ben - told Sayid what he was. His character's plot arc was learning that if you're a good person, and people tell you that you're a bad one, and you do bad things, you can still find redemption. Or something like that. 3. "Mr. Eko" - Left for non-show related reasons. 4. "People on the island can't have babies" - Depends on your interpretation of the island, but I think it makes sense that babies couldn't be born into purgatory, if that's what you think was going on. It makes sense that babies couldn't be conceived on a magical island so close to electromagnetism and evil, I guess. The nature of the island is still a bit of a mystery and I'm fine with this being part of the mythology. 5. "Faraday" - I don't get the time travel thing at all. 6. "Eloise Hawking" - She didn't want the cast members to move on, because she didn't want Farraday to move on. Because she killed him, and knew it, before raising him. In the alternate timeline, she didn't want to let him go. 7. "Widmore v. Ben" - We learned that Ben was being manipulated by the smoke monster, and we know that Jacob directly contacted Widmore at one point. The details follow along with this. 8. "NOT PENNY'S BOAT" - It seems like the smoke monster set up Ben to set up Michael to get the candidates onto the boat and blow them up. 9. "You're a candidate" - See 10.10. "Jacob brought people to the island" - I think this was left open for interpretation because it depends if you believe the island was purgatory, or a test, or a real island, or a magical place where you had to keep the light from going out. But in each of those scenarios, this seems answerable, so I feel fine with it being left open.
Are you serious?I will be upset if the alt endings are some Kimmel bits
I started to have that feelingLameI will be upset if the alt endings are some Kimmel bits