*** Official Lost Season 6 *** (1 Viewer)

[Muddy Rubicon]

A bit late to the party, can someone explain the whole Norwood/Lost thing to me

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[Sea Ropes]

A bit late to the party, can someone explain the whole Norwood/Lost thing to me

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Scott Norwood is evil incarnate.

 

[ScottNorwood]

A bit late to the party, can someone explain the whole Norwood/Lost thing to me

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Scott Norwood is evil incarnate.

 

[GoFishTN]

The producers on Jimmy Kimmel said that john locke is not the MIB so this episode makes no sense

Well, maybe there is a trinity of factions involved then.1. Jacob2. MIB3. Scott Norwood (aka Smokey, aka Evil Locke)

As Sack mentioned above, they played with their words. They said he wasn't posessing him, i.e. real Locke's dead body has been in the coffin the whole time. MIB was appearing as Locke, so technically they were correct. Think of MIB/Smokey as Yemi. He appeared to Eko and Locke as Yemi was before he died. If he posessed Yemi, then he would have looked like a moldy old corpse.That is another reason why I still think Sayid, real Sayid, is alive, but I am not sure until we see how he acts. Maybe Jacob posesses bodies, no idea, but MIB/Smokey does not.

This might have been mentioned already, but I read a theory somewhere that anytime a dead person appears with white clothing (such as shoes) it's Jacob. Otherwise it's MIB.

 

[Mario Kart]

The producers on Jimmy Kimmel said that john locke is not the MIB so this episode makes no sense

Well, maybe there is a trinity of factions involved then.1. Jacob2. MIB3. Scott Norwood (aka Smokey, aka Evil Locke)

As Sack mentioned above, they played with their words. They said he wasn't posessing him, i.e. real Locke's dead body has been in the coffin the whole time. MIB was appearing as Locke, so technically they were correct. Think of MIB/Smokey as Yemi. He appeared to Eko and Locke as Yemi was before he died. If he posessed Yemi, then he would have looked like a moldy old corpse.That is another reason why I still think Sayid, real Sayid, is alive, but I am not sure until we see how he acts. Maybe Jacob posesses bodies, no idea, but MIB/Smokey does not.

This might have been mentioned already, but I read a theory somewhere that anytime a dead person appears with white clothing (such as shoes) it's Jacob. Otherwise it's MIB.

Why would MIB show up to Kate as a horse? Is he in to that kind of thing?

 

[SmoovySmoov]

The producers on Jimmy Kimmel said that john locke is not the MIB so this episode makes no sense

Well, maybe there is a trinity of factions involved then.1. Jacob2. MIB3. Scott Norwood (aka Smokey, aka Evil Locke)

As Sack mentioned above, they played with their words. They said he wasn't posessing him, i.e. real Locke's dead body has been in the coffin the whole time. MIB was appearing as Locke, so technically they were correct. Think of MIB/Smokey as Yemi. He appeared to Eko and Locke as Yemi was before he died. If he posessed Yemi, then he would have looked like a moldy old corpse.That is another reason why I still think Sayid, real Sayid, is alive, but I am not sure until we see how he acts. Maybe Jacob posesses bodies, no idea, but MIB/Smokey does not.

This might have been mentioned already, but I read a theory somewhere that anytime a dead person appears with white clothing (such as shoes) it's Jacob. Otherwise it's MIB.

Why would MIB show up to Kate as a horse? Is he in to that kind of thing?

I always thought the horse vision was a nod to Twin Peaks, but I could be wrong.

 

[Sea Ropes]

The producers on Jimmy Kimmel said that john locke is not the MIB so this episode makes no sense

Well, maybe there is a trinity of factions involved then.1. Jacob2. MIB3. Scott Norwood (aka Smokey, aka Evil Locke)

As Sack mentioned above, they played with their words. They said he wasn't posessing him, i.e. real Locke's dead body has been in the coffin the whole time. MIB was appearing as Locke, so technically they were correct. Think of MIB/Smokey as Yemi. He appeared to Eko and Locke as Yemi was before he died. If he posessed Yemi, then he would have looked like a moldy old corpse.That is another reason why I still think Sayid, real Sayid, is alive, but I am not sure until we see how he acts. Maybe Jacob posesses bodies, no idea, but MIB/Smokey does not.

This might have been mentioned already, but I read a theory somewhere that anytime a dead person appears with white clothing (such as shoes) it's Jacob. Otherwise it's MIB.

Why would MIB

Norwood.

 

[stbugs]

The producers on Jimmy Kimmel said that john locke is not the MIB so this episode makes no sense

Well, maybe there is a trinity of factions involved then.1. Jacob2. MIB3. Scott Norwood (aka Smokey, aka Evil Locke)

As Sack mentioned above, they played with their words. They said he wasn't posessing him, i.e. real Locke's dead body has been in the coffin the whole time. MIB was appearing as Locke, so technically they were correct. Think of MIB/Smokey as Yemi. He appeared to Eko and Locke as Yemi was before he died. If he posessed Yemi, then he would have looked like a moldy old corpse.That is another reason why I still think Sayid, real Sayid, is alive, but I am not sure until we see how he acts. Maybe Jacob posesses bodies, no idea, but MIB/Smokey does not.

This might have been mentioned already, but I read a theory somewhere that anytime a dead person appears with white clothing (such as shoes) it's Jacob. Otherwise it's MIB.

I think that makes perfect sense when the visions are people. As many have mentioned, I really hope they do a good job with the DVDs after the series is over. Definitely the Lost in me, but I actually would love to know who was behind each vision while rewatching it. I think it will be pretty cool just to see what groundwork they layed down and how early we actually saw hints about Jacob and MIB. Sorry Norwood, I like you too much to call you that.

 

[Mjolnirs]

A bit late to the party, can someone explain the whole Norwood/Lost thing to me

I don't get it either.

 

[GoFishTN]

The producers on Jimmy Kimmel said that john locke is not the MIB so this episode makes no sense

Well, maybe there is a trinity of factions involved then.1. Jacob2. MIB3. Scott Norwood (aka Smokey, aka Evil Locke)

As Sack mentioned above, they played with their words. They said he wasn't posessing him, i.e. real Locke's dead body has been in the coffin the whole time. MIB was appearing as Locke, so technically they were correct. Think of MIB/Smokey as Yemi. He appeared to Eko and Locke as Yemi was before he died. If he posessed Yemi, then he would have looked like a moldy old corpse.That is another reason why I still think Sayid, real Sayid, is alive, but I am not sure until we see how he acts. Maybe Jacob posesses bodies, no idea, but MIB/Smokey does not.

This might have been mentioned already, but I read a theory somewhere that anytime a dead person appears with white clothing (such as shoes) it's Jacob. Otherwise it's MIB.

Why would MIB show up to Kate as a horse? Is he in to that kind of thing?

I was thinking the horse was white, but you're right it was black.

 

[Twilight]

A bit late to the party, can someone explain the whole Norwood/Lost thing to me

I don't get it either.

It's just Truck trying to fish the Lost thread. Ignore it.

 

[Eggs]

anybody catch the LOST based commercial? Didn't get to hear it, but could tell it was based on the show...

 

[kaa]

Perhaps Jack sensing Desmond was familiar on flight 815 has something to do with why Daniel wrote in his journal "If anything goes wrong, Desmond Hume will be my constant." As taken from http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Constant

Eloise's brain short-circuited, she couldn't tell the difference between the past, the present or the future, as she didn't have anything to attach herself to: she did not have a constant. Daniel tells him about the need for Desmond to have a constant, something that is present in both times and that he sincerely cares about and can recognize.

Perhaps any losties on flight 815 that doesn't crash that comes into contact with Desmond will feel a sense of familiarity.

 

[Statorama]

anybody catch the LOST based commercial? Didn't get to hear it, but could tell it was based on the show...

Bud Light had one, although on the surface it was just about a plane crash where they were more interested in the contents of the beverage cart (Bud Light) than a working radio (which they later turned to music).On a side note, Bud Light also had a commercial about a team of scientists tracking an asteroid heading toward Earth. The scientists were led by the guy that plays Dr Pierre Chang (aka Dr. Marvin Candle, Dr. Mark Wickmund and Dr. Edgar Halliwax.)

 

[Scott Norwoods Mom]

A bit late to the party, can someone explain the whole Norwood/Lost thing to me

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Scott Norwood is evil incarnate.

Scotties a good boy, he just has evil friends that are bad influences.

 

[ScottNorwood]

A bit late to the party, can someone explain the whole Norwood/Lost thing to me

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Scott Norwood is evil incarnate.

Scotties a good boy, he just has evil friends that are bad influences.

 

[SuperJohn96]

A bit late to the party, can someone explain the whole Norwood/Lost thing to me

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Scott Norwood is evil incarnate.

Scotties a good boy, he just has evil friends that are bad influences.

[Mark Wahlberg]Yo dawg...say hi to your Mother!

[/Mark Wahlberg]

 

[SuperJohn96]

The producers on Jimmy Kimmel said that john locke is not the MIB so this episode makes no sense

Well, maybe there is a trinity of factions involved then.1. Jacob2. MIB3. Scott Norwood (aka Smokey, aka Evil Locke)

As Sack mentioned above, they played with their words. They said he wasn't posessing him, i.e. real Locke's dead body has been in the coffin the whole time. MIB was appearing as Locke, so technically they were correct. Think of MIB/Smokey as Yemi. He appeared to Eko and Locke as Yemi was before he died. If he posessed Yemi, then he would have looked like a moldy old corpse.That is another reason why I still think Sayid, real Sayid, is alive, but I am not sure until we see how he acts. Maybe Jacob posesses bodies, no idea, but MIB/Smokey does not.

This might have been mentioned already, but I read a theory somewhere that anytime a dead person appears with white clothing (such as shoes) it's Jacob. Otherwise it's MIB.

Why would MIB show up to Kate as a horse? Is he in to that kind of thing?

If I was a horse, I'd still want to do Kate.

 

[Sea Ropes]

A bit late to the party, can someone explain the whole Norwood/Lost thing to me

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Scott Norwood is evil incarnate.

Scotties a good boy, he just has evil friends that are bad influences.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Lots of good stuff here.When Smokie Locke says he wants to go home, first thing I thought of was Devil trying to re-enter heaven.

I got this vibe as well.

Agreed, although my take on it was that it probably wasn't THE devil, but that they're angels on each side battling it out.

Not THE God. A god.

 

[benztoronto]

Sorry if I missed/misunderstood earlier in the thread, but what is the explanation for the seemingingly paradoxical scenario of 2007 MIB-Locke telling Richard to tell 2004 time-shifting Locke that he's going to have to die?

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Sorry if I missed/misunderstood earlier in the thread, but what is the explanation for the seemingingly paradoxical scenario of 2007 MIB-Locke telling Richard to tell 2004 time-shifting Locke that he's going to have to die?

To plant the fact that he was going to have to die to get them all to come back, hence letting MIB inhabit him.

 

[Sea Ropes]

Sorry if I missed/misunderstood earlier in the thread, but what is the explanation for the seemingingly paradoxical scenario of 2007 MIB-Locke telling Richard to tell 2004 time-shifting Locke that he's going to have to die?

To plant the fact that he was going to have to die to get them all to come back, hence letting MIB inhabit him.

 

[benztoronto]

Sorry if I missed/misunderstood earlier in the thread, but what is the explanation for the seemingingly paradoxical scenario of 2007 MIB-Locke telling Richard to tell 2004 time-shifting Locke that he's going to have to die?

To plant the fact that he was going to have to die to get them all to come back, hence letting MIB inhabit him.

I don't think you're following. Isn't this a paradox? (i.e.MIB is already inhabiting him, etc.)

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Sorry if I missed/misunderstood earlier in the thread, but what is the explanation for the seemingingly paradoxical scenario of 2007 MIB-Locke telling Richard to tell 2004 time-shifting Locke that he's going to have to die?

To plant the fact that he was going to have to die to get them all to come back, hence letting MIB inhabit him.

I don't think you're following. Isn't this a paradox? (i.e.MIB is already inhabiting him, etc.)

Yes it is. It's also a show about Don't overthink it. Paradox Schmaradox.

ETA spoiler tags... just in case anyone isn't completely caught up.

 

[GoFishTN]

Sorry if I missed/misunderstood earlier in the thread, but what is the explanation for the seemingingly paradoxical scenario of 2007 MIB-Locke telling Richard to tell 2004 time-shifting Locke that he's going to have to die?

To plant the fact that he was going to have to die to get them all to come back, hence letting MIB inhabit him.

I don't think you're following. Isn't this a paradox? (i.e.MIB is already inhabiting him, etc.)

He's not inhabiting him. He's taken his form, so to speak. A shapeshifter.

 

[Sea Ropes]

Tonight I was consulting some outside sources re: the good/evil paradox, and I thought this was of particular interest:

The good guys dress in black remember thatJust in case we ever face to face and make contactThe title held by me -- M.I.B.Means what you think you saw, you did not seeSo don't blink be what was thereis now gone, black suit with the black Ray Ban's onWalk in shadow, move in silenceGuard against extra-terrestrial violenceBut yo we ain't on no government listWe straight don't exist, no names and no figerprintsSaw somethin strange, watch your back Cause you never quite know where the M.I.B.'s is atUh and...Here come the Men in Black (Men in Blaaaaack)Galaxy defenders (oahhaooohh ohhhhh)Here come the Men in Black (Men in Blaaaaack)They won't let you remember

 

[zDragon]

Not sure if this has been posted or not.

Jorge Garcia Podcast on the last season of lost.

http://feeds.feedburner.com/geronimojacksbeard

 

[piratemike]

 

[kaa]

I'm glad the writers have been able to keep everything clear and not make things convoluted at all.

 

[kaa]

Well, maybe there is a trinity of factions involved then.1. Jacob2. MIB3. Scott Norwood (aka Smokey, aka Evil Locke)

As Sack mentioned above, they played with their words. They said he wasn't posessing him, i.e. real Locke's dead body has been in the coffin the whole time. MIB was appearing as Locke, so technically they were correct. Think of MIB/Smokey as Yemi. He appeared to Eko and Locke as Yemi was before he died. If he posessed Yemi, then he would have looked like a moldy old corpse.That is another reason why I still think Sayid, real Sayid, is alive, but I am not sure until we see how he acts. Maybe Jacob posesses bodies, no idea, but MIB/Smokey does not.

This might have been mentioned already, but I read a theory somewhere that anytime a dead person appears with white clothing (such as shoes) it's Jacob. Otherwise it's MIB.

Why would MIB show up to Kate as a horse? Is he in to that kind of thing?

If I was a horse, I'd still want to do Kate.

Gives new meaning to the title of the next episode. "What Kate Does".

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Sorry if I missed/misunderstood earlier in the thread, but what is the explanation for the seemingingly paradoxical scenario of 2007 MIB-Locke telling Richard to tell 2004 time-shifting Locke that he's going to have to die?

To plant the fact that he was going to have to die to get them all to come back, hence letting MIB inhabit him.

I don't think you're following. Isn't this a paradox? (i.e.MIB is already inhabiting him, etc.)

To unpack further, MIB is Locke in shape-shifting form. He knows that Real Locke is jumping through time and in the same timeline. Instead of saying "oh hey, pay no attention to that other guy that looks like me", he instructs Richard to go tell Real Locke that he has to die, which starts the whole process to begin with. No?

 

[Lehigh98]

This might have been mentioned already, but I read a theory somewhere that anytime a dead person appears with white clothing (such as shoes) it's Jacob. Otherwise it's MIB.

I've seen a few people mention Jacob "inhabiting" or "possessing" someone, do we have any evidence that he can actually do this or is it just speculation? Even Norwood can't actually do this, he can just take their form.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Sorry if I missed/misunderstood earlier in the thread, but what is the explanation for the seemingingly paradoxical scenario of 2007 MIB-Locke telling Richard to tell 2004 time-shifting Locke that he's going to have to die?

To plant the fact that he was going to have to die to get them all to come back, hence letting MIB inhabit him.

I don't think you're following. Isn't this a paradox? (i.e.MIB is already inhabiting him, etc.)

To unpack further, MIB is Locke in shape-shifting form. He knows that Real Locke is jumping through time and in the same timeline. Instead of saying "oh hey, pay no attention to that other guy that looks like me", he instructs Richard to go tell Real Locke that he has to die, which starts the whole process to begin with. No?

Which would mean MIB is causing the event to happen after it has already happened. Paradox.This is assuming that MIB actually causes the event, though you can argue that he doesn't since Locke doesn't actually kill himself as suggested from MIB because Ben does it for him.

 

[harryhood]

This might have been mentioned already, but I read a theory somewhere that anytime a dead person appears with white clothing (such as shoes) it's Jacob. Otherwise it's MIB.

I've seen a few people mention Jacob "inhabiting" or "possessing" someone, do we have any evidence that he can actually do this or is it just speculation? Even Norwood can't actually do this, he can just take their form.

I'm buying into that theory until proven wrong(which could be as early as tonight). There just seems to be to much evidence to support it so I'll roll with that theory.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm glad the writers have been able to keep everything clear and not make things convoluted at all.

There's probably a Katherine Heigl movie on some channel tonight.

 

[stbugs]

This might have been mentioned already, but I read a theory somewhere that anytime a dead person appears with white clothing (such as shoes) it's Jacob. Otherwise it's MIB.

I've seen a few people mention Jacob "inhabiting" or "possessing" someone, do we have any evidence that he can actually do this or is it just speculation? Even Norwood can't actually do this, he can just take their form.

I'm buying into that theory until proven wrong(which could be as early as tonight). There just seems to be to much evidence to support it so I'll roll with that theory.

I kind of agree with this, but Lehigh98 is correct that I don't believe we have gotten evidence of Jacob appearing as someone else. Even before MIB told Ben he wished he hadn't seen him in smokey form, Lindelof and Cuse in an interview said that smokey did in fact appear as Yemi and others even though we all kind of knew that he was Yemi when he killed Eko.

 

[Kiddnets]

next episode tonight?

 

[sho nuff]

And Jin to be on Hawaii 5-0 remake...

http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/lost-star-tapped-...waii-fiveo--978

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

1. Where have the temple/Japanese dude and his folks been?

2. Is Jacob inhabiting Sayid now...or is it really Sayid? If not...then who/where is Jacob?

3. Is Jacob/MIB good vs evil...evil vs. good...or something else?

4. What did Japanese dude mean when he said the spring "wasn't right"? How about when he said that if Sayid died that they'd all be in trouble?

5. Does Rose still have cancer?

6. What are the rules about who can/is allowed to hurt/kill Jacob or MIB?

7. Jacob told MIB "they are coming". Who?

8. Where in the world is Widmore and how is he involved in all of this?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

1. Where have the temple/Japanese dude and his folks been? at the temple

2. Is Jacob inhabiting Sayid now...or is it really Sayid? If not...then who/where is Jacob? we dont know yet

3. Is Jacob/MIB good vs evil...evil vs. good...or something else? we dont know yet

4. What did Japanese dude mean when he said the spring "wasn't right"? How about when he said that if Sayid died that they'd all be in trouble? It wasnt clear water. It didnt heal his wound immediately. Not sure if his hand was healed later when we saw him or not. Not sure about sayid yet but being he was one of the people Jacob wanted back on the island, he probably needs to be alive for whatever Jacob needs . . .

5. Does Rose still have cancer? we dont know yet

6. What are the rules about who can/is allowed to hurt/kill Jacob or MIB? we dont know yet

7. Jacob told MIB "they are coming". Who? more likely than not, the people Jacob made sure he touched off island . . . i.e Jack etc

8. Where in the world is Widmore and how is he involved in all of this? we dont know yet

 

[SuperJohn96]

[ quote name=SuperJohn96' post='11461974' date='Feb 5 2010, 08:02 AM]Well, maybe there is a trinity of factions involved then.1. Jacob2. MIB3. Scott Norwood (aka Smokey, aka Evil Locke)[ /quote] As Sack mentioned above, they played with their words. They said he wasn't posessing him, i.e. real Locke's dead body has been in the coffin the whole time. MIB was appearing as Locke, so technically they were correct. Think of MIB/Smokey as Yemi. He appeared to Eko and Locke as Yemi was before he died. If he posessed Yemi, then he would have looked like a moldy old corpse.That is another reason why I still think Sayid, real Sayid, is alive, but I am not sure until we see how he acts. Maybe Jacob posesses bodies, no idea, but MIB/Smokey does not.

This might have been mentioned already, but I read a theory somewhere that anytime a dead person appears with white clothing (such as shoes) it's Jacob. Otherwise it's MIB.

Why would MIB show up to Kate as a horse? Is he in to that kind of thing?

If I was a horse, I'd still want to do Kate.

Gives new meaning to the title of the next episode. "What Kate Does".

Oops, horse....

 

[Sea Ropes]

Oops, horse....

SMYHC. :jaa:

 

[Bobcat10]

1. Where have the temple/Japanese dude and his folks been?

2. Is Jacob inhabiting Sayid now...or is it really Sayid? If not...then who/where is Jacob?

3. Is Jacob/MIB good vs evil...evil vs. good...or something else?

4. What did Japanese dude mean when he said the spring "wasn't right"? How about when he said that if Sayid died that they'd all be in trouble?

5. Does Rose still have cancer?

6. What are the rules about who can/is allowed to hurt/kill Jacob or MIB?

7. Jacob told MIB "they are coming". Who?

8. Where in the world is Widmore and how is he involved in all of this?

As I've been catching up on like 8 pages on and off this morning, this is the first mention of Widmore I believe. I was about to post a question like this. What made me think of him right away was the posting of the Jacob/Nemesis scene on the beach a few pages back. To me, that scene, along with the Ben/Widmore bedroom scene (OK that sounds gross), are easily two of the most fascinating scenes of the series. The beach scene might go down as an all time great by this summer.

 

[KGB]

Temple people = whispers me thinks

 

[GibbyGarcia]

This might have been mentioned already, but I read a theory somewhere that anytime a dead person appears with white clothing (such as shoes) it's Jacob. Otherwise it's MIB.

I've seen a few people mention Jacob "inhabiting" or "possessing" someone, do we have any evidence that he can actually do this or is it just speculation? Even Norwood can't actually do this, he can just take their form.

I'm buying into that theory until proven wrong(which could be as early as tonight). There just seems to be to much evidence to support it so I'll roll with that theory.

I kind of agree with this, but Lehigh98 is correct that I don't believe we have gotten evidence of Jacob appearing as someone else. Even before MIB told Ben he wished he hadn't seen him in smokey form, Lindelof and Cuse in an interview said that smokey did in fact appear as Yemi and others even though we all kind of knew that he was Yemi when he killed Eko.

I think the color of that water, and the shock that it wasn't clear, is going to be very important. Jacob's spirit perhaps?

 

[Sack-Religious]

This might have been mentioned already, but I read a theory somewhere that anytime a dead person appears with white clothing (such as shoes) it's Jacob. Otherwise it's MIB.

I've seen a few people mention Jacob "inhabiting" or "possessing" someone, do we have any evidence that he can actually do this or is it just speculation? Even Norwood can't actually do this, he can just take their form.

I'm buying into that theory until proven wrong(which could be as early as tonight). There just seems to be to much evidence to support it so I'll roll with that theory.

I kind of agree with this, but Lehigh98 is correct that I don't believe we have gotten evidence of Jacob appearing as someone else. Even before MIB told Ben he wished he hadn't seen him in smokey form, Lindelof and Cuse in an interview said that smokey did in fact appear as Yemi and others even though we all kind of knew that he was Yemi when he killed Eko.

I think the color of that water, and the shock that it wasn't clear, is going to be very important. Jacob's spirit perhaps?

Perhaps, since Jacob is always wearing white, he's "pure". With his death, the water was no longer clear and the folks in the Temple are no longer protected from Smokey.

 

[Sack-Religious]

As I've been catching up on like 8 pages on and off this morning, this is the first mention of Widmore I believe. I was about to post a question like this. What made me think of him right away was the posting of the Jacob/Nemesis scene on the beach a few pages back. To me, that scene, along with the Ben/Widmore bedroom scene (OK that sounds gross), are easily two of the most fascinating scenes of the series. The beach scene might go down as an all time great by this summer.

The Jacob/MIB and Ben/Widmore scene were very similar. While it didn't state it plainly, both appear to be playing by some set of "rules" that only they know.

 

[Tusken Raider]

As I've been catching up on like 8 pages on and off this morning, this is the first mention of Widmore I believe. I was about to post a question like this. What made me think of him right away was the posting of the Jacob/Nemesis scene on the beach a few pages back. To me, that scene, along with the Ben/Widmore bedroom scene (OK that sounds gross), are easily two of the most fascinating scenes of the series. The beach scene might go down as an all time great by this summer.

The Jacob/MIB and Ben/Widmore scene were very similar. While it didn't state it plainly, both appear to be playing by some set of "rules" that only they know.

The Ben/Widmore storyline needs some revisiting/closure, IMO.

 

[Sea Ropes]

Mild spoiler: