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*** Official Lost Season 6 *** (1 Viewer)

So TMIB is going to try and recruit Kate next? What kind of apple can he offer her?
The impression I got at the end was he didn't expect Kate to be there but didn't have a problem with it. It's like he got a bonus gift with her coming along.Anybody else have the same feeling about his reaction to seeing Kate or am I off base there?
:lmao: Dead on with his reaction. He was absolutely surprised that she came along, but since she came he didn't have an issue with it.
 
Everyone who is complaining - I hear ya, but:

1. The producers have said multiple times "Enjoy the ride"

2. It's a sci fi show....the fact that they have so many people thinking this entire thing "is believable" is what makes the show so great

3. There are still like 13 episodes left

4. It seems (to me at least) like this is one 6 season long fable, and there will be some moral at the end of it - and I'm fine with that.

For now, I'm still drinking the kool aid......the producers have delivered for 5 seasons, no reason to believe they aren't going to do it again.
This...plus, I love all of the people criticizing what is seen as pretty darn good writing as if they could do better. Somehow their theories and ideas are better than the creators.Hilarious.
According to who? Not the majority of people in this thread.
I'm not sure what people are expecting. These first six to seven episodes are all about setting up the eventual climax of the show. This is pretty much how most tv shows work. Last nights episode wasn't "epic" by any means, but it created the framework for JacobHurley's imagination/Unlocke showdown.
Jacob's dead Jim.
Fixed.
 
I'd still like to know how Ben was able to summon Norwood to not actually kill the marines.
IIRC, the mercenaries fatigues were made out of ash. They also were carrying baseballs.
Well, that explains why they're the only ones he attacked with the intention of killing them and conveniently failed. It still doesn't tell me how sticking his hand in a mud puddle inside his house made Norwood go all rogue wrestler from the dressing room with a folding chair.
A better explanation is Smokey was sandbagging it since he felt the marines might make good recruits to his side of things, imo. Also explains why he took out Eko, since he realized Eko would be more likely a Jacob recruit.Mud puddle is a little more hazy.
I agree on Eko. Actually, based on MIB's actions this season, I think his questioning of Eko and killing him makes a lot more sense. Now that I think about it, I think MIB always wanted Locke and killing Eko removed an impediment to Locke. We know early on, maybe even in Season 1 that MIB/smokey picked Locke by appearing as something beautiful when others saw the smoke cloud.
 
--Jin being held captive in the flash sideways..think he is in the same predicament now on the Island??

--Where is Richard?

--(This may be dumb) Who did Jacob mean is coming to the island? When he sent Hurley/Jack to the lighthouse or was that just to get them out of the temple?

--Kate is HOT.

 
I'd still like to know how Ben was able to summon Norwood to not actually kill the marines.
IIRC, the mercenaries fatigues were made out of ash. They also were carrying baseballs.
Well, that explains why they're the only ones he attacked with the intention of killing them and conveniently failed. It still doesn't tell me how sticking his hand in a mud puddle inside his house made Norwood go all rogue wrestler from the dressing room with a folding chair.
A better explanation is Smokey was sandbagging it since he felt the marines might make good recruits to his side of things, imo. Also explains why he took out Eko, since he realized Eko would be more likely a Jacob recruit.Mud puddle is a little more hazy.
I agree on Eko. Actually, based on MIB's actions this season, I think his questioning of Eko and killing him makes a lot more sense. Now that I think about it, I think MIB always wanted Locke and killing Eko removed an impediment to Locke. We know early on, maybe even in Season 1 that MIB/smokey picked Locke by appearing as something beautiful when others saw the smoke cloud.
or maybe he just killed Eko because the guy didn't want to be on the show anymore so they had to write him out of it.
 
--Jin being held captive in the flash sideways..think he is in the same predicament now on the Island??
Can't remember the exact Korea storyline but once back from the island didn't Sun have some interaction with Widmore? Business? Maybe he was working with her father when he was running the company?Maybe the reason Jin was being sent to LA with that cash was to make a payment to Widmore from his FIL (Sun's dad) who had some sort of business arrangement with Widmore. When the cash was confiscated at the airport and he didn't have it, Widmore's minons (including Kearny again) took him hostage?
 
I wonder how long Kate's going to pretend she's with the Evil Others? She looked downright scared while joining the group after the temple massacre. Also I don't think that the couple of bras Kate had with her on the Oceanic flight would last her 3+ years on a tropical island. I want a little more realism here. LOSE THE BRA, KATE!
She left the island and came back after three years.I can only hope she's wearing a different bra...and panties.I find myself wondering what color her underpants might be. Her panties. Uh. Odds are they were probably basic white cotton underpants, but I started thinking, maybe they're silk panties. Maybe it's a thong, maybe it's uh, maybe it's something cool I don't even know about ya know?
 
I wonder how long Kate's going to pretend she's with the Evil Others? She looked downright scared while joining the group after the temple massacre. Also I don't think that the couple of bras Kate had with her on the Oceanic flight would last her 3+ years on a tropical island. I want a little more realism here. LOSE THE BRA, KATE!
She left the island and came back after three years.I can only hope she's wearing a different bra...and panties.I find myself wondering what color her underpants might be. Her panties. Uh. Odds are they were probably basic white cotton underpants, but I started thinking, maybe they're silk panties. Maybe it's a thong, maybe it's uh, maybe it's something cool I don't even know about ya know?
Maybe she got sick and tired of washing them, so she decided to just not wear any.
 
I wonder how long Kate's going to pretend she's with the Evil Others? She looked downright scared while joining the group after the temple massacre. Also I don't think that the couple of bras Kate had with her on the Oceanic flight would last her 3+ years on a tropical island. I want a little more realism here. LOSE THE BRA, KATE!
She left the island and came back after three years.I can only hope she's wearing a different bra...and panties.I find myself wondering what color her underpants might be. Her panties. Uh. Odds are they were probably basic white cotton underpants, but I started thinking, maybe they're silk panties. Maybe it's a thong, maybe it's uh, maybe it's something cool I don't even know about ya know?
Leopard print g-string imo.
 
I find myself wondering what color her underpants might be. Her panties. Uh. Odds are they were probably basic white cotton underpants, but I started thinking, maybe they're silk panties. Maybe it's a thong, maybe it's uh, maybe it's something cool I don't even know about ya know?
Circle of Truth.
 
It's all over the place for me and I can't remember where half of the characters are and whether they are dead/alive etc.
This is a major issue for a lot of viewers. It's hard to jump back into the story and get satisfied with resolution if you can't even remember what you wanted to know.
Wah. :shrug: I had the same problem while reading the Dark Tower series as it was being written. Years went by in between books. When a new one came out, it was very difficult to remember what was going on in the last one. It didn't make me appreciate the series any less.

 
It's all over the place for me and I can't remember where half of the characters are and whether they are dead/alive etc.
This is a major issue for a lot of viewers. It's hard to jump back into the story and get satisfied with resolution if you can't even remember what you wanted to know.
Some people, let's call them "sharks", did not watch a single episode until the end of S5. Then they piled all the DVDs into Netflix and turbo-watched the show :shrug:
 
or maybe he just killed Eko because the guy didn't want to be on the show anymore so they had to write him out of it.
Or maybe they ended his story the same way they would have, but he just appeared in a few less episodes. Have you not noticed that the ancillary folks, i.e. the tailies, the temple folks, the freighter folks, the helicopter folks, etc. tend to not last very long?I think you are assuming way too much that Eko was supposed to be a key person throughout the entire series. He was a very popular character, but that doesn't mean he was upper tier. Locke saw smokey in a way no one else did before we even knew Eko existed. Eko was the most key of all of the tailies, but where are the rest of them? We see Cindy and Bernard for a second every 10 episodes or more. Miles is the only freighter person left (Lapidus came back a second time) and he is comic relief. I think Miles still has a role to play and maybe Cindy and Bernard do as well, but they aren't Jack, Locke, Sawyer, Kate, Sayid or Hurley. I think of Eko as a Charlie, Ben or Desmond, a guy who was crucial to the periods he was around, but a guy who could disappear for long stretches.Anyway, as you said, you are just here to complain, so you will see Eko getting killed as a story hole no matter how you look at it.
 
I still have no idea what's going on, but I like it so far.

The writers have never let me down, so I think it'll be OK. This flash sideways means something. I'm just going to enjoy the ride and not ##### about every thing that I think they should be telling me.

Still lots of episodes left to explain things.

 
--Jin being held captive in the flash sideways..think he is in the same predicament now on the Island??
Can't remember the exact Korea storyline but once back from the island didn't Sun have some interaction with Widmore? Business? Maybe he was working with her father when he was running the company?Maybe the reason Jin was being sent to LA with that cash was to make a payment to Widmore from his FIL (Sun's dad) who had some sort of business arrangement with Widmore. When the cash was confiscated at the airport and he didn't have it, Widmore's minons (including Kearny again) took him hostage?
:goodposting: I like the idea of the sideways stories kind of paralleling the on island ones. Kate just met up with Claire as she just did in sideways land, so their interaction on island should be interesting. I agree with both posts about Jin. Losing the cash is probably why he was locked up since he wasn't able to make the payment.If Jin hooks up with Sayid in the next episode, then I would say we need to watch for the parallels even more. Not sure what the Jack and Locke meeting and Locke not going for consult in sideways land means.
 
With each episodes end, it seems like there are going to be more questions than they are going to have time to answer in the final episodes of the series.

Enjoying the ride though.

 
It's all over the place for me and I can't remember where half of the characters are and whether they are dead/alive etc.
This is a major issue for a lot of viewers. It's hard to jump back into the story and get satisfied with resolution if you can't even remember what you wanted to know.
these same viewers would also be the ones #####ing and moaning if certain segments of the story weren't resolved. nobody is forcing anyone to watch the show, if it isn't doing it for you then move on to other shows that are.
 
This story line is conflicting with the dream kate had off island when claire said not to bring her son back to the island

 
Everyone who is complaining - I hear ya, but:

1. The producers have said multiple times "Enjoy the ride"

2. It's a sci fi show....the fact that they have so many people thinking this entire thing "is believable" is what makes the show so great

3. There are still like 13 episodes left

4. It seems (to me at least) like this is one 6 season long fable, and there will be some moral at the end of it - and I'm fine with that.

For now, I'm still drinking the kool aid......the producers have delivered for 5 seasons, no reason to believe they aren't going to do it again.
This...plus, I love all of the people criticizing what is seen as pretty darn good writing as if they could do better. Somehow their theories and ideas are better than the creators.Hilarious.
According to who? Not the majority of people in this thread.
Majority of people in this thread?Hmm...Id say the majority are fine with the writing and enjoying the ride.

Just the naysayers are generally louder.

But I was not judging just on "this" thread either.

I just laugh at a lot of the criticism of the writing. Its become kind of amusing (especially yours).
You are welcome to respond to my criticisms ay any time. Which you have never done. You only respond to the fact that I am criticizing.And based on recent responses in this thread, it's humorous that you take exception with mine.

 
So TMIB is going to try and recruit Kate next? What kind of apple can he offer her?
The impression I got at the end was he didn't expect Kate to be there but didn't have a problem with it. It's like he got a bonus gift with her coming along.Anybody else have the same feeling about his reaction to seeing Kate or am I off base there?
:confused: Dead on with his reaction. He was absolutely surprised that she came along, but since she came he didn't have an issue with it.
It appears that they are setting up Kate to save Claire.
 
I'm losing patience with this season very quickly. They hyped this week's episode to no end in commercials stating something like"we can't show you too much because it will give away all the answers that are revealed".

What answers were revealed exactly?

 
So TMIB is going to try and recruit Kate next? What kind of apple can he offer her?
The impression I got at the end was he didn't expect Kate to be there but didn't have a problem with it. It's like he got a bonus gift with her coming along.Anybody else have the same feeling about his reaction to seeing Kate or am I off base there?
:confused: Dead on with his reaction. He was absolutely surprised that she came along, but since she came he didn't have an issue with it.
It appears that they are setting up Kate to save Claire.
Absolutely. The one thing I don't get about Claire and her turn to evil is that she was nothing like Sayid and in no way before her "capture" by MIB as Christian Sheppard was she a bad person. I could see where a test would say that Sayid was out of balance on the evil side, but not Claire. MIB had to have done something to Claire. Even the parallels to Danielle don't seem to make sense as Danielle as whacked out as she was, was not a bad person at heart. She didn't kill Sayid like Claire has killed the temple folks.I am interested to see more of Claire and how she got turned because I remember a long time ago when Locke saw her with MIB/Christian in what he thought was Jacob's cabin. Pretty sure a bunch of us posted that she looked crazy. She was just giggling and acting like she didn't know Locke at all. Almost like MIB had told her how he was conning Locke to be able to come back as him after he died.
 
Everyone who is complaining - I hear ya, but:

1. The producers have said multiple times "Enjoy the ride"

2. It's a sci fi show....the fact that they have so many people thinking this entire thing "is believable" is what makes the show so great

3. There are still like 13 episodes left

4. It seems (to me at least) like this is one 6 season long fable, and there will be some moral at the end of it - and I'm fine with that.

For now, I'm still drinking the kool aid......the producers have delivered for 5 seasons, no reason to believe they aren't going to do it again.
This...plus, I love all of the people criticizing what is seen as pretty darn good writing as if they could do better. Somehow their theories and ideas are better than the creators.Hilarious.
According to who? Not the majority of people in this thread.
Majority of people in this thread?Hmm...Id say the majority are fine with the writing and enjoying the ride.

Just the naysayers are generally louder.

But I was not judging just on "this" thread either.

I just laugh at a lot of the criticism of the writing. Its become kind of amusing (especially yours).
You are welcome to respond to my criticisms ay any time. Which you have never done. You only respond to the fact that I am criticizing.And based on recent responses in this thread, it's humorous that you take exception with mine.
In this case...I did not just take exception with you. You responded to my post to another that did not mention you...yet you felt the need to jump in.
 
I'm losing patience with this season very quickly. They hyped this week's episode to no end in commercials stating something like"we can't show you too much because it will give away all the answers that are revealed".What answers were revealed exactly?
The significance of the baseball.Also, Sayid is tormented by his past and is a complicated character.
 
So TMIB is going to try and recruit Kate next? What kind of apple can he offer her?
The impression I got at the end was he didn't expect Kate to be there but didn't have a problem with it. It's like he got a bonus gift with her coming along.Anybody else have the same feeling about his reaction to seeing Kate or am I off base there?
;) Dead on with his reaction. He was absolutely surprised that she came along, but since she came he didn't have an issue with it.
It appears that they are setting up Kate to save Claire.
Absolutely. The one thing I don't get about Claire and her turn to evil is that she was nothing like Sayid and in no way before her "capture" by MIB as Christian Sheppard was she a bad person. I could see where a test would say that Sayid was out of balance on the evil side, but not Claire. MIB had to have done something to Claire. Even the parallels to Danielle don't seem to make sense as Danielle as whacked out as she was, was not a bad person at heart. She didn't kill Sayid like Claire has killed the temple folks.I am interested to see more of Claire and how she got turned because I remember a long time ago when Locke saw her with MIB/Christian in what he thought was Jacob's cabin. Pretty sure a bunch of us posted that she looked crazy. She was just giggling and acting like she didn't know Locke at all. Almost like MIB had told her how he was conning Locke to be able to come back as him after he died.
:shrug:
 
This story line is conflicting with the dream kate had off island when claire said not to bring her son back to the island
I'm guessing that fake Locke somehow sent that dream. If Kate had brought the baby back, Claire wouldn't have been willing to go into the temple for him, even though she didn't really do much yet except sit in a pit and then get rescued. I think his goal with Claire was to get her to kill Kate, because she took her baby off the island.
 
This story line is conflicting with the dream kate had off island when claire said not to bring her son back to the island
I'm guessing that fake Locke somehow sent that dream. If Kate had brought the baby back, Claire wouldn't have been willing to go into the temple for him, even though she didn't really do much yet except sit in a pit and then get rescued. I think his goal with Claire was to get her to kill Kate, because she took her baby off the island.
Claire delivered the message that got them to send Sayid out to receive a message to give them a message.
 
So TMIB is going to try and recruit Kate next? What kind of apple can he offer her?
The impression I got at the end was he didn't expect Kate to be there but didn't have a problem with it. It's like he got a bonus gift with her coming along.Anybody else have the same feeling about his reaction to seeing Kate or am I off base there?
:( Dead on with his reaction. He was absolutely surprised that she came along, but since she came he didn't have an issue with it.
It appears that they are setting up Kate to save Claire.
Absolutely. The one thing I don't get about Claire and her turn to evil is that she was nothing like Sayid and in no way before her "capture" by MIB as Christian Sheppard was she a bad person. I could see where a test would say that Sayid was out of balance on the evil side, but not Claire. MIB had to have done something to Claire. Even the parallels to Danielle don't seem to make sense as Danielle as whacked out as she was, was not a bad person at heart. She didn't kill Sayid like Claire has killed the temple folks.I am interested to see more of Claire and how she got turned because I remember a long time ago when Locke saw her with MIB/Christian in what he thought was Jacob's cabin. Pretty sure a bunch of us posted that she looked crazy. She was just giggling and acting like she didn't know Locke at all. Almost like MIB had told her how he was conning Locke to be able to come back as him after he died.
Claire's intrigue was the entire shtick about her getting all these weird messages from the palm reader that she MUST raise Aaron.Now they've pretty well eliminated that story line.. leaving us clueless.And we've gone multiple episodes without any mention of widmore, christian, pierre Chang, Desmond (barely mentioned), Penny, etc.great story telling here... just effing great.
 
So TMIB is going to try and recruit Kate next? What kind of apple can he offer her?
The impression I got at the end was he didn't expect Kate to be there but didn't have a problem with it. It's like he got a bonus gift with her coming along.Anybody else have the same feeling about his reaction to seeing Kate or am I off base there?
:( Dead on with his reaction. He was absolutely surprised that she came along, but since she came he didn't have an issue with it.
It appears that they are setting up Kate to save Claire.
Absolutely. The one thing I don't get about Claire and her turn to evil is that she was nothing like Sayid and in no way before her "capture" by MIB as Christian Sheppard was she a bad person. I could see where a test would say that Sayid was out of balance on the evil side, but not Claire. MIB had to have done something to Claire. Even the parallels to Danielle don't seem to make sense as Danielle as whacked out as she was, was not a bad person at heart. She didn't kill Sayid like Claire has killed the temple folks.I am interested to see more of Claire and how she got turned because I remember a long time ago when Locke saw her with MIB/Christian in what he thought was Jacob's cabin. Pretty sure a bunch of us posted that she looked crazy. She was just giggling and acting like she didn't know Locke at all. Almost like MIB had told her how he was conning Locke to be able to come back as him after he died.
I assume he lured her away via an image of her father, and while doing that separated her from Aaron, and then convinced her that the Others kidnapped Aaron, and that set her on revenge with further prodding.
 
NotLocke's look towards Kate was very interesting.
yeah, it was almost like a "should I kill her now, or see what she's up to?" look.and regardless how someone feels about the current events on the show, Terry O'Quinn has been bringing it every week. I don't know if I could watch the show if he wasn't on it any more. the look he gave Kate, and the evil grin he gave Sayid after offering him the deal, were absolute cash last night.
 
And while we're at it, if NotLocke/smokey is trying to conquer the entire island (join me or die), where will the resistance come from?

 
The impression I got at the end was he didn't expect Kate to be there but didn't have a problem with it. It's like he got a bonus gift with her coming along.Anybody else have the same feeling about his reaction to seeing Kate or am I off base there?
:kicksrock: Dead on with his reaction. He was absolutely surprised that she came along, but since she came he didn't have an issue with it.
It appears that they are setting up Kate to save Claire.
Absolutely. The one thing I don't get about Claire and her turn to evil is that she was nothing like Sayid and in no way before her "capture" by MIB as Christian Sheppard was she a bad person. I could see where a test would say that Sayid was out of balance on the evil side, but not Claire. MIB had to have done something to Claire. Even the parallels to Danielle don't seem to make sense as Danielle as whacked out as she was, was not a bad person at heart. She didn't kill Sayid like Claire has killed the temple folks.I am interested to see more of Claire and how she got turned because I remember a long time ago when Locke saw her with MIB/Christian in what he thought was Jacob's cabin. Pretty sure a bunch of us posted that she looked crazy. She was just giggling and acting like she didn't know Locke at all. Almost like MIB had told her how he was conning Locke to be able to come back as him after he died.
Claire's intrigue was the entire shtick about her getting all these weird messages from the palm reader that she MUST raise Aaron.Now they've pretty well eliminated that story line.. leaving us clueless.
What eliminated? She didn't raise Aaron, and now she's helping Smokey break free of the island. If she had held on to Aaron and didn't follow Christian in the woods, Smokey's goal would that much harder to accomplish.
 
And while we're at it, if NotLocke/smokey is trying to conquer the entire island (join me or die), where will the resistance come from?
I think in the end he may need to kill everybody who is a "candidate"
Kill or 'recruit' maybe... he has two candidates on his team so far with Sawyer and Sayid.
Well, Sayid is already dead perhaps. He may try to kill Sawyer (and Claire, and everybody else) later, but needs people on his side for the time being.Didnt Samurai say something about "Locke" having to kill every living person (or thing?) on the island to escape?
 
NotLocke's look towards Kate was very interesting.
yeah, it was almost like a "should I kill her now, or see what she's up to?" look.and regardless how someone feels about the current events on the show, Terry O'Quinn has been bringing it every week. I don't know if I could watch the show if he wasn't on it any more. the look he gave Kate, and the evil grin he gave Sayid after offering him the deal, were absolute cash last night.
I think his eyes gave away his true feeling when he saw Kate ..."Dammit, this friggin love triangle storyline still is not dead, is it...#######it writers."
 
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And while we're at it, if NotLocke/smokey is trying to conquer the entire island (join me or die), where will the resistance come from?
I think in the end he may need to kill everybody who is a "candidate"
Kill or 'recruit' maybe... he has two candidates on his team so far with Sawyer and Sayid.
Well, Sayid is already dead perhaps. He may try to kill Sawyer (and Claire, and everybody else) later, but needs people on his side for the time being.Didnt Samurai say something about "Locke" having to kill every living person (or thing?) on the island to escape?
Yup. Looks like divide and conquer to me.
 
What if the Flash Sideways are the "new" lives/wishes granted by the MIB (or Jacob?) Samurai could have his son live but could never see him again. Sayid could have Nadia alive again, but would not be with her. There's always a catch, but as the season plays out we get to see what each 815'er sacrificed for their "wish."
:kicksrock: thiis is exactly what I was saying...and I think that somehow, some way, they're going to remember what happened and "fix" things (again) in the "flash-sideways" universe...as I said, i don't think it was the bomb that sunk the island and changed the future, I think it is smokey that changes the future and sinks the island in the past...
 
The deal with Sayid is that no matter what the natural order of things are, he is never able to retain the girl. That scenario can play out in many different ways but the end result is the same, he and this girl aren't together.

If he gets the girl, then the world has turned on orbit, which can't happen.

 
I'm losing patience with this season very quickly. They hyped this week's episode to no end in commercials stating something like"we can't show you too much because it will give away all the answers that are revealed".What answers were revealed exactly?
When has the hype built up in the commercials ever lived up to it? Aside from maybe season finales?What answers do you want revealed exactly? Keep in mind that there's still 12 hours worth of episodes coming and they can't answer everything now because they still have those 12 hours of show to fill. If you get answers now why would you keep watching? We're not even half-way through the season yet and people are already pissing and moaning that they're not getting answers quick enough. This is unbelievable to me. This show's always been about a slow burn that weaves many intricate and interlacing stories together that then give answers. I get the feeling that many of the people who are becoming frustrated want a big TA-DA! moment every episode so they can check a question off the list. This show's never done anything like that, so why would they start now in the first third of the final season? There's still plenty of time for the reveals to come since you can tell they're building towards the climax.
 

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