*** Official Lost Season 6 *** (1 Viewer)

[bryhamm]

I think the ending was fitting for a show that really made you enjoy thinking about it. We've been discussing and interpreting LOST for 6 years and obviously we enjoy it to some degree or we would have given up on the show. Putting on an ending that clearly tied up all of the questions and showed exactly how things ended would be out of line with the show that we've all watched and enjoyed for all these years. People get to do what we're doing and discuss, interpret, argue their theories just like we've done through the entire show.For what I think about the finale I think we need to break it up into a few parts:Island Ending - I liked the build up and anticipation when Jack agreed to go to the light with Locke and told him in advance that he'd kill him "That's a surprise". Turning off the island's source of "magic" long enough to kill one of its creations "smoke monster" seems like a great way to resolve the how do you kill the smoke monster problem. Have a bit of an issue with them repelling down the well with no ill effects that turned MIB into Smokey but guess they made up the source so they can also make up its properties. Maybe the thought was no effect on Jack as protector or Desmond as "special?". I think Jack giving his life to save / fix the island / world / his friends was a fitting end especially with him returning to the original bamboo field and the last shot being his eye closing.But, it didn't really end did it? The island and the mythology live on with Hurley and Ben running the show. What happens on the island? What forces come in the future? (I like the suggestions of Walt and Aaron above) Desmond didn't catch the plane, how does he get home to Penny and little Charlie? What happens to the survivors when they get "home"? Do Kate and Sawyer finally get together? Claire's reunion with Aaron, etc. Leaves alot to the imagination and each viewer can make their own ending. (And I'm sure there will be some that try to tell these stories in the future even if its just fan fiction. Sideways / Alt Timeline - Right or wrong I think this was their way to give people the happy endings and character resoultions they wanted. Would it have been better to use this time in the final season to answer all of the possible questions instead of focusing on the characters and their relationships and emotions? Maybe, but all along (maybe it has faded in the last couple seasons) this has been a show about the characters with the mysteries as the background, not the other way around. If you have to choose one or the other, I think I'd go with the way they ended it as the character resolutions were really worth it in some cases. (My living room got pretty dusty when Charlie, Claire, and Aaron were all reunited)Answers - Now you could say, well then why not extend the show for another season to answer all of the questions and plotlines that they've brought up in the show? Well, how much do you need to know? There are some major questions I keep hearing but then also some minor squabbles that I wonder why people even care. I guess it comes down to the fact that once the magician reveals the trick, the magic loses its effect. Maybe the producers decided to err on the side of not answering enough over answering too much. Hell, maybe they just threw their hands up at one point and said "I have no idea how to resolve all this, screw it", but I'm ok with it as I've loved the show and think the way it was left struck the right balance of staying true to their story, giving people emotional closure, leaving some mystery, and letting your draw your own conclusions on the true nature of the island.

I guess it depends on which group you tend to fall into.Group #1 -- people that liked Lost for the characters the mostGroup #2 -- people that liked Lost for the island the mostIf you are more in Group 1, you probably really liked the ending. If you are more in Group 2 (as I am), you probably were not thrilled with the ending. The "level" you were into each group will probably define the "level" of whether you enjoyed the ending. I am mainly in Group 2, but still consider part of me in Group 1. I was not upset by the ending, but disappointed.

 

[LokiKx]

I also liked the scene with Locke and Ben outside the church. Ben didn't feel he was ready to go inside with the others. He still had things to work out. Seems he got a head start on that during his time on the island as protector with Hurley... since Hurley gave him props for being a good #2. I kept waiting for Ben to push Hurley down the tunnel, or something.

Could Ben be waiting for his daughter?

 

[Porkchop Express]

Yeah Boone and Bernard were really vital to the primary relationships on the show. Right....

Boone was a lead character in Season 1. Yeah, he was kind of important.As far as Rose and Bernard being there, I think that was simply the writers including them for the fans. It's not like they were prominently featured in the reunion scene.I'm sorry if the fact Charles Widmore wasn't in the church at the end didn't bother me liked it appeared to be bothering you. If you want to believe that means I'm making excuses for the episode, so be it.

Oh so now its about lead characters, before it was about how vital they were to the primary relationships. Which one is it? Id say Miles and Lapidus were more important than Boone and they were lead characters.Although there were plenty of larger issues with this last episode (and season) that I have bigger problems with.

 

[raisydaisy]

I also liked the scene with Locke and Ben outside the church. Ben didn't feel he was ready to go inside with the others. He still had things to work out. Seems he got a head start on that during his time on the island as protector with Hurley... since Hurley gave him props for being a good #2. I kept waiting for Ben to push Hurley down the tunnel, or something.

Could Ben be waiting for his daughter?

I could buy this but she is already dead.

 

[Buckna]

I also liked the scene with Locke and Ben outside the church. Ben didn't feel he was ready to go inside with the others. He still had things to work out. Seems he got a head start on that during his time on the island as protector with Hurley... since Hurley gave him props for being a good #2. I kept waiting for Ben to push Hurley down the tunnel, or something.

Could Ben be waiting for his daughter?

I think that's part of it. He of all the characters probably has the most to sort out. He stole Alex from Rousseau, caused Alex to die, ordered the torture and murders of other people, killed Widmore, killed his father, killed Locke, helped kill lots of Dharma folks... and this is just the stuff we've seen on camera. Probably did lots of other bad things as well.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

I also liked the scene with Locke and Ben outside the church. Ben didn't feel he was ready to go inside with the others. He still had things to work out. Seems he got a head start on that during his time on the island as protector with Hurley... since Hurley gave him props for being a good #2. I kept waiting for Ben to push Hurley down the tunnel, or something.

Could Ben be waiting for his daughter?

Yes. Or he just wants to hang around that alt world longer to spend more time with her. He did basically have her killed IRL.

 

[cstu]

If anything this gives hopes to writers that you can take whatever artistic liberties you want, go in any unexplainable direction uresolved and get away with it, because at the end of the day people will still be satisfied with this journey to nowhere.The viewers give the writers too much credit when they debate and theorize because the writers left the whole damn thing unresolved. It's nothing but an elaborate trick and appeared to work on most of the fanbase.

They pulled the ultimate long con and I do have to give them credit for that.

 

[packersfan]

Yeah Boone and Bernard were really vital to the primary relationships on the show. Right....

Boone was a lead character in Season 1. Yeah, he was kind of important.As far as Rose and Bernard being there, I think that was simply the writers including them for the fans. It's not like they were prominently featured in the reunion scene.I'm sorry if the fact Charles Widmore wasn't in the church at the end didn't bother me liked it appeared to be bothering you. If you want to believe that means I'm making excuses for the episode, so be it.

Oh so now its about lead characters, before it was about how vital they were to the primary relationships.

I've explained it. I believe the show was about the survivors and their relationships with one another. Ultimately, they needed to one another again to help them connect to the reality of the island and what they experienced. That worked for me. If it didn't for you, that's fine. I didn't need to see peripheral characters at the church in order to consider the story to have been resolved. For me, it was about seeing the primary survivors again and understanding how important their relationships with one another were.

 

[cstu]

It was just like Ralphie in A Christmas Story getting his decoder ring, except instead of "Drink your Ovaltine", the message was "And they died happily ever after".

No. It showed that all these characters that began the show lost and alone were no longer so.

It's tough to admit you were , I understand.

 

[Jayrok]

I also liked the scene with Locke and Ben outside the church. Ben didn't feel he was ready to go inside with the others. He still had things to work out. Seems he got a head start on that during his time on the island as protector with Hurley... since Hurley gave him props for being a good #2. I kept waiting for Ben to push Hurley down the tunnel, or something.

Could Ben be waiting for his daughter?

Could be. In the side-world he gave the french woman an intense look as if maybe he has a shot at happiness with her and their daughter. Maybe he needs to spend time with them there and figure out a way the 3 of them can move on to the light together. That would complete his happiness... ? He wasn't in tune much with the others in the church. He has to wait on his family. But first needs to figure out how.

 

[HellToupee]

was Jack's injury in the pilot in the same spot as his stab wound in the finale???

co-worker claims its the same

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Charles Widmore - (Don't know the actors name) but when Kimmel asked him a question he responded (I don't know if Widmore was a good or bad guy.) Yeah, they had it all planned out..........

This just inirectors give actors general directions for them to take their characters. They don't always spell everything out for them. Especially on a show built around mystery, where actors don't know how everything will play out. That way, they can't spoil anything when interviewed in real life. If that's concrete proof for you that the "writers had no clue where they were going", then that's up to you.

Okay was Widmore good or bad.........you don't know, which is the answer to about a million other questions. I am not fine with this. I enjoyed the finale, but I am not thrilled with it. I think this show had so much more potential and the writers are what gave it that potential. I just feel unsatisfied, I think I just went on a six year journey and a long the trip I encounter just great things that made me think, wonder and jones for answers. When the time for answers came I got a nice warm message and a kick in the balls. Oh well. C'est La Vie.

If you're asking me my opinion, then I say yes, Widmore was bad. He was attempting to harness the power of the island for his own benefit, and people like him are who the Protector has to protect the island from.

 

[packersfan]

was Jack's injury in the pilot in the same spot as his stab wound in the finale???co-worker claims its the same

I don't believe so. In the pilot, the injury was to his back. He couldn't reach it. That's why he asked Kate to stitch him up.In the finale, he was stabbed in the stomach.

 

[huskers15]

was Jack's injury in the pilot in the same spot as his stab wound in the finale???co-worker claims its the same

No, the original injury was more on his back as he had Kate stitch it up because he couldn't reach it. Beat me too it but someone did mention the stab wound and his scar (appndix) he asked his mom about in the flash sideways are probably the same.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

was Jack's injury in the pilot in the same spot as his stab wound in the finale???co-worker claims its the same

I don't believe so. In the pilot, the injury was to his back. He couldn't reach it. That's why he asked Kate to stitch him up.In the finale, he was stabbed in the stomach.

Also on different sides, if I remember correctly.

 

[The Duff Man]

Cuse - How about we show that when they die they all ended up happily ever after in heaven.Lindelof - That's stupid, any show could do that. Imagine if 24 couldn't come up with an ending and just show that no matter whether terrorist attacks were stopped or not, everybody ends up happy is heaven? That's the biggest cop out I've ever heard of and renders what happens in the show meaningless.

LOL. So you are one of those guys. If someone gets a million dollar idea, you laugh it off because "anyone could have thought of that". Except one guy did...and executed it first. Someone drafts the #1 fantasy RB in Rd 4, and you laugh at him because he could have waited until Rd 6. Meanwhile he is winning the championship in your league.Hindsight is great isn't it? The fact is, any show COULD have come up with an ending like this....no other shows did. The show is about the characters, and the island, and their journey through the events that brought them there. At the end...they showed the end. So where is the cop out?

 

[packersfan]

was Jack's injury in the pilot in the same spot as his stab wound in the finale???co-worker claims its the same

I don't believe so. In the pilot, the injury was to his back. He couldn't reach it. That's why he asked Kate to stitch him up.In the finale, he was stabbed in the stomach.

Also on different sides, if I remember correctly.

Correct. Left side in the pilot. Right side in the finale. He was able to reach the stab wound. He was putting pressure on it even as he died.

 

[raisydaisy]

Charles Widmore - (Don't know the actors name) but when Kimmel asked him a question he responded (I don't know if Widmore was a good or bad guy.) Yeah, they had it all planned out..........

This just inirectors give actors general directions for them to take their characters. They don't always spell everything out for them. Especially on a show built around mystery, where actors don't know how everything will play out. That way, they can't spoil anything when interviewed in real life. If that's concrete proof for you that the "writers had no clue where they were going", then that's up to you.

Okay was Widmore good or bad.........you don't know, which is the answer to about a million other questions. I am not fine with this. I enjoyed the finale, but I am not thrilled with it. I think this show had so much more potential and the writers are what gave it that potential. I just feel unsatisfied, I think I just went on a six year journey and a long the trip I encounter just great things that made me think, wonder and jones for answers. When the time for answers came I got a nice warm message and a kick in the balls. Oh well. C'est La Vie.

If you're asking me my opinion, then I say yes, Widmore was bad. He was attempting to harness the power of the island for his own benefit, and people like him are who the Protector has to protect the island from.

What power did the island have? The power to blow itself up?

 

[Angry Cheesehead]

Charles Widmore - (Don't know the actors name) but when Kimmel asked him a question he responded (I don't know if Widmore was a good or bad guy.) Yeah, they had it all planned out..........

Dale came across as a bit of a d**k in my opinion. Not sure how that reflects poorly on the writers.

And we all know that characters can NEVER be written to be open to interpretation....

 

[packersfan]

Charles Widmore - (Don't know the actors name) but when Kimmel asked him a question he responded (I don't know if Widmore was a good or bad guy.) Yeah, they had it all planned out..........

Dale came across as a bit of a d**k in my opinion. Not sure how that reflects poorly on the writers.

And we all know that characters can NEVER be written to be open to interpretation....

True. Widmore dying without any of us knowing if he was good or evil didn't bother me in the least.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Charles Widmore - (Don't know the actors name) but when Kimmel asked him a question he responded (I don't know if Widmore was a good or bad guy.) Yeah, they had it all planned out..........

This just inirectors give actors general directions for them to take their characters. They don't always spell everything out for them. Especially on a show built around mystery, where actors don't know how everything will play out. That way, they can't spoil anything when interviewed in real life. If that's concrete proof for you that the "writers had no clue where they were going", then that's up to you.

Okay was Widmore good or bad.........you don't know, which is the answer to about a million other questions. I am not fine with this. I enjoyed the finale, but I am not thrilled with it. I think this show had so much more potential and the writers are what gave it that potential. I just feel unsatisfied, I think I just went on a six year journey and a long the trip I encounter just great things that made me think, wonder and jones for answers. When the time for answers came I got a nice warm message and a kick in the balls. Oh well. C'est La Vie.

If you're asking me my opinion, then I say yes, Widmore was bad. He was attempting to harness the power of the island for his own benefit, and people like him are who the Protector has to protect the island from.

What power did the island have? The power to blow itself up?

The power to grant immortality, or at least slowing down the aging process for hundreds of years, for one thing.

 

[raisydaisy]

Charles Widmore - (Don't know the actors name) but when Kimmel asked him a question he responded (I don't know if Widmore was a good or bad guy.) Yeah, they had it all planned out..........

Dale came across as a bit of a d**k in my opinion. Not sure how that reflects poorly on the writers.

And we all know that characters can NEVER be written to be open to interpretation....

True. Widmore dying without any of us knowing if he was good or evil didn't bother me in the least.

They could have shown two goats humping for two and half hours and it wouldn't have bother you in the least.

 

[El Floppo]

I'm sure it's already been discussed since last night, but...

Didn't the producers flat out say in the first year or two that the show wasn't about Purgatory? And I am wrong for seeing last night's show as saying that's exactly what the whole series was about?

 

[AcerFC]

I'm sure it's already been discussed since last night, but...Didn't the producers flat out say in the first year or two that the show wasn't about Purgatory? And I am wrong for seeing last night's show as saying that's exactly what the whole series was about?

sideways world=purgatory or some sort of waiting area

 

[El Floppo]

I'm sure it's already been discussed since last night, but...

Didn't the producers flat out say in the first year or two that the show wasn't about Purgatory? And I am wrong for seeing last night's show as saying that's exactly what the whole series was about?

sideways world=purgatory or some sort of waiting area

just sideways world?I took it that they died from the plane-crash and the whole show was purgatory.

 

[packersfan]

Charles Widmore - (Don't know the actors name) but when Kimmel asked him a question he responded (I don't know if Widmore was a good or bad guy.) Yeah, they had it all planned out..........

Dale came across as a bit of a d**k in my opinion. Not sure how that reflects poorly on the writers.

And we all know that characters can NEVER be written to be open to interpretation....

True. Widmore dying without any of us knowing if he was good or evil didn't bother me in the least.

They could have shown two goats humping for two and half hours and it wouldn't have bother you in the least.

Clever. Not sure why the fact I enjoyed the finale bothers you so much. I don't care that you disliked it. I've simply stated the reasons why it worked for me. You disagree. That's fine. It doesn't make my enjoyment any less relevant or your disappointment any less relevant. I know plenty of people who really liked "The Sopranos" finale. I didn't. I don't mock them for liking it. I understand that we can both watch the same show and come away with different reactions to what we've seen.

 

[AcerFC]

I'm sure it's already been discussed since last night, but...

Didn't the producers flat out say in the first year or two that the show wasn't about Purgatory? And I am wrong for seeing last night's show as saying that's exactly what the whole series was about?

sideways world=purgatory or some sort of waiting area

just sideways world?I took it that they died from the plane-crash and the whole show was purgatory.

There are a lot of people that think different thingsMost here believe that the island stuff was real and ONLY the sideways world was purgatory. I am mixed myself but I am leaning towards this version

Dodds posted a good synopsis from another board

 

[raisydaisy]

Clever. Not sure why the fact I enjoyed the finale bothers you so much. I don't care that you disliked it. I've simply stated the reasons why it worked for me. You disagree. That's fine. It doesn't make my enjoyment any less relevant or your disappointment any less relevant. I know plenty of people who really liked "The Sopranos" finale. I didn't. I don't mock them for liking it. I understand that we can both watch the same show and come away with different reactions to what we've seen.

Sorry, pack, it was the first thing that pop in my mind and I couldn't help writing it, glad you enjoyed, I enjoyed it too. Just would have liked some questions answer to my satsification.

 

[packersfan]

Clever. Not sure why the fact I enjoyed the finale bothers you so much. I don't care that you disliked it. I've simply stated the reasons why it worked for me. You disagree. That's fine. It doesn't make my enjoyment any less relevant or your disappointment any less relevant. I know plenty of people who really liked "The Sopranos" finale. I didn't. I don't mock them for liking it. I understand that we can both watch the same show and come away with different reactions to what we've seen.

Sorry, pack, it was the first thing that pop in my mind and I couldn't help writing it, glad you enjoyed, I enjoyed it too. Just would have liked some questions answer to my satsification.

Well just to be clear, watching goats humping for 21/2 hours would not have been my idea of a quality finale.Though I would rank that above the "St. Elsewhere" finale.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Clever. Not sure why the fact I enjoyed the finale bothers you so much. I don't care that you disliked it. I've simply stated the reasons why it worked for me. You disagree. That's fine. It doesn't make my enjoyment any less relevant or your disappointment any less relevant. I know plenty of people who really liked "The Sopranos" finale. I didn't. I don't mock them for liking it. I understand that we can both watch the same show and come away with different reactions to what we've seen.

Sorry, pack, it was the first thing that pop in my mind and I couldn't help writing it, glad you enjoyed, I enjoyed it too. Just would have liked some questions answer to my satsification.

Well just to be clear, watching goats humping for 21/2 hours would not have been my idea of a quality finale.Though I would rank that above the "St. Elsewhere" finale.

How hot are these goats?

 

[Lehigh98]

And the idea that it only ends once, everything until then is just progress, was talking more about life and death than about the candidates.

Not my take, more about man's nature...

Black shirt: How did they find the Island?White shirt: You have to ask them when they get here.Black shirt: I don’t have to ask. You brought them here. Still trying to prove me wrong, aren’t you?White shirt: You are wrong.Black shirt: Am I? They come. Fight. They destroy. They corrupt. It always ends the same.White shirt: It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.

 

[cstu]

Cuse - How about we show that when they die they all ended up happily ever after in heaven.Lindelof - That's stupid, any show could do that. Imagine if 24 couldn't come up with an ending and just show that no matter whether terrorist attacks were stopped or not, everybody ends up happy is heaven? That's the biggest cop out I've ever heard of and renders what happens in the show meaningless.

LOL. So you are one of those guys. If someone gets a million dollar idea, you laugh it off because "anyone could have thought of that". Except one guy did...and executed it first. Someone drafts the #1 fantasy RB in Rd 4, and you laugh at him because he could have waited until Rd 6. Meanwhile he is winning the championship in your league.Hindsight is great isn't it? The fact is, any show COULD have come up with an ending like this....no other shows did. The show is about the characters, and the island, and their journey through the events that brought them there. At the end...they showed the end. So where is the cop out?

I would have been happy without the ALT Purgatory, regardless of what they came up with. I was fine going into the finale with them tying the island world with the ALT somehow and didn't even expect any answers to the mythology questions. However, this ending was a joke and I'm amazed at how many of you fell for it.

 

[tdoss]

I find it incredibly telling when the actors themselves have no idea what they just did.

JKimmel infers that the entire show was Jack's test.

Jack smiles and nods...much like someone would do when they're talking to someone in another language.

JKimmel continues to throw things against the wall...shows a clip and thinks that's when Jack really died and let go.

Jack smiles and nods...again...the look on his face was one of "sure...yea...sounds good."

But if you still don't believe the actors had no idea what they did...look at Widmore's response to JKimmel...

"I really wished you hadn't asked me that...I honestly don't know if Widmore is good or bad."

They sold us magic beans, my friends. All of the "mysteries" were exactly that...mysteries to even the writers themselves. They used a convenient tool at the end to wrap it up with death, afterlife and redemption...which is what most were anticipating from the initial season...and then just closed scene. Leaving this putrid mess for us to work out in the end. It was a cop out...they really had no plan other than what we all thought in the beginning. They all died...at some point or another...they died. All the rest of the crap was red herrings and mcguffins in order to sucker us into continuing to pay attention. It's like when a magician comes out and does a trick and we all figured out how he did it...so he decides to do a tap dance coupled with a lot of hand gestures in order to try to keep us entertained before the hook comes out.

I thank God that I didn't get so sucked in that I spent countless hours upon hours of reviewing and rewinding and deciphering and reading and surfing in order to try to figure out this mess while it was going on because I might actually hunt those writers down and throw their punk @zzes down a well.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I'm sure it's already been discussed since last night, but...

Didn't the producers flat out say in the first year or two that the show wasn't about Purgatory? And I am wrong for seeing last night's show as saying that's exactly what the whole series was about?

sideways world=purgatory or some sort of waiting area

just sideways world?I took it that they died from the plane-crash and the whole show was purgatory.

Here's two things that might change your mind:

1. When Jack walked past has father's white tennis shoe hanging from the bamboo in his death scene last night it was weathered, a clear attempt to show that real time had passed since the initial Oceanic 815 crash that flung him into the bamboo. The shoe was clean and white in the opening scene.

2. Apparently the shots of the wreckage that aired with the closing credits- after the LOST logo- weren't part of the script, and that footage didn't air in other countries.

 

[tdoss]

And those who think or say the island stuff was real...COME ON.

Magical disappearing islands with polar bears and people from who knows where living there. Giant statued foot from some civilization that disappeared and a temple that means nothing. A smoke monster that just kills willy nilly but then also stops on some people and decides not to kill them. A stupid @zzed button that needs to be pushed continually for no apparent reason. You mean to tell me with all that technology they couldn't just have the button's signal looped and sent every 108 minutes/seconds or whatever it was? And for what purpose? The button doesn't get pushed and what happens? Apparently the world implodes or something. But wait...forget all about that button...we've also got this light over here that pretty much does the same thing...extinguish the light and it's lights out for all of us. Kids can't be born on the island...yet baby Aaron is...wonderful. What about Jacob and his brother? Where in the hell did their adoptive mom come from? Blah, blah, blah...I'm not even going to waste anymore of my time on this.

We were all duped...nuff said.

 

[raisydaisy]

Was there even a moment in the finale that comes close to the "We have to go back Kate" moment?

I would have to say that was the pinnacle of the show.

 

[Iraqi Information Minister]

It was just like Ralphie in A Christmas Story getting his decoder ring, except instead of "Drink your Ovaltine", the message was "And they died happily ever after".

No. It showed that all these characters that began the show lost and alone were no longer so.

It's tough to admit you were , I understand.

I'm owned because I enjoyed it? Uhh, okay.

 

[Iraqi Information Minister]

And those who think or say the island stuff was real...COME ON.

Magical disappearing islands with polar bears and people from who knows where living there. Giant statued foot from some civilization that disappeared and a temple that means nothing. A smoke monster that just kills willy nilly but then also stops on some people and decides not to kill them. A stupid @zzed button that needs to be pushed continually for no apparent reason. You mean to tell me with all that technology they couldn't just have the button's signal looped and sent every 108 minutes/seconds or whatever it was? And for what purpose? The button doesn't get pushed and what happens? Apparently the world implodes or something. But wait...forget all about that button...we've also got this light over here that pretty much does the same thing...extinguish the light and it's lights out for all of us. Kids can't be born on the island...yet baby Aaron is...wonderful. What about Jacob and his brother? Where in the hell did their adoptive mom come from? Blah, blah, blah...I'm not even going to waste anymore of my time on this.

We were all duped...nuff said.

Oh no! Science Fiction! RUN!!!!Quick, what channel is that hospital drama on?...No, not that one, the other one...no the OTHER, other one...

And it also sounds like you skipped an episode or twelve.

 

[cstu]

It was just like Ralphie in A Christmas Story getting his decoder ring, except instead of "Drink your Ovaltine", the message was "And they died happily ever after".

No. It showed that all these characters that began the show lost and alone were no longer so.

It's tough to admit you were , I understand.

I'm owned because I enjoyed it? Uhh, okay.

I'm sure the kid who got stuff tattooed on his back was happy at the time.

 

[Iraqi Information Minister]

I'm sure the kid who got stuff tattooed on his back was happy at the time.

Do what when now?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Yeah Boone and Bernard were really vital to the primary relationships on the show. Right....

Boone was a lead character in Season 1. Yeah, he was kind of important.As far as Rose and Bernard being there, I think that was simply the writers including them for the fans. It's not like they were prominently featured in the reunion scene.I'm sorry if the fact Charles Widmore wasn't in the church at the end didn't bother me liked it appeared to be bothering you. If you want to believe that means I'm making excuses for the episode, so be it.

Oh so now its about lead characters, before it was about how vital they were to the primary relationships. Which one is it? Id say Miles and Lapidus were more important than Boone and they were lead characters.Although there were plenty of larger issues with this last episode (and season) that I have bigger problems with.

maybe those characters went on in their lives and had more life altering experiences. Maybe they/their soles just weren't ready yet like Ben, faraday, charlotte, Ana Lucia, etc. Rose and Bernard lived their lives together on the island. Of course their experience there and with the people defined them.

 

[El Floppo]

I'm sure it's already been discussed since last night, but...

Didn't the producers flat out say in the first year or two that the show wasn't about Purgatory? And I am wrong for seeing last night's show as saying that's exactly what the whole series was about?

sideways world=purgatory or some sort of waiting area

just sideways world?I took it that they died from the plane-crash and the whole show was purgatory.

Here's two things that might change your mind:

1. When Jack walked past has father's white tennis shoe hanging from the bamboo in his death scene last night it was weathered, a clear attempt to show that real time had passed since the initial Oceanic 815 crash that flung him into the bamboo. The shoe was clean and white in the opening scene.

2. Apparently the shots of the wreckage that aired with the closing credits- after the LOST logo- weren't part of the script, and that footage didn't air in other countries.

...... If they're spending "time" in purgatory after the plane crash- wouldn't the shoes age along with all of them?

I could see that they survived the plane crash and then all died before or in the Nuke, going through purgatory side-ways world afterwards. If that, I don't see what the escaping plane means (although I did take it as Jack's way of letting go of his responisibiites to his friends, but then that means the show is about him and not all his friends). As I'm typing, I think the plane is the producers' way of keeping some mystery in the show and not wrapping everything up with a nice little bow exactly how we all guessed it would after the first few shows.

Seems to me, they planned it but then denied the whole purgatory thing thinking they'd come up with something better as they kept writing. They didn't. And I don't mind.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

And those who think or say the island stuff was real...COME ON.Magical disappearing islands with polar bears and people from who knows where living there. Giant statued foot from some civilization that disappeared and a temple that means nothing. A smoke monster that just kills willy nilly but then also stops on some people and decides not to kill them. A stupid @zzed button that needs to be pushed continually for no apparent reason. You mean to tell me with all that technology they couldn't just have the button's signal looped and sent every 108 minutes/seconds or whatever it was? And for what purpose? The button doesn't get pushed and what happens? Apparently the world implodes or something. But wait...forget all about that button...we've also got this light over here that pretty much does the same thing...extinguish the light and it's lights out for all of us. Kids can't be born on the island...yet baby Aaron is...wonderful. What about Jacob and his brother? Where in the hell did their adoptive mom come from? Blah, blah, blah...I'm not even going to waste anymore of my time on this.We were all duped...nuff said.

[:gladiator voice:] Are you not entertained?! [:/gladiator voice:]

 

[packersfan]

Was there even a moment in the finale that comes close to the "We have to go back Kate" moment?I would have to say that was the pinnacle of the show.

I agree that season finale was one of the finest episodes I've ever seen on television. The reveal at the end was amazing.

 

[The Dude]

I think my biggest problem was it was anti-climactic - or at least not climactic. The confrontation between Widmore and unLocke & unLocke and Jack - just not enough build up during the show. I know Jack v Locke has been built up for a while but the confrontation last night felt like more of a formality.

And even upon beating unLocke, he has to fix the island. I think a great confrontation would have made it more enjoyable - something to do with choice, or sacrifice, or good v evil

 

[Premier]

Getting mad about somebody enjoying a tv show (how DARE you like it!) is good shtick.

Cstu - I liked it as well. Sorry.

 

[Flash]

So last night was the only episode I watched.

What I could gather was that basically they all died in the plane crash, and their souls were trapped on the island, fighting to get off and find peace?

 

[Iraqi Information Minister]

So last night was the only episode I watched.What I could gather was that basically they all died in the plane crash, and their souls were trapped on the island, fighting to get off and find peace?

That's the minority opinion.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I'm sure it's already been discussed since last night, but...

Didn't the producers flat out say in the first year or two that the show wasn't about Purgatory? And I am wrong for seeing last night's show as saying that's exactly what the whole series was about?

sideways world=purgatory or some sort of waiting area

just sideways world?I took it that they died from the plane-crash and the whole show was purgatory.

Here's two things that might change your mind:

1. When Jack walked past has father's white tennis shoe hanging from the bamboo in his death scene last night it was weathered, a clear attempt to show that real time had passed since the initial Oceanic 815 crash that flung him into the bamboo. The shoe was clean and white in the opening scene.

2. Apparently the shots of the wreckage that aired with the closing credits- after the LOST logo- weren't part of the script, and that footage didn't air in other countries.

...... If they're spending "time" in purgatory after the plane crash- wouldn't the shoes age along with all of them?

I could see that they survived the plane crash and then all died before or in the Nuke, going through purgatory side-ways world afterwards. If that, I don't see what the escaping plane means (although I did take it as Jack's way of letting go of his responisibiites to his friends, but then that means the show is about him and not all his friends). As I'm typing, I think the plane is the producers' way of keeping some mystery in the show and not wrapping everything up with a nice little bow exactly how we all guessed it would after the first few shows.

Seems to me, they planned it but then denied the whole purgatory thing thinking they'd come up with something better as they kept writing. They didn't. And I don't mind.

Here's what I was thinking:1. They wouldn't have been so careful to have shown the weathered tennis shoe to draw the obvious contrast if they didn't want you to come to the conclusion that real time had passed. I'm not talking about what might have happened to a random shoe in some purgatory-like spiritual state. I'm talking about the writers/producers conscious decision to show the aged shoe as one of the last images. Seems to me like a clear attempt by them to make the island events "real."

2. I'm guessing a lot of people who concluded that they were dead from the crash and were in purgatory all along did so based on the footage of the wreckage with no survivors shown over the closing credits. I thought it was a possibility myself, until I got on the internets this morning and read that the footage wasn't in the script and didn't air in other countries. That's why I mentioned it.

 

[Iraqi Information Minister]

I can't imagine spending the last 6 years on this show though. GB Netflix streaming!