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**** OFFICIAL **** LOST - The TV Series (3 Viewers)

The whispers:

Sayid in the Jungle

From "Solitary"

Man's voice-Just let him get out of here

Man's voice-He's seen too much already

Man's voice-What if he tells

Woman's voice-Could just speak to him

Man's voice-No

Sawyer in the jungle

From "Outlaws"

Woman's voice-Maybe we should just talk to him

Man's voice-No if he see us it will ruin everything

Man's voice-What did he see

Woman's voice-They could help us

Man's voice-Can't trust

Man's voice-Come back around

(Sawyer pauses, crickets and cicada are heard)

Man's voice-What did he see

Man's voice-Nothing he was following it

Woman's voice-Speak

Man's voice-Nothing

Frank Duckett's voice-It'll come back around

The one connection I made out of Sawyers "whispers" is the man(Duckett) he killed said "It'll come back around"

I am wondering what the whispers Shannon heard said.
Is this all from official DVD closed captions?if so, :goodposting:

Wow, crazy possibilities with these nuggets. Man/Women over voices almost seem parental. Or caretaker-ish.

 
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What if......

The Island is growing?

I'm not a physics expert, but if we are assuming there is a magnet that can be used to pull planes out of the sky, is it super far fetched to think it could be pushing the ocean away? Tides are controlled by magnetic forces, no? If there is a "project" of some kind of growing an 8th continent...wouldn't that explain the Black Rock? Perhaps originally it wasn't 5 KMs inland.....perhaps it was originally docked?

For the record, I'm not endorsing this theory, just thinking outloud,........ but I do reserve the right to claim it as mine IF it turns out to be true.

However, there is still NO question that there will be an eventual link between Locke and Sarah's legs. None. :banned:
No, tides are controlled by the gravitational pull of the moon...not magnetism.
 
What was Desmond's exact quote about almost being a doctor?
"What do you know about sprains?""I was almost a doctor once."

"Small world."
I like that. He's a mad scientist doctor who got thrown out of the medical community for trying experimental nanobot treatments.
 
What if......

The Island is growing?

I'm not a physics expert, but if we are assuming there is a magnet that can be used to pull planes out of the sky, is it super far fetched to think it could be pushing the ocean away?  Tides are controlled by magnetic forces, no?  If there is a "project" of some kind of growing an 8th continent...wouldn't that explain the Black Rock?  Perhaps originally it wasn't 5 KMs inland.....perhaps it was originally docked?

For the record, I'm not endorsing this theory, just thinking outloud,........ but I do reserve the right to claim it as mine IF it turns out to be true.

However, there is still NO question that there will be an eventual link between Locke and Sarah's legs.  None. :banned:
No, tides are controlled by the gravitational pull of the moon...not magnetism.
Yeah, but there are small pieces of metallic stuff floating the water that can be controlled by a magnet and, well, oh, heck.... it's scientific stuff. Ask bueno. :D
 
Just an fyi that according to IMDB, Jolene Blalock is making a guest appearance as "Nikki" in next week's episode.
If they take us away from the survivors we know for a long block of episodes to start over with the other half of the plane, I'm going to laugh my ### off.
There's another new actress/character listed in IMBD as well.Libby

 
The whispers:

Sayid in the Jungle

From "Solitary"

Man's voice-Just let him get out of here

Man's voice-He's seen too much already

Man's voice-What if he tells

Woman's voice-Could just speak to him

...
Where'd you find this, Boltz?This reminds me of a show (Twilight Zone?) I saw where an old couple's spirits are still in the house and taking care of and/or scaring people.

If the above is accurate, I wonder if it's people in another dimension...or hidden by a gravitational field that distorts light around them--a personal black hole.

 
Regarding the flashback back to Sara's accident:

- If the other driver who died was Shannon's father, that flashback has to be more than four years ago (rules out Sara getting movement back and her legs at the same time Locke loses his). Didn't Shannon and Boone's surviving parents get married when the kids were 8 & 10?

- Also, after Jack saves Sara, there has to be SOME sort of time for them to fall in love, get married, and for whatever happens to end their marraige. Do we know how long they were married?

That flashback has to have been from a while ago. Maybe backing up the 16 year theory already proposed......BUT then how old is Jack, now? To do such a procedure, he would already have to have been a highly qualified surgeon, not just some newbie out of med school or an intern......I think he would have to be close to 50 on the island.
Sarahs speech-Thank you. Wow, can I get another microphone? I think this one's been drinking. A little over two years ago, I blew a tire out - flipped over the center divider into oncoming traffic, and was hit head-on by an SUV. My back was broken. They all said it was irreparable. And then there was Jack. And he promised he would fix me, because that's the kind of guy he is. Because you are the most committed man I have ever known - because you fixed me, I will dance at our wedding. To Jack, my hero, Jack.
Thanks for ending the time debate. :thumbup:
 
Where can I place a wager down that the moment Jack's patient/wife regains feeling in her lower extremities, John Locke loses his?

I'd bet a case on it.  :banned:
I don't think so. When lock was in Australia he says hs'e lived that way for "4 damn years".
And your point is?
The Jack/Carol Vessey scenes seem to be have taken place longer than 4 years ago.
Based on what? How old do you think he is on the island?
Not sure how long he's been on the island, but I think the hospital scenes were older than 4 years back. Jack's hair looked awfully 80's to me, but that would make it 25 years ago, which is ludicrous. I still say that's either 8, 15, or 16 years ago to coincide with the numbers. 4 seems too short.
Assuming a doctor doesn't graduate until he's 25 or so, Jack wouldn't have become a doctor until then. And even then it would probably take him a while to be as prominently placed as he seemed to be. I say he was at least 30 in those flashbacks. He doesn't look much older than 40 now. So I don't think it was any longer than 8 years ago. Probably much less.
Doctors have to go to school forever to be a spinal surgeon when you count interning and residency (ie, only allowed to assist others and can't be the primary surgeon). A cracker jack whiz kid surgeon MIGHT get a shot at 34 at the earliest if he started school right at 18 and never let up and was better than almost all other surgeons. I looked it up HERE, a neurosurgeon (neck and spine) would need 6 years of experience MINIMUM after med school.

So you are looking at . . .

4 years under grad

4 years med school

2 years of specialty med school

6 years residency/training

That's 16 years, making Jack a minimum of 34. And that assumes that Sarah was his first case, and if she was as bad as she said NO WAY do they let him do the surgery as a rookie.

If we want to call BS on the show for trying to fudge reality to make him a surgeon at 25, that's another debate on its own, but a "REAL" and experienced spinal surgeon would have to be around 40.

The issue that I have is that if Desmond is the guy in the stadium (which we assume he is and not a clone/twin/double/brother/etc.), then Desmond would have had to get from the stadium to the island, and as I mentioned earlier there's no way he got to the island 16 years ago as Jack would have to be almost 50 (minimum 34 + 16).

If we go backwards, how old do we think Jack is on the island? To determine when the Sarah accident was, we need to allocate time for him to have operated on her, have her recover, have them date, have them get married, and have them not be married any longer. That has to be several years, IMO.

As for Desmond, for those that have the DVD and just watched the first season, by any chance does anyone remember him being in the first season anywhere--even in the background? I suspect that he will start appearing in other scenes from other flashbacks involving other characters, and I'm curious if they already showed him last year and we missed it or did not pick up on it.
Why is everyone trying to get Desmond to the island 16 years ago? Dude could have been there for three months, I see no reason that he had to be there for 16 years.
 
Another little factoid that has been lost in alot of the Desmond/opening scene speculation...Didn't the guy in the hatch immediately throw on a uniform when he heard the bang? Seems to me he is responding per some duty, rather than out of fear/curiosity. The person in the whole (even if it is Desmond) is there doing a job or following some orders.

 
What if......

The Island is growing?

I'm not a physics expert, but if we are assuming there is a magnet that can be used to pull planes out of the sky, is it super far fetched to think it could be pushing the ocean away? Tides are controlled by magnetic forces, no? If there is a "project" of some kind of growing an 8th continent...wouldn't that explain the Black Rock? Perhaps originally it wasn't 5 KMs inland.....perhaps it was originally docked?

For the record, I'm not endorsing this theory, just thinking outloud,........ but I do reserve the right to claim it as mine IF it turns out to be true.

However, there is still NO question that there will be an eventual link between Locke and Sarah's legs. None. :banned:
No, tides are controlled by the gravitational pull of the moon...not magnetism.
Yeah, but there are small pieces of metallic stuff floating the water that can be controlled by a magnet and, well, oh, heck.... it's scientific stuff. Ask bueno. :D
...or larryboy--one of those two can give you the scientific explanation.
 
A very strong magnet is going to screw up compasses....could be the Black Rock crew thought they were headed in a different direction.
There was an episode in season 1 where Sayid noticed that his compass was off significantly. He talked about it with Jack.
Good catch. I like having people who have watched the DVDs recently around to catch this stuff we've forgotten.
 
Could Adebisi be the black lady's husband who was also in the tail section?
I thought Adebisi was a great character on Oz. That said I don't Rose's husband is a big enough role for him. He just seems to carry a lot of weight and I see that character as being a throw away. I'd much rather see him being the leader of the Others or something with some power/importance.
Rose's husband is supposed to be Samuel L. Jackson if I remember correctly.
 
Sicne we always read too much into these things...Think there's any significance to the licence plate 614 GJ5?
The 61 + 47 (G is the 7th letter of the alphabet) equals 108...not sure about J5
Worst thing about LOST is the numbers and the stretches people make with them.
This post has 64 characters. That's SIXTEEN TIMES FOUR! Or EIGHT SQUARED!
 
The whispers:

Sayid in the Jungle

From "Solitary"

Man's voice-Just let him get out of here

Man's voice-He's seen too much already

Man's voice-What if he tells

Woman's voice-Could just speak to him

...
Where'd you find this, Boltz?This reminds me of a show (Twilight Zone?) I saw where an old couple's spirits are still in the house and taking care of and/or scaring people.

If the above is accurate, I wonder if it's people in another dimension...or hidden by a gravitational field that distorts light around them--a personal black hole.
http://lostlinks.net/
 
Could Adebisi be the black lady's husband who was also in the tail section?
I thought Adebisi was a great character on Oz. That said I don't Rose's husband is a big enough role for him. He just seems to carry a lot of weight and I see that character as being a throw away. I'd much rather see him being the leader of the Others or something with some power/importance.
Rose's husband is supposed to be Samuel L. Jackson if I remember correctly.
:no: That was a rumor that was squashed. Using IMDB can be dangerous, and this was one of those times.
 
A very strong magnet is going to screw up compasses....could be the Black Rock crew thought they were headed in a different direction.
There was an episode in season 1 where Sayid noticed that his compass was off significantly. He talked about it with Jack.
Good catch. I like having people who have watched the DVDs recently around to catch this stuff we've forgotten.
This isn't that unusual though. There are certain rocks that will throw off a compass. Nothing here, IMO...
 
A very strong magnet is going to screw up compasses....could be the Black Rock crew thought they were headed in a different direction.
There was an episode in season 1 where Sayid noticed that his compass was off significantly. He talked about it with Jack.
Good catch. I like having people who have watched the DVDs recently around to catch this stuff we've forgotten.
This isn't that unusual though. There are certain rocks that will throw off a compass. Nothing here, IMO...
No, I think they did that intentionally knowing there would be an active magnet on the island. However, now that we know there's an active magnet on the island, there's nothing more to learn there. The scene has paid off already.
 
I didn't want to say anything because I didn't know how it worked, but it would be really cool if we could leave "other board" stuff on, say, other boards.
The problem with the "other boards" is that they're flooded with the same idiots that frequent the Shark Pool. Everyone knows that the FFA has weeded out the meak and we can have some intelligent conversations with some people with more than half a brain.
link?
Intelligent Conversation
:yawn:
 
Is there any way to limit the responses in this thread to people that have seen a majority of Season 1?
I think we should restrict it to people who have seen every season 1 episode in the last 4 days. :excited:
I watched it all in the past week, some parts several times :bag: One thing I caught was if you enable the CC on the DVD you can see what the whispers were and what Boone heard on the drug runners airplane radio.

"We are the survivors of flight 815"
I watched the whole first season again, too, and now am tempted to watch it again to see what else I missed! We used the CC also - very handy! How the heck did the other survivors get a hold of a radio if the front of the plane is near Jack, etc. and doesn't work? Could there be yet another plane on the island they haven't found yet?
 
Just an fyi that according to IMDB, Jolene Blalock is making a guest appearance as "Nikki" in next week's episode.
If they take us away from the survivors we know for a long block of episodes to start over with the other half of the plane, I'm going to laugh my ### off.
There's another new actress/character listed in IMBD as well.Libby
Libby is scary hot. :X When does the Lost characters draft start?

 
Just an fyi that according to IMDB, Jolene Blalock is making a guest appearance as "Nikki" in next week's episode.
If they take us away from the survivors we know for a long block of episodes to start over with the other half of the plane, I'm going to laugh my ### off.
There's another new actress/character listed in IMBD as well.Libby
Libby is scary hot. :X When does the Lost characters draft start?
:unsure: She has her good days and her bad days

 
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So let me get this straight.... You people are saying that the magnet which could barely pull Jack's necklace is responsible for pulling a plane that was 16,000+ feet high, out of the sky and dragging a wooden boat onto the island?

How do some of you manage to breathe?
Weird magnetic wall + power source that makes super spotlight = Mega Magnet.It's not beyond speculation.

BTW, way to make friends around here, newbie. :rolleyes:

 
So let me get this straight.... You people are saying that the magnet which could barely pull Jack's necklace is responsible for pulling a plane that was 16,000+ feet high, out of the sky and dragging a wooden boat onto the island?

How do some of you manage to breathe?
Weird magnetic wall + power source that makes super spotlight = Mega Magnet.It's not beyond speculation.

BTW, way to make friends around here, newbie. :rolleyes:
I agree with the new guy. I thought the giant wile e. coyote magnet thing was a joke, but apparently some people are serious about it.
 
So let me get this straight.... You people are saying that the magnet which could barely pull Jack's necklace is responsible for pulling a plane that was 16,000+ feet high, out of the sky and dragging a wooden boat onto the island?

How do some of you manage to breathe?
Weird magnetic wall + power source that makes super spotlight = Mega Magnet.It's not beyond speculation.

BTW, way to make friends around here, newbie. :rolleyes:
The more reasonable source of the magnet was a generator.... Not some uber-magnet. Can you find me a magnet anywhere that can pull a plane from the sky and pull a wooden boat miles ashore? Now why do we think some guy on a 70's computer can have such a thing?Want to be friends?
But that same guy can have a billion candle watt power spotlight and a tree uprooting black cloud monster?iHugs.

 
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So let me get this straight.... You people are saying that the magnet which could barely pull Jack's necklace is responsible for pulling a plane that was 16,000+ feet high, out of the sky and dragging a wooden boat onto the island?

How do some of you manage to breathe?
:lmao:
 
What if......

The Island is growing?

I'm not a physics expert, but if we are assuming there is a magnet that can be used to pull planes out of the sky, is it super far fetched to think it could be pushing the ocean away? Tides are controlled by magnetic forces, no? If there is a "project" of some kind of growing an 8th continent...wouldn't that explain the Black Rock? Perhaps originally it wasn't 5 KMs inland.....perhaps it was originally docked?

For the record, I'm not endorsing this theory, just thinking outloud,........ but I do reserve the right to claim it as mine IF it turns out to be true.

However, there is still NO question that there will be an eventual link between Locke and Sarah's legs. None. :banned:
Wasn't there an episode last year where the tide was rising ALOT more and they finally agreed to go to the caves?
 
So let me get this straight.... You people are saying that the magnet which could barely pull Jack's necklace is responsible for pulling a plane that was 16,000+ feet high, out of the sky and dragging a wooden boat onto the island?

How do some of you manage to breathe?
All the magnet would have to do is interfere with the plane's electrical systems, not pull it out of the sky. As for the boats, we're saying it effected navigation not that it actually pulled them.I'm also theorizing that the magnet's power varies.....probably up to full power when controlling the monster.

But thanks for your lovely contribution.

 
heard on the radio that the producers try to make sure that if there is a black rock in any scene that there is also a white rock in the same scene...and that 40 days was the first season, on the island, and the second is to be 88... for whatever symbolic day count 88 is..

 
Not sure if this came up in the last 20 pages, if so I missed if...Throwing out there that Desmond is actually Jack's (half?) brother. Of course there's Desmond calling Jack "brother" about three times or so and Jack even calling Desmond "brother" once sarcastically. That doesn't mean much by itself but where did Jack's dad run off to where he ended up dying? Seemed kind of random but was any reason ever given for his visit to Austrailia?The Lost writers don't waste much time or space so just thinking using "brother" may be significant.

 
Not sure if this came up in the last 20 pages, if so I missed if...

Throwing out there that Desmond is actually Jack's (half?) brother. Of course there's Desmond calling Jack "brother" about three times or so and Jack even calling Desmond "brother" once sarcastically. That doesn't mean much by itself but where did Jack's dad run off to where he ended up dying? Seemed kind of random but was any reason ever given for his visit to Austrailia?

The Lost writers don't waste much time or space so just thinking using "brother" may be significant.
Possibly.However, I think you are reading too much into it. I think the writers wanted him to have a catch phrase that the audience (and Jack) would immediately recognize.

 
Not sure if this came up in the last 20 pages, if so I missed if...

Throwing out there that Desmond is actually Jack's (half?) brother.  Of course there's Desmond calling Jack "brother" about three times or so and Jack even calling Desmond "brother" once sarcastically.  That doesn't mean much by itself but where did Jack's dad run off to where he ended up dying?  Seemed kind of random but was any reason ever given for his visit to Austrailia?

The Lost writers don't waste much time or space so just thinking using "brother" may be significant.
Possibly.However, I think you are reading too much into it. I think the writers wanted him to have a catch phrase that the audience (and Jack) would immediately recognize.
:goodposting: The half-brother thing would be a bit too trite.

 
heard on the radio that the producers try to make sure that if there is a black rock in any scene that there is also a white rock in the same scene...

and that 40 days was the first season, on the island, and the second is to be 88... for whatever symbolic day count 88 is..
Then that boat got named Black Rock for very specific reasons.
 
heard on the radio that the producers try to make sure that if there is a black rock in any scene that there is also a white rock in the same scene...

and that 40 days was the first season, on the island, and the second is to be 88... for whatever symbolic day count 88 is..
Then that boat got named Black Rock for very specific reasons.
Should we assume that there will also be a very significant white rock somewhere on the show?
 
heard on the radio that the producers try to make sure that if there is a black rock in any scene that there is also a white rock in the same scene...

and that 40 days was the first season, on the island, and the second is to be 88... for whatever symbolic day count 88 is..
Then that boat got named Black Rock for very specific reasons.
Should we assume that there will also be a very significant white rock somewhere on the show?
:no: Hollow white dome is the yang to this yin.
 
What was Desmond's exact quote about almost being a doctor?
"What do you know about sprains?""I was almost a doctor once."

"Small world."
Thanks. I have a feeling Desmond is some kind of medical/disease researcher. The mainframes recording data. The quarantine sign indicating the outside of the hatch. The serum he injected into himself as some type of antibody/vaccine.
I've been thinking about this, and I think you are right.Desmond is a medical researcher of some kind.

 
What was Desmond's exact quote about almost being a doctor?
"What do you know about sprains?""I was almost a doctor once."

"Small world."
Thanks. I have a feeling Desmond is some kind of medical/disease researcher. The mainframes recording data. The quarantine sign indicating the outside of the hatch. The serum he injected into himself as some type of antibody/vaccine.
I've been thinking about this, and I think you are right.Desmond is a medical researcher of some kind.
I'm leaning this way myself. For those of you theorizing he was only on the island for a short time (3-4 months) consider how non-chalant he was with his morning routine, injection, etc. The feeling I got was he has been there for a while, he was much too comfortable in his routine to have only been there for a short time.
 
What was Desmond's exact quote about almost being a doctor?
"What do you know about sprains?""I was almost a doctor once."

"Small world."
Thanks. I have a feeling Desmond is some kind of medical/disease researcher. The mainframes recording data. The quarantine sign indicating the outside of the hatch. The serum he injected into himself as some type of antibody/vaccine.
I've been thinking about this, and I think you are right.Desmond is a medical researcher of some kind.
I'm leaning this way myself. For those of you theorizing he was only on the island for a short time (3-4 months) consider how non-chalant he was with his morning routine, injection, etc. The feeling I got was he has been there for a while, he was much too comfortable in his routine to have only been there for a short time.
So if Desmond is a medical researcher, it would indicate that the occurances on the island are of a biological nature rather than a mechanical nature.Which kind of shoots the nanobot theory to threads.

 

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