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**** OFFICIAL **** LOST - The TV Series (1 Viewer)

six???  I counted 12!!!
Wasn't it the same sets of legs.....twice?
:thumbup: First thing I thought when I saw it.Did you also notice that there was no sound of them going through the jungle?
Is it possible that what Jin and Mr. Echo saw weren't really there? Some type of hologram or something?- No sound

- No tracks

- Repeated loop

 
I do have a couple questions:Why are the Others so scary? I know that they have obviously killed quite a few tail-enders, but from the shot it seemed like there were more tail-enders than Others and some of the Others were kids.Do you think that was all of the Others? In looking at the legs, I sure didn't think I saw MC Gainey and the male twins from the boat. They all looked like females or children or slender men.Was the Other kid with the teddy bear Walt? It didn't appear to me that any of the legs where his? They all looked caucasian to me, muddy and dirty, but caucasian.

 
The premise of this episode was that people will find things when they are not looking for them.

Sun found her ring, Jin found love... Michael will find Walt when he is not looking for him.

Since Michael is looking for him he is not going to find him anytime soon.

Question - Is Kate with Sawyer or what?  Sun mentioned it to Kate when she was asking about the bottle... whats up with that?
:goodposting: Re: Kate/Sawyer, it sure sounds like it....or wants to be anyway.
Could it just be that she felt bad for trying to #### him and get on the raft instead of him? She said she never got a chance to say goodbye and I would feel a little bad too if someone I just tried to screw might have just died. There was definitely some tension/feelings between the two, but I think she would still rather shag Jack, but just feels bad about Sawyer.
It could be, but I don't think so.
 
six???  I counted 12!!!
Wasn't it the same sets of legs.....twice?
:thumbup: First thing I thought when I saw it.Did you also notice that there was no sound of them going through the jungle?
Is it possible that what Jin and Mr. Echo saw weren't really there? Some type of hologram or something?- No sound

- No tracks

- Repeated loop
Interesting idea. How could Echo sense they were coming then though?
 
I think the child carrying the teddy bear was Danielle’s son, who she said was taken. Of course she's been on the island for 16 so maybe she wasn't pregnant when she arrived?

 
The premise of this episode was that people will find things when they are not looking for them.

Sun found her ring, Jin found love... Michael will find Walt when he is not looking for him.

Since Michael is looking for him he is not going to find him anytime soon.

Question - Is Kate with Sawyer or what?  Sun mentioned it to Kate when she was asking about the bottle... whats up with that?
:goodposting: Re: Kate/Sawyer, it sure sounds like it....or wants to be anyway.
Could it just be that she felt bad for trying to #### him and get on the raft instead of him? She said she never got a chance to say goodbye and I would feel a little bad too if someone I just tried to screw might have just died. There was definitely some tension/feelings between the two, but I think she would still rather shag Jack, but just feels bad about Sawyer.
It could be, but I don't think so.
Why would she feel bad about that? He's the one that outted her to the entire group after she was accused of poisoning Michael. Love triangle = ratings.
 
The premise of this episode was that people will find things when they are not looking for them.

Sun found her ring, Jin found love... Michael will find Walt when he is not looking for him.

Since Michael is looking for him he is not going to find him anytime soon.

Question - Is Kate with Sawyer or what?  Sun mentioned it to Kate when she was asking about the bottle... whats up with that?
:goodposting: Re: Kate/Sawyer, it sure sounds like it....or wants to be anyway.
Could it just be that she felt bad for trying to #### him and get on the raft instead of him? She said she never got a chance to say goodbye and I would feel a little bad too if someone I just tried to screw might have just died. There was definitely some tension/feelings between the two, but I think she would still rather shag Jack, but just feels bad about Sawyer.
It could be, but I don't think so.
Why would she feel bad about that? He's the one that outted her to the entire group after she was accused of poisoning Michael. Love triangle = ratings.
I would hate to see any kind of love triangle save one with three chicks involved but with Michelle Rodriguez's character "flirting" with Sawyer and Sawyer "flirting" with her and now this news about Kate and Sawyer a love triangle is inevitable. Hopefully this wont make the show jump the shark either.Who was pressing the "execute" button?

 
Anyone notice when Libby said that they had "trust issues"? I wonder if that meant that someone infiltrated them like Ethan did to the other camp.

 
I think the child carrying the teddy bear was Danielle’s son, who she said was taken. Of course she's been on the island for 16 so maybe she wasn't pregnant when she arrived?
I'm pretty sure Danielle's child is a girl. I think the said thet they took HER.Alex could be a boy or girl.

 
I would hate to see any kind of love triangle save one with three chicks involved but with Michelle Rodriguez's character "flirting" with Sawyer and Sawyer "flirting" with her and now this news about Kate and Sawyer a love triangle is inevitable. Hopefully this wont make the show jump the shark either.
This thread is taking an interesting turn.I'll take Kate-Claire-Michelle Rodriguez for 1000 please.

 
I would hate to see any kind of love triangle save one with three chicks involved but with Michelle Rodriguez's character "flirting" with Sawyer and Sawyer "flirting" with her and now this news about Kate and Sawyer a love triangle is inevitable.  Hopefully this wont make the show jump the shark either.
This thread is taking an interesting turn.I'll take Kate-Claire-Michelle Rodriguez for 1000 please.
I meant to say...I'll take Kate - Claire - Rodriguez

 
I like Mr. Ecko so far...but I still think he might be a surviving Nigerian drug smuggler...Also, there are 5 tail enders alive that we know of...we don't know if they killed all the missing 18...

 
I would hate to see any kind of love triangle save one with three chicks involved but with Michelle Rodriguez's character "flirting" with Sawyer and Sawyer "flirting" with her and now this news about Kate and Sawyer a love triangle is inevitable.  Hopefully this wont make the show jump the shark either.
This thread is taking an interesting turn.I'll take Kate-Claire-Michelle Rodriguez for 1000 please.
I meant to say...I'll take Kate - Claire - Rodriguez
1) Kate2) Shannon

3) Claire

I will pass on the tough chick. :thumbdown:

 
I am losing interest in this show fast. The writers are so high on themselves they think they can keep flinging out crap that takes the plot nowhere and people will eat it up. This is more of a show about nothing each week than was Seinfeld.
Crap? The focus is on the rafters and the tailies. I see a plot here and not sure how others don't. The plot is that the tailies are trying to join up with the original group. On their trek, they are trying to avoid the Others. Michael is desperate to find Walt.How do you not see this plot?

 
I was watching the legs closely and I noticed something. Watch the first two sets of legs go. The first one is wearing long brown/tan pants that are frayed at the bottom, the next person (appears to be a woman's legs) walk by. Now go to the last two pair of legs to walk by prior to the child? with a teddy bear. It is a person wearing long brown/tan pants that are frayed at the bottom, the next person (appears to be a woman's legs) walk by. No that was not a typo. The woman's legs are the same. Look at the inside calf on the left leg closely. The mud marks on the two legs are identical.

Now the question is, was this mean to be intentional or did the producers just want to give the impression that there were alot of "Others" and just had the same people walk through the scene repeatedly.

This might bring the clone theories out of hiding again.

Comments?
Those theories are dead. Mud marks aren't cloned. The producers needed the group of Others to be larger and they didn't have enough extras standing around, so they used a couple of them twice. Don't overanalyze it.
 
Liked this episode. We learned more about Jin & Sun, more about the tailies, more about the Others, and there was character development of Ana Lucia and Eko.I realize it's blasphamy here, but I didn't think Kate looked very good last night. The closeups didn't do anything for her.Strong episode, IMO.Looking at the symbols, we now have three. Which programs are they linked to? That may tell us more about the 18 missing tailies.

 
What happened to that big thing in the jungle we used to hear but not see last season, the thing that killed the pilot up in the tree?

 
I think the child carrying the teddy bear was Danielle’s son, who she said was taken.  Of course she's been on the island for 16 so maybe she wasn't pregnant when she arrived?
I'm pretty sure Danielle's child is a girl. I think the said thet they took HER.Alex could be a boy or girl.
The sex of Danielle's child is as of yet unknown. When speaking with Sayid, he asked her who Alex was, to which she replied "my child." IIRC, I also believe that she was pregnant when they shipwrecked as "The Others" came for the baby shortly after it was born.There's what appears to be a pretty good timeline (amongst other things) at this site. I haven't seen any spoilers there, either.

 
The premise of this episode was that people will find things when they are not looking for them.

Sun found her ring, Jin found love... Michael will find Walt when he is not looking for him.

Since Michael is looking for him he is not going to find him anytime soon.

Question - Is Kate with Sawyer or what? Sun mentioned it to Kate when she was asking about the bottle... whats up with that?
good post.Kate still has the hots for Sawyer which could be a problem if he and Michelle Rodriguez heat up or if Sawyer dies.

 
When I saw the impaled guy (sorry, forgot his name) and Jin looked at him and Mr. Echo said his name was... I just got the feeling that maybe he was the "Ethan" to their group who infiltrated them. Leading to his death and the tailies "trust issues"

 
Any one else notice that the "Others" were filmed walking at a different speed or something? It just looked and felt odd.
I didn't at the time, but now that you mention it and coupled with Shuke and other posters saying that there was no sound as they walked makes me wonder if they were holograms or something.
 
Spoiler thought:

We now know who the main character is that dies. And we're told it will be a shock who does it. I think because of the connection, the dog will be the killer. I know that sounds ridiculous but who cares.....
 
six???  I counted 12!!!
Wasn't it the same sets of legs.....twice?
:thumbup: First thing I thought when I saw it.Did you also notice that there was no sound of them going through the jungle?
Is it possible that what Jin and Mr. Echo saw weren't really there? Some type of hologram or something?- No sound

- No tracks

- Repeated loop
Interesting idea. How could Echo sense they were coming then though?
They've been unknowingly strapped into the matrix. That's why locke suddenly gained use of his legs, he's not really able to walk, but the matrix representation of him can.Nobody has actually died, they've just been unplugged from the matrix for reasons only the dharma experiment leaders can explain.

 
I would hate to see any kind of love triangle save one with three chicks involved but with Michelle Rodriguez's character "flirting" with Sawyer and Sawyer "flirting" with her and now this news about Kate and Sawyer a love triangle is inevitable.  Hopefully this wont make the show jump the shark either.
This thread is taking an interesting turn.I'll take Kate-Claire-Michelle Rodriguez for 1000 please.
I meant to say...I'll take Kate - Claire - Rodriguez
1) Kate2) Shannon

3) Claire

I will pass on the tough chick. :thumbdown:
I was starting to get into Sun last night. I think I put it Kate, Shannon, Michelle, Sun, Claire. but it changes on my mood.
 
Any one else notice that the "Others" were filmed walking at a different speed or something?  It just looked and felt odd.
I didn't at the time, but now that you mention it and coupled with Shuke and other posters saying that there was no sound as they walked makes me wonder if they were holograms or something.
Didn't the Others legs look like little women and children's legs? None of them looked really manly or tough. The teddy bear didn't help.
 
What happened to that big thing in the jungle we used to hear but not see last season, the thing that killed the pilot up in the tree?
You wouldn't hear/see it for a few episodes in last season either. It's due to make an appearance at anytime, I'd say. Especially with the tailies trekking through the jungle.
 
Any one else notice that the "Others" were filmed walking at a different speed or something?  It just looked and felt odd.
I didn't at the time, but now that you mention it and coupled with Shuke and other posters saying that there was no sound as they walked makes me wonder if they were holograms or something.
Didn't the Others legs look like little women and children's legs? None of them looked really manly or tough. The teddy bear didn't help.
Good point. I forgot to write another of my thoughts down in my original post. We've been kind of conditioned to think anyone other than the characters originally introduced are "The Others." When I saw the legs going by, sound or no sound, with or without repeats, I just didn't feel like they were "The Others." Who? I don't know.
 
WORST.....

EPISODE....

EVER.....
I thought it was another excellent one. Show keeps getting better and better. What do you expect?
Way too much focus on a wedding ring if you ask me...I mean, we have this friggin' network of bunkers and the why behind them... and the "others", and the "tailenders" and we spend half of the episode on that !#% ring? :confused:

 
WORST.....

EPISODE....

EVER.....
I thought it was another excellent one. Show keeps getting better and better. What do you expect?
Way too much focus on a wedding ring if you ask me...I mean, we have this friggin' network of bunkers and the why behind them... and the "others", and the "tailenders" and we spend half of the episode on that !#% ring? :confused:
I think it was the whole "you will find what you are looking for when you are not looking" theme AND it was to help with Sun and Jin's back stories.
 
six???  I counted 12!!!
Wasn't it the same sets of legs.....twice?
Well, it looked like it was edited pretty tightly. Right away when I saw them hiding I knew they would be showing the feet of the Others, and my first thought was to count them.They did like 2 or 3 pairs from Jin's point of view, and then when they cut to the other side facing Jin, I was watching for the same pair of pants or bare legs to walk by and it was pretty accurate...

...or they muffed up the whole editing job and we saw it both ways... ???
I was watching the legs closely and I noticed something. Watch the first two sets of legs go. The first one is wearing long brown/tan pants that are frayed at the bottom, the next person (appears to be a woman's legs) walk by. Now go to the last two pair of legs to walk by prior to the child? with a teddy bear. It is a person wearing long brown/tan pants that are frayed at the bottom, the next person (appears to be a woman's legs) walk by. No that was not a typo. The woman's legs are the same. Look at the inside calf on the left leg closely. The mud marks on the two legs are identical.Now the question is, was this mean to be intentional or did the producers just want to give the impression that there were alot of "Others" and just had the same people walk through the scene repeatedly.

This might bring the clone theories out of hiding again.

Comments?
why would that mean clones? If you and your clone hop in the mud, does the mud end up in the same places on both of you?
Because the leg shapes were the same
 
Any one else notice that the "Others" were filmed walking at a different speed or something? It just looked and felt odd.
I didn't at the time, but now that you mention it and coupled with Shuke and other posters saying that there was no sound as they walked makes me wonder if they were holograms or something.
Last night while watching this I almost felt like the legs were CGI or something. It looked weird and even my wife noticed that. I actually liked it as it made "the Others" even more mysterious. Still trying to figure out how Mr. Echo (my new favorite character) knew they were coming, yet didn't know Michael was less then 10 feet away from them when he left Jin at the stream. That part was very weird too.

 
I think the child carrying the teddy bear was Danielle’s son, who she said was taken.  Of course she's been on the island for 16 so maybe she wasn't pregnant when she arrived?
I'm pretty sure Danielle's child is a girl. I think the said thet they took HER.Alex could be a boy or girl.
The sex of Danielle's child is as of yet unknown. When speaking with Sayid, he asked her who Alex was, to which she replied "my child." IIRC, I also believe that she was pregnant when they shipwrecked as "The Others" came for the baby shortly after it was born.There's what appears to be a pretty good timeline (amongst other things) at this site. I haven't seen any spoilers there, either.
From the site you listed:Danielle has been on the island for sixteen years. She was part of a science expedition team the wrecked on the island. After a sickness infected her team, she was forced to kill them. She has a daughter, Alex, who was abducted by The Others soon after she gave birth. She has helped the survivors by warning them that the Others were coming, and showing them where to find dynamite to blow the hatch open, but she also kidnapped Aaron in an effort to exchange him for Alex.

 
Not a great episode IMO. Terrible flashback; what did it tell us besides the story of how Jin/Sun met? We already knew it was a rich/poor marriage. I guess we needed to learn that Jin's buddy is a psychic. :shrug:Sun lost her wedding ring in the sand. <---Good call for whomever posted that last week. For the most part, the fuselage survivors were boring to me as well this week.Of course, the saving grace for this episode was the tail section survivors and the rafties.

 
Any one else notice that the "Others" were filmed walking at a different speed or something?  It just looked and felt odd.
I didn't at the time, but now that you mention it and coupled with Shuke and other posters saying that there was no sound as they walked makes me wonder if they were holograms or something.
Still doesn't answer, that if they were holograms OR if they just move without making a sound... HOW DID MR ECKO KNOW THEY WERE COMING????
 
From the site you listed:

Danielle has been on the island for sixteen years. She was part of a science expedition team the wrecked on the island. After a sickness infected her team, she was forced to kill them. She has a daughter, Alex, who was abducted by The Others soon after she gave birth. She has helped the survivors by warning them that the Others were coming, and showing them where to find dynamite to blow the hatch open, but she also kidnapped Aaron in an effort to exchange him for Alex.
Alex' sex has never been discussed. If you followed the season 1 thread, this was beat, resurrected, and beat again...repeatedly. The above web site is making an assumption and has a 50% chance of being correct.Go back and watch season 1 on DVD...never a "she" comment when referencing Alex. Danielle always said "Alex" and once said "my child."

FTR, I think Alex still has a pretty big part to play here.

 
Any one else notice that the "Others" were filmed walking at a different speed or something?  It just looked and felt odd.
I didn't at the time, but now that you mention it and coupled with Shuke and other posters saying that there was no sound as they walked makes me wonder if they were holograms or something.
Didn't the Others legs look like little women and children's legs? None of them looked really manly or tough. The teddy bear didn't help.
Good point. I forgot to write another of my thoughts down in my original post. We've been kind of conditioned to think anyone other than the characters originally introduced are "The Others." When I saw the legs going by, sound or no sound, with or without repeats, I just didn't feel like they were "The Others." Who? I don't know.
I posted the same thing as GStrot earlier. I didn't notice any legs that looked remotely like a large man's legs. The bearded guy and the twins on the boat are not small guys, so I wonder who these "Others" were and if they are the same group as the ones on the boat.Hmmm, just thought of something interesting. What if all of those legs were from young kids? What if they have some sort of powers, i.e. why they wanted Walt. I keep thinking of a cross between the Christopher Reeve movie where all of the kids had mind control-type powers and Peter Pan/Lord of the Flies where the kids were the leaders. I know this is way out there, but it was just kind of spooky and that small group sure didn't seem like they could overpower 23 adults including a bad ### Mr. Echo.

 
No TIVO here, so work with me on this:The "others" walking through the jungle looked like they were being carefuly where they stepped. In my opinion, if they were holograms or CGI, it wouldn't matter where they stepped, as they wouldn't know what they were stepping on, right? Can someone review this scene and see if it looked like they were, or were not stepping over sticks and branches or whatnot. I seem to remember at least one of them purposely not stepping on a branch or something. I think if they were CGI or holograms, this would not be the case.

 
I think the child carrying the teddy bear was Danielle’s son, who she said was taken. Of course she's been on the island for 16 so maybe she wasn't pregnant when she arrived?
I think Danielle's child would be much older than the child carrying the teddy-bear. Based on how quickly the plane survivors got mixed up with the Others, I would think that Danielle's crew would have gotten mixed up in it soon after their crash. Now, that also doesn't mean that her child is exactly 16 because we have no idea how long it took Danielle to change the recording. We just know that it has been 16 since she did it.

 

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