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*** Official Marvels Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (1 Viewer)

While I love watching the show with my family, they could not understand why I kept pausing during May fight scene. :( :)

She is one of those ultra ultra rare women who look hotter at 50 than at 25, and it having nothing to do with weight loss.

I thought maybe she did not have kids but she has 2 according to wiki.

 
Raina character only part I'm not a fan of. Too smug and all-knowing I guess. Kind of generic omniscient badguy with an unknown agenda. Hot though...
Hmmm, she's one of my favorite characters on the show.
I like her too. She's an opportunist and given her latest predicament I'm guessing she'll see an opportunity to try and use Coulson to her advantage and save her skin.
Liked her a lot better this last episode, not so smug now, actually showed some vulnerability and fear in her character.

Was that a flash of Garrett she saw in the rearview mirror just before the Hydra guys got in?!?!

 
Raina character only part I'm not a fan of. Too smug and all-knowing I guess. Kind of generic omniscient badguy with an unknown agenda. Hot though...
Hmmm, she's one of my favorite characters on the show.
I like her too. She's an opportunist and given her latest predicament I'm guessing she'll see an opportunity to try and use Coulson to her advantage and save her skin.
Liked her a lot better this last episode, not so smug now, actually showed some vulnerability and fear in her character.

Was that a flash of Garrett she saw in the rearview mirror just before the Hydra guys got in?!?!
\I think the flash in the mirror was just the hydra agent who was sitting in the back seat.

 
Another really good episode last night. Coulson was particularly cold in his dealings with Raina, which I thought was cool.

 
I'm curious as to why they didn't refer to Bobbi Morse as Mockingbird. Just moving away from the whole superhero name meme?

 
Another really good episode last night. Coulson was particularly cold in his dealings with Raina, which I thought was cool.
Yeah that was very well played. You knew he had an ace up his sleeve - no way he would've just sacrificed Simmons like that - but it was still cool watching how calculated he was and how it all played out.

I'm liking the mix of the old and new team members a lot.

 
Raina character only part I'm not a fan of. Too smug and all-knowing I guess. Kind of generic omniscient badguy with an unknown agenda. Hot though...
Hmmm, she's one of my favorite characters on the show.
I like her too. She's an opportunist and given her latest predicament I'm guessing she'll see an opportunity to try and use Coulson to her advantage and save her skin.
Liked her a lot better this last episode, not so smug now, actually showed some vulnerability and fear in her character.Was that a flash of Garrett she saw in the rearview mirror just before the Hydra guys got in?!?!
\I think the flash in the mirror was just the hydra agent who was sitting in the back seat.
Maybe I was on crack, that makes more sense. Just seemed odd to me as they didnt show that agent other than in the rearview and then you see Whitehall get in the car on one side and another agent get in on another.

 
Another really good episode last night. Coulson was particularly cold in his dealings with Raina, which I thought was cool.
Yeah that was very well played. You knew he had an ace up his sleeve - no way he would've just sacrificed Simmons like that - but it was still cool watching how calculated he was and how it all played out. I'm liking the mix of the old and new team members a lot.
That was awesome, the desperation in her voice and basically pleading with Coulson was awesome.

Thought the writers would have left Simmons embedded in Hydra a little longer, seems they could have squeezed another good episode or two out of her being there.

 
Another really good episode last night. Coulson was particularly cold in his dealings with Raina, which I thought was cool.
Yeah that was very well played. You knew he had an ace up his sleeve - no way he would've just sacrificed Simmons like that - but it was still cool watching how calculated he was and how it all played out. I'm liking the mix of the old and new team members a lot.
That was awesome, the desperation in her voice and basically pleading with Coulson was awesome.Thought the writers would have left Simmons embedded in Hydra a little longer, seems they could have squeezed another good episode or two out of her being there.
Yeah I thought so as well. I expected her to get outed, and undergo some level of brainwashing before the team saved the day. Could have led to future plot points where you question her loyalty (ie the brainwashing how ever short was effective on some level).

 
Corporation said:
Buckna said:
packersfan said:
Another really good episode last night. Coulson was particularly cold in his dealings with Raina, which I thought was cool.
Yeah that was very well played. You knew he had an ace up his sleeve - no way he would've just sacrificed Simmons like that - but it was still cool watching how calculated he was and how it all played out. I'm liking the mix of the old and new team members a lot.
That was awesome, the desperation in her voice and basically pleading with Coulson was awesome.Thought the writers would have left Simmons embedded in Hydra a little longer, seems they could have squeezed another good episode or two out of her being there.
Yeah I thought so as well. I expected her to get outed, and undergo some level of brainwashing before the team saved the day. Could have led to future plot points where you question her loyalty (ie the brainwashing how ever short was effective on some level).
They still could. She may have been brainwashed without our seeing it as a precaution, especially given her history as a shield agent.

 
This show has gotten surprisingly good. Much less time trapped on the bus has certainly helped. :thumbup:

I thought Fitz's subconscious admiring Mack's physique was an interesting touch. #nohomo

And the introduction of Bobbi was really well done. When she did that little batons out crouch/bow thing in the hallway, we thought maybe she was Black Widow in disguise.

 
Kinda disappointed with how Ward escaped. (i knew it was inevitable) Too cliche. Should've had SHIELD successfully transport him then escape once in his brothers custody.

 
Rayderr said:
Kinda disappointed with how Ward escaped. (i knew it was inevitable) Too cliche. Should've had SHIELD successfully transport him then escape once in his brothers custody.
He was in the military's custody, wasn't he?
 
Rayderr said:
Kinda disappointed with how Ward escaped. (i knew it was inevitable) Too cliche. Should've had SHIELD successfully transport him then escape once in his brothers custody.
He was in the military's custody, wasn't he?
Was it military? I thought it was still SHIELD. Either way somethings didn't make sense. why not hit him with the night night gun? Keep the hood on him, etc. Just seemed to predictable the way it happened.

 
Rayderr said:
Kinda disappointed with how Ward escaped. (i knew it was inevitable) Too cliche. Should've had SHIELD successfully transport him then escape once in his brothers custody.
He was in the military's custody, wasn't he?
Was it military? I thought it was still SHIELD. Either way somethings didn't make sense. why not hit him with the night night gun? Keep the hood on him, etc. Just seemed to predictable the way it happened.
I thought they might have staged something like a hydra team hits the van and takes Ward... and then we find out it was Shield posing and secretly taking him back into custody. Turn that part of the plot of the episode back around on us.
 
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Rayderr said:
Kinda disappointed with how Ward escaped. (i knew it was inevitable) Too cliche. Should've had SHIELD successfully transport him then escape once in his brothers custody.
He was in the military's custody, wasn't he?
Was it military? I thought it was still SHIELD. Either way somethings didn't make sense. why not hit him with the night night gun? Keep the hood on him, etc. Just seemed to predictable the way it happened.
I thought they might have staged something like a hydra team hits the van and takes Ward... and then we find out it was Shield posing and secretly taking him back into custody. Turn that part of the plot of the episode back around on us.
That actually would have been awesome. He'll be taking Skye to daddy soon enough.

 
Rayderr said:
Psychopav said:
Rayderr said:
Kinda disappointed with how Ward escaped. (i knew it was inevitable) Too cliche. Should've had SHIELD successfully transport him then escape once in his brothers custody.
He was in the military's custody, wasn't he?
Was it military? I thought it was still SHIELD. Either way somethings didn't make sense. why not hit him with the night night gun? Keep the hood on him, etc. Just seemed to predictable the way it happened.
it would have to be military wouldn't it? but yeah, if I'm escorting Ward, he's not conscious or able to move.

 
Rayderr said:
Psychopav said:
Rayderr said:
Kinda disappointed with how Ward escaped. (i knew it was inevitable) Too cliche. Should've had SHIELD successfully transport him then escape once in his brothers custody.
He was in the military's custody, wasn't he?
Was it military? I thought it was still SHIELD. Either way somethings didn't make sense. why not hit him with the night night gun? Keep the hood on him, etc. Just seemed to predictable the way it happened.
it would have to be military wouldn't it? but yeah, if I'm escorting Ward, he's not conscious or able to move.
Agreed that it was cliche. He is able to turn away and dislocate his thumb? C'mon, just silly. He shouldn't be able to move, let alone turn around and pull your handcuffs off while none of the guards are looking. What else is there to look at besides Ward? I've liked the show a lot late, but that was a terrible scene.

 
Agreed that Ward's escape was predictable and cliche.

Loving the show though. Any word on ratings? This thing is really firing on all cylinders, hope it keeps going.

Joss Whedon does a great job of taking popular, jovial characters and tearing them down (Wash in Firefly, Topher in Dollhouse) and has nailed it again with Fitz. Every scene with him is so powerful.

 
Agreed that Ward's escape was predictable and cliche.

Loving the show though. Any word on ratings? This thing is really firing on all cylinders, hope it keeps going.

Joss Whedon does a great job of taking popular, jovial characters and tearing them down (Wash in Firefly, Topher in Dollhouse) and has nailed it again with Fitz. Every scene with him is so powerful.
Appears to be in good shape according to these guys:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/10/23/abc-predictions-resurrection-is-a-toss-up-to-be-canceled-or-renewed/318136/

 
Corporation said:
Rayderr said:
Psychopav said:
Rayderr said:
Kinda disappointed with how Ward escaped. (i knew it was inevitable) Too cliche. Should've had SHIELD successfully transport him then escape once in his brothers custody.
He was in the military's custody, wasn't he?
Was it military? I thought it was still SHIELD. Either way somethings didn't make sense. why not hit him with the night night gun? Keep the hood on him, etc. Just seemed to predictable the way it happened.
I thought they might have staged something like a hydra team hits the van and takes Ward... and then we find out it was Shield posing and secretly taking him back into custody. Turn that part of the plot of the episode back around on us.
That actually would have been awesome. He'll be taking Skye to daddy soon enough.
See, that wouldve actually been even better. Have The Captain/Agent Cooper stop the transport and take Ward prisoner to get information on Skye. And you know he wouldn't treat Ward anywhere near as good as SHIELD.

 
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Ratings were up slightly and matched the season premiere this week. I'd think that would be good since most shows drop from their premieres as the season wears on.

Liked seeing an ad for Agent Carter in addition to the extended Avengers 2 trailer. But theres a Marvel special next week on election night, then the last 4 episodes of the first half,a few weeks off during holidays, and then Agent Carter starts in January for 8 weeks?

 
Ratings were up slightly and matched the season premiere this week. I'd think that would be good since most shows drop from their premieres as the season wears on.

Liked seeing an ad for Agent Carter in addition to the extended Avengers 2 trailer. But theres a Marvel special next week on election night, then the last 4 episodes of the first half,a few weeks off during holidays, and then Agent Carter starts in January for 8 weeks?
This is a big deal this week, since it went up against the World Series Game 6. I know I just DVR'd it (Series is set up) and watched it later in the week.

They ought to be able to get ratings info based on DVR'ing. Shows would probably get a boost when they are up against things that are hard to watch DVR'd like sports.

 
Ratings were up slightly and matched the season premiere this week. I'd think that would be good since most shows drop from their premieres as the season wears on.

Liked seeing an ad for Agent Carter in addition to the extended Avengers 2 trailer. But theres a Marvel special next week on election night, then the last 4 episodes of the first half,a few weeks off during holidays, and then Agent Carter starts in January for 8 weeks?
This is a big deal this week, since it went up against the World Series Game 6. I know I just DVR'd it (Series is set up) and watched it later in the week.

They ought to be able to get ratings info based on DVR'ing. Shows would probably get a boost when they are up against things that are hard to watch DVR'd like sports.
Isn't there something like "Ratings +3" I can't remember what's it actually called, but it has a +3 to indicate people who viewed it on DVR/Streaming within 3 days of the original airing.

 
Ratings were up slightly and matched the season premiere this week. I'd think that would be good since most shows drop from their premieres as the season wears on.

Liked seeing an ad for Agent Carter in addition to the extended Avengers 2 trailer. But theres a Marvel special next week on election night, then the last 4 episodes of the first half,a few weeks off during holidays, and then Agent Carter starts in January for 8 weeks?
This is a big deal this week, since it went up against the World Series Game 6. I know I just DVR'd it (Series is set up) and watched it later in the week.

They ought to be able to get ratings info based on DVR'ing. Shows would probably get a boost when they are up against things that are hard to watch DVR'd like sports.
Isn't there something like "Ratings +3" I can't remember what's it actually called, but it has a +3 to indicate people who viewed it on DVR/Streaming within 3 days of the original airing.
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From "HowStuffWorks.com"

Whether we're talking Nielsen numbers or ratings reported from DVR data, one of the biggest challenges with DVR ratings is that they don't come in right away. If you TiVo "Fringe" on Friday night but don't watch the recording until Tuesday, the network's ratings can't show your viewing activity until that time. Because of the time-shifting nature of DVRs, networks are now interested in ratings during a time range rather than just the date and time that the show aired.

Most networks use Nielsen's Live Plus service to track ratings. Live Plus looks at who watched shows on their DVRs within different time frames. Generally, it tracks three major categories: Live-Plus-Same-Day, Live-Plus-Three and Live-Plus-Seven. Each one looks at a broader time-frame, so Live-Plus-Same-Day looks not only at who was watching when the show aired, but also who watched the show that day and the next. Live-Plus-Three and Live-Plus-Seven track who watched within three and seven days of the original airing, respectively. When Nielsen first rolled out its Live Plus service, network executives were uncertain, but it's become an industry standard.

These Live Plus ratings can make a big difference when a large portion of a show's fans are watching on their DVRs. In 2007 when Live-Plus-Seven was starting to gain traction with networks, 23 percent of 18 to 49-year-olds watching "The Office" did so on their DVRs within a week of the first run. That's a big ratings boost just from DVRs, and "The Office" isn't the only show that's benefited from DVR ratings. A January 2011 episode of "Fringe" jumped an entire ratings point based only on Live-Plus-Three data
 
While the show is much improved, I'm finding I'm consistently having the same reaction to SHIELD this year. Which is that I think it's going in a decent overall narrative direction but that individual episodes aren't very compelling on their own terms. The two exceptions were the back to back episodes with the May on May fight scene and then the big Bobbi fight scene the next episode.

But that's how I felt about this episode. I think it's smart to have Ward be a wild card with his own agenda that isn't tied into Hydra or SHIELD. I think the show works best when you don't know exactly what Ward, or Talbot, or the Doctor want. And if the main storyline is really introducing

the idea of the Inhumans
I can get behind that. But that didn't make the episode itself particularly exciting. Ming Na Wen and Adrienne Palicki are the two cast members who pop the most in the story and last night they were essentially confined to speaking to each other on the radio.

And I still have other issues. Hunter might as well be called Poochie. Mac and Tripp are both written incredibly generically (at least Mac was given some rough edges last night, but otherwise neither register as actual characters).

 
While the show is much improved, I'm finding I'm consistently having the same reaction to SHIELD this year. Which is that I think it's going in a decent overall narrative direction but that individual episodes aren't very compelling on their own terms. The two exceptions were the back to back episodes with the May on May fight scene and then the big Bobbi fight scene the next episode.

But that's how I felt about this episode. I think it's smart to have Ward be a wild card with his own agenda that isn't tied into Hydra or SHIELD. I think the show works best when you don't know exactly what Ward, or Talbot, or the Doctor want. And if the main storyline is really introducing

the idea of the Inhumans
I can get behind that. But that didn't make the episode itself particularly exciting. Ming Na Wen and Adrienne Palicki are the two cast members who pop the most in the story and last night they were essentially confined to speaking to each other on the radio.

And I still have other issues. Hunter might as well be called Poochie. Mac and Tripp are both written incredibly generically (at least Mac was given some rough edges last night, but otherwise neither register as actual characters).
Lol at Poochie.

 
Can someone confirm from this weeks episide. I know this should probably be obvious but worth asking

we are suppose to assume that Ward killed brother and parents in the fire?
 
NewlyRetired said:
Can someone confirm from this weeks episide. I know this should probably be obvious but worth asking

we are suppose to assume that Ward killed brother and parents in the fire?
Yes

 
Interesting twist this week with Skye's father and mother. Should be good to see what he does.

 

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