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*** Official Marvels Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (1 Viewer)
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FUBAR
Footballguy
as is Detective Kellerman's.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I'd speculate that their not aging and their ability to touch the obelisk have the same root cause.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Sky's father aged I think. When they did the flash back at the end when he finds Sky's mom dead, they digitally made him look much younger than he was in present time.
Disco Stu
Confirmed FBGal
Yep.
Between Sky's mom getting disected and Ward killing his own family this was a really dark episode.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I am losing track of things.
*Who can touch the Obilisk? Sky's mom could. I think someone else could, Reina?
*Do we know yet how Sky's dad got his powers?
*Who can touch the Obilisk? Sky's mom could. I think someone else could, Reina?
*Do we know yet how Sky's dad got his powers?
Mr. Ected
Footballguy
Could it be that they just age slowly rather than don't age? That's how Skye's dad could have looked 'younger' in the flashback.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I obviously don't know for sure but I don't think so.
They went out of their way to make him look VERY young. The actor looked like he did in Twin Peaks, which is time period they likely used when creating the CGI face.
The age difference from the late 80's (when he found Sky's mothers body) and present time seem roughly accurate to me.
Peak
Footballguy
Didn't see this posted anywhere here...but spoilers just in case...
Opens up the MCU for some interesting options and character development down the road. Makes you wonder more about Skye's father and his origins too.
Learn the Identity of the Mysterious Alien Race in Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/news/tv/23698/learn_the_identity_of_the_mysterious_alien_race_in_marvels_agents_of_shield.#ixzz3Jdy7MC43
More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/news/tv/23698/learn_the_identity_of_the_mysterious_alien_race_in_marvels_agents_of_shield.#ixzz3Jdy7MC43
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I think just about everyone who's familiar with the comics universe has figured out who the alien race is. Just as I'm pretty sure most of those people have a pretty strong opinion on what that makes Skye (and what is probably contained in the "the Diviner").
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Right, that was my entire point.
The dad clearly aged from the late 80's to present day.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Last night provided enough clues, IMO, to confirm a few theories about where the show is going, so I'll post a guess at what the winter cliffhanger will be in spoiler tags ...
The song playing during the dream sequence was Daisy Bell (Bicycle Built For Two), which is a pretty big clue that Skye is Daisy Johnson and "the Doctor" is Calvin Zabo/Mr. Hyde. And, of course everything that Raina said, including mentioning the Kree, seems to confirm that the Diviner contains Terrigen Mist that is tied to the Inhumans.
So here's my guess on the winter cliffhanger.
Coulson several times mentions testing the structural integrity of the tunnel to the lost city. Chekhov once said that you never introduce a structurally unstable cavern in Act I without having it collapse in Act V. Daisy Johnson has seismic powers in the comics, so I'm guessing that after all the yadda yadda yadda with her father, revealing her name, Skye is exposed to the Terrigen Mist and the city begins to collapse. It looks like the team is going to be trapped and Skye is able to somehow stop the cave-in and everyone wonders what the hell she's become. Cue Agent Carter promo and promo for the back 12 in March.
So here's my guess on the winter cliffhanger.
Coulson several times mentions testing the structural integrity of the tunnel to the lost city. Chekhov once said that you never introduce a structurally unstable cavern in Act I without having it collapse in Act V. Daisy Johnson has seismic powers in the comics, so I'm guessing that after all the yadda yadda yadda with her father, revealing her name, Skye is exposed to the Terrigen Mist and the city begins to collapse. It looks like the team is going to be trapped and Skye is able to somehow stop the cave-in and everyone wonders what the hell she's become. Cue Agent Carter promo and promo for the back 12 in March.
MindCrime
Footballguy
Yes. I was watching this with the family tonight, had a tough time following dialogue between her and Coulson because I was too focused on her. That white top was awesome.Oh, and I love how this show has evolved.
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LOL, I was travelling and missed this update, but when I watched this episode over the weekend I will say that the white top drew my focus in that scene. Did I miss anything important? I think she has overtaken my favorite female on the show over Skye.
Socrates11
Footballguy
packersfan
Footballguy
That was a badass play by Skye. I loved it as well.
Also laughed at Ward telling Cal he wouldn't mind seeing his dark side. Ward's character has grown by leaps and bounds this season.
I'm enjoying this show a lot but I will say that as someone who doesn't read comics all of the big reveals meant nothing to me so I couldn't enjoy them as much as people who knew who "Daisy" is and Cal and all of that. I had to read recaps after the show to find out why everyone was so excited and what it all meant. I'm sure they'll explain in time what Skye has become but for those of us who have no idea what's going on in the comics universe it does feel like we're way behind the curve in terms of some of the enjoyment level.
This. It really does feel like you need to have read the comics to understand what the hell is going on most of the time. It detracts from the enjoyment of the show.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
I have to say that I agree with this. I don't think it would be AS big a deal if they threw a little more of their effects budget towards the super power stuff, and maybe explained a bit more.
I assume that "Mr. Hyde" has some sort of strength power associated with rage? I could tell that Cal is crazy when he gets mad and that he is a killer but nothing really jumped out as him being some sort of super villain. I mean, if he got into it with Ward, would he have actually won the fight? From the show I'd have to assume not but from the way people are talking about him I get the feeling I have that wrong.
Also, what "power" did Sky exhibit? The ability to spontaneously generate wind in her hair as she sticks out her chest?
packersfan
Footballguy
I don't know what powers "Daisy" has but I'm totally in favor of Skye sticking out her chest in every future episode.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Maybe she's born with it.Agreed that I feel left out of some of this stuff. Thankfully a good friend of mine runs the welcome to level 7 podcast which helps a lot.
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Peak
Footballguy
They are taking some things from the comics and twisting them to fit the world they are making in MCU-TV. I like where they are going with it so far. I'm not sure if they are going to make Cal "Mr. Hyde", but it seems like they might. Because of SONY holding the rights to the term "mutants", the MCU is dancing around that issue and using other means to tell the story.
Skye (Daisy) is basically an Inhuman. The terrigen crystal / terrigen myst that sprayed Skye and Rayna are what triggers their powers. I'm assuming Rayna has some sort of ability, as she was able to hold the obilisk and didn't turn to dust like Trip. Skye (Daisy) has the ability to cause earthquakes. Thats why the ground was shaking at the end causing the dust to fly in the cavern. It'll be interesting to see how it goes moving forward. Seeing a hero born on MCU-TV is pretty interesting, and the use of the Inhumans/Terrigen Myst sets the stage for the proposed Inhumans movie coming in 2018. 
Doesn't really hurt my enjoyment of the show at all. They've done some good world and character building and they know appealing beyond the comic fans is the only way to be successful. If anything, it just makes me want to learn more about the background.
Raina appeared to have some sort physical appearance alteration (whiskers? Spines?) Will be interesting to see how she reacts if after seeking out this transformation it turns her unto a freak (cant say mutant thanks to licensing issues.)
Spot on with Skye shooting Ward. More intrigue about Boobie and her flash drive. Sad to see that one character go at the end, but glad the one that seemed dead last episode is still alive.
Cant wait for Agent Carter, wish we didnt have to wait all the way until March for more Shield.
Raina appeared to have some sort physical appearance alteration (whiskers? Spines?) Will be interesting to see how she reacts if after seeking out this transformation it turns her unto a freak (cant say mutant thanks to licensing issues.)
Spot on with Skye shooting Ward. More intrigue about Boobie and her flash drive. Sad to see that one character go at the end, but glad the one that seemed dead last episode is still alive.
Cant wait for Agent Carter, wish we didnt have to wait all the way until March for more Shield.
I think I mentioned it before, but they are definitely doing something similar to a lot of these other shows advertising "Midseason Finales." Wrapping up most of the plot of the half season and laying seeds for the second half for the plot to focus on new things and go in a different direction.
Makes sense as these 20 episode season shows are having a harder time competing against the limited run, more focused programs like on AMC or HBO.
Makes sense as these 20 episode season shows are having a harder time competing against the limited run, more focused programs like on AMC or HBO.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Who was the guy with no eyes at the end?
No idea, assuming he's like Reyna and Skye. I read some of the spoilers, so I don't want to go further (none mentioned him, just Skye and her dad). I agree a little with the posts above about feeling a little left out, but honestly it hasn't bothered me that much. I think this season has been really solid and I like the tie in to the movies, just makes it better IMHO.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I am enjoying the show as much or more than last season, but overall the viewership is down.
Of the 10 episodes, 9 of them were less watched than the least watched episode in season 1.
The good news is that the last 2 episodes have bumped back over the 5 million viewer mark.
Of the 10 episodes, 9 of them were less watched than the least watched episode in season 1.
The good news is that the last 2 episodes have bumped back over the 5 million viewer mark.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
My daughter and I don't read the comics either so most we have to learn on our own. Once we get a name for an unknown character, we use our trusty Marvel Encyclopedia to see what that means in the comics world to catch ourselves up.
But I do agree that the big reveals lack punch for us as well.
Sebowski
Footballguy
I completely disagree. I think not knowing the backstory makes it more interesting. This stuff is all new and fresh with every where to go if you don't know the spoilers. It's just a different type of enjoyment. Sure, the people who know all the comics will be a step ahead of you, but who cares? #### them. They'll be pissed when there is a twist that isn;t "cannon". It's fine. There isn't right way about it. I'm personally going to back off the theories and spoilers and take it in as it is being told to me in the medium that get me interested. That goes for this show and the movie universe.
GregR
Footballguy
I think you may have set off a powder keg there. Some people might consider it a shot across their bow. But you were really on the ball. Don't let it stop you from firing. Go ahead and give 'em a full broadsides. Others might even pirate your ideas.
(HULK)
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Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
No commentary on this week's episode? I thought it was a great episode. I don't know anything about the inhumans and very little about civil war but its sure looking like Agents of Shield is going to be a lynchpin of ushering in the next phase of the MCU. One thing's for sure, the days of no super powers on this show seem to be over.
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MindCrime
Footballguy
Awesome episode, imo.
Coulson masterminding the total takedown of Hydra, and some new intrigue with Bobbi and Tripp at the end. Reina being saved by teleported guy also sets up a possible new faction going forward (not a comic reader, so this may be the beginning of stuff talked about earlier in the thread).
packersfan
Footballguy
Who has superpowers in the main cast besides Daisy Skye?Rich Conway said:
Just seems we're going that direction. Who knows, maybe that won't happen. Just saying I liked the show better at the beginning before all the alien/superpower stuff became the focus.
packersfan
Footballguy
I really enjoyed the episode. I like some of the character turns, notably Fitz keeping Daisy Skye's secret and working with her and trying to comfort her and Simmons going a little Joseph McCarthy on everyone.
May not be popular but I like Ward since he went all dark. It's made the character more compelling although they need to avoid making him into too much of a Hannibal Lecter clone.
May not be popular but I like Ward since he went all dark. It's made the character more compelling although they need to avoid making him into too much of a Hannibal Lecter clone.
Corporation
Angry Bovine
The midseason break really killed the momentum of the show, but the episodes have been really good IMO. This show is definitely helping set the stage for the next phase of the MCU.
packersfan
Footballguy
That's how I feel too. I've enjoyed the episodes but it does feel like a little zip is missing. But overall this show really has come a long way since it first started. So much better now.
Agreed, I like the shows, but the break for Agent Carter (which I enjoyed as well) seemed to make you forget where we were. It's a shame because the season was rolling so well.
The Big Guy
Fear the Blitz
Nothing on the weird other Shield group running around?
FUBAR
Footballguy
Haven't figured it out yet, other than they seem to think they're doing the right thing while so are our heroes.
GregR
Footballguy
With how hard the military went after Coulson's group who were all clandestine... I hope they aren't going to ignore how Admiral Adama's version of SHIELD fared sailing around in a big old aircraft carrier.
Mention/flashback of their own problems with the army, or mention how they had to hack everyone's satellites to go undetected, or show the carrier can cloak. Just something.
Mention/flashback of their own problems with the army, or mention how they had to hack everyone's satellites to go undetected, or show the carrier can cloak. Just something.
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Surely they've got to explain how they disappeared from not just the world but also Coulson.
Not sure where they are going with this split. The idea that they run thiers as a "democracy" is interesting although problematic. Curious if they will go more into the special cargo on the ship they were suppoused to sink. Any clues on if it is a helicarrier or a normal carrier?
Not sure where they are going with this split. The idea that they run thiers as a "democracy" is interesting although problematic. Curious if they will go more into the special cargo on the ship they were suppoused to sink. Any clues on if it is a helicarrier or a normal carrier?
