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'thecatch said:
Mass Effect gamer scores:ME1 - 1050/1200ME2 - 1355/1355ME3 - 1050/1050 :bowtie: :nerd:
NEERRRRRRDDDDD!!!With that said, I'm trying to catch up. ME1 is the hardest to get stuff in because it takes multiple play throughs.
Yeah, ME1 takes at least three play throughs if I remember correctly because there are achievements for completing most of the game with certain squad mates.
Yep. I think its possible to get 3 squadmates done in one play through if you alternate correctly but I can't remember how to do it. So I'm just running with Wrex and Garrus right now. Already had Liara, Ash and Tali from back in 2007. I honestly let Kaiden die every play through back then so he is like a mystery character to me, lol. Garrus dies... a lot. Even with his sooped up armor and weapons. Insanity is insane in ME1. A lot harder than I remember. Husks are formidable opponents with it on. They could make the ultimate Mass Effect game if time and money wasn't a problem. Take the space and planet exploration of ME1, add to it the sheer size of the Citadel and the continuous movement without loading cut screens from ME1, put in the character development and story writing of ME2 and then throw in the combat system, voice work, music and overall theatrical presentation of ME3. That would be an incredible game.
 
Help me out with something re: the online pass & EA hatred of the secondary market.

Let's assume that to get the "best" ending, a high EMS or readiness is required. This requires you to play online, which I believe you can only do with the "online pass" which would mean you bought the game new.

Now if IT is true and destroy means you wake up in the rubble continuing the fight w/ the reapers and you have a high EMS so you might actually win (due to online multiplayer via the online pass b/c you bought the game new), you get the best ending. All b/c you bought the game new.

Would EA really go that far to make a statement against the secondary market?

I think they would. Am I making sense?

 
Help me out with something re: the online pass & EA hatred of the secondary market.Let's assume that to get the "best" ending, a high EMS or readiness is required. This requires you to play online, which I believe you can only do with the "online pass" which would mean you bought the game new.Now if IT is true and destroy means you wake up in the rubble continuing the fight w/ the reapers and you have a high EMS so you might actually win (due to online multiplayer via the online pass b/c you bought the game new), you get the best ending. All b/c you bought the game new.Would EA really go that far to make a statement against the secondary market?I think they would. Am I making sense?
Sadly, yes you are making sense.
 
I still haven't replayed this. I'm not sure why. Maybe to avoid disappointment? Maybe I'm waiting for the DLC to show me my choices will matter?

I'm about to start the Game of Thrones RPG. Which I know got some bad reviews, and lacks in gameplay and graphics. However, I am confident that the story will be compelling.

 
Help me out with something re: the online pass & EA hatred of the secondary market.Let's assume that to get the "best" ending, a high EMS or readiness is required. This requires you to play online, which I believe you can only do with the "online pass" which would mean you bought the game new.Now if IT is true and destroy means you wake up in the rubble continuing the fight w/ the reapers and you have a high EMS so you might actually win (due to online multiplayer via the online pass b/c you bought the game new), you get the best ending. All b/c you bought the game new.Would EA really go that far to make a statement against the secondary market?I think they would. Am I making sense?
Sadly, yes you are making sense.
But I'm holding out hope for a better ending (gotta log onto multiplayer to make sure I get the 'best' ending)
 
Help me out with something re: the online pass & EA hatred of the secondary market.Let's assume that to get the "best" ending, a high EMS or readiness is required. This requires you to play online, which I believe you can only do with the "online pass" which would mean you bought the game new.Now if IT is true and destroy means you wake up in the rubble continuing the fight w/ the reapers and you have a high EMS so you might actually win (due to online multiplayer via the online pass b/c you bought the game new), you get the best ending. All b/c you bought the game new.Would EA really go that far to make a statement against the secondary market?I think they would. Am I making sense?
Sadly, yes you are making sense.
But I'm holding out hope for a better ending (gotta log onto multiplayer to make sure I get the 'best' ending)
Yes quote unquote best ending. Multiplayer isn't bad. Its just repeptitive. No imagination to it. Just kill this, defend this point, lather rinse repeat. I think it annoys me more that we HAVE to play it to increase EMS unless we own a smart phone.
 
Has anyone attempted an Insanity playthrough on ME2 or ME3? Thinking about doing this, but wondering what the best class would be.

Vanguard has been the most fun, by far, but I'm thinking it would also be the most difficult class to use on Insanity. I'm leaning toward Infiltrator or Engineer. Soldier is kind of boring, and I've never played as a Sentinel or as an Adept. Thoughts?

 
Has anyone attempted an Insanity playthrough on ME2 or ME3? Thinking about doing this, but wondering what the best class would be. Vanguard has been the most fun, by far, but I'm thinking it would also be the most difficult class to use on Insanity. I'm leaning toward Infiltrator or Engineer. Soldier is kind of boring, and I've never played as a Sentinel or as an Adept. Thoughts?
Soldier was the easiest for ME2, IMO. In ME3, I didn't have much problem using an Infiltrator - the cloaking is basically a get out of jail free card. I'm about 2/3rd of the way through with an Engineer run and its much more challenging. Agree on Vanguard; haven't played through as an adept yet.
 
Has anyone attempted an Insanity playthrough on ME2 or ME3? Thinking about doing this, but wondering what the best class would be. Vanguard has been the most fun, by far, but I'm thinking it would also be the most difficult class to use on Insanity. I'm leaning toward Infiltrator or Engineer. Soldier is kind of boring, and I've never played as a Sentinel or as an Adept. Thoughts?
Soldier was the easiest for ME2, IMO. In ME3, I didn't have much problem using an Infiltrator - the cloaking is basically a get out of jail free card. I'm about 2/3rd of the way through with an Engineer run and its much more challenging. Agree on Vanguard; haven't played through as an adept yet.
Good information here. Thanks very much for the feedback! I assume that Infiltrator must also be a pretty solid choice for ME2, right?
 
Has anyone attempted an Insanity playthrough on ME2 or ME3? Thinking about doing this, but wondering what the best class would be. Vanguard has been the most fun, by far, but I'm thinking it would also be the most difficult class to use on Insanity. I'm leaning toward Infiltrator or Engineer. Soldier is kind of boring, and I've never played as a Sentinel or as an Adept. Thoughts?
You're thinking right. I've done it with an Infiltrator. The ability to cloak and take things out from distance with the sniper rifle and made it relatively easy. I have another playthrough going with an adept and it's much more difficult. I would not suggest a Vanguard. It's my favorite class too, but you don't want to get up close to insanity enemies.
 
Has anyone attempted an Insanity playthrough on ME2 or ME3? Thinking about doing this, but wondering what the best class would be. Vanguard has been the most fun, by far, but I'm thinking it would also be the most difficult class to use on Insanity. I'm leaning toward Infiltrator or Engineer. Soldier is kind of boring, and I've never played as a Sentinel or as an Adept. Thoughts?
You're thinking right. I've done it with an Infiltrator. The ability to cloak and take things out from distance with the sniper rifle and made it relatively easy. I have another playthrough going with an adept and it's much more difficult. I would not suggest a Vanguard. It's my favorite class too, but you don't want to get up close to insanity enemies.
The key with insanity is level 60. Once I got that, it didn't really matter the class. I beat it on insanity as Vanguard on my 2nd playthrough mainly cause I got to level 60 pretty early into the 2nd run. Was a lot of fun biotic charging the hell out of banshees on insanity though. Last sequence was nuts. I just booked it to the controls once the call came in and healed my self like 4 times on the way there.
 
Has anyone attempted an Insanity playthrough on ME2 or ME3? Thinking about doing this, but wondering what the best class would be. Vanguard has been the most fun, by far, but I'm thinking it would also be the most difficult class to use on Insanity. I'm leaning toward Infiltrator or Engineer. Soldier is kind of boring, and I've never played as a Sentinel or as an Adept. Thoughts?
You're thinking right. I've done it with an Infiltrator. The ability to cloak and take things out from distance with the sniper rifle and made it relatively easy. I have another playthrough going with an adept and it's much more difficult. I would not suggest a Vanguard. It's my favorite class too, but you don't want to get up close to insanity enemies.
The key with insanity is level 60. Once I got that, it didn't really matter the class. I beat it on insanity as Vanguard on my 2nd playthrough mainly cause I got to level 60 pretty early into the 2nd run. Was a lot of fun biotic charging the hell out of banshees on insanity though. Last sequence was nuts. I just booked it to the controls once the call came in and healed my self like 4 times on the way there.
In ME3, Insanity is pretty easy assuming you're continuing a character that's aready leveled up a lot. ME2 was a lot harder, partly due to the level cap, but mainly due to every single enemy having either armor or shields or a barrier. Husks were a PITA in ME2.
 
Has anyone attempted an Insanity playthrough on ME2 or ME3? Thinking about doing this, but wondering what the best class would be. Vanguard has been the most fun, by far, but I'm thinking it would also be the most difficult class to use on Insanity. I'm leaning toward Infiltrator or Engineer. Soldier is kind of boring, and I've never played as a Sentinel or as an Adept. Thoughts?
Soldier was the easiest for ME2, IMO. In ME3, I didn't have much problem using an Infiltrator - the cloaking is basically a get out of jail free card. I'm about 2/3rd of the way through with an Engineer run and its much more challenging. Agree on Vanguard; haven't played through as an adept yet.
Good information here. Thanks very much for the feedback! I assume that Infiltrator must also be a pretty solid choice for ME2, right?
Never played infiltrator in ME2 but I think the cloak was new to 3. Not sure about that though.
 
Extended Cut DLC available next Tuesday.

Mass Effect 3's Extended Cut DLC, which adds exposition to the game's highly controversial ending through a series of epilogues and cinematic sequences, will arrive on Xbox 360, PS3 and PC this Tuesday, June 26. For European Shepards, the free update will be available on the PS3 on July 4.

The Extended Cut isn't a new ending for the game so much as it is a Director's Cut of sorts, which doesn't "fundamentally change the endings, but rather it expands on the meaning of the original endings, and reveals greater detail on the impact of player decisions," according to the BioWare Blog. Peep the video above for BioWare's potentially spoilersy discussion of the add-on with executive producer Casey Hudson and lead writer Mac Walters.
 
'Andy Dufresne said:
Extended Cut DLC available next Tuesday.

Mass Effect 3's Extended Cut DLC, which adds exposition to the game's highly controversial ending through a series of epilogues and cinematic sequences, will arrive on Xbox 360, PS3 and PC this Tuesday, June 26. For European Shepards, the free update will be available on the PS3 on July 4.

The Extended Cut isn't a new ending for the game so much as it is a Director's Cut of sorts, which doesn't "fundamentally change the endings, but rather it expands on the meaning of the original endings, and reveals greater detail on the impact of player decisions," according to the BioWare Blog. Peep the video above for BioWare's potentially spoilersy discussion of the add-on with executive producer Casey Hudson and lead writer Mac Walters.
I'm not getting my hopes up.
 
'Andy Dufresne said:
Extended Cut DLC available next Tuesday.

Mass Effect 3's Extended Cut DLC, which adds exposition to the game's highly controversial ending through a series of epilogues and cinematic sequences, will arrive on Xbox 360, PS3 and PC this Tuesday, June 26. For European Shepards, the free update will be available on the PS3 on July 4.

The Extended Cut isn't a new ending for the game so much as it is a Director's Cut of sorts, which doesn't "fundamentally change the endings, but rather it expands on the meaning of the original endings, and reveals greater detail on the impact of player decisions," according to the BioWare Blog. Peep the video above for BioWare's potentially spoilersy discussion of the add-on with executive producer Casey Hudson and lead writer Mac Walters.
Well this is out of the blue. Guess they're aren't that proud of it if they announce on a friday that its coming tuesday. No fanfare or hype. Just here it is, now leave us alone and play our damn multiplayer. Sigh, I also am not getting my hopes up.

 
The new endings are pretty excellent IMO. I just YouTubed them.

I'm waiting for my download to finish. It's 1.8 gig.

 
Can't wait to DL this. I want to play through ME2 and 3 again. But need to finish Deus Ex HUman Revolution first.

 
Sorry, but Joker running is just dumb. Everyone else was cool with the rainbow explosion. Why run? Extended cut - F U gamers, I will do what I want. Signed, Casey Hudson.

 
'Borat said:
'IvanKaramazov said:
I heard they put the nail in the coffin of Indoctrination Theory. That kind of sucks.
I think they also took away the need for the Indoctrination Theory...
Thats what I'm getting so far. Havent looked at anything all day. Did the no action ending. I liked it. Just wish they would have done it the first time because it would have been epic. Going back now to do the others.
 
Sorry, but Joker running is just dumb. Everyone else was cool with the rainbow explosion. Why run? Extended cut - F U gamers, I will do what I want. Signed, Casey Hudson.
At least they half assed explained how joker got your team.
Him flying directly into battle to pick up your squad was a little weird now and still kind of dumb that harbinger lets them go but meh. I wouldn't have thought twice about it had they done it 3 months ago. Now it feels forced.
 
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Ha! I sat through another 30 mins of the ending to get to the decision.

Then I shot at the catalyst and it gave me the no decision ending again. Bastards. Now I have to sit through another 30 mins to get to that again. Bastards. Plus the voice of the catalyst when he says so be it sounds like Harbinger. Creepy as hell.
 
Well i looked at all 4 endings now and all I can say is, was that so hard? Despite them saying they werent changing the endings, they definitely made needed changes to it. Each ending feels unique now. Despite control and synthesis still not making much sense they at least fleshed out their bizarre idea for it now. if they had shippedthis ending, mass effect 3 would have been lauded as the best game ever made. Thats not saying this ending was great, its just that it doesnt have the loopholes or unanswered questions the first ending did. People would have been much more satisfied with this one. So with that i think Im done with mass effect. Cant imagine playing a ME game without Shepard.

 
Joystiq said this yesterday:

While BioWare said that loading a save file that places Commander Shepard roughly two missions before the actual ending of Mass Effect 3 is necessary to experience the Extended Cut downloadable content, players can view the new ending of the game even more quickly.To cut out the middleman (and potentially any fresh content included in the missions prior to the end of the game), players who have completed the game can load up an auto-save that zips Shepard to the end of the game, labeled (spoilers!) "Citadel: The Return." Again, while you might miss added scenes during the final missions in the game, you'll go straight to all the explanatory stuff at the end.It's worth noting that we performed this act of trickery on Xbox 360, so we can't confirm that this works on PS3 or PC just yet.
And in a post that's sure to get some folks' dander up:
With the launch of Mass Effect 3's Extended Cut DLC today, you may think BioWare is ready to wash its hands of the series and move onto something new. Producer Mike Gamble hit Twitter today to tease future DLC for Mass Effect 3, something BioWare is apparently working on right now."Would now be a good time to talk about how we're doing more DLC in the future?" his first tweet teased earlier today. "That was a trick question. We'll save the future DLC for future chats. Don't worry though...there's much more," he responded later in the day. Gamble wouldn't go into specifics about when we'd hear about future Mass Effect 3 content – but we'll be in the captain's cabin, playing with our model ships while we wait.
 
'Leeroy Jenkins said:
'IvanKaramazov said:
I heard they put the nail in the coffin of Indoctrination Theory. That kind of sucks.
Because it never made sense.
Disagree GB. Sounds like they cleaned up the ending but IT would have been an epic, classic Bioware twist. I'm hoping to get around to checking it out this weekend. Positive reviews from Insein make me cautiously optimistic.
 
Joystiq said this yesterday:

While BioWare said that loading a save file that places Commander Shepard roughly two missions before the actual ending of Mass Effect 3 is necessary to experience the Extended Cut downloadable content, players can view the new ending of the game even more quickly.To cut out the middleman (and potentially any fresh content included in the missions prior to the end of the game), players who have completed the game can load up an auto-save that zips Shepard to the end of the game, labeled (spoilers!) "Citadel: The Return." Again, while you might miss added scenes during the final missions in the game, you'll go straight to all the explanatory stuff at the end.It's worth noting that we performed this act of trickery on Xbox 360, so we can't confirm that this works on PS3 or PC just yet.
And in a post that's sure to get some folks' dander up:
With the launch of Mass Effect 3's Extended Cut DLC today, you may think BioWare is ready to wash its hands of the series and move onto something new. Producer Mike Gamble hit Twitter today to tease future DLC for Mass Effect 3, something BioWare is apparently working on right now."Would now be a good time to talk about how we're doing more DLC in the future?" his first tweet teased earlier today. "That was a trick question. We'll save the future DLC for future chats. Don't worry though...there's much more," he responded later in the day. Gamble wouldn't go into specifics about when we'd hear about future Mass Effect 3 content – but we'll be in the captain's cabin, playing with our model ships while we wait.
What if I don't have a save from wherever they are talking about? I Can't recall when I saved anything.
 
If you have a save in the final mission close to the end, thats sufficient. There might be more cotnent earlier but the ending sequence starts at the push to the beam. Big change in that scene.

 
If you have a save in the final mission close to the end, thats sufficient. There might be more cotnent earlier but the ending sequence starts at the push to the beam. Big change in that scene.
Does Marauder Shields get a bigger role?
 
So was waiting for the new ending to finish and my place got broken into and my xbox stolen in the meantime. :rant:

So I have no saved games from ME1, ME2 or my almost done ME3 game plus I'm sure my "battle readiness" is back down to zero. Is the new and improved ending even worth attempting to play back thru? Guess I could just start up ME3 and see some of the differences between my 1st game with me being uber good and having everyone alive vs a non-imported game.

Guess all my future saved games will be on the Cloud going forward... :kicksrock:

 
So was waiting for the new ending to finish and my place got broken into and my xbox stolen in the meantime. :rant: So I have no saved games from ME1, ME2 or my almost done ME3 game plus I'm sure my "battle readiness" is back down to zero. Is the new and improved ending even worth attempting to play back thru? Guess I could just start up ME3 and see some of the differences between my 1st game with me being uber good and having everyone alive vs a non-imported game.Guess all my future saved games will be on the Cloud going forward... :kicksrock:
Or maybe you could just youtube the new endings.
 
So was waiting for the new ending to finish and my place got broken into and my xbox stolen in the meantime. :rant: So I have no saved games from ME1, ME2 or my almost done ME3 game plus I'm sure my "battle readiness" is back down to zero. Is the new and improved ending even worth attempting to play back thru? Guess I could just start up ME3 and see some of the differences between my 1st game with me being uber good and having everyone alive vs a non-imported game.Guess all my future saved games will be on the Cloud going forward... :kicksrock:
Or maybe you could just youtube the new endings.
Endings yes... but I didn't play any of the final missions either. Stopped after Sanctuary.
 
So was waiting for the new ending to finish and my place got broken into and my xbox stolen in the meantime. :rant: So I have no saved games from ME1, ME2 or my almost done ME3 game plus I'm sure my "battle readiness" is back down to zero. Is the new and improved ending even worth attempting to play back thru? Guess I could just start up ME3 and see some of the differences between my 1st game with me being uber good and having everyone alive vs a non-imported game.Guess all my future saved games will be on the Cloud going forward... :kicksrock:
Or maybe you could just youtube the new endings.
Endings yes... but I didn't play any of the final missions either. Stopped after Sanctuary.
Oh. Well then that sucks.
 
If you have a save in the final mission close to the end, thats sufficient. There might be more cotnent earlier but the ending sequence starts at the push to the beam. Big change in that scene.
Does Marauder Shields get a bigger role?
No same role for him. Just they fixed the obvious stuff.
Joker arrives in the Normandy to save your ground crew. You get a nice send off scene if you have a love interest in that group. You have to suspend belief a bit as the Normandy is right in the path of Harbinger and he doesn't fire on the hovering ship at all even though it sits there for a full minute or 2. Hackett comments on reports that someone made it to the Citadel clearing up the ambiguous radio call to Shepard randomly. Hackett also orders a retreat once the crucible is triggered. Joker is seen being forced to abandon the mission and fall back. The Mass relays are the biggest change in that they don't explode this time. They just break. Which I thought was the most needed fix.Normandy doesn't explode in space and then mysteriously crash land. It rides the wave and then apparently crash lands but is able to make repairs.
On one hand I'm happy they listened to our complaints but on the other I feel disappointed that this just wasn't in there in the first place. Like I said, there wouldn't have been a single person mad about the ending if this is what they shipped. People would have debated the meanings and decided which is best. People may have been disappointed by some of them but no one could be mad by the effort put into making each of these unique. Granted its not 16 endings but its 4 unique endings. Overall, I feel better about it and yet sad that its all over now.

 
I replayed from my lat autosave which was the Cerberus hq and Kai leng fight. I do not think I noticed any new cut scene there.

What squad mates are best story wise for earth 1 and 2. I'm think James and Javik for 1?

 
I replayed from my lat autosave which was the Cerberus hq and Kai leng fight. I do not think I noticed any new cut scene there. What squad mates are best story wise for earth 1 and 2. I'm think James and Javik for 1?
Javik is always the most interesting. I'd bring your love interest for certain scenes if you want the extra mushy stuff. If you have a LI that is. Other than that, its all pretty generic.
 
On the the actual endings meanings now, I still feel destroy is the best overall option.

Refusal is the most fun because it just spits in the Reapers eye and tells them to #### off. Sure they complete the cycle which kind of sucks but you went down fighting.

Destroy is the choice of free will. The catalyst keeps insisting that organics and synthetics will inevitably destroy one another without Reapers to keep order. I reject its logic. We will make that decision. Organics will rebuild our technology and eventually probably build AI. It will be our choice, right or wrong. We have the free will to make our own decisions for better or worse. It also is the choice that the catalyst still deters you against the most and offers the most sacrifice. The hardest road is often the right one.

Control is the choice of a benevolent dictator. Shepard adds his thoughts to the Reaper collective and now controls it. But as we hear from his monologue, he no longer thinks of himself as an individual. How long before he feels that his solution is not working and decides that maybe the catalyst's solution had some merit to it? Never trust an omniscient AI with a god complex to have your best interests in its mind.

Synthesis is the choice of foolhardy fantasy. Everyone is turned into the same species. Plants, animals, humans, krogan, turian, geth, even the reaper abominations now are the same race of beings. Hell if plants get this treatment, then why not the spaceships? Do they feel and think now too? Will we have toasters getting their feelings hurt that you jammed a piece of bread in them or even worse that the bread is sad you are burning it now that its synthetic?

Aside from that crazy leap, are we to now accept that this is the ultimate form of evolution? Why because the catalyst tells us so? There will never be war again because we all know and understand each others feelings? What idealistic, hippy bull####. The reapers just succeeded in indoctrinating everyone against their will in one swift stroke. Shepard handed the galaxy to them on a silver platter. Sure EDI is crazy hot and can feel now but that ignores the fact that not everyone would have accepted this change. Javik detested synthetic life with a fanatical hatred. All of sudden he's just fine with being synthetic? People in the galaxy would not have laid down just to get some green glowing eyes and shiny skin. Its a a ridiculous solution that I will reject everytime.
 
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On one hand I'm happy they listened to our complaints but on the other I feel disappointed that this just wasn't in there in the first place. Like I said, there wouldn't have been a single person mad about the ending if this is what they shipped. People would have debated the meanings and decided which is best. People may have been disappointed by some of them but no one could be mad by the effort put into making each of these unique. Granted its not 16 endings but its 4 unique endings.

Overall, I feel better about it and yet sad that its all over now.
I waited until I finished my third playthrough to check out the extended cut, and I agree with this sentiment. Viewing the full "intended" ending makes the original look even more ridiculous. IT theory would have been an epic twist, but I can live with this one and they definitely do a better job of giving you closure. Also 100% agree with your take on each of the new endings.Also, for posterity, if anyone reading this thread is still trying to figure out which love interest to go with, choose Liara - it's the only half decently written one in ME3 and has a fair amount of unique dialog.

 
I have become completed addicted to ME3 multiplayer. If you enjoy the combat system in ME3, I highly, highly recommend giving this a fair chance.

 
Suprised I didn't post this earlier, but I beat this about three weeks ago as a full on renegade soldier. Great game - bad ending.

Wish I knew that some Of the missions were time sensitive though. I missed the acadamy because I ran off to do a main plot adventure. The cool thing was I ended up killing jack who appeared as a regular biotic enemy later On I. The game as a result.

 

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