Sounds like Philbin is calling the shots here. Would love some CK input on this offense, look what they did with Foles, would be a terrific hire.Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 7m
Eagles QB coach Bill Lazor is in Miami today interviewing for the Dolphins OC job, per a league source.
ooof560 WQAM reporting that Gary Kubiak will be interviewed for the OC job.
I'm not sure you want this guy. I've watched him for 4 years. While he can put together a decent game plan a fair amount of the time, he's prone to panic and abandon it so quickly that the players complained about it. He's known for bailing on a run game even when it's working and calling mostly pass plays when his team's behind. And he's pretty rigid and condescending with players.Chris MortensenVerified account @mortreport
Kyle Shanahan also among short list of OC candidates for Dolphins, per league sources.
God I hope not Fatty cuase he sounds like the guy we just showed the door.I'm not sure you want this guy. I've watched him for 4 years. While he can put together a decent game plan a fair amount of the time, he's prone to panic and abandon it so quickly that the players complained about it. He's known for bailing on a run game even when it's working and calling mostly pass plays when his team's behind. And he's pretty rigid and condescending with players.Chris MortensenVerified account @mortreport
Kyle Shanahan also among short list of OC candidates for Dolphins, per league sources.
But without his Dad there protecting him he may adjust and change, so there's that.
I mean getting her hired by the league offices in NY, that is supposedly where she really wants to be. It gets her out of Miami.I'm waiting for the punchline here Swamp. Are you serious? Read what Slap posted about her backstabbing in the above posts, the course of action here is a large grass roots movement through radio and also some in person visits to Dolphinsville over in Davie and let them know this is not what we are wanting.Phins fans need to start hammering the NFL offices with letters about the league offices needing diversity and to set an example so that they hire Aponte.
Going form Ireland to Aponte will actually be a step down and I never thought Ross was capable of doing that but he certainly is showing he has some idiot levels we didn't even think possible. Ross makes Huzeinga look like the Rooneys in Pittsburgh.
This makes me shake my head and wonder how these guys were able to be successful enough in another business to be able to afford to buy a football team. And it's not just Ross as there are plenty of other disfunctional franchises out there that have the similar issues.From Rotoworld. Lovely...
"Multiple NFL sources" tell the National Football Post's Jason Cole they would "advise anyone close to them" not to accept the Dolphins' general manager job.
Per Cole, the sources believe the Dolphins' power structure is "set up to fail." That's certainly hard to argue. Owner Stephen Ross has been coy on whom will have final say in his new front office, while pigeonholing a new general manager with an existing head coach almost never works. The Dolphins' owner since 2008, Ross has thus far proven incapable of getting his power structure right.
What a dumpster fire....From Rotoworld. Lovely...
"Multiple NFL sources" tell the National Football Post's Jason Cole they would "advise anyone close to them" not to accept the Dolphins' general manager job.
Per Cole, the sources believe the Dolphins' power structure is "set up to fail." That's certainly hard to argue. Owner Stephen Ross has been coy on whom will have final say in his new front office, while pigeonholing a new general manager with an existing head coach almost never works. The Dolphins' owner since 2008, Ross has thus far proven incapable of getting his power structure right.
The Dolphins GM job, as it appears right now, is a poor fit for all but the most desperate of people. If you're talented, if you're in line to get a GM job at some time in the future, you shouldn't take the Dolphins job because it'll probably just end up a black mark on your resume you'll have to explain later. Wait for a better situation where your success is dependent on you and your skills and not a faulty organizational structure. The Dolphins have to earn their way out of this bumbling reputation they're earned over the last several years, unfortunately. Maybe it makes sense for an up-and-coming GM to interview for the position, to show that they're talented enough to be considered but if it were my friend, I'd tell them they'd probably be better off waiting for the right opportunity too.This one is disturbing in my opinion. If I am while, black, red, yellow, or orange and I get an opportunity to interview for a position that is considered a promotion from my current position, I at least consider that opportunity. Who is this guy to advise people not to consider the job...simply because they are a minority? If you are a minority are you somehow too good to consider this job?
"Our guys dont need to be going in and taking those interviews." Seriously? Out of hand. Makes no sense at all.
Slapdash said:What a dumpster fire....ChuckLiddell said:From Rotoworld. Lovely...
"Multiple NFL sources" tell the National Football Post's Jason Cole they would "advise anyone close to them" not to accept the Dolphins' general manager job.
Per Cole, the sources believe the Dolphins' power structure is "set up to fail." That's certainly hard to argue. Owner Stephen Ross has been coy on whom will have final say in his new front office, while pigeonholing a new general manager with an existing head coach almost never works. The Dolphins' owner since 2008, Ross has thus far proven incapable of getting his power structure right.
Wish you were wrong. You are not though.And the search for the GM continues...
If you read reports out there, miami is interviewing something like 8-10 candidates. To an outside observer or someone who watches football lightly, this might seem like a sound decision but it shows me several things.
1. Miami has no idea what they want or desire. Even if they know, it shows that their ideas or way of doing things might not play well with potential candidates which leads me to #2.
2. Even the folks who want to advance in the NFL are going back to their current teams of employment and shaking their heads or laughing at us. It's gotten to a point where teams are telling other teams not to waste their time interviewing for Miami. Slap said something about a dumpster fire…it's spreading to the main house at this point.
3. Owner Stephen Ross is a complete buffoon and has little to no idea what his concept or vision is. Ross has no vision so therefore no one else can envision what he truly wants.
-Dawn Aponte has way too much influence, she is doing a large part of the interviewing along with Carl Peterson(Does he have an official title with the Dolphins org?) and i think that is sending the wrong message to potential hires. This is a total mess and to be frank with all of you as I have at points during the season, this is weighing to the point I don't feel like I belong with the Miami Dolphins much longer.
I'm not going to continue to support this team despite being born here, raised here, own a home here, it's not part of any contract that I can find that I MUST support the local team, in fact many do not here. Why should I pour my hard earned dollars into this mess when the owner is one of the 5 worst IMO and it's not because he won't spend money but that he is a total IDIOT when it comes to making football decisions, he has no clue what he is doing and neither do the inept MoFos around this #####. I'm sick of Ross and what he thinks the public down here will support. He has been more concerned with getting minority owners to buy little pieces of the company, more concerned with the nightclub in the end zone, and not concerned about the product on the field which in the end takes care of these other problems he is so caught up with.
I'm on the fence but this hiring process is not pointing to a new day or start but more of a funeral or the whole thing getting even worse. I never thought we would downgrade from Jeff Ireland but that possibility is there and it is starting to look more and more likely. You Phinsfans tell me where I'm wrong, tell me where I have been wrong at all over the past several years tearing the front office a new one even in the off season when so many fans are able to feel hope about the future. I don't feel that way right now about Miami.
Thanks for reading me ##### about things.
So much good posting by you and MOP (who have atleast been to Miami unlike me), but this is great. I keep wanting to buy a Dolphins jersey because all I've bought is Thomas and Ginn in the last 10 years. Problem is that the Ginn experience has left me too scared to buy another jersey for someone who will just be off the team in a few years. And I actually love the new aqua jerseys. That and the general disconnect you outlined beautifully following Bullygate. The damn Bengals win just pulled me back in.I've moved from Florida since then, but remained a loyal, die hard fan, catching at least one game live every year, and spending way too much money of jerseys and team merchandise, including signed/framed Ronnie Brown and Chris Chambers jerseys...what a waste of money. Any Dolphins jersey that doesn't say Taylor or Thomas on the back for the last 15 years was a waste of money. That Brandon Marshall jersey that I raced out to get...great move.
I hear ya, i splurged on an authentic Marshall jersey about two months before he got traded. I was about to pull the trigger on a Hartline jersey before the second Bills game (was about 150 bucks for the jersey and shipping to Toronto) so I'd have something to wear for the playoffs which I assumed were a foregone conclusionSo much good posting by you and MOP (who have atleast been to Miami unlike me), but this is great. I keep wanting to buy a Dolphins jersey because all I've bought is Thomas and Ginn in the last 10 years. Problem is that the Ginn experience has left me too scared to buy another jersey for someone who will just be off the team in a few years. And I actually love the new aqua jerseys. That and the general disconnect you outlined beautifully following Bullygate. The damn Bengals win just pulled me back in.I've moved from Florida since then, but remained a loyal, die hard fan, catching at least one game live every year, and spending way too much money of jerseys and team merchandise, including signed/framed Ronnie Brown and Chris Chambers jerseys...what a waste of money. Any Dolphins jersey that doesn't say Taylor or Thomas on the back for the last 15 years was a waste of money. That Brandon Marshall jersey that I raced out to get...great move.
The Dolphins interviewed Green Bay quarterbacks coach Ben McAdoo for their vacant offensive coordinator position on Tuesday. But apparently he wasn't impressed. McAdoo reportedly accepted the same job with the New York Giants on Tuesday evening.
That could be a big setback for the Dolphins, who, for the time, appear to be a team that's being avoided.
McAdoo, who was on the Green Bay staff with Dolphins head coach Joe Philbin for six years, was the third offensive coordinator candidate the Dolphins have interviewed. But it's possible only one remains in the running. Another candidate, Philadelphia quarterbacks coach Ben Lazor, will accept the offensive coordinator job with Detroit, according to ESPN.
That might mean former Washington offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, who has also interviewed for the Dolphins' offensive coordinator job, now becomes the leader by default.
Ouch indeed. How can they hire this guy? Go find a college OC or something.ouch
The Dolphins interviewed Green Bay quarterbacks coach Ben McAdoo for their vacant offensive coordinator position on Tuesday. But apparently he wasn't impressed. McAdoo reportedly accepted the same job with the New York Giants on Tuesday evening.
That could be a big setback for the Dolphins, who, for the time, appear to be a team that's being avoided.
McAdoo, who was on the Green Bay staff with Dolphins head coach Joe Philbin for six years, was the third offensive coordinator candidate the Dolphins have interviewed. But it's possible only one remains in the running. Another candidate, Philadelphia quarterbacks coach Ben Lazor, will accept the offensive coordinator job with Detroit, according to ESPN.
That might mean former Washington offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, who has also interviewed for the Dolphins' offensive coordinator job, now becomes the leader by default.
2. Even the folks who want to advance in the NFL are going back to their current teams of employment and shaking their heads or laughing at us. It's gotten to a point where teams are telling other teams not to waste their time interviewing for Miami. Slap said something about a dumpster fire…it's spreading to the main house at this point.
ouch
The Dolphins interviewed Green Bay quarterbacks coach Ben McAdoo for their vacant offensive coordinator position on Tuesday. But apparently he wasn't impressed. McAdoo reportedly accepted the same job with the New York Giants on Tuesday evening.
That could be a big setback for the Dolphins, who, for the time, appear to be a team that's being avoided.
McAdoo, who was on the Green Bay staff with Dolphins head coach Joe Philbin for six years, was the third offensive coordinator candidate the Dolphins have interviewed. But it's possible only one remains in the running. Another candidate, Philadelphia quarterbacks coach Ben Lazor, will accept the offensive coordinator job with Detroit, according to ESPN.
That might mean former Washington offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, who has also interviewed for the Dolphins' offensive coordinator job, now becomes the leader by default.
Ah, but you miss the brilliance of Miami's leadership structure. See, the coach nor the VP of football opperations reports to the GM. So they are free to go after an OC since the GM really has nothing to do with that decision.I really don't understand how they can have/keep a HC in place, then be interviewing for coordinators, while they're still interviewing for the GM position. That's at least as badly-run as the Redskins front office has been in the past.
We didn't agree on much in the Bullygate thread, but we have found common ground in this one. I live in DC so I am exposed to all of the negativity surrounding the Redskins. Having endured what I have endured as a Dolphins fan, I would trade it in a heartbeat for being a Redskins fan. Even right now, with the Skins in the sad state that they are in, if I could in good conscience just change allegiances overnight, I would. Being a Skins fan for the past 40 years would have been a joy in comparison, and my guess is that the next 10 will as well.I really don't understand how they can have/keep a HC in place, then be interviewing for coordinators, while they're still interviewing for the GM position. That's at least as badly-run as the Redskins front office has been in the past.
Sounds like Philbin is calling the shots here. Would love some CK input on this offense, look what they did with Foles, would be a terrific hire.Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 7m
Eagles QB coach Bill Lazor is in Miami today interviewing for the Dolphins OC job, per a league source.
That was over a week ago they interviewed him, what took so long? I like the team he is coming from, hope he can work with THill.Just saw that we are hiring Bill Lazor (Eagles QB coach) as our OC. Did a fine job with Foles. Unfortunately for him, his career is likely about to go over a cliff.
Probably trying to get a better job or more money out of DET.Sounds like Philbin is calling the shots here. Would love some CK input on this offense, look what they did with Foles, would be a terrific hire.Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 7m
Eagles QB coach Bill Lazor is in Miami today interviewing for the Dolphins OC job, per a league source.That was over a week ago they interviewed him, what took so long? I like the team he is coming from, hope he can work with THill.Just saw that we are hiring Bill Lazor (Eagles QB coach) as our OC. Did a fine job with Foles. Unfortunately for him, his career is likely about to go over a cliff.
Not so sure it was bad to pass on McAdoo. As Packer fans, we've lost plenty of our assistant coaches to promotions on other teams over the years. The people that report on the team that I trust the most weren't all that high on him.What does that say about Philbin that one of his co-workers won't work for him? Even for a promotion and raise? Yikes.
Slapdash said:Ah, but you miss the brilliance of Miami's leadership structure. See, the coach nor the VP of football opperations reports to the GM. So they are free to go after an OC since the GM really has nothing to do with that decision.fatness said:I really don't understand how they can have/keep a HC in place, then be interviewing for coordinators, while they're still interviewing for the GM position. That's at least as badly-run as the Redskins front office has been in the past.
Four days ago the Dolphins asked and received permission to interview Philadelphia Eagles vice president of player personnel Tom Gamble. No interview was set, however.
And no interview is going to happen -- barring a stunning turn of events.
Gamble, considered among the league's best personnel men, has decided he won't interview for the Dolphins job because he is happy in his current role with the Eagles, isn't thrilled about the structure Dolphins owner Stephen Ross has outlined for his football operations, and is confident other opportunities will come along in the future.
Multiple sources familiar with Gamble's thinking say he wants the opportunity to be a general manager but wants the job when he has full power and authority over the roster and has the ability to make a decision over the head coach and other people in the organization.
The Dolphins GM will not have the power to decide the fate of head coach Joe Philbin or others within the organization. The GM, coach and others will report directly to Ross and not each other.
Gamble was apparently puzzled why the Dolphins were already searching for an offensive coordinator with no input from the GM. It should be noted the fallout between former GM Jeff Ireland and head coach Joe Philbin had its genesis in Ireland's distaste for offensive coordinator Mike Sherman's work.
This seems like a serious "half empty" perspective to me. In fact, I'm quite pleased with the hire. I preferred him to McAdoo from the outset of this (admittedly) cluster #### of a process.Ministry of Pain said:It's worth noting that he was not the top candidate. We lost out on McAdoo from GB and I believe one or two others so again Miami is getting the table scraps that others don't want.
I'm not a big fan of the OC who has never called plays route, but like this hire much more than Shanahan or McAdoo.This seems like a serious "half empty" perspective to me. In fact, I'm quite pleased with the hire. I preferred him to McAdoo from the outset of this (admittedly) cluster #### of a process.Ministry of Pain said:It's worth noting that he was not the top candidate. We lost out on McAdoo from GB and I believe one or two others so again Miami is getting the table scraps that others don't want.
This was obviously the case. Philbin and his staff told Ross they wanted him. I don't know if Ireland had the power to keep them from getting their toy, but at least it didn't cost much to move up.Apparently, Jordan now does not fit our 4-3 defensive scheme...the same scheme we were clearly going to run when we drafted him.
Dont let the door hit you in the derrière. If it does, it will hit him larder then our LBs hit anyone this year. Our Linebackers were a huge weakness for us this season. Shocking that someone wanted to hire our LB coach. Must have been a prior relationship there. No way it was on merit from 2013.Lauren Tannehill left behind an AR-15 Assault Rifle that she and husband Ryan legally own, she left it in the back of a rental car. Not really much news in terms of football but I thought it was interesting.
Also we lost our LB coach to Minnesota where he will be the DC, can't blame him for wanting a promotion.
Yeah, addition by subtraction here.Dont let the door hit you in the derrière. If it does, it will hit him larder then our LBs hit anyone this year. Our Linebackers were a huge weakness for us this season. Shocking that someone wanted to hire our LB coach. Must have been a prior relationship there. No way it was on merit from 2013.Lauren Tannehill left behind an AR-15 Assault Rifle that she and husband Ryan legally own, she left it in the back of a rental car. Not really much news in terms of football but I thought it was interesting.
Also we lost our LB coach to Minnesota where he will be the DC, can't blame him for wanting a promotion.
That's what we thought about Ireland, so far it's not looking that good.Yeah, addition by subtraction here.Dont let the door hit you in the derrière. If it does, it will hit him larder then our LBs hit anyone this year. Our Linebackers were a huge weakness for us this season. Shocking that someone wanted to hire our LB coach. Must have been a prior relationship there. No way it was on merit from 2013.Lauren Tannehill left behind an AR-15 Assault Rifle that she and husband Ryan legally own, she left it in the back of a rental car. Not really much news in terms of football but I thought it was interesting.
Also we lost our LB coach to Minnesota where he will be the DC, can't blame him for wanting a promotion.
A source informed the Miami Herald that Dolphins players don't have "great respect for the coaching staff there."
"Criticism of the coaches is consistent with everyone I talk to on the team," said the source. "You have some assistants who weren’t experienced or comfortable in their jobs. Some players said they didn’t learn much. It’s pretty disconcerting. There’s not a lot of great teaching there." This mostly has to do with position coaches and coordinators, but even head coach Joe Philbin is taking some heat from inside the locker room. He's been described as "flat" and "unemotional," while another said Philbin's just a guy who's "on top of scheduling and planning." Philbin's seat will be one of the hotter ones in 2014, especially with a new GM coming to town. The only reason he survived this offseason is because owner Stephen Ross thinks so highly of him.
Source: Miami Herald
My gawd there are way too many people that have no business coaching and making decision at the NFL level.This team is an abortion. Pure bird cage fodder at this point.
I swear to god if they trade Jordan........I think I will adopt a new team. A completely out of control and clueless football team with not a clue of direction, focus or vision.
I pray this is not true as I think Jordan can be a massive beast for 10 years. But he does not fit the scheme? WTF are you drafting a guy at #3 overall if he does not fit your scheme? WTF is going on? Seriously......WTF is going on in Davie.
Ross is a baffoon.....being led by monkeys.