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***Official*** Miami Dolphins 2014 Off/In Season (1 Viewer)

Took a leave of absence from this thread during Richie-world. Lived it every day here in Miami and didn't want to talk about it here.

I am willing to give coach one more year and like the Lazor hiring.

Very happy with the draft so far. Let's see what Tanne can do in year 3

 
I'm a big fan of the first three picks, the linemen should start and Landry will be involved.

Not sure about the rest. At least they picked up positions that could use an impact player (LB, CB, and TE). A lot of small college guys who should be eager to prove themselves on special teams, perhaps.

 
More full thoughts I posted elsewhere:

I think Kiper and others have fairly rated this draft as a B. James was a reach but he was higher on my (and Miami's board) than most. The only tackle in the draft that I feel can comfortably slot in as a RT day 1.

Landry pick is a home-run in my book. Miami has a lot of expensive, injury-prone WRs. Landry would be a first rounder if not for an underwhelming combine. Great hands and clearly looks the part in game tape against elite competition

Turner is a project as a guard but another good pick. An awful lot of small-school project players so it will be interesting to see how they develop.

Lynch out of UGA is interesting at TE. More of a blocker but there are snaps to be had along with Clay. Can carve out a role if he shows up in preseason.

Theme of the draft seems to be high character type of players over raw talent. A lot of former captains and Senior Bowl attendees. Given the terrible Ireland drafts, that is promising. However, Philbin has not done a good job developing players so these projects may be another coach's if the team fails to make the playoffs. Also a key year for Tannehill given the heavy investment in protecting and getting him more weapons.

 
Slapdash said:
More full thoughts I posted elsewhere:

I think Kiper and others have fairly rated this draft as a B. James was a reach but he was higher on my (and Miami's board) than most. The only tackle in the draft that I feel can comfortably slot in as a RT day 1.

Landry pick is a home-run in my book. Miami has a lot of expensive, injury-prone WRs. Landry would be a first rounder if not for an underwhelming combine. Great hands and clearly looks the part in game tape against elite competition

Turner is a project as a guard but another good pick. An awful lot of small-school project players so it will be interesting to see how they develop.

Lynch out of UGA is interesting at TE. More of a blocker but there are snaps to be had along with Clay. Can carve out a role if he shows up in preseason.

Theme of the draft seems to be high character type of players over raw talent. A lot of former captains and Senior Bowl attendees. Given the terrible Ireland drafts, that is promising. However, Philbin has not done a good job developing players so these projects may be another coach's if the team fails to make the playoffs. Also a key year for Tannehill given the heavy investment in protecting and getting him more weapons.
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Good point about the high character, team captains part, a healthy reaction to the leadership void last year.

James and Turner were both four year starters and team captains.

Landry another team captain, and was MVP on a team with a first rounder (OBJ), another second rounder (Hill) and a sixth rounder with arguably second round talent (Mettenberger), the first in SEC history to have a 3,000 yard passer, a 1,000 yard runner and TWO 1,000 yard receivers. He was a five star recruit, maybe one of the top 3-5 WRs in the nation (MVP of the Under Armour All Star game). Waldman pointed out during the draft coverage, and I agree, Landry and Richardson (SEA) may have had more highlight reel catches than any other WR in the draft.

 
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I love the Landry pick big time. Hartline is all but a goner next season (unless he takes a massive paycut) and Gibson is coming off a serious knee injury. James is a day one starter at RT and might be our future LT when Albert ages in a few years.

Landry had a poor combine....but his game tape speaks volumes to me. Looks the part big time.

 
Todem said:
I love the Landry pick big time. Hartline is all but a goner next season (unless he takes a massive paycut) and Gibson is coming off a serious knee injury. James is a day one starter at RT and might be our future LT when Albert ages in a few years.

Landry had a poor combine....but his game tape speaks volumes to me. Looks the part big time.
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Why are you writing off Hartline so easily? He has back to back 1000 yard seasons, and has been our most reliable WR for the past 2 years. He and Tannehill have excellent chemistry, he seems like a good locker room guy, well liked by the community, and he performs pretty much to his contract. At least close. Couple more TD would be nice, but maybe a new offense and a new OL will aid in that. Does he have some sort of escalator in his contract that kicks in next year? Why are you so certain he is gone. Hope he isn't.

 
No mention of losing Pouncey? That seems to be the cruelest blow to their extensive efforts to re-build the OL. The OL, in one form or another, was the root of virtually all their troubles last year. With Pouncey and all the acquisitions, there was hope for building a viable, evolving offense. Hope for time to pass and lanes to run through. Losing a solid, decent center, perhaps as important for continuity as anything, while all the people around him are new and learning each other and the system, is a killer. Not much chance the OL gels until he gets back and for a while thereafter, since Pouncey has never even lined up with most of these other guys. I look for a rough first half, although I am pretty optimistic about how they'll do if they can survive that beginning with anything like a .500 record.

 
I'm a little surprised by there not being more talk of Lazor's potential impact on the offense.

Any impressions or word yet on what we can see?

Tannehill

Moreno

Wallace

Hartline - hard to believe he actually had a 76/1016 season last year

Landry

Clay

Anyone see particular value from a local perspective?

I've been thinking Tannehill, Wallace and Moreno (presuming he shows even late in preseason) seem like good targets to me this year.

 
Hello Finsfans, long time no speak. Got a few things to go over form the scrimmage yesterday out at JRS. Oh and BTW if you have not seen what they are going to do with the stadium over the next 2 seasons, pretty awesome. The entire lower bowl is going to be ripped out after the season and brought closer to the field, then after the 2015 season a white tarp will cover most of the stadium but not he field and folks will have shade to watch the games starting in 2016, cannot wait, that's gonna be awesome.

"Camp notes you SOB!"

-You know the OL is bas but wow ha it been putrid in camp. The Center position and interior line in particular look terrible right now but I am optimistic that the rookie from NDSt, Billy Turner is starting to get some looks with the 1st team at RG. I feel that the combo of Turner and James on the right side could have the biggest impact for Miami since the arrival of Richmond Webb and Keith Sims in the 1st and 2nd round of the 1990 draft. Those two of course would hold down the left side of the OL for the remainder of the time Marino was the starting QB.

"OK, thanks for the nostalgia history boy"

-Lamar Miller looked the part at scrimmage yesterday. He ripped off a nice TD on a Tannehill pass, if he could reel in 40-45 catches in this offense, McCoy had 52 last year in this offense as Bill Lazor is running things now and he's taking these guys kicking and screaming into the modern NFL with him. Miller looked really good with 6 carries for 36 yds, 2/27/TD thru the air. He flashed some speed.

-Tannehill was decent last night, looked the part, looked like he had good command of the offense. THill was 15/27/139/2TD

-Defense had 5 sacks despite a good effort from the OL and the offense in general looking pretty good. Miami's defense is solid and the offense can only get better facing them every day.

-Finnegan and Wilson each had an interception.

-RB Tony Nathan will be honored along with a couple others on the Walk of Fame at Miami Dolphin Stadium, Nathan was a key part of the Phins as they went to the Super Bowl in '82 and he also was big in helping Marino get going, he was fearless in pass blocking and a solid 2 way threat to run/catch. I saw Nathan working as a bailiff at the court house a couple years back, I felt kind of bad for him but I'm happy the Phins are gonna honor him.

Cheers all!

 
Good to see you here MOP!

I can't help but feeling this team is going to completely collapse this year. OL is a wreck again and Tannehill sounds like he is doing awful from everything I have read.

 
Best half of football I've seen out of this team in probably 5+ years. I heard the stadium went ballistic and it was loud as folks left the stadium, again been a long time since something like that happened.

This owner was an idiot giving away our home field advantage the last many years. 1:00 gmes are rough on fans but it's downright miserable for players especially those visiting.

Our DL is pretty sick. They went blank for a while in the 1st half but once the QB pressure arrived in the 2nd half the rout was on. The sacks and forced fumbles really shook Brady and the Patriots up. Fantastic win for the Phins, just hope they don't let up this week on the road. Buffalo swept us last year as we went 8-8...that did us in.

 
I agree, they need to come out and attack fast this Sunday and make a statement. As you said those two losses last year sunk them, they can't let it happen again. They are a better team then Buffalo but you can't let them hang around.

 
This team continues to be all over the map from what I have seen. Almost pull off the upset of the Packers only to be undone by the play they made famous then when i expect them to come back flat against the Bears they look like a serious playoff team for the day, running, passing, defense, a complete team. Now next week watch them look bad against the Jags. The jags winning this week might be the saving grace.

 
SwampDawg said:
This team continues to be all over the map from what I have seen. Almost pull off the upset of the Packers only to be undone by the play they made famous then when i expect them to come back flat against the Bears they look like a serious playoff team for the day, running, passing, defense, a complete team. Now next week watch them look bad against the Jags. The jags winning this week might be the saving grace.
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One thing is certain: Tannehill is a completely different QB when they utilize his legs.

 
Ok, now that was an impressive game where they put it all together, now the key is to keep playing that way. I'm not sure what happened with the whole team before going to London but they are all playing like their jobs and the coaches depend on it and they are responding.

 
SwampDawg said:
Ok, now that was an impressive game where they put it all together, now the key is to keep playing that way. I'm not sure what happened with the whole team before going to London but they are all playing like their jobs and the coaches depend on it and they are responding.
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Yeah, amazing turnaround. Nervous about Tannehill still, he is hot and cold.

 
Another 8-8 season that ending with a whimper. Miami extended Philbin (who needs to be fired) and hired Tannenbaum to be over Hickey?

Ross is such a terrible owner. Staking his claim for worst in the NFL.

 
While it may not seem like it to people that dont pay close attention and only see a moderately competitive team on the field with a possible arrow up...this team looks like it is still a huge mess.

Tannehill is good, but cannnot throw deep. Our highest paid player is a deep threat with an attitude problem that is only worsened by fact that his QB cant throw deep.

Our starting LBs are below average, and the depth is horrible.

Our interior D Line is either old, or no longer under contract.

Reshad Jones is very good, but the other safety spot is unclear.

Need a compliment to Lamar Miller. Or even better...a starter that he can compliment.

The OL is still a question mark, although I personally feel like they have the talent on the roster to make it work. Especially after another draft.

The defense that looked great for the first 8, looked horrible in the final 8. May need a a new DC. May have been more of a personnel issue.

Love, love, love Cam Wake...but he is getting old.

Grimes is awesome. There is nobody to put on the other side that has proven any level of competence at the NFL level.

Landry is good, but not a number 1. Wallace is very good, but his skills are wasted in our offense. This combination made Landry arguably our number 1 WR. Love him as a 2. Not so much as a 1.

The HC is average, and the front office stinks.

Thats a lot of issues, some of which will be addressed, but most of which probably cant. Not optimistic about 2015. 8-8 sounds about right again.

 
CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora passes along buzz that "some teams" think the Dolphins may still fire coach Joe Philbin and replace him with Seahawks DC Dan Quinn.
New Dolphins football czar Mike Tannenbaum was Quinn's agent before taking the job with Miami and had to pass Quinn off to a client at Priority Sports agency. The connection is there. Per La Canfora, opposing teams think there's a chance Tannenbaum will can Philbin in favor of Quinn if Quinn doesn't get a head-coaching job before the Super Bowl. We'd support this move from Miami.
 
ChuckLiddell said:
CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora passes along buzz that "some teams" think the Dolphins may still fire coach Joe Philbin and replace him with Seahawks DC Dan Quinn.
New Dolphins football czar Mike Tannenbaum was Quinn's agent before taking the job with Miami and had to pass Quinn off to a client at Priority Sports agency. The connection is there. Per La Canfora, opposing teams think there's a chance Tannenbaum will can Philbin in favor of Quinn if Quinn doesn't get a head-coaching job before the Super Bowl. We'd support this move from Miami.
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That would be awesome

 
Quinn can go wherever he wants among the teams who still have openings when the Seahawks' season ends. If there is any way the Dolphins could bring him to Florida ... they should have no other organizational goal between now and his signing. Denver and Atlanta are likely the toughest competition to overcome. Big cheers when either of them sign someone else.

 
Was fun thinking about for the couple of hours that we had, but alas...

The Miami Herald's Armando Salguero reports there is "nothing to see" in regards to a report the Dolphins could still fire coach Joe Philbin.
This comes on the heels of a passing-along of sorts from CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora, who had heard via sources that opposing teams were still not convinced Philbin's job was safe, and that new football czar Mike Tannenbaum may make a play for Seahawks DC Dan Quinn following the Super Bowl. As much as Dolphins fans may not like it, Philbin will be the team's head coach in 2015.


Source: Armando Salguero on Twitter
Jan 14 - 11:42 A

 
Random thoughts:

1) Tannehill's progress this year was encouraging. I'd like to see him throwing deep balls to someone who will actually use both hands to try and catch the ball. He definitely doesn't throw the best deep ball, but Wallace doesn't hide his flaws; he magnifies them by running poor routes, having the catch radius of a penguin, and less desire to go get the ball.

2) So let me get this straight...the HC can't coach his way out of a paper bag...and pretty much cost this team two games last year...HE'S okay, and doesn't answer to anyone but this buffoon of an owner...but the rookie GM who had one of the better draft classes of the past ten years...he now has to report to a guy who helped run the Jets into the ground? Okay. That makes sense.

3) Love me some Jarvis Landry, but he either needs to settle down on kick returns or be replaced on that duty.

4) Sooo....Miami's D utterly collapsed during the last half of the season (what did they give up to the offensive juggernauts of the Vikings and the Jets...about a thousand yards?)...but nobody wants to address the Kevin Coyle situation. Meanwhile, in the past 48 hours, Vic Fangio has become available, and the Niners and Bears are all over him. Okay.

5) See you all at 6 to 8 wins next year.

 
The Goat said:
Random thoughts:

1) Tannehill's progress this year was encouraging. I'd like to see him throwing deep balls to someone who will actually use both hands to try and catch the ball. He definitely doesn't throw the best deep ball, but Wallace doesn't hide his flaws; he magnifies them by running poor routes, having the catch radius of a penguin, and less desire to go get the ball.

2) So let me get this straight...the HC can't coach his way out of a paper bag...and pretty much cost this team two games last year...HE'S okay, and doesn't answer to anyone but this buffoon of an owner...but the rookie GM who had one of the better draft classes of the past ten years...he now has to report to a guy who helped run the Jets into the ground? Okay. That makes sense.

3) Love me some Jarvis Landry, but he either needs to settle down on kick returns or be replaced on that duty.

4) Sooo....Miami's D utterly collapsed during the last half of the season (what did they give up to the offensive juggernauts of the Vikings and the Jets...about a thousand yards?)...but nobody wants to address the Kevin Coyle situation. Meanwhile, in the past 48 hours, Vic Fangio has become available, and the Niners and Bears are all over him. Okay.

5) See you all at 6 to 8 wins next year.
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Seems like this has been the case for an eternity. 8-8 when the "D" at one point looked like one of the best in the league? It's tough to get excited these days.

 
DropKick said:
The Goat said:
Random thoughts:

1) Tannehill's progress this year was encouraging. I'd like to see him throwing deep balls to someone who will actually use both hands to try and catch the ball. He definitely doesn't throw the best deep ball, but Wallace doesn't hide his flaws; he magnifies them by running poor routes, having the catch radius of a penguin, and less desire to go get the ball.

2) So let me get this straight...the HC can't coach his way out of a paper bag...and pretty much cost this team two games last year...HE'S okay, and doesn't answer to anyone but this buffoon of an owner...but the rookie GM who had one of the better draft classes of the past ten years...he now has to report to a guy who helped run the Jets into the ground? Okay. That makes sense.

3) Love me some Jarvis Landry, but he either needs to settle down on kick returns or be replaced on that duty.

4) Sooo....Miami's D utterly collapsed during the last half of the season (what did they give up to the offensive juggernauts of the Vikings and the Jets...about a thousand yards?)...but nobody wants to address the Kevin Coyle situation. Meanwhile, in the past 48 hours, Vic Fangio has become available, and the Niners and Bears are all over him. Okay.

5) See you all at 6 to 8 wins next year.
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Seems like this has been the case for an eternity. 8-8 when the "D" at one point looked like one of the best in the league? It's tough to get excited these days.
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If by "these days" you mean all of the days since 1994, then yeah.

 
The Dolphins were reportedly high on Wisconsin coach Bret Bielema before hiring Joe Philbin in 2012, but the sides disagreed on whether Russell Wilson could be an NFL starter.

Per ace beat writer Armando Salguero, Ross was high on Bielema for the head-coaching job, but Bielema and the personnel department led by ex-GM Jeff Ireland hit a wall when Bielema suggested the Dolphins draft Wilson in the second round. Bielema allegedly even promised the Dolphins a Super Bowl within five years if they took Wilson, who was Bielema's quarterback at Wisconsin. "They all looked at me like, 'You can't say that.," Bielema said. "That's the difference between college and pro. He's undersized. He can't throw.' I was like, 'OK, all right,' and I honestly, that day, kind of pulled myself out of it." Ross ultimately convinced Ireland to draft Ryan Tannehill with the No. 8 overall pick. Wilson went to Seattle in the third round.

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MIAMI HERALD

Barf

 
dirtyjay said:
The Dolphins were reportedly high on Wisconsin coach Bret Bielema before hiring Joe Philbin in 2012, but the sides disagreed on whether Russell Wilson could be an NFL starter.

Per ace beat writer Armando Salguero, Ross was high on Bielema for the head-coaching job, but Bielema and the personnel department led by ex-GM Jeff Ireland hit a wall when Bielema suggested the Dolphins draft Wilson in the second round. Bielema allegedly even promised the Dolphins a Super Bowl within five years if they took Wilson, who was Bielema's quarterback at Wisconsin. "They all looked at me like, 'You can't say that.," Bielema said. "That's the difference between college and pro. He's undersized. He can't throw.' I was like, 'OK, all right,' and I honestly, that day, kind of pulled myself out of it." Ross ultimately convinced Ireland to draft Ryan Tannehill with the No. 8 overall pick. Wilson went to Seattle in the third round.

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MIAMI HERALD

Barf
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Its all fantasy world now, but Luke Kuechly went with pick 9 after we took Tannehill at 8. Kuechly/Wilson in the 1st and 2nd rounds would have made a heck of a difference for this franchise.

That said, I think Tannehill was worth the 8th pick - its just the fantasy world of what could have been had we gone in a different direction. I like the hypothetical of that scenario a lot better than the reality of this one.

 
Dolphins cut Hartline today. I know Ireland gave him way too big of a contract, but this feels like a ####ty move on Miami's part. They did not even offer him a reduced salary number.

There goes the last member of the 2009 draft class. You can't build a winning team in free agency.

 
Slapdash said:
Dolphins cut Hartline today. I know Ireland gave him way too big of a contract, but this feels like a ####ty move on Miami's part. They did not even offer him a reduced salary number.

There goes the last member of the 2009 draft class. You can't build a winning team in free agency.
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He was hugely disappointing last year. I think they did him right by releasing him as early as they did. If anything, it was a classy move IMO. They apparently didnt want him, even at whatever price he may have been willing to play for, so they let him go so that he could get ahead of the free agent game and find a new home.

To be clear, I am not defending letting him go regardless of price, I am defending this as not be a ####ty move on their part. Regarding the move from a football perspective alone, I am surprised that they didnt try to keep him given his relationship and what appeared to be great chemistry in 2013 with 17.

Maybe clearing room to make a play for Randall Cobb? Seems like a perfect WR for Tannehill.

 
Fair points Chuck. I don't like it as a football move, but I'm sure he is grateful to get a headstart on finding a new team.

 
Miami released Brandon Gibson as well. WR corps is going to be pretty thin if Wallace is let go. Mathews asked to be released as wll.

Doubt Cobb is affordable with the limited amount of space Miami has to address all their holes.

 
Dolphins cut Finnegan saving about $5.5mm against the cap in 2015. Need to invest that money elsewhere and pick Waynes with the1st round pick IMO.

 
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Lot of cuts happening. Cleaning house. Interesting.

Q for Dolphin fans: What's the feeling on Philbin?
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This is make or break year for Philbin. He has given us no real reason for optimism. My guess is that he is gone in 16 because I dont think this is a playoff team in 15. Another year of mediocrity would be the end IMO.

That said, I hate how often we have turned over our coaching staff since Shula retired, and I did support giving him one more season in the name of continuity. I think he needs 10 wins or 9 with a playoff berth to stay employed.

 
Q for Dolphin fans: What's the feeling on Philbin?
Discouraged by the end of the last two seasons; Losses to Bills and Jets when a play-off birth was there for the taking; Missed again in 14 even with the defense appeared to among the league's best early on. The inability to close a season/games is on the coaching staff...

Hanging my hat now on the ability to build a dominant defense; The league has changed over the years. Offense is fun but I still believe that running the ball and a strong defense are the key to a championship.

 
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