*** Official Michael Turner 2007 offseason thread *** (1 Viewer)

[Harry Beanbag]

this thread is like crack.

the one on the chargers message board is like 490 pages. but you cant fit as many posts on a page.

What are the odds that when MT is finally traded or signed away that the info will come to this board via a subtle post in this thread or a huge post in and of itself with at least five ****** marks and the word OFFICIAL in all caps?ETA: I am the proud to say I broke the cherry on page 20 of this sucker....

 

[grind]

You had me scared for a minute. Thought maybe I was posting in a non-official thread. Made me look to verify that this is an official thread. Whewwwwww... I always feel bad for those people that don't post in "****official*****" threads.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Q&A with AJ Smith (4/20/07)

First of all, what’s the latest on Michael Turner’s status?

“I know people are following this closely. Our position is very clear. I think the teams that are interested are pretty clear on this. Michael Turner was tendered at a first and third-round pick for this season. He’s a terrific football player as a kickoff returner and backup to LT. He’s a valuable member of our team. We are very comfortable with Michael coming back and playing with us next season. However, if another team presents us with a package that we think is advantageous for the Chargers, we would entertain having Michael go to a new team.

“What would that package entail? Obviously we know it’s not a one and a three this year because that paralyzes a draft. I’ve been on record as saying it’s a one and a three, but I’m flexible. By that I mean you could have this year’s draft or next year’s and decide which way you want to work that. Another team could also create a package and present it to us for consideration.

“If a deal doesn’t work out, Michael will return and hit unrestricted free agency next year. When he goes to free agency, he’ll move on, which he certainly should because he’s a great back and he’s going to be a quality starter in this league. We in turn will be awarded a compensatory pick in the 2009 draft. We anticipate it will be a third-round pick because of the high value on Michael right now, which will only increase in the open market with more bidding teams.

“We are clear in our mind. We know exactly what we’re doing. Michael will either be here or he will not be here. We will decide as an organization. I don’t have a gut feeling as to how it will go. I know our position is clear, but I really don’t know what the decision makers are thinking on the teams that are interested. We’ll just wait and see.”

 

[kevinray]

Q&A with AJ Smith (4/20/07)

First of all, what’s the latest on Michael Turner’s status?

“I know people are following this closely. Our position is very clear. I think the teams that are interested are pretty clear on this. Michael Turner was tendered at a first and third-round pick for this season. He’s a terrific football player as a kickoff returner and backup to LT. He’s a valuable member of our team. We are very comfortable with Michael coming back and playing with us next season. However, if another team presents us with a package that we think is advantageous for the Chargers, we would entertain having Michael go to a new team.

“What would that package entail? Obviously we know it’s not a one and a three this year because that paralyzes a draft. I’ve been on record as saying it’s a one and a three, but I’m flexible. By that I mean you could have this year’s draft or next year’s and decide which way you want to work that. Another team could also create a package and present it to us for consideration.

“If a deal doesn’t work out, Michael will return and hit unrestricted free agency next year. When he goes to free agency, he’ll move on, which he certainly should because he’s a great back and he’s going to be a quality starter in this league. We in turn will be awarded a compensatory pick in the 2009 draft. We anticipate it will be a third-round pick because of the high value on Michael right now, which will only increase in the open market with more bidding teams.

“We are clear in our mind. We know exactly what we’re doing. Michael will either be here or he will not be here. We will decide as an organization. I don’t have a gut feeling as to how it will go. I know our position is clear, but I really don’t know what the decision makers are thinking on the teams that are interested. We’ll just wait and see.”

I usually don't like to believe coaches and team statements when they're in trade discussions, but I really couldn't imagine the chargers feeling any differently then this. I'm not sure that the breaking point would be for a trade, and to be honest I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't know either. I starting to think more and more that whether this trade goes down has a lot to do with the way the draft goes, if the right player is there for the chargers and the wrong one for the Titans and Bills. A who ever blinks first and a lot of phone calls kind of draft day. Should be exciting.

 

[switz]

Food for thought....We continue to over value back-ups. Jordan and CT come to mind and while they had fair value right off the bat they wont amount to anything but where they started. Back-up's!!!! While over looking Turners stats I noticed he pretty much beat up on Indy, KC and Oaklands run defense's. His most impressive stats come in back to back games against Baltimore/Pittsburgh last year. I may be missing something and would more than welcome someone to correct me of why he is worth the current attention. This is a quetion to what is his real value in a Fantasy aspect rather than to any said team value. As of now most are saying he is as good as the #4 rookie pick possibly the #3.What say you?

I say Larry Johnson, Priest Holmes, Frank Gore the list goes on and on.

Priest was a starter in year two for 13 games so not sure he was a legit backup when delt. Gore was drafted with starting potential due to lack of competion with no doubt out preforming expectations. LJ came with big time expections and had legit games before becoming the starter and not just mop-up duty. I'm not trying to bash the kid but just wondering where his true value might lie. Is he somwhere inbetween the high and low or are we talking the next LJ/Priest type player?

Turner could have started for almost any other team, but the Chargers drafted him and no, he's not as good as LT. Is he Gore/LJ good? Yes, easily.

for any fantasy team maybe.NFL teams actually value pass blocking and blitz pickup skills so their multi-million QBs don;t get killed.

And Turner is very good at those things... hence he could have started for almost any other NFL team.

 

[switz]

Turner could have started for almost any other team, but the Chargers drafted him and no, he's not as good as LT. Is he Gore/LJ good? Yes, easily.

That is a bold statement my friend. You really think that Turner will outclass Gore and LJ? Your are definately drinking the koolaid. We shall see if you are correct but I think history and probibilities probably are against you. If I were the type to do a sig bet I would offer but I am not interested in that nonsesnse so all I can say is good luck to you with that prediction sir.

Outclass? No. Be in the same tier of RBs? Yes.Remember, I was the guy high on him back in the NFL draft. Before the Chargers took him. Before he showed anything on the NFL level. In college I thought this guy was going to be an NFL stud. So yes... I believe he's that good.

 

[-OZ-]

Turner could have started for almost any other team, but the Chargers drafted him and no, he's not as good as LT. Is he Gore/LJ good? Yes, easily.

That is a bold statement my friend. You really think that Turner will outclass Gore and LJ? Your are definately drinking the koolaid. We shall see if you are correct but I think history and probibilities probably are against you. If I were the type to do a sig bet I would offer but I am not interested in that nonsesnse so all I can say is good luck to you with that prediction sir.

Outclass? No. Be in the same tier of RBs? Yes.Remember, I was the guy high on him back in the NFL draft. Before the Chargers took him. Before he showed anything on the NFL level. In college I thought this guy was going to be an NFL stud. So yes... I believe he's that good.

Outclass LJ? Really not hard to dutperform?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Q&A with AJ Smith (4/20/07)

First of all, what’s the latest on Michael Turner’s status?

“I know people are following this closely. Our position is very clear. I think the teams that are interested are pretty clear on this. Michael Turner was tendered at a first and third-round pick for this season. He’s a terrific football player as a kickoff returner and backup to LT. He’s a valuable member of our team. We are very comfortable with Michael coming back and playing with us next season. However, if another team presents us with a package that we think is advantageous for the Chargers, we would entertain having Michael go to a new team.

“What would that package entail? Obviously we know it’s not a one and a three this year because that paralyzes a draft. I’ve been on record as saying it’s a one and a three, but I’m flexible. By that I mean you could have this year’s draft or next year’s and decide which way you want to work that. Another team could also create a package and present it to us for consideration.

“If a deal doesn’t work out, Michael will return and hit unrestricted free agency next year. When he goes to free agency, he’ll move on, which he certainly should because he’s a great back and he’s going to be a quality starter in this league. We in turn will be awarded a compensatory pick in the 2009 draft. We anticipate it will be a third-round pick because of the high value on Michael right now, which will only increase in the open market with more bidding teams.

“We are clear in our mind. We know exactly what we’re doing. Michael will either be here or he will not be here. We will decide as an organization. I don’t have a gut feeling as to how it will go. I know our position is clear, but I really don’t know what the decision makers are thinking on the teams that are interested. We’ll just wait and see.”

I usually don't like to believe coaches and team statements when they're in trade discussions, but I really couldn't imagine the chargers feeling any differently then this. I'm not sure that the breaking point would be for a trade, and to be honest I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't know either. I starting to think more and more that whether this trade goes down has a lot to do with the way the draft goes, if the right player is there for the chargers and the wrong one for the Titans and Bills. A who ever blinks first and a lot of phone calls kind of draft day. Should be exciting.

Just one of dozens of great storylines that we will watch play out in just over one week!

 

[switz]

Turner could have started for almost any other team, but the Chargers drafted him and no, he's not as good as LT. Is he Gore/LJ good? Yes, easily.

That is a bold statement my friend. You really think that Turner will outclass Gore and LJ? Your are definately drinking the koolaid. We shall see if you are correct but I think history and probibilities probably are against you. If I were the type to do a sig bet I would offer but I am not interested in that nonsesnse so all I can say is good luck to you with that prediction sir.

Outclass? No. Be in the same tier of RBs? Yes.Remember, I was the guy high on him back in the NFL draft. Before the Chargers took him. Before he showed anything on the NFL level. In college I thought this guy was going to be an NFL stud. So yes... I believe he's that good.

Outclass LJ? Really not hard to dutperform?

Again, I didn't say outperform either. I said he could be AS GOOD AS Gore and LJ, and that he'd be in the same tier. But, could he outperform LJ? Yeah, I tihnk so. Especially considering how awful KC is going to be this year.

 

[RD1967]

Turner could have started for almost any other team, but the Chargers drafted him and no, he's not as good as LT. Is he Gore/LJ good? Yes, easily.

That is a bold statement my friend. You really think that Turner will outclass Gore and LJ? Your are definately drinking the koolaid. We shall see if you are correct but I think history and probibilities probably are against you. If I were the type to do a sig bet I would offer but I am not interested in that nonsesnse so all I can say is good luck to you with that prediction sir.

Outclass? No. Be in the same tier of RBs? Yes.Remember, I was the guy high on him back in the NFL draft. Before the Chargers took him. Before he showed anything on the NFL level. In college I thought this guy was going to be an NFL stud. So yes... I believe he's that good.

Outclass LJ? Really not hard to dutperform?

Again, I didn't say outperform either. I said he could be AS GOOD AS Gore and LJ, and that he'd be in the same tier. But, could he outperform LJ? Yeah, I tihnk so. Especially considering how awful KC is going to be this year.

Hey you got the Order right Gore and "then" LJ.

 

[D.O.M.]

WOW...no posts in almost 12 hours...could it be that we're over it all?

 

[RD1967]

WOW...no posts in almost 12 hours...could it be that we're over it all?

:X

 

[ConstruxBoy]

About time for AJ to make another statement about "AJ not needing to trade MT", isn't it?

 

[Liltee8869]

Why??? He doesn't need to!!!

 

[Obie Wan]

Food for thought....We continue to over value back-ups. Jordan and CT come to mind and while they had fair value right off the bat they wont amount to anything but where they started. Back-up's!!!! While over looking Turners stats I noticed he pretty much beat up on Indy, KC and Oaklands run defense's. His most impressive stats come in back to back games against Baltimore/Pittsburgh last year. I may be missing something and would more than welcome someone to correct me of why he is worth the current attention. This is a quetion to what is his real value in a Fantasy aspect rather than to any said team value. As of now most are saying he is as good as the #4 rookie pick possibly the #3.What say you?

I say Larry Johnson, Priest Holmes, Frank Gore the list goes on and on.

Priest was a starter in year two for 13 games so not sure he was a legit backup when delt. Gore was drafted with starting potential due to lack of competion with no doubt out preforming expectations. LJ came with big time expections and had legit games before becoming the starter and not just mop-up duty. I'm not trying to bash the kid but just wondering where his true value might lie. Is he somwhere inbetween the high and low or are we talking the next LJ/Priest type player?

Turner could have started for almost any other team, but the Chargers drafted him and no, he's not as good as LT. Is he Gore/LJ good? Yes, easily.

for any fantasy team maybe.NFL teams actually value pass blocking and blitz pickup skills so their multi-million QBs don;t get killed.

And Turner is very good at those things... hence he could have started for almost any other NFL team.

maybe if San Diego shared your optimism they would have used him more extensively in situations requiring those skills.

 

[-OZ-]

NFL teams actually value pass blocking and blitz pickup skills so their multi-million QBs don;t get killed.

And Turner is very good at those things... hence he could have started for almost any other NFL team.

maybe if San Diego shared your optimism they would have used him more extensively in situations requiring those skills.

What's the confusion? You're apparently forgetting that San Diego has two backs among the elite in those areas already on the field. (LT and Neal)This is pretty simple really, we do not know if Turner is as good as LJ or other backs, because no RB in the league is going to force LT and Neal to the bench. Now, the chances are he isn't, but the argument about playing time doesn't hold well here. Think about it, if Indianapolis had drafted Tiki Barber, would anyone know how good he is? Would he have played much in front of Marshall Faulk? (Again, I'm not saying Turner is this good)

 

[Obie Wan]

NFL teams actually value pass blocking and blitz pickup skills so their multi-million QBs don;t get killed.

And Turner is very good at those things... hence he could have started for almost any other NFL team.

maybe if San Diego shared your optimism they would have used him more extensively in situations requiring those skills.

What's the confusion? You're apparently forgetting that San Diego has two backs among the elite in those areas already on the field. (LT and Neal)This is pretty simple really, we do not know if Turner is as good as LJ or other backs, because no RB in the league is going to force LT and Neal to the bench. Now, the chances are he isn't, but the argument about playing time doesn't hold well here. Think about it, if Indianapolis had drafted Tiki Barber, would anyone know how good he is? Would he have played much in front of Marshall Faulk? (Again, I'm not saying Turner is this good)

when he did play, he did nothing but run the football.When he was in for LT, he was not used the same way that LT was used. They did not pass to him or anyone else when he was in the game.The likely conclusion is that the aspects of his game related to the passing game are lacking or SD would have exploited those skills when Turner did play.However, those skills are irrelevant to fantasy posters, so they get no play here.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

when he did play, he did nothing but run the football.

Reminds me of Buddy Ryan's quip about Cris Carter. All Michael Turner does is get first downs by averaging six yards a carry.

 

[-OZ-]

NFL teams actually value pass blocking and blitz pickup skills so their multi-million QBs don;t get killed.

And Turner is very good at those things... hence he could have started for almost any other NFL team.

maybe if San Diego shared your optimism they would have used him more extensively in situations requiring those skills.

What's the confusion? You're apparently forgetting that San Diego has two backs among the elite in those areas already on the field. (LT and Neal)This is pretty simple really, we do not know if Turner is as good as LJ or other backs, because no RB in the league is going to force LT and Neal to the bench. Now, the chances are he isn't, but the argument about playing time doesn't hold well here. Think about it, if Indianapolis had drafted Tiki Barber, would anyone know how good he is? Would he have played much in front of Marshall Faulk? (Again, I'm not saying Turner is this good)

when he did play, he did nothing but run the football.When he was in for LT, he was not used the same way that LT was used. They did not pass to him or anyone else when he was in the game.The likely conclusion is that the aspects of his game related to the passing game are lacking or SD would have exploited those skills when Turner did play.However, those skills are irrelevant to fantasy posters, so they get no play here.

No, the likely conclusion is that he isn't as good as LT in those areas. But as I said, who is?I didn't see every Chargers play this year, so I don't know if they ever passed when he was in the game. I assumed they did at least once. Maybe not. He did have 3 receptions in 2006.

 

[Yitbos69]

NFL teams actually value pass blocking and blitz pickup skills so their multi-million QBs don;t get killed.

And Turner is very good at those things... hence he could have started for almost any other NFL team.

maybe if San Diego shared your optimism they would have used him more extensively in situations requiring those skills.

What's the confusion? You're apparently forgetting that San Diego has two backs among the elite in those areas already on the field. (LT and Neal)This is pretty simple really, we do not know if Turner is as good as LJ or other backs, because no RB in the league is going to force LT and Neal to the bench. Now, the chances are he isn't, but the argument about playing time doesn't hold well here. Think about it, if Indianapolis had drafted Tiki Barber, would anyone know how good he is? Would he have played much in front of Marshall Faulk? (Again, I'm not saying Turner is this good)

when he did play, he did nothing but run the football.When he was in for LT, he was not used the same way that LT was used. They did not pass to him or anyone else when he was in the game.The likely conclusion is that the aspects of his game related to the passing game are lacking or SD would have exploited those skills when Turner did play.However, those skills are irrelevant to fantasy posters, so they get no play here.

Turner has thrown a total of Zero TD passes in his career........Turner clearly has no shot at being a feature RB in the NFL

 

[D.O.M.]

Today's Turner news...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20...23chargers.html

Looking a little optimistic

 

[zamboni]

Today's Turner news...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20...23chargers.html

Looking a little optimistic

Doesn't sound any different than any other news over the past few weeks.

 

[enfuego]

Today's Turner news...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20...23chargers.html

Looking a little optimistic

Doesn't sound any different than any other news over the past few weeks.

There's nothing to say that a trade could not happen post-draft, but, of course that would depend largely on who San Diego take in the draft... (I realize the subject has been mildly debated whether the Chargers would make the playoffs should LT go down.)

I would like to see odds on this trade happening at all, which team, and when?

 

[alg]

Today's Turner news...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20...23chargers.html

Looking a little optimistic

Ironicly, I think that article is nothing more then an 'AJ bump.' Least anyone forget that he will settle for only one 1st round pick for Turner....

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Today's Turner news...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20...23chargers.html

Looking a little optimistic

Ironicly, I think that article is nothing more then an 'AJ bump.' Least anyone forget that he will settle for only one 1st round pick for Turner....

I think that Manning-Rivers deal got AJ's ego in the GM stratosphere. Not that he's the only one, by any means.

 

[zamboni]

Today's Turner news...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20...23chargers.html

Looking a little optimistic

Ironicly, I think that article is nothing more then an 'AJ bump.' Least anyone forget that he will settle for only one 1st round pick for Turner....

I think that Manning-Rivers deal got AJ's ego in the GM stratosphere.

So has this, and understandably so:Chargers | Fast fact: NFL Draft

Mon, 23 Apr 2007 06:42:43 -0700

Kevin Acee, of the San Diego Union-Tribune, reports five players acquired by the San Diego Chargers in the past three NFL Drafts have been voted to the Pro Bowl.

Anyway, as for Turner, I think I've shifted back to thinking he's staying. Just seems like teams don't want to surrender that much, and AJ seems more than happy to keep MT.

Oh yeah, 24 posts until 1000 for this thread.

 

[D.O.M.]

We should do a pool...guess how many posts this thread will have at 12:00 Saturday when the draft starts.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Today's Turner news...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20...23chargers.html

Looking a little optimistic

Ironicly, I think that article is nothing more then an 'AJ bump.' Least anyone forget that he will settle for only one 1st round pick for Turner....

I think that Manning-Rivers deal got AJ's ego in the GM stratosphere.

So has this, and understandably so:Chargers | Fast fact: NFL Draft

Mon, 23 Apr 2007 06:42:43 -0700

Kevin Acee, of the San Diego Union-Tribune, reports five players acquired by the San Diego Chargers in the past three NFL Drafts have been voted to the Pro Bowl.

Anyway, as for Turner, I think I've shifted back to thinking he's staying. Just seems like teams don't want to surrender that much, and AJ seems more than happy to keep MT.

Oh yeah, 24 posts until 1000 for this thread.

Sure, no one is saying that he isn't good. But it is almost comical that he pushes the same GM-speak in every interview. And did I see in one of those articles that he was quoted referring to himself in the 3rd person?

 

[alg]

Today's Turner news...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20...23chargers.html

Looking a little optimistic

Ironicly, I think that article is nothing more then an 'AJ bump.' Least anyone forget that he will settle for only one 1st round pick for Turner....

I think that Manning-Rivers deal got AJ's ego in the GM stratosphere.

So has this, and understandably so:Chargers | Fast fact: NFL Draft

Mon, 23 Apr 2007 06:42:43 -0700

Kevin Acee, of the San Diego Union-Tribune, reports five players acquired by the San Diego Chargers in the past three NFL Drafts have been voted to the Pro Bowl.

Anyway, as for Turner, I think I've shifted back to thinking he's staying. Just seems like teams don't want to surrender that much, and AJ seems more than happy to keep MT.

Oh yeah, 24 posts until 1000 for this thread.

Sure, no one is saying that he isn't good. But it is almost comical that he pushes the same GM-speak in every interview. And did I see in one of those articles that he was quoted referring to himself in the 3rd person?

A sure sign AJ has 'jumped the shark.'

 

[NoFBinLA]

Today's Turner news...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20...23chargers.html

Looking a little optimistic

Ironicly, I think that article is nothing more then an 'AJ bump.' Least anyone forget that he will settle for only one 1st round pick for Turner....

I think that Manning-Rivers deal got AJ's ego in the GM stratosphere.

So has this, and understandably so:Chargers | Fast fact: NFL Draft

Mon, 23 Apr 2007 06:42:43 -0700

Kevin Acee, of the San Diego Union-Tribune, reports five players acquired by the San Diego Chargers in the past three NFL Drafts have been voted to the Pro Bowl.

Anyway, as for Turner, I think I've shifted back to thinking he's staying. Just seems like teams don't want to surrender that much, and AJ seems more than happy to keep MT.

Oh yeah, 24 posts until 1000 for this thread.

Sure, no one is saying that he isn't good. But it is almost comical that he pushes the same GM-speak in every interview. And did I see in one of those articles that he was quoted referring to himself in the 3rd person?

A sure sign AJ has 'jumped the shark.'

Next thing you know, he'll be setting up illegal speed traps and trapping b-list movie stars and rock bands whose only option will be to play at the Boar's Head in order to escape town...:bosshogg:

 

[thayman]

NFL teams actually value pass blocking and blitz pickup skills so their multi-million QBs don;t get killed.

And Turner is very good at those things... hence he could have started for almost any other NFL team.

maybe if San Diego shared your optimism they would have used him more extensively in situations requiring those skills.

What's the confusion? You're apparently forgetting that San Diego has two backs among the elite in those areas already on the field. (LT and Neal)This is pretty simple really, we do not know if Turner is as good as LJ or other backs, because no RB in the league is going to force LT and Neal to the bench. Now, the chances are he isn't, but the argument about playing time doesn't hold well here. Think about it, if Indianapolis had drafted Tiki Barber, would anyone know how good he is? Would he have played much in front of Marshall Faulk? (Again, I'm not saying Turner is this good)

when he did play, he did nothing but run the football.When he was in for LT, he was not used the same way that LT was used. They did not pass to him or anyone else when he was in the game.The likely conclusion is that the aspects of his game related to the passing game are lacking or SD would have exploited those skills when Turner did play.However, those skills are irrelevant to fantasy posters, so they get no play here.

No the likely conclusion is that the aspects of Tomlinson's game >>>>> Turner's game.

 

[massraider]

Today's Turner news...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20...23chargers.html

Looking a little optimistic :X

Ironicly, I think that article is nothing more then an 'AJ bump.' Least anyone forget that he will settle for only one 1st round pick for Turner....

I think that Manning-Rivers deal got AJ's ego in the GM stratosphere.

So has this, and understandably so:Chargers | Fast fact: NFL Draft

Mon, 23 Apr 2007 06:42:43 -0700

Kevin Acee, of the San Diego Union-Tribune, reports five players acquired by the San Diego Chargers in the past three NFL Drafts have been voted to the Pro Bowl.

Anyway, as for Turner, I think I've shifted back to thinking he's staying. Just seems like teams don't want to surrender that much, and AJ seems more than happy to keep MT.

Oh yeah, 24 posts until 1000 for this thread.

Sure, no one is saying that he isn't good. But it is almost comical that he pushes the same GM-speak in every interview. And did I see in one of those articles that he was quoted referring to himself in the 3rd person?

A sure sign AJ has 'jumped the shark.'

You know how we'd have confirmation? If he used the phrase 'jumped the shark'.

 

[cstu]

** Chargers GM A.J. Smith was on XX Sports Radio 1090 today. He was pretty candid about RB Michael "The Burner" Turner, a restricted free agent who's worked out for two teams -- Tennessee & Buffalo -- not to mention rumors that Green Bay & Philadelphia have also made contact. "Everyone just laid the cards on the table," Smith said. "It’s what I call 'the bluff situation' or it will just pass. That means, we know that it [Turner's tender compensation] is a one and a three, and that time has passed so no one ever gives that because it cripples your draft. I have said to the interested teams that we are flexible, meaning [any team's offer could split up picks] this year and next year." Smith also said recently he was willing to hold Turner and settle for a 2009 3rd-round compensatory pick after the 237-lb back walks in free agency next year. Smith is playing the game. Meanwhile, Draft Sharks has been monitoring this closely and we've had a fly on the wall in Nashville the whole time. Our source was even present during Turner's physical. We believe there's a good chance Turner becomes a Tennessee Titan during the draft Saturday afternoon.

 

[fatness]

Always believe a source with a rubber glove.

 

[zamboni]

** Chargers GM A.J. Smith was on XX Sports Radio 1090 today. He was pretty candid about RB Michael "The Burner" Turner, a restricted free agent who's worked out for two teams -- Tennessee & Buffalo -- not to mention rumors that Green Bay & Philadelphia have also made contact. "Everyone just laid the cards on the table," Smith said. "It’s what I call 'the bluff situation' or it will just pass. That means, we know that it [Turner's tender compensation] is a one and a three, and that time has passed so no one ever gives that because it cripples your draft. I have said to the interested teams that we are flexible, meaning [any team's offer could split up picks] this year and next year." Smith also said recently he was willing to hold Turner and settle for a 2009 3rd-round compensatory pick after the 237-lb back walks in free agency next year. Smith is playing the game. Meanwhile, Draft Sharks has been monitoring this closely and we've had a fly on the wall in Nashville the whole time. Our source was even present during Turner's physical. We believe there's a good chance Turner becomes a Tennessee Titan during the draft Saturday afternoon.

Sounds like their fly-on-the-wall source has been, literally, a fly on the wall.

 

[el-gato-grande]

** Chargers GM A.J. Smith was on XX Sports Radio 1090 today. He was pretty candid about RB Michael "The Burner" Turner, a restricted free agent who's worked out for two teams -- Tennessee & Buffalo -- not to mention rumors that Green Bay & Philadelphia have also made contact. "Everyone just laid the cards on the table," Smith said. "It’s what I call 'the bluff situation' or it will just pass. That means, we know that it [Turner's tender compensation] is a one and a three, and that time has passed so no one ever gives that because it cripples your draft. I have said to the interested teams that we are flexible, meaning [any team's offer could split up picks] this year and next year." Smith also said recently he was willing to hold Turner and settle for a 2009 3rd-round compensatory pick after the 237-lb back walks in free agency next year. Smith is playing the game. Meanwhile, Draft Sharks has been monitoring this closely and we've had a fly on the wall in Nashville the whole time. Our source was even present during Turner's physical. We believe there's a good chance Turner becomes a Tennessee Titan during the draft Saturday afternoon.

Notice that we've heard very little from the Titans since his visit? To me, that probably means they have been working on a deal. Otherwise, they would have killed speculation like Buffalo did a week ago. That coupled with a draft that is weak on first round worthy talent and I'd bet chances are good Turner lands in Tennessee.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

** Chargers GM A.J. Smith was on XX Sports Radio 1090 today. He was pretty candid about RB Michael "The Burner" Turner, a restricted free agent who's worked out for two teams -- Tennessee & Buffalo -- not to mention rumors that Green Bay & Philadelphia have also made contact. "Everyone just laid the cards on the table," Smith said. "It’s what I call 'the bluff situation' or it will just pass. That means, we know that it [Turner's tender compensation] is a one and a three, and that time has passed so no one ever gives that because it cripples your draft. I have said to the interested teams that we are flexible, meaning [any team's offer could split up picks] this year and next year." Smith also said recently he was willing to hold Turner and settle for a 2009 3rd-round compensatory pick after the 237-lb back walks in free agency next year. Smith is playing the game. Meanwhile, Draft Sharks has been monitoring this closely and we've had a fly on the wall in Nashville the whole time. Our source was even present during Turner's physical. We believe there's a good chance Turner becomes a Tennessee Titan during the draft Saturday afternoon.

Notice that we've heard very little from the Titans since his visit? To me, that probably means they have been working on a deal. Otherwise, they would have killed speculation like Buffalo did a week ago. That coupled with a draft that is weak on first round worthy talent and I'd bet chances are good Turner lands in Tennessee.

I think of all the places to go from a fantasy perspective Turner to the Titans should make Turner owners salivate the most.

 

[Dope]

** Chargers GM A.J. Smith was on XX Sports Radio 1090 today. He was pretty candid about RB Michael "The Burner" Turner, a restricted free agent who's worked out for two teams -- Tennessee & Buffalo -- not to mention rumors that Green Bay & Philadelphia have also made contact. "Everyone just laid the cards on the table," Smith said. "It’s what I call 'the bluff situation' or it will just pass. That means, we know that it [Turner's tender compensation] is a one and a three, and that time has passed so no one ever gives that because it cripples your draft. I have said to the interested teams that we are flexible, meaning [any team's offer could split up picks] this year and next year." Smith also said recently he was willing to hold Turner and settle for a 2009 3rd-round compensatory pick after the 237-lb back walks in free agency next year. Smith is playing the game. Meanwhile, Draft Sharks has been monitoring this closely and we've had a fly on the wall in Nashville the whole time. Our source was even present during Turner's physical. We believe there's a good chance Turner becomes a Tennessee Titan during the draft Saturday afternoon.

Notice that we've heard very little from the Titans since his visit? To me, that probably means they have been working on a deal. Otherwise, they would have killed speculation like Buffalo did a week ago. That coupled with a draft that is weak on first round worthy talent and I'd bet chances are good Turner lands in Tennessee.

I think of all the places to go from a fantasy perspective Turner to the Titans should make Turner owners salivate the most.

As a Turner owner, for me it would go:1. Green Bay

2. Tenn

3. Buff

4. San Diego

 

[grind]

Is really logical for a team to make a trade for Turner after the draft starts, considering they would still have to sign him long-term? Seems like working out a trade AND a long-term deal to the satisfaction of Turner and his agent would be hard to do in the 15 minutes between picks.

 

[massraider]

Is really logical for a team to make a trade for Turner after the draft starts, considering they would still have to sign him long-term? Seems like working out a trade AND a long-term deal to the satisfaction of Turner and his agent would be hard to do in the 15 minutes between picks.

He's visited two different teams, took a physical, etc.You think there's a chance they may have spoken to his agent about a deal?

 

[grind]

Is really logical for a team to make a trade for Turner after the draft starts, considering they would still have to sign him long-term? Seems like working out a trade AND a long-term deal to the satisfaction of Turner and his agent would be hard to do in the 15 minutes between picks.

He's visited two different teams, took a physical, etc.You think there's a chance they may have spoken to his agent about a deal?

I'm sure the deal has been spoken about, but just seems to me finalizing a 5-year/30 plus million deal may actually take more then 15 minutes, even if the topic has been spoken.

 

[Traders2001]

** Chargers GM A.J. Smith was on XX Sports Radio 1090 today. He was pretty candid about RB Michael "The Burner" Turner, a restricted free agent who's worked out for two teams -- Tennessee & Buffalo -- not to mention rumors that Green Bay & Philadelphia have also made contact. "Everyone just laid the cards on the table," Smith said. "It’s what I call 'the bluff situation' or it will just pass. That means, we know that it [Turner's tender compensation] is a one and a three, and that time has passed so no one ever gives that because it cripples your draft. I have said to the interested teams that we are flexible, meaning [any team's offer could split up picks] this year and next year." Smith also said recently he was willing to hold Turner and settle for a 2009 3rd-round compensatory pick after the 237-lb back walks in free agency next year. Smith is playing the game. Meanwhile, Draft Sharks has been monitoring this closely and we've had a fly on the wall in Nashville the whole time. Our source was even present during Turner's physical. We believe there's a good chance Turner becomes a Tennessee Titan during the draft Saturday afternoon.

Notice that we've heard very little from the Titans since his visit? To me, that probably means they have been working on a deal. Otherwise, they would have killed speculation like Buffalo did a week ago. That coupled with a draft that is weak on first round worthy talent and I'd bet chances are good Turner lands in Tennessee.

I think of all the places to go from a fantasy perspective Turner to the Titans should make Turner owners salivate the most.

As a Turner owner, for me it would go:1. Green Bay

2. Tenn

3. Buff

4. San Diego

Atlanta has to be in the mix , if not someone there dont do their homework .They have zero legit NFL RB , Dunn is finished and Norwood ( Well with is 145 pounds wet ) forget about him as far as featured back .

So they have to be looking at Turner.

 

[zamboni]

Is really logical for a team to make a trade for Turner after the draft starts, considering they would still have to sign him long-term? Seems like working out a trade AND a long-term deal to the satisfaction of Turner and his agent would be hard to do in the 15 minutes between picks.

He's visited two different teams, took a physical, etc.You think there's a chance they may have spoken to his agent about a deal?

I'm sure the deal has been spoken about, but just seems to me finalizing a 5-year/30 plus million deal may actually take more then 15 minutes, even if the topic has been spoken.

If something does go down, the parameters will undoubtedly already be set by Saturday. It could also come down to whether a Buffalo or Tennessee is in line to get the player they want in their current draft spot.

 

[zamboni]

** Chargers GM A.J. Smith was on XX Sports Radio 1090 today. He was pretty candid about RB Michael "The Burner" Turner, a restricted free agent who's worked out for two teams -- Tennessee & Buffalo -- not to mention rumors that Green Bay & Philadelphia have also made contact. "Everyone just laid the cards on the table," Smith said. "It’s what I call 'the bluff situation' or it will just pass. That means, we know that it [Turner's tender compensation] is a one and a three, and that time has passed so no one ever gives that because it cripples your draft. I have said to the interested teams that we are flexible, meaning [any team's offer could split up picks] this year and next year." Smith also said recently he was willing to hold Turner and settle for a 2009 3rd-round compensatory pick after the 237-lb back walks in free agency next year. Smith is playing the game. Meanwhile, Draft Sharks has been monitoring this closely and we've had a fly on the wall in Nashville the whole time. Our source was even present during Turner's physical. We believe there's a good chance Turner becomes a Tennessee Titan during the draft Saturday afternoon.

Notice that we've heard very little from the Titans since his visit? To me, that probably means they have been working on a deal. Otherwise, they would have killed speculation like Buffalo did a week ago. That coupled with a draft that is weak on first round worthy talent and I'd bet chances are good Turner lands in Tennessee.

I think of all the places to go from a fantasy perspective Turner to the Titans should make Turner owners salivate the most.

As a Turner owner, for me it would go:1. Green Bay

2. Tenn

3. Buff

4. San Diego

Atlanta has to be in the mix , if not someone there dont do their homework .They have zero legit NFL RB , Dunn is finished and Norwood ( Well with is 145 pounds wet ) forget about him as far as featured back .

So they have to be looking at Turner.

I still continue to believe that Atlanta is the one wild card team that few are talking about. That said, I don't think they had him in for a visit/physical, so I don't see how they could trade for him sight unseen.

 

[Despyzer]

I'm sure the deal has been spoken about, but just seems to me finalizing a 5-year/30 plus million deal may actually take more then 15 minutes, even if the topic has been spoken.

If an agreement has been hammered out, it doesn't have to be finalized in order for a trade to go down.

 

[massraider]

Is really logical for a team to make a trade for Turner after the draft starts, considering they would still have to sign him long-term? Seems like working out a trade AND a long-term deal to the satisfaction of Turner and his agent would be hard to do in the 15 minutes between picks.

He's visited two different teams, took a physical, etc.You think there's a chance they may have spoken to his agent about a deal?

I'm sure the deal has been spoken about, but just seems to me finalizing a 5-year/30 plus million deal may actually take more then 15 minutes, even if the topic has been spoken.

Why are these people restricted to 15 minutes?Let's say the Titans have an offer, and the Chargers are cool with it, depending on if 'their guy' is available. Well, a few picks before, the Titans and Turner's people can be talking, there's nothing wrong with that, if they have permission.If a deal happens on draft day, I am sure you'll hear about his long term deal a few minutes after the deal is announced.Matt Shaub had a deal in place before he was traded, just because it's draft day doesn't mean the same thing can't happen.

 

[PsychoMan]

20 pages and going strong. this guy must really be something ..

 

[The Ref]

Sniff sniff, whats that I smell?

 

[grind]

Is really logical for a team to make a trade for Turner after the draft starts, considering they would still have to sign him long-term? Seems like working out a trade AND a long-term deal to the satisfaction of Turner and his agent would be hard to do in the 15 minutes between picks.

He's visited two different teams, took a physical, etc.You think there's a chance they may have spoken to his agent about a deal?

I'm sure the deal has been spoken about, but just seems to me finalizing a 5-year/30 plus million deal may actually take more then 15 minutes, even if the topic has been spoken.

Why are these people restricted to 15 minutes?Let's say the Titans have an offer, and the Chargers are cool with it, depending on if 'their guy' is available. Well, a few picks before, the Titans and Turner's people can be talking, there's nothing wrong with that, if they have permission.If a deal happens on draft day, I am sure you'll hear about his long term deal a few minutes after the deal is announced.Matt Shaub had a deal in place before he was traded, just because it's draft day doesn't mean the same thing can't happen.

I'm not saying it impossible, just seems very risky considering the time constraints. I beleive the deal as it relates to picks was in place a day or more before the Texans reached a contract agreement, which finalized the deal. If they don't start the process until the draft starts, just seems like a huge rush to first would out the deal with the Chargers related to picks and then the deal with Turner relating years, $$$$, voidable year's, etc. My feeling is that, if this is going to really happen, we will hear substatiated rumors of legit contact and contracts before Friday evening. Once the draft starts, I don't see it happening. Just my opinion.

 

[Alwazefun]

** Chargers GM A.J. Smith was on XX Sports Radio 1090 today. He was pretty candid about RB Michael "The Burner" Turner, a restricted free agent who's worked out for two teams -- Tennessee & Buffalo -- not to mention rumors that Green Bay & Philadelphia have also made contact. "Everyone just laid the cards on the table," Smith said. "It’s what I call 'the bluff situation' or it will just pass. That means, we know that it [Turner's tender compensation] is a one and a three, and that time has passed so no one ever gives that because it cripples your draft. I have said to the interested teams that we are flexible, meaning [any team's offer could split up picks] this year and next year." Smith also said recently he was willing to hold Turner and settle for a 2009 3rd-round compensatory pick after the 237-lb back walks in free agency next year. Smith is playing the game. Meanwhile, Draft Sharks has been monitoring this closely and we've had a fly on the wall in Nashville the whole time. Our source was even present during Turner's physical. We believe there's a good chance Turner becomes a Tennessee Titan during the draft Saturday afternoon.

Notice that we've heard very little from the Titans since his visit? To me, that probably means they have been working on a deal. Otherwise, they would have killed speculation like Buffalo did a week ago. That coupled with a draft that is weak on first round worthy talent and I'd bet chances are good Turner lands in Tennessee.

I think of all the places to go from a fantasy perspective Turner to the Titans should make Turner owners salivate the most.

As a Turner owner, for me it would go:1. Green Bay

2. Tenn

3. Buff

4. San Diego

Atlanta has to be in the mix , if not someone there dont do their homework .They have zero legit NFL RB , Dunn is finished and Norwood ( Well with is 145 pounds wet ) forget about him as far as featured back .

So they have to be looking at Turner.

Petrino probably has his eye on M. Bush, therefore not that intersted in M Turner