Love the way Zimmer answered those questions. That's a good football coach.
From paragraph 1 of that article, is this true???
...the Vikings offense often floundered and gave up more pressures per dropback than any other offensive line in the Pro Football Focus era
I have not been keeping up with PFF numbers but I would assume that what he is saying is true.From paragraph 1 of that article, is this true???...the Vikings offense often floundered and gave up more pressures per dropback than any other offensive line in the Pro Football Focus era
The Vikings have only drafted two offensive linemen in the first three rounds of the draft since 2007. That would be Kalil and Loadholt.
He doesn't seem to be a bad kid, in fact he seems like a decent one, but he doesn't have the demeanor to be a professional football player.What happened with Cordarrelle Patterson?
He was a threat with the ball in his hands when they used him as a RB and WR a couple years ago. Reports are that the coach is leaving it up to him to become a WR. Will he have a opportunity to work with Michael Irving this off-season?
It is not clear what position the Vikings might be considering Shurmur for. QB coach?Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network first reported that Shurmur will interview here. He added that three other teams have interest in Shurmur.
Wow. Pretty surprised if it's not at least the OC job. Wasn't he up for that level position elsewhere?Biabreakable said:Report: Pat Shurmur joining Vikings coaching staff.
It is not clear what title Shurmur will hold. As of now all of the existing coaching staff remains.
[SIZE=14pt]Shurmur has also used a WCO while Norv uses a Coryell offensive system. So Bridgewater already had to adjust to Norv's offense and the associated terminology and concepts. Bridgewater does have experience with a WCO should the Vikings want to use elements of it.[/SIZE]Watson began his career in the mid-1980s as an assistant at the University of Illinois under West Coast offense guru Mike White, who also had future NFL coaches Bill Callahan and Brad Childress on staff. At Louisville, Watson installed the same pro-style West Coast offense. While other college quarterbacks are looking to the sideline for their on-field adjustments, Bridgewater does it all by himself.
“I gave him the keys to the car as a sophomore,” said Watson, who has been a coach for 32 years. “I had never done that before.”
Jaylon Smith is another LB I have seen being mocked to the Vikings.Of the 30 mocks we have in our database right now, 13 of them (43.3%) have the Vikings taking a wide receiver, while nine of them (30%) have the team addressing the offensive line.
Ohio State linebacker Darron Lee received six selections (20%) .
There were two positions that each received one selection this time around. The defensive linemen are represented by Louisville defensive tackle Sheldon Rankins(3.3%), while the defensive backs are represented by cornerback Mackensie Alexander of Clemson (3.3%).
In my scenario I have us getting Mitchell Schwartz to be our RT and us drafting Jack Conklin to be our LT. Osemele comes in to play LG, Fusco moves back to RG, and Sully comes back as the C. Clemmings moves to the swing T, Berger is our G and C backup, and we keep Easton and try and groom him behind Sully to take over in 2 or 3 years when he hangs it up. I think the time is now to get super aggressive and totally rebuild this line and by cutting Phil, Kalil, and Wallace we save 30 million dollars so we would have plenty of money to pay Schwartz and Osemele.Wow dumping Kalil and Loadholt? Who shall be playing tackle in this situation?
Looking at a recent free agent list, there are actually several different free agent offensive tackles that look to be available.
There are even more free agent guards. So re-signing Mike Harris if they want to may not be that difficult as there are many others out there other teams may be pursuing.
4 cuts - Mike Wallace, Phil Loadholt, and I cannot really think of anyone off hand that is so expensive that they should be outright cut. I would be fine with trading Peterson not cutting him. I thought about cutting Patterson but he still is one of the best kick returners in the league. If I think of someone else will add it later.
4 signings - Mike Harris G/T. RT Mitchell Schwartz, S Reggie Nelson, Marcus Sherels.
In the above scenario the Vikings has shored up their offensive line by re-signing Mike Harris and bringing in RT Schwartz. Loadholt is cut saving money and making space for Schwartz. The Vikings have also filled the FS position with Nelson pairing up with Harrison Smith.
This shifts the Vikings needs to WR. There really would not be other needs in this situation leading the Vikings to focus on BPA and not needs.
4 picks - 1st WR Josh Doctson.2nd FS Darian Thompson. 3rd G Spencer Drango. 4th a DE/LB tweener for edge rushing depth. Not sure who yet. Hunter, Griffen, Robinson have all come from the 3rd-4th round.
I would prefer a WR or offensive lineman to the priorities over a 3rd LB if similarly graded prospects. So the only reason to take the LB is if they were by far the best player on the board.
I think safety is a bigger priority on defense than a 3rd LB is as well. Assuming Ramsey is not an option there are four safety prospects that CBS grades as second to third round picks, so pick 23 is likely too early to be taking a safety if the Vikings like all four of those players one of them may still be there for them in round two. The nice thing about Harrison Smith is you can draft any kind of safety to compliment him because he plays well as a SS or FS.
Unfortunately I think we have already seen the best football Kalil has to offer. I don't know if it is just the injuries piling up or what but I think he is just one of those guys who peaked at 21-22 and is sliding downward. I think Conklin is a brute and by all accounts has great work ethic and was a late starter in football so much so that despite having a great Senior year wasnt recruited much because college teams had not had much tape on him. He then walked on to Michigan ST and got better and better every year and performed well against some of the best DE's in the country including a mauling of Joey Bosa this year. I hate to give up on the 4th overall pick of a draft just like I hated to give up on Ponder but sometimes you just need to cut bait and move on. Kalil will be way too expensive for very average play. I know Rick is not known to splash money around but he was in team building mode and building through the draft but now with 4 or so good draft classes and most of those players still on the team we are just a few missing pieces away from a Super Bowl contender. Right now is the time to get those last couple missing pieces. We have the money to spend by cutting a couple of players on the downswing, we are a young up and coming team getting alot of good buzz as a team to contend with, and also the new stadium is opening this year that will be attractive to free agents. Now is the time to strike recruiting wise. Overhaul the OL and pair Harrison Smith with a good SS and we go from an 11-5 Division Champ to a 13-3 or so Super Bowl contender.i like an aggressive plan. Rick Spielman has shown a tendency to not pay out big money to free agents unless they are coming off of their 1st contract and still young enough to provide a few seasons of being in the prime of their career left.
Do you think Conklin will be better than Kalil at LT?
How bad is Kalil in your opinion? I think he is average for a LT (last season) but others think he was worse than that.
As we saw with Clemimings last season, it could be a lot worse than Kalil.
Because the salary cap is going up, all free agents will be getting more money. I was reading there is a ton of demand for Osemele who may be making 10 million a year average over his contract. So I do not see much salary cap room from exchanging Kalil for him. Perhaps he is a better player than Kalil but is he a better LT?
Schwartz is a guy who I think fits Spielmans profile for free agent targets. Schwartz may not need as much money as some of the other FA tackles or Osemele, but maybe he gets paid a ton also.
I worry that Conklin or whoever replaces Kalil plays worse than he does and the Vikings create a new hole by cutting him. There is also the loss of investment. If Kalil is a average starting LT in the league, then teams would likely give something for him in trade.
We agree about cutting Loadholt which saves enough money to pay Schwartz, who is younger and perhaps better in pass protection than Loadholt ever was. Loadholt had that one really good season, I think it was after his contract extension where he seemed to trim down a bit, he played well that year in pass protection but even at his best he still gets beat by outside speed pass rushers. Loadholt is a great run blocker, no doubt about that and a great player to Peterson, but not so good for Teddy.
If I felt comfortable with Clemmings or Shepherd or Bykowski being able to step in at LT and not play worse than Kalil then it wouldn't worry me. I saw Clemmings play last year though, so it does. Shepherd looked alright in very limited action, but you have to think he would have played more if he was significantly better than Clemmings was.
I'm a little surprised myself that they finished 11-5 with the ongoing OL struggles. It crippled our offense. The Langford drop was a gift, no question. We won our share of dogfights, and the team might have finished 10-6 or worse.What do you all think the Vikings record will be in 2016?