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***OFFICIAL*** Minnesota Vikings 2016 Season Thread (1 Viewer)
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Biabreakable
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Vikings Activate QB Taylor Heinicke, Waive TE MyCole Pruitt
Some cleaning house I guess. As noted in the article Pruitt was a player than Norv went to bat for in the draft process, they selected him before Stefon Diggs for example.
Seems interesting to bring up a 3rd QB over keeping a TE but maybe Pruitt will be back at some point when healthy.
Some cleaning house I guess. As noted in the article Pruitt was a player than Norv went to bat for in the draft process, they selected him before Stefon Diggs for example.
Seems interesting to bring up a 3rd QB over keeping a TE but maybe Pruitt will be back at some point when healthy.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Probably not and yes. McKinnon is the only RB who has the upside to be a hold.
The offensive line is not very good support for any RB right now. Not sure if they are the worst line or if it is the Rams or the Seahawks right now. But they are pretty bad at run blocking.
Donnybrook
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I don't know what the odds are but I feel I should put a few dollars on Heineke finishing out the season at QB.
Just feel like the conventional media likes to totally dismiss the 3rd string QBs. Like last year when Peyton retired - at that time there was no way on earth that Trevor Siemen would take over for him. Heineke is on the roster because someone believes in him and stranger things have happened.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Torn achilles for Jake Long. Has any team ever gone thru the type of season the Vikings have? Geez.
sports_fan
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need2know
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simsarge
Footballguy
Any chance Yary or Stringer have a few games left in them? If ever there was a team that could be labeled as snakebit...
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I don't think so simsarge. :(
I thought this was kind of interesting.
Geoff Schwartz ✔ @geoffschwartz
My agents phone is always on. I'll be ready for someone to call.
I think there was some bad blood when he left the Vikings (at the time he was playing better than Fusco) and he is available for a reason, but as Zimmer said during the press conference, there are other options available.
Zimmer seemed kind of miffed that reporters talked to Boone about possibly moving to tackle. That is another option though.
I thought this was kind of interesting.
Geoff Schwartz ✔ @geoffschwartz
My agents phone is always on. I'll be ready for someone to call.
I think there was some bad blood when he left the Vikings (at the time he was playing better than Fusco) and he is available for a reason, but as Zimmer said during the press conference, there are other options available.
Zimmer seemed kind of miffed that reporters talked to Boone about possibly moving to tackle. That is another option though.
sports_fan
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Walsh is finally gone. I haven't heard who they're bringing in
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/798567913443704832
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/798567913443704832
snogger
Footballguy
A week or two too late IMO.. But hey, maybe it will send a signal to the rest of the team.. just because we owe you money doesn't mean we are keeping your ### if you don't do your job.
mozzy84
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Agreed on the Vikings giving him every chance (to many chances actually). Personally I think the dude has just totally lost it, I am not seeing a bounce back.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Walsh was definitely an interesting situation. I'm not sure how an NFL team can best deal with what boils down to a headcase issue. Sort of reminds me of Chuck Knoblauch's insane inability to throw to first base. Personally, I think Walsh is more psychologically fragile than other NFL kickers. Watching guys kick extra points, it's very ho hum and no different than it was with the shorter kicks. I just don't think Walsh could ever redeem himself to himself, his team or the fan base after the brutal Seattle miss. He could make 30 straight and people would still be white knuckling any short playoff kick. I also agree with what Gardsie (KFAN) said, that one benefit of moving on from Walsh is starting with a clean slate. If any new kicker misses a kick it gets moved on from immediately, and doesn't have the psychological compounding effect that everyone feels when Walsh misses a kick, remembering other key kicks he missed, etc.
need2know
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How badly hurt are those defensive starters that got dinged this past week? I have been a faithful mn def owner all season but I'm starting to think the time is right to bail. 3 straight blah performances. the offense is a big reason why but they have stopped making big plays on defense too. any thoughts?
Biabreakable
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Eric Kendricks only played on 11 snaps due to leaving the game early.However he practiced in full on Friday, so hopefully he can play a bit more than that.
Chad Greenway played 92% of the snaps last week.
Captain Munnerlyn and Marcus Sherels (who did not play last week) had full practices on Friday so hopefully should be able to contribute. Newman played pretty well from the slot but Munnerlyn generally does a good job there and helps against the run pretty well.
Brian Robison maybe shouldn't be getting so many snaps and they could get Hunter more involved.
Harrison Smith has had a couple bad games now and Barr has missed a lot of tackles too. They can play much better than they have been recently.
Some credit is due to Washingtons offensive line doing a good job.
It sounds like Honey Badger won't play, so that is somewhat of a lucky break for the Vikings offense today.
Chad Greenway played 92% of the snaps last week.
Captain Munnerlyn and Marcus Sherels (who did not play last week) had full practices on Friday so hopefully should be able to contribute. Newman played pretty well from the slot but Munnerlyn generally does a good job there and helps against the run pretty well.
Brian Robison maybe shouldn't be getting so many snaps and they could get Hunter more involved.
Harrison Smith has had a couple bad games now and Barr has missed a lot of tackles too. They can play much better than they have been recently.
Some credit is due to Washingtons offensive line doing a good job.
It sounds like Honey Badger won't play, so that is somewhat of a lucky break for the Vikings offense today.
FunkyPlutos
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The defensive line hasn't been getting much pressure lately. That is the 2nd biggest problem during this losing streak (o-line being number one). It is really concerning because that is probably where the team has been the most healthy.
RenegadeGM
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ESPN's Britt McHenry reports a Vikings coach told her that Adam Thielen will be "targeted a lot this week".
Donnybrook
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I will miss Norv Turner and Blair Walsh. Both were victims of the teams lucky start. Who are going to blame when they eventually lose this one.
snogger
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simsarge
Footballguy
Great game by the DST and reminiscent of their pre-Bye games. But they definitely are benchable the next two games. Both Detroit and Dallas average single digits allowed to DSTs this year. Palmer looked bad. Real bad. I'm sure our secondary had a lot to do with it, but man he looks all but done.So very glad to have been wrong here.. A TD from the Defense and a TD from the Special Teams sure helps..
6-4 and now Thanksgiving day in Detroit for the Division lead ..
Biabreakable
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Everson Griffen was getting hits on Palmer pretty consistently. Those start adding up after awhile.simsarge said:
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Just looking at the snap counts now.
Justin Hunter played on 70% of the defensive snaps, just one less than Brian Robison.
I saw him miss a tackle on David Johnson that was there for him if he just collapses down the LOS, but maybe Johnson makes a great play with a burst to beat the angle. Not entirely sure. One of his sacks came from RDE spelling Griffen.
Chad Greenway only played on 15 snaps (20%) as Kendricks played on 69 of them (93%).
Munnerlyn played on 63 snaps (85%) and Newman only played on 22 (30%).
So the defense was primarily in the nickle the whole game and was not as effective against the run in part because of that. I saw at least one defensive snap where 3 safeties were on the field. Kearse get blocked out of the play and they had a nice run on that one.
Charles Johnson played on 13 snaps (22%) and Treadwell on 6 snaps (10%).
Zach Line played on 18 snaps. I suppose helping in pass protection, but I did not notice any of his blocks being very effective.
Adam Thielen actually had one more snap 44 (76%) than Stefon Diggs 43 (75%) Patterson played on 35 snaps (60%)
Patterson led the team in targets with 8 but he only caught 4 of them.
Kyle Rudolph missed several blocks in this game including the blocked extra point. On one of Bradford sacks I would put that on Rudolph who barely chips his guy when he needed to route the defender to the inside where Clemmings was free to pick up the block after the chip. Rudolph in too much of a hurry to get out on his pass route to bother with an effective chip on that play.
Justin Hunter played on 70% of the defensive snaps, just one less than Brian Robison.
I saw him miss a tackle on David Johnson that was there for him if he just collapses down the LOS, but maybe Johnson makes a great play with a burst to beat the angle. Not entirely sure. One of his sacks came from RDE spelling Griffen.
Chad Greenway only played on 15 snaps (20%) as Kendricks played on 69 of them (93%).
Munnerlyn played on 63 snaps (85%) and Newman only played on 22 (30%).
So the defense was primarily in the nickle the whole game and was not as effective against the run in part because of that. I saw at least one defensive snap where 3 safeties were on the field. Kearse get blocked out of the play and they had a nice run on that one.
Charles Johnson played on 13 snaps (22%) and Treadwell on 6 snaps (10%).
Zach Line played on 18 snaps. I suppose helping in pass protection, but I did not notice any of his blocks being very effective.
Adam Thielen actually had one more snap 44 (76%) than Stefon Diggs 43 (75%) Patterson played on 35 snaps (60%)
Patterson led the team in targets with 8 but he only caught 4 of them.
Kyle Rudolph missed several blocks in this game including the blocked extra point. On one of Bradford sacks I would put that on Rudolph who barely chips his guy when he needed to route the defender to the inside where Clemmings was free to pick up the block after the chip. Rudolph in too much of a hurry to get out on his pass route to bother with an effective chip on that play.
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Biabreakable
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I am pretty happy that the Vikings were able to keep Weatherly on the practice squad all this time without another team picking him up. He showed some promise in preseason as a DE and only narrowly beaten out by Trattou who was no longer eligible for the practice squad.
Cutting Hillman leaves only McKinnon and Asiata as RB on the roster. The 3rd RB would be Zach Line by default I guess.
I have to think this points towards Peterson being healthy enough to be activated soon. He is supposed to healthy enough to practice in December which will be soon. Otherwise the move doesn't make too much sense.
Cutting Hillman leaves only McKinnon and Asiata as RB on the roster. The 3rd RB would be Zach Line by default I guess.
I have to think this points towards Peterson being healthy enough to be activated soon. He is supposed to healthy enough to practice in December which will be soon. Otherwise the move doesn't make too much sense.
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rustycolts
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Anyone heard any news on Diggs?He hasn't practiced this week.Will his knee keep him out tomorrow?
jurrassic
Footballguy
He's out.
Stefon Diggs - WR - Vikings
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Stefon Diggs (knee) will likely miss Thursday's Week 12 game against the Lions.
Playing on a short week, Diggs just didn't have enough time to recover after injuring his knee Sunday against the Cardinals. It's a big blow for the Vikings. With middling receivers and no running game to speak of, Diggs has been the focal point of the team's offense all season, particularly since Pat Shumur took over as OC earlier this month. Adam Thielen will slide in as Sam Bradford's go-to target and should command WR3 status in Week 12.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Nov 23 - 4:38 PM
jurrassic
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Thinking the same. May start him over Cobb in one league and Britt/Moncrief in another
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I'm thinking thielen this week too... ppr I think he will get his. it's either that or Booker and I'm not sure I trust booker vs kc
Interseptopus
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snogger
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was just trying to keep people from being "fearful" of the offense without Diggs. They did a very good job mixing things up last time he was out.. With Thelien having a good week then and last week I expect Lions D to key on him and Rudolph.So I would not be surprised to see Patterson or someone else have a Turkey surprise
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need2know
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Or the def to win. that has gotten more wins than the offense
So I would not be surprised to see Patterson or someone else have a Turkey surprise
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I see. Idk if I agree but I guess we will see. I have skin in the game so I have an obvious bias to what I'd like to see happen!
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