jamny
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At least they'd be healthier when Bloomberg stops the smoking and large sodas in the clubhouse.
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***Official NY METS 2014 Thread*** (2 Viewers)
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Balco
Footballguy
Yeah, going to be tough when they need to add the big pieces. They are very close to that time with the young pitching + Harvey.
Fariq
Footballguy
For who?A middling hitting prospect? That's about all they could get, I figure. They are not getting any top prospect.
RBM
Footballguy
Chemical X
Footballguy
only 6 more years of 8 homer david wright, who has a sub 400 slug, lower than juan lagares.
dparker713
Footballguy
Well, the Mets are in the news again.
Fariq
Footballguy
For what? Losing 53 of their last 56 games vs Washington in New York?
Eephus
Footballguy
Harvey, Wheeler, De Grom, Syndergaard and Montero could be a very good young rotation. At least one of them will probably stink so the Mets can get their $11M worth of Bartolo Colon.
Offensively, they're just very good. D'Arnaud, Herrera and Lagares could be long-term fixtures up the middle but I don't see any as future superstars. Wright and Granderson are due some kind of dead cat bounce but I think their best years are behind them.
Offensively, they're just very good. D'Arnaud, Herrera and Lagares could be long-term fixtures up the middle but I don't see any as future superstars. Wright and Granderson are due some kind of dead cat bounce but I think their best years are behind them.
Eephus
Footballguy
Not a fan (although I have a Mets t-shirt from a giveaway night at Citi Field).
Just contributing trenchant analysis.
njherdfan
Footballguy
I don't think Montero has a future in the rotation. Niese and/or Matz will be in the rotation over Montero.
On offense, I'm assuming you meant to say "not very good" which I would I agree with. Don't forget about Duda, though. He's been excellent.
dparker713
Footballguy
Selig visited CitiField tonight and continually dodged questions about how the Mets owners were different than the Dodgers previous owners. ####### Selig.
njherdfan
Footballguy
Harvey, DeGrom, Syndegaard and Wheeler are all locks to be in the rotation next year. You think Montero's beating out Niese, Gee, Colon (if he's not traded) and Matz?
dparker713
Footballguy
Syndegaard won't be up to start the season. Maybe he gets called up after a few weeks to add a year of service time, but more likely is they wait for Super 2.njherdfan said:
Fariq
Footballguy
I think the rotation to start the year will be Harvey, Wheeler, deGrom, Colon and one guy from the Montero/Niese/Gee/other group. I can see Montero as a reliever for 2015 but only because maybe Colon is still there. I don't view him as a reliever, though. Long term, I think he is a starter. Maybe he gets traded along with either Niese or Gee for some sort of hitter.njherdfan said:
njherdfan
Footballguy
Maybe, but if that's the case I see Gee and Niese rounding out the bottom of the rotation. I think the Mets' first goal this off-season is to trade Colon for anything to save the 11 million he's owed.
Fariq
Footballguy
Gee and Niese have better trade value because of age and salaries. I think the team might as well keep Colon now and let him be the veteran presence that the young guys might need.
Didn't the Mets put him on waivers in August? Why didn't somebody trade for him? L.A. had just lost G. Richards for the season, Milwaukee was starting to fall apart, etc. Multiple teams will fail in the postseason due to ####ty starting pitching. If nobody wanted him in August when the Mets would practically give him away, I don't envision anyone trading for him in the off-season. Maybe I will turn out to be wrong.
Didn't the Mets put him on waivers in August? Why didn't somebody trade for him? L.A. had just lost G. Richards for the season, Milwaukee was starting to fall apart, etc. Multiple teams will fail in the postseason due to ####ty starting pitching. If nobody wanted him in August when the Mets would practically give him away, I don't envision anyone trading for him in the off-season. Maybe I will turn out to be wrong.
njherdfan
Footballguy
So, the Mets signed Cuddyer. I'm not sure what to take from this. Does that mean they have money? Because if they do, they should probably sign someone else since they've already given up their first round pick. I assume Cuddyer will play first against lefties, and he'll be starting a lot in the outfield, which makes me worry about the outfield defense. Juan Lagares will literally need to catch every fly ball.
So are we getting a SS or what? Pretty odd Gee is still on this roster, thought he'd be long gone. Assuming they stay healthy and Sandy makes no trades, what do they do come the start of the year? Throw Gee in the pen?
Bizarre. Too bad this Starlin Castro debacle happened, really thought they had a chance to get him/Russell and now im sure neither is possible.
Bizarre. Too bad this Starlin Castro debacle happened, really thought they had a chance to get him/Russell and now im sure neither is possible.
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Chemical X
Footballguy
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Well if the Mets were actually a legitimate NY team payroll wise and would actually spend $, then they can entice him with an extension. Everyone wants to explore FA until you flash 5 yrs 90 million in front of their eyes w/o having to worry about having a down year in your walk year. I agree though, if he wouldn't sign an extension, pass on him. All this is moot anyways as the Mets refuse to do anything of note this offseason. Sandy definitely wins the prize as "least creative GM in baseball."
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Hey Mets fans...Jesus, good luck. I can't even do it because you guys are so ####ed.
Fariq
Footballguy
I don't know what you are trying to say with that.
Koya
Footballguy
Seems like we suddenly have some good young bats in the system, too.DeGrom looked awesome today
Eephus
Footballguy
This will be a crucial year to see if Nimmo and Conforto are for realSeems like we suddenly have some good young bats in the system, too.DeGrom looked awesome today
njherdfan
Footballguy
Conforto had 3 hits today, including this opposite field double. Nimmo has moved up a level and hit well each year he's been in the system, and I expect (really want and hope for) that to continue. I don't expect either of them to contribute this season, but next year they should.This will be a crucial year to see if Nimmo and Conforto are for realSeems like we suddenly have some good young bats in the system, too.DeGrom looked awesome today
Eephus
Footballguy
Nimmo struggled in his first shot at AA. Conforto has less that 200 professional PAs. We'll all see.Conforto had 3 hits today, including this opposite field double. Nimmo has moved up a level and hit well each year he's been in the system, and I expect (really want and hope for) that to continue. I don't expect either of them to contribute this season, but next year they should.This will be a crucial year to see if Nimmo and Conforto are for realSeems like we suddenly have some good young bats in the system, too.DeGrom looked awesome today
njherdfan
Footballguy
In 2013 Nimmo played A-Ball. In 2014 he moved up to Hi-A (St. Lucie) and dominated. Then he moved up again to Bingo and his numbers declined, although his peripherals were still good. However, my point was that Nimmo has mastered 1 level in each of the last 2 years. This year he should do well in AA and move up to AAA.Nimmo struggled in his first shot at AA. Conforto has less that 200 professional PAs. We'll all see.Conforto had 3 hits today, including this opposite field double. Nimmo has moved up a level and hit well each year he's been in the system, and I expect (really want and hope for) that to continue. I don't expect either of them to contribute this season, but next year they should.This will be a crucial year to see if Nimmo and Conforto are for realSeems like we suddenly have some good young bats in the system, too.DeGrom looked awesome today
As for Conforto, I agree that there's a lot we don't know, but he dominated playing in the Pac-10 and he did well last year in Brooklyn (as he should have). I'm not writing him in as a ML star, but I do think he'll be a good hitter. I'm more excited for this year's Mets team because of their pitching, though.
njherdfan
Footballguy
Yep, that's the plan. Although I wouldn't be surprised if d'Arnaud ends up moving to LF because of his concussion history and Plawecki ends up as the catcher of the future. That's my dark-horse prediction.
Chemical X
Footballguy
worst OF in MLB. no SS. 2b incapable of turning the DP. Harvey walks as a FA in 2018, this ownership has no money to pay him.
njherdfan
Footballguy
I'm not sure if this is trolling, but assuming it's not....
1. Juan Lagares is one of the best (I think he's the best) defensive outfielders in MLB. Last year, as a totally average hitter, and playing in 116 games, he was worth 3.8 WAR. I expect at least 4.5 WAR from him this season. We'll see what happens with Granderson and Cuddyer this season, but they're far from the worst outfield.
2. In half a season, Wilmer Flores was worth 1.3 wins and was a positive defender. In a full season, that's 3 wins and he's always been a better hitter than he was last year.
3. Daniel Murphy isn't great defensively. I also wouldn't be surprised if he's traded before the deadline.
4. Anything you have to say about Matt Harvey leaving after the 2018 season is silly.
Chemical X
Footballguy
lagares is a gg defender, but is being asked to leadoff this year. he has no power, little speed and no eye. 20 walks in 500 ABs last year and he has a balky elbow to boot. sadly, catching the ball is only part of the game. but because met ownership is so broke and fans so desperate for any home brown everyday player, his many warts are overlooked.
i can understand carrying a sub par defender at SS if they have a superior bat. Wilma doesnt. sub par defenders at MI undermine the strength of this team. Murphy is the typical met farm hand that hits a bit and has no position. see jefferies, gregg, miller, keith, magadan, dave, duda, lucas.
you are right about Harvey, he is leaving 2019 as a FA when Boras grabs 30million per and the coupons are telling fans we need payroll flexibility cause Captain Wright makes too much.
WAR is a fantastic tool, but it doesnt replace your eyes. Grandy for 200 Ks this year? Cuddler also cost this team a number 1 draft pick. LOL. They cant draft anyway, so no biggie i suppose.
i can understand carrying a sub par defender at SS if they have a superior bat. Wilma doesnt. sub par defenders at MI undermine the strength of this team. Murphy is the typical met farm hand that hits a bit and has no position. see jefferies, gregg, miller, keith, magadan, dave, duda, lucas.
you are right about Harvey, he is leaving 2019 as a FA when Boras grabs 30million per and the coupons are telling fans we need payroll flexibility cause Captain Wright makes too much.
WAR is a fantastic tool, but it doesnt replace your eyes. Grandy for 200 Ks this year? Cuddler also cost this team a number 1 draft pick. LOL. They cant draft anyway, so no biggie i suppose.
