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[JAA]

The SP rejoices, ive decided to dedicate only one thread to Pat White moving forward. This thread will be the *** Official Pat White man love thread ***

I am going to break down 'The Cheif's college stats over time. This is where is starts

Rushing YEAR TEAM ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST 2005 WVU 131 952 7.3 76 7 0 0 0 2006 WVU 165 1219 7.4 69 18 0 0 0 2007 WVU 197 1335 6.8 64 14 0 0 0 2008 WVU 191 974 5.1 66 8 0 0 0 Passing YEAR TEAM CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT2005 WVU 65 114 57 828 7.3 8 50 5 132.412006 WVU 118 179 65.9 1655 9.2 13 67 7 159.732007 WVU 144 216 66.7 1724 8 14 79 4 151.392008 WVU 180 274 65.7 1844 6.7 21 52 7 142.41Wow. Aside from the passing rating, what most sticks out in my mind are the Fumbles and Long stats. In each season, White has had a rush of 64 or more yards and a pass of 50 or more yards. Id like to find TD length, as Im pretty sure there will be some wowing numbers in there. I will also start to break down these by competition (D2 vs Bowl teams) as I wouldnt want to inflate the numbers, not that I would need to.Also impressed with how passing TDs have increased over his 4 seasons. Ive read a lot about how he was coached to pass with Rod. The gist was "If you dont have your first read, tuck it and run". Hes been coached to make reads one season, and you can see how his passing TDs increased by 50% as well as attempts by more 50%. All while not losing any completion percentage. THats a lot of growth in one season.

Last season, he had a rush of at least 15 yards in every game. 2007 at least 13, 06 at least 10, and in 05 there were games he didnt play

Here are his stats in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl vs Oklahoma

2007 Postseason Game Log Passing Rushing BOWL OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TDTOSTITOS FIESTA BOWL AT GLENDALE AZ @Oklahoma W 48-28 10 19 176 52.6 9.26 79 2 0 0 119.6 20 150 7.5 42 042 yard rush, 0 INT's, 79 yard TD pass with a 120 rating. 7.5 ypc. Yes, 7.5 yards per carry versus a supposed National Championship contender in OU.Form wagon line behind me, its driver.

CHOO CHOO!!!

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NFL scout: Pat White can help Miami Dolphins revolutionize the NFL

Omar Kelly | South Florida Sun-Sentinel

1:46 PM EDT, April 28, 2009

Miami Dolphins czar Bill Parcells usually skips the Senior Bowl, but this year he wanted to see one specific player up close and personal.

For one practice in Mobile, Ala., back in January, Parcells perched himself next to his former protege, New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick. The two watched the full practice session together, exchanging chit-chat, observations and opinions.

According to two NFL scouts, most inside the NFL's scouting community concluded then and there that these two NFL heavyweights were locked in on the same prospect: West Virginia quarterback Pat White.

That's why many NFL insiders weren't surprised the Miami Dolphins used a second-round pick on White. Parcells and staff suspected they could lose White to the Patriots, who hadn't hidden their interest.

"He's no gimmick. He's dynamic. He's a little bit raw as a [quarterback] but has a good foundation. He's going to get better," one player personnel director said, admitting White was rated among the top-50 players on his team's draft board. "He wasn't going to be there in the third round."

One front-office official believes the Miami Dolphins are trying to revolutionize pro football by bringing the spread to the NFL, and he said the right player to do it in White.

"For the 30 minutes it takes to put in a Wildcat play it takes a defense a day to figure it out and work on how to stop it," former Miami Dolphins coach Jimmy Johnson told WQAM radio last week.

White's ability to not just scramble, but throw the ball with range and accuracy, will allow offensive coordinator Dan Henning and quarterback coach David Lee to add even more elements to the Wildcat offense. Lee brought the gimmicky formation with him from Arkansas.

Upon White's selection by the Dolphins, former Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden predicted the spread offense was "officially in the National Football League," and described White as "a Wildcat that can throw the football. He's an electric guy."

As for the Miami Dolphins' other selections, while one NFL assistant agreed with those draft analysts who said the Dolphins "reached" on a couple of the nine draftees -- particularly Ohio State receiver Brian Hartline, who was taken in the fourth round, and Monmouth tight end John Nalbone, the fifth-round selection -- he points out that every team has every player rated differently.

He also stresses that NFL teams annually invest as much as $5 million into scouting college players with the goal of making the best "educated projections." Some of those guesses are on point, and some of them are "way off," he said.

Among the handful of executives, coaches and scouts contacted, most felt the Miami Dolphins' 2009 haul featured two of the draft's elite cornerbacks in first-round pick Vontae Davis, and Sean Smith, the second-rounder from Utah, who were both described as big, athletic and physical.

"They are both physical and going to tackle. Just like Parcells likes [them]," an NFC scout said. "Both are no punks."

 

[Bankerguy]

I just don't see it.

:35yearoldschoolfootballfanhere:

 

[MSULions]

ask Rich Rodriguez how well the spread transfers to a league with fast hard hitting defenses....it may work in the Big East or the WAC, but in a real league? no way no how....and it will work even less in the NFL where every team is full of hard hitting and fast d players that will eat guys like Pat White alive.

it's a gimmick...and gimmicks have never revolutionized anything.

 

[JAA]

ask Rich Rodriguez how well the spread transfers to a league with fast hard hitting defenses....it may work in the Big East or the WAC, but in a real league? no way no how....and it will work even less in the NFL where every team is full of hard hitting and fast d players that will eat guys like Pat White alive. it's a gimmick...and gimmicks have never revolutionized anything.

Urban Meyer and the Wildcat down?

 

[Max Power]

ask Rich Rodriguez how well the spread transfers to a league with fast hard hitting defenses....it may work in the Big East or the WAC, but in a real league? no way no how....and it will work even less in the NFL where every team is full of hard hitting and fast d players that will eat guys like Pat White alive. it's a gimmick...and gimmicks have never revolutionized anything.

Michigan needs some talent first.I also think the term Gimmick is being over-used here. If the formation scores points on a regular basis, its not really a gimmick

 

[=Smackdown=]

Pat White was a Parcells pick all the way. Parcells was in love with Pat White before game 3 against the Pats last season.

Charley Casserly, who considers Parcells his best friend, said that Parcells told him a year ago that if Pat White was there with the first 2nd round pick, that he would pick him. Parcells is in love with the kid and thinks he is everything a football player should be. A leader, a winner, smart, disciplined (no fumbles on 650 rushes). As per Charley Casserly, who again, considers Parcells his best friend.

The guy who works on Monday night countdown echoed that sentiment on his blog right after the pick. He said Parcells asked him for Arkansas gametapes when Parcells was out of football while he was working Monday night countdown. Parcells saw the gametapes and was fascinated with the Wildcat formations. Then when Parcells becomes Miami's president, he immediately hires David Lee from Arkansas, the founder of the wildcat there.

Don't know if the Wildcat is going to work but it is going to be fun to watch.

 

[Zoomanji]

ask Rich Rodriguez how well the spread transfers to a league with fast hard hitting defenses....it may work in the Big East or the WAC, but in a real league? no way no how....and it will work even less in the NFL where every team is full of hard hitting and fast d players that will eat guys like Pat White alive. it's a gimmick...and gimmicks have never revolutionized anything.

Urban Meyer and the Wildcat down?

Superbowl wins for them?How about ZeroIts a gimmick

 

[eric rymer]

ask Rich Rodriguez how well the spread transfers to a league with fast hard hitting defenses....it may work in the Big East or the WAC, but in a real league? no way no how....and it will work even less in the NFL where every team is full of hard hitting and fast d players that will eat guys like Pat White alive.

it's a gimmick...and gimmicks have never revolutionized anything.

Michigan needs some talent first.I also think the term Gimmick is being over-used here. If the formation scores points on a regular basis, its not really a gimmick

This is the key right there. Believe me I can't stand the Wolverines, but they do not have the personnel to run the spread effectively. Give they 3 years and revisit this same thought. It's like asking Texas Tech to line up in a goal line set and run smashmouth style football.

 

[Chreesto]

ask Rich Rodriguez how well the spread transfers to a league with fast hard hitting defenses....it may work in the Big East or the WAC, but in a real league? no way no how....and it will work even less in the NFL where every team is full of hard hitting and fast d players that will eat guys like Pat White alive. it's a gimmick...and gimmicks have never revolutionized anything.

While I agree with most of what you're saying people called the forward pass a gimmick in the first part of the twentieth century, if anyone can do this it's Parcells.

 

[EBF]

The last guys who were supposed to "revolutionize the NFL":

- Mike Vick

- Reggie Bush

- Vince Young

 

[pollardsvision]

ask Rich Rodriguez how well the spread transfers to a league with fast hard hitting defenses....it may work in the Big East or the WAC, but in a real league? no way no how....and it will work even less in the NFL where every team is full of hard hitting and fast d players that will eat guys like Pat White alive. it's a gimmick...and gimmicks have never revolutionized anything.

Urban Meyer and the Wildcat down?

Superbowl wins for them?How about ZeroIts a gimmick

I think that was in response to MSULions explaining that the spread offense doesn't work in leagues with fast, hard hitting defenses. He seemed to imply that the Big Ten has fast, hard hitting defenses (strange, I know).Urban Meyer was just given as an example of the spread offense working against actual fast, hard hitting defenses.

 

[Adebisi]

Pat White was a Parcells pick all the way. Parcells was in love with Pat White before game 3 against the Pats last season.

Charley Casserly, who considers Parcells his best friend, said that Parcells told him a year ago that if Pat White was there with the first 2nd round pick, that he would pick him. Parcells is in love with the kid and thinks he is everything a football player should be. A leader, a winner, smart, disciplined (no fumbles on 650 rushes). As per Charley Casserly, who again, considers Parcells his best friend.

The guy who works on Monday night countdown echoed that sentiment on his blog right after the pick. He said Parcells asked him for Arkansas gametapes when Parcells was out of football while he was working Monday night countdown. Parcells saw the gametapes and was fascinated with the Wildcat formations. Then when Parcells becomes Miami's president, he immediately hires David Lee from Arkansas, the founder of the wildcat there.

Don't know if the Wildcat is going to work but it is going to be fun to watch.

Between grown men having "best friends" and grown men being "in love with" other men, this is just a bizarre post all around.

 

[lyon812]

The last guys who were supposed to "revolutionize the NFL": - Mike Vick- Reggie Bush- Vince Young

While it might not be revolutionary, to a point, the Saints usage of Bush as a RB/WR hybrid has been somewhat unique, to the point that people regularly talk about "using [someone] like Reggie Bush", or playing a "Reggie Bush-like role", etc. Thus, it's entirely possible that Parcells can brainstorm unique usages for Pat White--even if it doesn't mean implementing some astonishing, revolutionary offense. As someone said before, if anyone could pull it off, it's Parcells. However, I've been nothing but impressed with White, as well. I've gotten the impression he's vastly different than Vick and Young--in a good way.

 

[bjabrad]

ask Rich Rodriguez how well the spread transfers to a league with fast hard hitting defenses....it may work in the Big East or the WAC, but in a real league? no way no how....and it will work even less in the NFL where every team is full of hard hitting and fast d players that will eat guys like Pat White alive. it's a gimmick...and gimmicks have never revolutionized anything.

Urban Meyer and the Wildcat down?

Superbowl wins for them?How about ZeroIts a gimmick

Dang, the Wildcat has only been used by one team for one year in the NFL. By your logic, there were 30 teams in the NFL that failed to win a superbowl last year with a conventional offense.

 

[RockHard]

Steve Young, who will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame this summer, has long told me that one of these days there will be a football player so unique, so gifted and so different that he will cause some consternation among the NFL types who judge and coach the most talented football players in the world. "And it's going to be up to those people, especially some offensive coordinator, to think outside the box and figure out what to do with a guy like that," Young said. He didn't know it at the time, but Young was talking about someone available in the 2005 NFL draft -- a guy I believe is the best player in the draft. Matt Jones is that player. Yes, the Arkansas quarterback NFL evaluators have been struggling to figure out. Some have called him the most "intriguing" player in the draft. Or, as one personnel director asked me last week, "How's The Freak?"

“Matt Jones won't be among the top-10 players selected in the April 23-24 draft, but I will venture to say that he'll play in more Pro Bowls than almost any of those guys. And I will laugh, knowing I told you so.”

Chris Mortensen on Matt Jones

 

[Ministry of Pain]

WHat's the over/under on the number of Pat WHite threads JAA starts in 2009 and beyond...he has 2 already and we are barely 3 days removed form the draft...wait till OTAs and Minicamps start.

 

[Chunky Soup]

The last guys who were supposed to "revolutionize the NFL": - Mike Vick- Reggie Bush- Vince Young

You forgot Chris Johnson on this list who seems to be quite revolutionary these days.

 

[Native]

ask Rich Rodriguez how well the spread transfers to a league with fast hard hitting defenses....it may work in the Big East or the WAC, but in a real league? no way no how....and it will work even less in the NFL where every team is full of hard hitting and fast d players that will eat guys like Pat White alive.

it's a gimmick...and gimmicks have never revolutionized anything.

1. It sure didn't seem like a gimmick when Pat White and WV punched Georgia in the mouth in the Sugar Bowl. Or when they punched Oklahoma in the mouth at the Fiesta Bowl. 2. People fail to realize that Parcels and the Dolphins will still be a smash-mouth football team with Ronnie Brown and that OL. They will simply incorporate wildcat packages into their playcalling - just like the Giants substituted big Brandon Jacobs for shifty Derrick Ward and Ahmad Bradshaw.

 

[massraider]

I don't think anyone is talking about installing the spread as a stand-alone offense in the league.

But I can certainly see the Fins designing a set of plays for a drive, or for one series, that gives their opponents a ton to think about.

Don't get caught up on one guy saying 'revolutionize'.

 

[Raider Nation]

Did that nutty mohawk'd hammerhead FB who played with White at WVU ever get drafted? I forget his name.

 

[massraider]

Did that nutty mohawk'd hammerhead FB who played with White at WVU ever get drafted? I forget his name.

Seahawks. Owen Scmitt.

 

[Raider Nation]

Did that nutty mohawk'd hammerhead FB who played with White at WVU ever get drafted? I forget his name.

Seahawks. Owen Scmitt.

thanks

 

[JaYz0618]

I dont think that the Fins are going to go completely to the wildcat and use the gimmick plays all the time.

They say they drafted him as their starting qb of the future.

Time will tell, regardless of how you feel about Parcells, the man knows football.

 

[kremenull]

The last guys who were supposed to "revolutionize the NFL": - Mike Vick- Reggie Bush- Vince Young

And the next guy to truly revolutionize the game and take this spread offense to the ultimate level.....and become a superstar QB using many elements of the spread as well as traditional dropbacks will be............Terrelle Pryor.........Booooook It!!

 

[Football Jones]

I don't know about revolutionizing NFL offenses, but you can't tell me the Wildcat formation with its run/pass options isn't a nightmare for defenses (assuming the right personnel). However, I doubt it will ever be anybody's base offense because of the punishment the QB takes. That said, I could see it beng extremely successful as a special package.

Not sure about the Wildcat QB as far as FF is concerned. I just don't think White & other Wildcat QBs will get enough playing time to produce on a consistent basis (strictly as a Wildcat). I do believe White has at least a shot to make it as a starter, tho (down the road).

 

[Adebisi]

I dont think that the Fins are going to go completely to the wildcat...

...I doubt it will ever be anybody's base offense...

Are you guys sure you want to put yourselves out there with such bold predictions?

 

[Football Jones]

I dont think that the Fins are going to go completely to the wildcat...

...I doubt it will ever be anybody's base offense...

Are you guys sure you want to put yourselves out there with such bold predictions?

It might be stating the obvious, LOL, but keep in mind people couldn't see past the Single-Wing offense at one time (which is the forerunner of today's spread offense & the Wildcat formation). I wouldn't be so sure of yourself.

 

[Zigg]

They should draft Tebow next year.

 

[MSULions]

ask Rich Rodriguez how well the spread transfers to a league with fast hard hitting defenses....it may work in the Big East or the WAC, but in a real league? no way no how....and it will work even less in the NFL where every team is full of hard hitting and fast d players that will eat guys like Pat White alive.

it's a gimmick...and gimmicks have never revolutionized anything.

Michigan needs some talent first.I also think the term Gimmick is being over-used here. If the formation scores points on a regular basis, its not really a gimmick

This is the key right there. Believe me I can't stand the Wolverines, but they do not have the personnel to run the spread effectively. Give they 3 years and revisit this same thought. It's like asking Texas Tech to line up in a goal line set and run smashmouth style football.

U of M has top 10 classes every single year and is loaded with 4 and 5 star talent. their defense was worse than their offense under rodriguez. his system may work against lighter competition, but in the Big Ten it's never going to work. Indiana is trying to do it as well...and it ain't working there either. It's not a talent issue....it's a gimmick, plain and simple. and once it's figured out it simply won't work at the NFL level. You can crack on the Big Ten all you want, but the fact remains they play pretty damned good defense and are loaded with big hitters. RichRod's class of 5'8" 165 "athletes" are going to get KILLED in the Big Ten...look at little Sam McGuffie. He had as many concussions as he had carries the second half of the season!

 

[Kirby]

ask Rich Rodriguez how well the spread transfers to a league with fast hard hitting defenses....it may work in the Big East or the WAC, but in a real league? no way no how....and it will work even less in the NFL where every team is full of hard hitting and fast d players that will eat guys like Pat White alive.

it's a gimmick...and gimmicks have never revolutionized anything.

Michigan needs some talent first.I also think the term Gimmick is being over-used here. If the formation scores points on a regular basis, its not really a gimmick

This is the key right there. Believe me I can't stand the Wolverines, but they do not have the personnel to run the spread effectively. Give they 3 years and revisit this same thought. It's like asking Texas Tech to line up in a goal line set and run smashmouth style football.

U of M has top 10 classes every single year and is loaded with 4 and 5 star talent. their defense was worse than their offense under rodriguez. his system may work against lighter competition, but in the Big Ten it's never going to work. Indiana is trying to do it as well...and it ain't working there either. It's not a talent issue....it's a gimmick, plain and simple. and once it's figured out it simply won't work at the NFL level. You can crack on the Big Ten all you want, but the fact remains they play pretty damned good defense and are loaded with big hitters. RichRod's class of 5'8" 165 "athletes" are going to get KILLED in the Big Ten...look at little Sam McGuffie. He had as many concussions as he had carries the second half of the season!

Last year was a talent issue. Michigan had a 5.4 40 QB that couldn't hit the broad side of a barn trying to run the spread.

 

[Tanner9919]

The last guys who were supposed to "revolutionize the NFL":

- Mike Vick

- Reggie Bush

- Vince Young

I never heard anyone say Reggie Bush is/was going to revolutionize the NFL, in fact, all I ever heard was how he was a carbon-copy of a former player, i.e., Gale Sayers.Vince Young was never touted as a guy to `revolutionize` football, he was considered another Steve Young/D. McNabb type of scrambling QB, same with Vick..

guys who successfully revolutionized the NFL:

Don Coryell

Bill Walsh

Buddy Ryan

Lawrence Taylor

Fran Tarkenton

Mike Ditka

Jerry Rice

Deacon Jones

people used to think Don "Air" Coryell's offense was a 'gimmick'

same with the 'west coast offense' that Bill Walsh ran

same with a pass-catching TE like Ditka.

or the '46' defense , or a pass-rushing outside LB like LT, or a scrambling/mobile QB like Tarkenton...

 

[Two Deep]

Wasn't Kordell Stewart suppose to revolutionize the NFL?

 

[kremenull]

They should draft Tebow next year.

I have heard some talk of him (Tebow) making a strong move up the draft rankings lately......Somebody may take this guy in the early 1st.....I would not be surprised, especially if the Wildcat formation spreads like wildfire this year across the NFL, which is quite possible

 

[JAA]

ask Rich Rodriguez how well the spread transfers to a league with fast hard hitting defenses....it may work in the Big East or the WAC, but in a real league? no way no how....and it will work even less in the NFL where every team is full of hard hitting and fast d players that will eat guys like Pat White alive. it's a gimmick...and gimmicks have never revolutionized anything.

Urban Meyer and the Wildcat down?

Superbowl wins for them?How about ZeroIts a gimmick

Bowl Wins for Pat White?......Only NCAA QB to start and win 4 Bowl games

 

[JAA]

Steve Young, who will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame this summer, has long told me that one of these days there will be a football player so unique, so gifted and so different that he will cause some consternation among the NFL types who judge and coach the most talented football players in the world. "And it's going to be up to those people, especially some offensive coordinator, to think outside the box and figure out what to do with a guy like that," Young said. He didn't know it at the time, but Young was talking about someone available in the 2005 NFL draft -- a guy I believe is the best player in the draft. Matt Jones is that player. Yes, the Arkansas quarterback NFL evaluators have been struggling to figure out. Some have called him the most "intriguing" player in the draft. Or, as one personnel director asked me last week, "How's The Freak?"

“Matt Jones won't be among the top-10 players selected in the April 23-24 draft, but I will venture to say that he'll play in more Pro Bowls than almost any of those guys. And I will laugh, knowing I told you so.”

Chris Mortensen on Matt Jones

I dont think anyone ever doubted the talent of Matt Jones. I mean ... thats what this quote is talking about right? His talent?

 

[JAA]

WHat's the over/under on the number of Pat WHite threads JAA starts in 2009 and beyond...he has 2 already and we are barely 3 days removed form the draft...wait till OTAs and Minicamps start.

o/u 14 prior to start of the NFL season

 

[JAA]

Did that nutty mohawk'd hammerhead FB who played with White at WVU ever get drafted? I forget his name.

Starting FB for Seattle

 

[JAA]

It's not a talent issue....it's a gimmick, plain and simple. and once it's figured out it simply won't work at the NFL level. You can crack on the Big Ten all you want, but the fact remains they play pretty damned good defense and are loaded with big hitters. RichRod's class of 5'8" 165 "athletes" are going to get KILLED in the Big Ten...look at little Sam McGuffie. He had as many concussions as he had carries the second half of the season!

What part of Urban Meyer OWNING the Big11 do you fail to comprehend? You know Florida runs a 'gimmick' offense right?reading comprehension down?

 

[JAA]

at least I didnt start a new thread ...

With Pat White in tow, Dolphins ready for 'next level of Wildcat'

The Dolphins say they'll allow rookie Pat White to compete for the quarterback job, but his biggest impact might be felt in the team's Wildcat formation.

By Jim Corbett, USA TODAY

Pat White can't wait to bring a wilder passing dynamic to the Wildcat formation popularized by the Miami Dolphins, who hope to unveil a more entertaining 2.0 version of last season's hottest NFL offensive trend.

It figures that the Dolphins would take a second-round draft flier on the West Virginia quarterback with game-changing flex appeal. White threw for 6,049 yards and ran for 4,480 more, setting the NCAA record for career rushing yards by a quarterback.

South Florida reporters have already renamed Miami's direct-snap-to-a-running-back formation "The WildPat" in anticipation of arguably this draft's most dynamic multidimensional threat.

How does that nickname resonate with the 44th overall selection?

"It sounds like I might have to step up and make some plays," White said by phone from his Daphne, Ala., home. "They gave me the shot to play the position I love playing."

When he got the call from Dolphins brass Saturday, White could only make out every other word above the din from 20 family members and friends celebrating his selection. White heard enough to know he'll get to chase his dream of someday becoming a full-time starting quarterback.

"God's really blessed my brother," says Bo White, the wide receivers coach at Ohio's Bluffton University. "Pat's coming along at the right time to expand on what they're doing with the Wildcat."

White is an accurate left-handed passer with darting elusiveness to keep defenses on their heels. He threw for 56 career touchdowns, completing 64.8% of his passes, and ran for 47 scores.

"Pat White is the next level of the Wildcat," NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock says. "The defensive answer to the Wildcat last year was to take the safety out of the hole.

"Now you take a guy who can also throw the football like an NFL quarterback and who can also run the option. That means the safety is in the box and your cornerbacks are one-on-one with no deep help.

"Anytime there's a play-action fake, Pat White will have the ability to throw the ball and beat one-on-one coverage on the outside."

But Mayock says it would be wrong to pigeonhole White as a Wildcat wild card.

Despite lacking prototypical quarterback size at 6-0, 206 pounds, White creates passing lanes with his quick feet and is accurate on the move.

"I believe this kid can be an NFL quarterback full time down the road, and he's going to compete with (current Dolphins backup quarterback) Chad Henne in the future and might even beat him out," Mayock says.

Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin approached White's father, James, after his son's March 12 pro day workout. None of the 25 teams requested a post-workout receiver audition after White was done flashing his passing skills.

"Mike Tomlin came up to me and said, 'They didn't ask (New Orleans Saints Pro Bowl quarterback) Drew Brees to work out at receiver,' " James White said. "Pat's a quarterback."

Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland said White will compete in training camp against veteran incumbent Chad Pennington and second-year player Henne.

White adds multiple options as a quarterback-tailback or slot receiver compared to running back Ronnie Brown, who ignited last year's trend by taking direct snaps with Pennington spread out wide in a season-turning, Week 3 win at the New England Patriots.

Quarterbacks coach David Lee met with White at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., where White emerged as the game's MVP. Ireland was at White's scouting combine throwing showcase, where some considered him more impressive than former Southern California quarterback Mark Sanchez, who was the fifth overall pick by the New York Jets.

Former NFL quarterback Jim Miller was with the Steelers in the mid-1990s when Kordell Stewart was nicknamed "Slash" for his versatility before stepping in as starting quarterback from 1997 to 2002.

"Now you have a guy that is a legitimate quarterback in the Wildcat, and that stresses a defense out," said Miller, now a Sirius Radio analyst. "In one week's time, it's tough as a defender to get ready for a guy as dynamic as Pat White."

White was 34-8 at West Virginia, where the two-time Heisman Trophy finalist won four bowl games.

"Pat White is a winner," said West Virginia coach Bill Stewart, who added White is faster than former Mountaineers running back Steve Slaton, who had 1,282 rushing yards as a rookie for the Houston Texans in 2008.

"When I talked to Mike Tomlin at Patrick's pro day, I said, 'Michael, he's not going to come in and beat Ben Roethlisberger out. But put him in a game and tell me he won't drive a defensive coordinator crazy.'

"This kid in a Wildcat? This kid is a good quarterback."

There is one potential downside. White's dad grew up a Steelers fan and will be rooting for his son in every game — except the Dolphins' regular-season finale against Tomlin's reigning Super Bowl champions

 

[Da Guru]

Maybe the NFL will turn into a multi-QB situation league. The wildcat would be more effective if the person receiving the snap could be a threat to throw the ball as well.

 

[Two Deep]

We get it JAA you've got a rock for this guy. Hairyscotsman was huge on Vince Young and we all saw how that worked out. Again let these guys play a couple of years before blowing a load.

 

[LHUCKS]

Is this kind of like when Mike Vick, Vince Young and Kordell Stewart were going to "revolutionize" the game?

I wonder where all the VY apologists are now?

 

[switz]

Between grown men having "best friends" and grown men being "in love with" other men, this is just a bizarre post all around.

You sound lonely, and bitter about being lonely.

 

[JAA]

Is this kind of like when Mike Vick, Vince Young and Kordell Stewart were going to "revolutionize" the game?I wonder where all the VY apologists are now?

I always thought VY was going to suck in the NFL. Having watched him play, I never thought he had the 'it' factor. Ive watched a lot of Pat White (since Im a homer). He has the 'it' factor.

 

[thadonkey]

Look guys, it's as simple as this: You know those Wildcat plays that Ronnie Brown ran (with Ricky at RB) for MIA last year? Well Pat White will be running those plays from now on, with Ronnie Brown at RB in the formation. And they will be running more of these plays than they ran last year, and Pat White will do some passing out of this formation, as well, making it harder to defend.

 

[Two Deep]

Is this kind of like when Mike Vick, Vince Young and Kordell Stewart were going to "revolutionize" the game?I wonder where all the VY apologists are now?

I always thought VY was going to suck in the NFL. Having watched him play, I never thought he had the 'it' factor. Ive watched a lot of Pat White (since Im a homer). He has the 'it' factor.

What exactly is your definition of the "IT Factor"? I don't see how he is any different than Michael Vick. He is raw at best as a passing QB so he will be inclined to run first. Things will break down a little and he will break the pocket and run. They will no doubt use him in the Wildcat formation, until it is rendered ineffective or he gets busted up. But IMO he will not play the pure QB position

 

[fissure man]

LOL @ people doubting the Wildcat formation. I don't think it will revolutionize the NFL. But there will be a lot of teams experimenting with it.

It's an incredibly difficult offense to defend.

 

[trader jake]

NFL scout: Pat White can help Miami Dolphins revolutionize the NFL

The next ultimate weapon!!! [tecmo] QB DOLPHINS [/tecmo]

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Pat White might be a good NFL player someday, but if any team truly believed Pat White would "revolutionize" the NFL he wouldn't have lasted until the 44th pick of a weak draft class.

 

[JAA]

Is this kind of like when Mike Vick, Vince Young and Kordell Stewart were going to "revolutionize" the game?I wonder where all the VY apologists are now?

I always thought VY was going to suck in the NFL. Having watched him play, I never thought he had the 'it' factor. Ive watched a lot of Pat White (since Im a homer). He has the 'it' factor.

What exactly is your definition of the "IT Factor"? I don't see how he is any different than Michael Vick. He is raw at best as a passing QB so he will be inclined to run first. Things will break down a little and he will break the pocket and run. They will no doubt use him in the Wildcat formation, until it is rendered ineffective or he gets busted up. But IMO he will not play the pure QB position

I never liked how VY ran an offense nor how he handled the pocket. Hes one heck of an athlete, but I never saw the poise I would have expected.Vick is strange. It always seemed he was moving too fast for everyone around him. I thought he would make a good QB. I didnt watch enough of him in the NFL to see how that turned out. Vick certainly put butts in the seats in Atl.I compare White's pocket presence to BigBen. I looked at quite a bit of film on Ben, and was always impressed with how he ran an offense. Never startled, always leading. He is my best comparision to White.