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***Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread*** - Castellanos ****s wit Philly (1 Viewer)

Random number combination time:

I show that only 2 other players have 2000 career H, 500 2b, 100 3B, 200 HR, 1300 R and 400 SB.

They are Johnny Damon and Paul Molitor.

His 2007 season really was pretty incredible.

 
Read somewhere today, since Amaro took over the team, after their 2008 World Series win, they have gotten worse every single year. Haven't double checked to see how true this is, but here I what I read

2008 WS Champs

2009 WS Losers

2010 NLCS Losers

2011 NLDS Losers

2012 .500 Winning %

2013 .451 Winning %

2014 .439 Winning %

 
It's true and he's certainly ####ed things up the past 2-3 years, but to be fair, they had as good of a chance as anyone to win it all in 2010 and 2011.

They had a couple tough playoff series those years, especially in 2011, both times losing to the eventual WS champion.

 
Read somewhere today, since Amaro took over the team, after their 2008 World Series win, they have gotten worse every single year. Haven't double checked to see how true this is, but here I what I read

2008 WS Champs

2009 WS Losers

2010 NLCS Losers

2011 NLDS Losers

2012 .500 Winning %

2013 .451 Winning %

2014 .439 Winning %
I'm sensing a trend.

 
RAJ also made a comment where he just couldn't understand why Schmidt and JRoll had the same number of hits and same BA but Schmidt had 1000 more plate appearances. Not sure if he was just joking or had a brain fart but it's hard to give him the benefit of the doubt at this point.

 
They'll never break this team up with this division. Hell we might as well go for it when Wash is leading it and they're only 3 games above .500.

 
Read somewhere today, since Amaro took over the team, after their 2008 World Series win, they have gotten worse every single year. Haven't double checked to see how true this is, but here I what I read

2008 WS Champs

2009 WS Losers

2010 NLCS Losers

2011 NLDS Losers

2012 .500 Winning %

2013 .451 Winning %

2014 .439 Winning %
No - this is 100% correct.

:bag:

 
And Papeldoosh blows it. Typical.
To be fair, outside of the Braves BS and the first one of the season, he's been very solid this season. It's just completely unnecessary for a team the shape that the Phillies are in to have spent the money they did on a closer when the team is barely treading water. That's a win-now piece, this team being the polar opposite of that.

 
I just saw that Cuban OFer Yasmani Torras defected from Cuba and it will only be a matter of time before he's a MLB FA. Apparently he has "70 raw power on the 20-80 scale" and he's 23. Why does it suck already knowing we will be no where to be found in the bidding for his services?

 
I just saw that Cuban OFer Yasmani Torras defected from Cuba and it will only be a matter of time before he's a MLB FA. Apparently he has "70 raw power on the 20-80 scale" and he's 23. Why does it suck already knowing we will be no where to be found in the bidding for his services?
Face it...Phils are going to be bad for a long time. They're the NY Mets of early 2000's, with heavy, back-loaded contracts for aging players...tough to trade those types of players/contracts, so the Phils will have to eat a lot of $$ over the next 3-5 years.

$180 million payroll in 2014 and Kyle Kendrick ($7.5 million) is the only player guaranteed to not be signed into 2015... Rollins might go, but somebody has to need an aging SS pretty badly to pay him $16 million for 1.5 years of average baseball (unless the Phils pick up a lot of that $$) AND trade away players in the process.

Regarding the Cuban defector...the Mets have both the money and the need to sign him, so at least you might get to see him play at CBP!

 
I really hope Lee can come back and show a few really good starts and he could be traded.

I didn't want to do that before, but now I think it's the best thing, assuming that they can unload the full contract. I don't think it's so bad now if a bigger market team would take it.

Utley and Rollins seem very tradeable if they will agree.

 
Eephus said:
Where else would Grady Sizemore turn up?
Normally I would mock such a move too, but when your starting CF is Ben Revere, it doesnt seem like such a bad alternative.

PS - Angels are looking for a closer and/or LHP. Paps and Bastardo?

 
Eephus said:
Where else would Grady Sizemore turn up?
Normally I would mock such a move too, but when your starting CF is Ben Revere, it doesnt seem like such a bad alternative.

PS - Angels are looking for a closer and/or LHP. Paps and Bastardo?
Maybe the Phillies can get Raul Ibanez back? The Angels just waived him a couple of days ago.

 
Team is a mess and RAJ saying he wants a quick rebuild or it wouldn't be fair to the fans. You know what isn't fair to us, this garbage.

Apart from Asche, does this team have one guy on the field who will be there in 3-4 years? And I like Asche but not sure he is an everyday 3B but he should get every opportunity. Figures, we finally get a decent bullpen and everything else falls apart.

A 2-4 year rebuild is better than perpetual .500 ball or worse.

 
Team is a mess and RAJ saying he wants a quick rebuild or it wouldn't be fair to the fans. You know what isn't fair to us, this garbage.

Apart from Asche, does this team have one guy on the field who will be there in 3-4 years? And I like Asche but not sure he is an everyday 3B but he should get every opportunity. Figures, we finally get a decent bullpen and everything else falls apart.

A 2-4 year rebuild is better than perpetual .500 ball or worse.
That's reason #1 he should be fired, he doesn't see/get how long a MLB total re-build takes. I'd say a good/solid 5+ years. Nationals are a good example, terrible when we were good during the 08-11 run, but slowly accumulated pieces that are putting them into contention today.

That said, his misunderstanding of how a MLB ground-up rebuild works and how long it takes means to me that he will miss on moves that need to be made like pronto with the pieces we can still salvage off to get higher-end minor league prospects from contenders. This is, of course, to replace all of the higher end prospects we no longer have in our farm as a result of his trades.

 
Team is a mess and RAJ saying he wants a quick rebuild or it wouldn't be fair to the fans. You know what isn't fair to us, this garbage.

Apart from Asche, does this team have one guy on the field who will be there in 3-4 years? And I like Asche but not sure he is an everyday 3B but he should get every opportunity. Figures, we finally get a decent bullpen and everything else falls apart.

A 2-4 year rebuild is better than perpetual .500 ball or worse.
That's reason #1 he should be fired, he doesn't see/get how long a MLB total re-build takes. I'd say a good/solid 5+ years. Nationals are a good example, terrible when we were good during the 08-11 run, but slowly accumulated pieces that are putting them into contention today.

That said, his misunderstanding of how a MLB ground-up rebuild works and how long it takes means to me that he will miss on moves that need to be made like pronto with the pieces we can still salvage off to get higher-end minor league prospects from contenders. This is, of course, to replace all of the higher end prospects we no longer have in our farm as a result of his trades.
Rebuilding an organization involves a lot of behind the scenes work in scouting and player development. It's not like the NBA where tanking for the #1 draft pick is a viable strategy for turning a team around. I reserve the right to reassess my opinion if the Astros are successful but I think they've been doing a whole lot more than just drafting guys and waiting for them to become big leaguers.

 
Team is a mess and RAJ saying he wants a quick rebuild or it wouldn't be fair to the fans. You know what isn't fair to us, this garbage.

Apart from Asche, does this team have one guy on the field who will be there in 3-4 years? And I like Asche but not sure he is an everyday 3B but he should get every opportunity. Figures, we finally get a decent bullpen and everything else falls apart.

A 2-4 year rebuild is better than perpetual .500 ball or worse.
That's reason #1 he should be fired, he doesn't see/get how long a MLB total re-build takes. I'd say a good/solid 5+ years. Nationals are a good example, terrible when we were good during the 08-11 run, but slowly accumulated pieces that are putting them into contention today.

That said, his misunderstanding of how a MLB ground-up rebuild works and how long it takes means to me that he will miss on moves that need to be made like pronto with the pieces we can still salvage off to get higher-end minor league prospects from contenders. This is, of course, to replace all of the higher end prospects we no longer have in our farm as a result of his trades.
Rebuilding an organization involves a lot of behind the scenes work in scouting and player development. It's not like the NBA where tanking for the #1 draft pick is a viable strategy for turning a team around. I reserve the right to reassess my opinion if the Astros are successful but I think they've been doing a whole lot more than just drafting guys and waiting for them to become big leaguers.
In your opinion who should we move at the deadline to help this process along? Burnett, Utley, Revere, Byrd, Brown, Kendrick, Paplebon?

 
Team is a mess and RAJ saying he wants a quick rebuild or it wouldn't be fair to the fans. You know what isn't fair to us, this garbage.

Apart from Asche, does this team have one guy on the field who will be there in 3-4 years? And I like Asche but not sure he is an everyday 3B but he should get every opportunity. Figures, we finally get a decent bullpen and everything else falls apart.

A 2-4 year rebuild is better than perpetual .500 ball or worse.
That's reason #1 he should be fired, he doesn't see/get how long a MLB total re-build takes. I'd say a good/solid 5+ years. Nationals are a good example, terrible when we were good during the 08-11 run, but slowly accumulated pieces that are putting them into contention today.

That said, his misunderstanding of how a MLB ground-up rebuild works and how long it takes means to me that he will miss on moves that need to be made like pronto with the pieces we can still salvage off to get higher-end minor league prospects from contenders. This is, of course, to replace all of the higher end prospects we no longer have in our farm as a result of his trades.
Rebuilding an organization involves a lot of behind the scenes work in scouting and player development. It's not like the NBA where tanking for the #1 draft pick is a viable strategy for turning a team around. I reserve the right to reassess my opinion if the Astros are successful but I think they've been doing a whole lot more than just drafting guys and waiting for them to become big leaguers.
In your opinion who should we move at the deadline to help this process along? Burnett, Utley, Revere, Byrd, Brown, Kendrick, Paplebon?
The problem is their market-rate and underpriced assets aren't very good, and their overpriced assets aren't very good either. If you can find a taker for Lee, Papelbon, Kendrick, Utley, Rollins, Byrd, Burnett or Ruiz, I think you might as well blow it up. None of them will bring much in return though. I won't even mention Ryan Howard.

I'd hold Revere and Brown because they're cheap and you have to put nine players on the field. They really should have traded Brown when he had his career month last year but I can certainly understand why they didn't.

 
Team is a mess and RAJ saying he wants a quick rebuild or it wouldn't be fair to the fans. You know what isn't fair to us, this garbage.

Apart from Asche, does this team have one guy on the field who will be there in 3-4 years? And I like Asche but not sure he is an everyday 3B but he should get every opportunity. Figures, we finally get a decent bullpen and everything else falls apart.

A 2-4 year rebuild is better than perpetual .500 ball or worse.
This is, of course, to replace all of the higher end prospects we no longer have in our farm.
What's this now?

I can't believe that we don't have Lou marson!

 
Team is a mess and RAJ saying he wants a quick rebuild or it wouldn't be fair to the fans. You know what isn't fair to us, this garbage.

Apart from Asche, does this team have one guy on the field who will be there in 3-4 years? And I like Asche but not sure he is an everyday 3B but he should get every opportunity. Figures, we finally get a decent bullpen and everything else falls apart.

A 2-4 year rebuild is better than perpetual .500 ball or worse.
This is, of course, to replace all of the higher end prospects we no longer have in our farm.
What's this now?

I can't believe that we don't have Lou marson!
You can probably get Kyle Drabek back

 
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This is the least entertaining team to watch in baseball, maybe in sports. They really have to blow this up, just so fans can be spared the agony.

 
I can't think of a worse team to be a fan of right now. Unlike other bad teams, the Phillies have no minor league system to speak of and are saddled with truly horrible contracts. Maybe the Yankees, I guess.

 
There is one player in all MLB this year with over 300 PA and single digit BB AND RBI. I'll give you 1 guess.
Revere?
of course.

in fact, no other player with 300 PA has single digit RBI at all. Next lowest is 16. Only 1 other player with single-digit walks: Chris Johnson.
Hey, he has 11 RBIs and 10 BBs now. But I don't understand the hate with Revere. We essentially got him for nothing. And he is making relatively nothing. Leads the team in BA and SBs. His OBP is better than Billy Hamilton.

For everything wrong with this team, he is one of the least things wrong with them. He is what he is though. .300 hitter who can steal a lot of bases but can't draw walks. Probably best suited in a 7-8 role but can hit leadoff if your desperate. They aren't really tied to him long term and he is young enough to probably keep around.

 
There is one player in all MLB this year with over 300 PA and single digit BB AND RBI. I'll give you 1 guess.
Revere?
of course.

in fact, no other player with 300 PA has single digit RBI at all. Next lowest is 16. Only 1 other player with single-digit walks: Chris Johnson.
Hey, he has 11 RBIs and 10 BBs now. But I don't understand the hate with Revere. We essentially got him for nothing. And he is making relatively nothing. Leads the team in BA and SBs. His OBP is better than Billy Hamilton.

For everything wrong with this team, he is one of the least things wrong with them. He is what he is though. .300 hitter who can steal a lot of bases but can't draw walks. Probably best suited in a 7-8 role but can hit leadoff if your desperate. They aren't really tied to him long term and he is young enough to probably keep around.
The fact that we traded anything to get him is embarrassing. Can't play defense. Hits singles but has a low OBP. No power, no arm. Has some speed. Sounds like a bench guy to come in as a pinch runner. We traded a 5th starter at the time for him.

 
Funny how much hate Revere gets. Hitting near 300 and the guy has been benched and moved to 8th in the order. Meanwhile, Howard is still hitting 4th at a .222 clip. When does he get moved down/platooned?

 

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