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***OFFICIAL*** Philadelphia Phillies Thread (1 Viewer)

Please See Mine

Footballguy
Wow. Every year they say it is supposed to be different. Even jettisoned Wade this time and still have the same stench of failure on them. Pitching is mediocre. Lose 10-3 to the freaking Nats? :X

 
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Eagles09

Footballguy
Bobby Abreu is by far the laziest RF in baseball, that guy can't play the field at all, he is down right horrible out there, time to get rid of him......and if you don't agree get a copy of last night's phillies game and just watch him play RF....SO LAZY!

 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
And trading Jim Thome was the right thing to do. Maybe if he had lost that 50 pounds while he was here, his back wouldn't have been killing him and he could have had more bat speed . . . but the fact is that they needed a quality defensive CF and they needed to see what Howard would do.

 

The Noid

Avoid me!
Just getting rid of Wade only prevents his continued stank on the team. It's going to be some time before all the stank he created while here, finally goes away.

 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
Bobby Abreu is by far the laziest RF in baseball, that guy can't play the field at all, he is down right horrible out there, time to get rid of him......and if you don't agree get a copy of last night's phillies game and just watch him play RF....SO LAZY!
2005 home run derby down? Pretty sure he's the best player ever. (At least he thinks so). Too bad Venezuala had less violence this year so he didn't have to stay inside all winter pumping iron. (Speaking of which, did Ugy Urbina get executed yet?)

 

Green94

Footballguy
And trading Jim Thome was the right thing to do. Maybe if he had lost that 50 pounds while he was here, his back wouldn't have been killing him and he could have had more bat speed . . . but the fact is that they needed a quality defensive CF and they needed to see what Howard would do.
Really? How is Rowand doing so far this year?
 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
And trading Jim Thome was the right thing to do.  Maybe if he had lost that 50 pounds while he was here, his back wouldn't have been killing him and he could have had more bat speed . . . but the fact is that they needed a quality defensive CF and they needed to see what Howard would do.
Really? How is Rowand doing so far this year?
This isn't the "Just won the world series for the first time in 687 years" thread.
 

Green94

Footballguy
And trading Jim Thome was the right thing to do. Maybe if he had lost that 50 pounds while he was here, his back wouldn't have been killing him and he could have had more bat speed . . . but the fact is that they needed a quality defensive CF and they needed to see what Howard would do.
Really? How is Rowand doing so far this year?
This isn't the "Just won the world series for the first time in 687 years" thread.
Christ dude, relax, I was asking a serious question.
 

Hammered Finz

Footballguy
And trading Jim Thome was the right thing to do.  Maybe if he had lost that 50 pounds while he was here, his back wouldn't have been killing him and he could have had more bat speed . . . but the fact is that they needed a quality defensive CF and they needed to see what Howard would do.
Really? How is Rowand doing so far this year?
so far pretty solid defensively and is hitting .340.. he's a positive addition
 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
And trading Jim Thome was the right thing to do.  Maybe if he had lost that 50 pounds while he was here, his back wouldn't have been killing him and he could have had more bat speed . . . but the fact is that they needed a quality defensive CF and they needed to see what Howard would do.
Really? How is Rowand doing so far this year?
And he is hitting .340 and not #####ing about not playing with a gimpy leg or assaulting police officers, so I'm still ok with it.I realize the Ken Williams will look like a genius if Thome is a major cog in another deep playoff run. I accept it. We still needed to do what we needed to do.

It probably would have been nice if he could have DH'd for us. Kind of makes it easier for him.

 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
And trading Jim Thome was the right thing to do.  Maybe if he had lost that 50 pounds while he was here, his back wouldn't have been killing him and he could have had more bat speed . . . but the fact is that they needed a quality defensive CF and they needed to see what Howard would do.
Really? How is Rowand doing so far this year?
so far pretty solid defensively and is hitting .340.. he's a positive addition
This guy is my official spokesman from now on so that my venom doesn't cloud my statements.
 

Green94

Footballguy
And trading Jim Thome was the right thing to do. Maybe if he had lost that 50 pounds while he was here, his back wouldn't have been killing him and he could have had more bat speed . . . but the fact is that they needed a quality defensive CF and they needed to see what Howard would do.
Really? How is Rowand doing so far this year?
so far pretty solid defensively and is hitting .340.. he's a positive addition
Thanks for the answer, I really had no idea. If Rowand can hit above .280 he will be a great addition to the Phils. His glove more then speaks for itself. It was fun to watch him the past few years. :thumbup:
 

Eagles09

Footballguy
Bobby Abreu is by far the laziest RF in baseball, that guy can't play the field at all, he is down right horrible out there, time to get rid of him......and if you don't agree get a copy of last night's phillies game and just watch him play RF....SO LAZY!
2005 home run derby down? Pretty sure he's the best player ever. (At least he thinks so). Too bad Venezuala had less violence this year so he didn't have to stay inside all winter pumping iron. (Speaking of which, did Ugy Urbina get executed yet?)
That homerun derby was a joke.... there's just something about him i can't stand about him....he gives up on plays to much... take last night's game, there was a ball hit in the gap and aaron rowand couldn't make the play, but the man dived to atleast try and make a play.....when Abreu takes a fly ball, either he is spinning around like a dancer trying to "adjust" to the ball, or flat out doesn't hussle for the play... Philadelphia fans want effort, if anyone watched last night Rowand got cheers for making a effort for a play....we want players who will hussle and give 100%.....players like Abreu get a bronx cheer for catching a fly ball.....which he deserves....
 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
They supposedly tried to move Abreu for a SP in the offseason but just couldn't get a good enough offer. Would have been great to see.

Frontline SP >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bobby Abreu

 

RedRaiders

Mr. +EV
Bobby Abreu is by far the laziest RF in baseball, that guy can't play the field at all, he is down right horrible out there, time to get rid of him......and if you don't agree get a copy of last night's phillies game and just watch him play RF....SO LAZY!
:lmao: :lmao: WIP RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

 

Capella

CAPELLODINHO
Bobby Abreu is by far the laziest RF in baseball, that guy can't play the field at all, he is down right horrible out there, time to get rid of him......and if you don't agree get a copy of last night's phillies game and just watch him play RF....SO LAZY!
We'll take him back in St. Pete.
 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
Bobby Abreu is by far the laziest RF in baseball, that guy can't play the field at all, he is down right horrible out there, time to get rid of him......and if you don't agree get a copy of last night's phillies game and just watch him play RF....SO LAZY!
:lmao: :lmao: WIP RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Just because everything The Chief says is intended to rile people up, doesn't mean he's always wrong.
 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
Bobby Abreu is by far the laziest RF in baseball, that guy can't play the field at all, he is down right horrible out there, time to get rid of him......and if you don't agree get a copy of last night's phillies game and just watch him play RF....SO LAZY!
We'll take him back in St. Pete.
You had your chance 8 years ago. Eddie Wade made a fool outta ya.
 

eddiezz74

Footballguy
Bobby Abreu is by far the laziest RF in baseball, that guy can't play the field at all, he is down right horrible out there, time to get rid of him......and if you don't agree get a copy of last night's phillies game and just watch him play RF....SO LAZY!
:lmao: :lmao: WIP RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Just because everything The Chief says is intended to rile people up, doesn't mean he's always wrong.
unlike the Cuz...
 

Capella

CAPELLODINHO
Bobby Abreu is by far the laziest RF in baseball, that guy can't play the field at all, he is down right horrible out there, time to get rid of him......and if you don't agree get a copy of last night's phillies game and just watch him play RF....SO LAZY!
We'll take him back in St. Pete.
You had your chance 8 years ago. Eddie Wade made a fool outta ya.
I had nothing to do with the deal.
 

GroveDiesel

Footballguy
My wife is a Phillies fan. Tomorrow is her birthday. We have tickets to the game as part of her birthday gift. We'll be in left field about 7 rows up. I'm still trying to decide if I should wear my Braves hat and jersey. :D She just really wants the Rollins beanie hat.

 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
My wife is a Phillies fan. Tomorrow is her birthday. We have tickets to the game as part of her birthday gift. We'll be in left field about 7 rows up. I'm still trying to decide if I should wear my Braves hat and jersey. :D She just really wants the Rollins beanie hat.
1993 . . .
 

Capella

CAPELLODINHO
My wife is a Phillies fan.  Tomorrow is her birthday.  We have tickets to the game as part of her birthday gift.  We'll be in left field about 7 rows up.  I'm still trying to decide if I should wear my Braves hat and jersey.  :D   She just really wants the Rollins beanie hat.
1993 . . .
What's that, last time Philly made the playoffs?
 

GroveDiesel

Footballguy
My wife is a Phillies fan. Tomorrow is her birthday. We have tickets to the game as part of her birthday gift. We'll be in left field about 7 rows up. I'm still trying to decide if I should wear my Braves hat and jersey. :D She just really wants the Rollins beanie hat.
1993 . . .
What's that, last time Philly made the playoffs?
:yes: Hmm, let's see...1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005. :towelwave:

 
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GroveDiesel

Footballguy
And I don't know why Phillies fans bash Abreu so much. He's a great player. No, he's not fiery and he doesn't run his mouth, but that doesn't mean that he's not a great player. That guy would fit perfectly in a Braves uniform. He's professional and he goes out and performs at an elite level every single day.

I do agree that his fielding could be somewhat better though. Although I think that a lot of Philly people go too far here though too. I'm not sure that he really deserved it, but the man won a Gold Glove last season. I think he's just a lot like Andruw Jones. He has good speed and makes excellent reads on the ball as soon as it is hit. He ends up making plays look easy even though other players would be forced to dive or not even get there.

 

GroveDiesel

Footballguy
Phillies-Bravos Playoff Record versus each other:

Phillies 1

Bravos 0

TIA
And the Braves have defeated the Devil Rays in the World Series just as many times as the Devil Rays have defeated the Braves in the World Series. Sorry, but you gotta make it to the playoffs first. If the Phillies could have made it to the playoffs more than once in the past 15 years I'm sure that record would be much different.

I went back to 1983 (the last time the Phils won the WS) and the Braves have a .566 winning percentage against the Phils in the regular season.

 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
He has good speed and makes excellent reads on the ball as soon as it is hit. He ends up making plays look easy even though other players would be forced to dive or not even get there.
X
He's professional and he goes out and performs at an elite level every single day.
XX
 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
Phillies-Bravos Playoff Record versus each other:

Phillies 1

Bravos 0

TIA
And the Braves have defeated the Devil Rays in the World Series just as many times as the Devil Rays have defeated the Braves in the World Series. Sorry, but you gotta make it to the playoffs first. If the Phillies could have made it to the playoffs more than once in the past 15 years I'm sure that record would be much different.

I went back to 1983 (the last time the Phils won the WS) and the Braves have a .566 winning percentage against the Phils in the regular season.
Quit living in the past.
 

Darth Cheney

Footballguy
And I don't know why Phillies fans bash Abreu so much. He's a great player. No, he's not fiery and he doesn't run his mouth, but that doesn't mean that he's not a great player. That guy would fit perfectly in a Braves uniform. He's professional and he goes out and performs at an elite level every single day.

I do agree that his fielding could be somewhat better though. Although I think that a lot of Philly people go too far here though too. I'm not sure that he really deserved it, but the man won a Gold Glove last season. I think he's just a lot like Andruw Jones. He has good speed and makes excellent reads on the ball as soon as it is hit. He ends up making plays look easy even though other players would be forced to dive or not even get there.
There is noone like Andruw Jones in the field. I agree with you about the rest of what you said about Abreu though. Phillies fans are so dumb they don't even recognize their best player since Mike Schmidt.
 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
Look, Abreu is a very talented player. That is obvious. I really do not know how he won that gold glove last year. He has a strong arm but he does not always take good routes on balls. He is not an aggressive hitter in key situations in the game. He is happy just to take a walk.

I don't doubt that any team in the league would be happy to have him. The problem the Phillies' fans have is that he seems to be happy just being a talented player and he has not shown the superstar quality of taking over the team.

And maybe that is not his fault. Maybe it is asking something of him that he doesn't have. But it is very frustrating to watch.

 

Capella

CAPELLODINHO
Phillies-Bravos Playoff Record versus each other:

Phillies 1

Bravos 0

TIA
And the Braves have defeated the Devil Rays in the World Series just as many times as the Devil Rays have defeated the Braves in the World Series. Sorry, but you gotta make it to the playoffs first. If the Phillies could have made it to the playoffs more than once in the past 15 years I'm sure that record would be much different.

I went back to 1983 (the last time the Phils won the WS) and the Braves have a .566 winning percentage against the Phils in the regular season.
Quit living in the past.
I can't tell if you are an alias, or just a really dumb Philly fan.
 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
Phillies-Bravos Playoff Record versus each other:

Phillies 1

Bravos 0

TIA
And the Braves have defeated the Devil Rays in the World Series just as many times as the Devil Rays have defeated the Braves in the World Series. Sorry, but you gotta make it to the playoffs first. If the Phillies could have made it to the playoffs more than once in the past 15 years I'm sure that record would be much different.

I went back to 1983 (the last time the Phils won the WS) and the Braves have a .566 winning percentage against the Phils in the regular season.
Quit living in the past.
I can't tell if you are an alias, or just a really dumb Philly fan.
Let me know when you break .500.
 

Capella

CAPELLODINHO
Phillies-Bravos Playoff Record versus each other:

Phillies 1

Bravos 0

TIA
And the Braves have defeated the Devil Rays in the World Series just as many times as the Devil Rays have defeated the Braves in the World Series. Sorry, but you gotta make it to the playoffs first. If the Phillies could have made it to the playoffs more than once in the past 15 years I'm sure that record would be much different.

I went back to 1983 (the last time the Phils won the WS) and the Braves have a .566 winning percentage against the Phils in the regular season.
Quit living in the past.
I can't tell if you are an alias, or just a really dumb Philly fan.
Let me know when you break .500.
Let me know when your city wins a title. 23 years and counting. :hophead:
 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
Phillies-Bravos Playoff Record versus each other:

Phillies 1

Bravos 0

TIA
And the Braves have defeated the Devil Rays in the World Series just as many times as the Devil Rays have defeated the Braves in the World Series. Sorry, but you gotta make it to the playoffs first. If the Phillies could have made it to the playoffs more than once in the past 15 years I'm sure that record would be much different.

I went back to 1983 (the last time the Phils won the WS) and the Braves have a .566 winning percentage against the Phils in the regular season.
Quit living in the past.
I can't tell if you are an alias, or just a really dumb Philly fan.
Let me know when you break .500.
Let me know when your city wins a title. 23 years and counting. :hophead:
Glad to know you're keeping us in your thoughts and prayers. :thumbup: You're welcome that we chose Ray Rhodes instead of Gruden.

 

eoMMan

Footballguy
It's not their hitting and it's not their fielding. It's their pitching. Look at last night's game, for example. The game was a very close 4-3 until Rhodes gave up 2 runs and then I think it was Geary gave up that grand slam to blow it open to 10-3. They need pitching....especially in the bullpen. Until then, they won't do much.

 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
It's not their hitting and it's not their fielding. It's their pitching. Look at last night's game, for example. The game was a very close 4-3 until Rhodes gave up 2 runs and then I think it was Geary gave up that grand slam to blow it open to 10-3. They need pitching....especially in the bullpen. Until then, they won't do much.
See, this guy gets it. Ryan Franklin is also a stud.Somewhat surprisingly, Gordon has been very good so far.

 

RedRaiders

Mr. +EV
It's not their hitting and it's not their fielding. It's their pitching. Look at last night's game, for example. The game was a very close 4-3 until Rhodes gave up 2 runs and then I think it was Geary gave up that grand slam to blow it open to 10-3. They need pitching....especially in the bullpen. Until then, they won't do much.
I'm confident that if the team is still in it, Gillick will make the in-season move that Wade never could (although I liked the Urbina trade). Imagine how bad it would be if Franklin made the rotation and Floyd went to AAA.
 

GroveDiesel

Footballguy
I went back to 1983(the last time the Phils won the WS) and the Braves have a .566 winning percentage against the Phils in the regular season.
1980.
:doh: I was confusing the years Villanova won the title and when the Phillies won. Going back to 1980 lowers the winning percentage for the Braves to .555.

 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
I went back to 1983(the last time the Phils won the WS) and the Braves have a .566 winning percentage against the Phils in the regular season.
1980.
:doh: I was confusing the years Villanova won the title and when the Phillies won. Going back to 1980 lowers the winning percentage for the Braves to .555.
See, that's much better.Except that Villanova won in 1985.

 

Jaysus

Good times!
I went back to 1983(the last time the Phils won the WS) and the Braves have a .566 winning percentage against the Phils in the regular season.
1980.
:doh: I was confusing the years Villanova won the title and when the Phillies won. Going back to 1980 lowers the winning percentage for the Braves to .555.
still wrong, but at least you matched the sport and the year that time.
 

Please See Mine

Footballguy
For those keeping track.

Eagles won in 1947, 1948 and 1960

Sixers won in 1983 and 1967

Phillies won in 1980

Flyers won in 1974 and 1975

Villanova won in 1985

 

GroveDiesel

Footballguy
And I don't know why Phillies fans bash Abreu so much. He's a great player. No, he's not fiery and he doesn't run his mouth, but that doesn't mean that he's not a great player. That guy would fit perfectly in a Braves uniform. He's professional and he goes out and performs at an elite level every single day.

I do agree that his fielding could be somewhat better though. Although I think that a lot of Philly people go too far here though too. I'm not sure that he really deserved it, but the man won a Gold Glove last season. I think he's just a lot like Andruw Jones. He has good speed and makes excellent reads on the ball as soon as it is hit. He ends up making plays look easy even though other players would be forced to dive or not even get there.
There is noone like Andruw Jones in the field. I agree with you about the rest of what you said about Abreu though. Phillies fans are so dumb they don't even recognize their best player since Mike Schmidt.
Oh, I agree that Abreu isn't nearly as good as Andruw in the field. I was merely comparing their style. People have given Andruw a hard time for years too because they think that he's loafing it in the outfield (I used to be one of them). But he just doesn't need to run around like crazy most of the time because he has such a long stride and he breaks on balls so quickly. I also think that Jones would be treated the same as Abreu if he played in Philly. They would say that he hits too many HRs with nobody on base, he strikes out too much and he's lazy in the outfield. Maybe not, but that's my perception.

I think that the same mentality is why there are still so many people in Philly that love Iverson. Sure he may hate the fans and make his teammates worse, but the guy plays his heart out so they respect him.

 

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