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Official pick 1.03 thread (standard, 12 team, redraft) (1 Viewer)

Leonidas

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I have two of these picks this year as well as a 1.02.

The status quo says to take one of the elite top-4 RB's (Peterson, Charles, McCoy, Forte) with your first pick, then probably BPA of RB/WR on the 2/3 turn.

My mocks have been pretty well settled on one of Nelson/Brown/Jeffery paired with one of Morris/Martin/Stacy for the 2/3 (those are roughly my order of preference ATM)

But I get into dilemmas as I can see a lot of possible directions to take with that 2/3 depending on who is available:

-Rodgers/Brees

-Gronk

-Two WR's

-Open with Calvin and then take RB/WR at the turn...

 
Peterson all the way... I am LOVING my teams that I'm mocking from the 2.03/2.04. I've been able to go AP/Nelson/Brown quite often, which is an absurd start to the draft. And when one of those guys don't fall, it's usually because a decent RB like Bell or Murray is still available in the late second.

For all the talk about it being a good year to be on the end in PPR drafts this year, I believe it's still best to be in the top 4 picks for non-PPR. RBs become more important and are generally drafted sooner, so you get some elite WR options falling to the 2/3 turn.

I've had the option of picking my slot in both PPR and non-PPR leagues so far ... I took 11th in the PPR (would have taken 12th but it was full) and I took the 3rd spot in a non-PPR.

 
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I'm mostly starting with:

Peterson

Gronk

Jeffrey

Rodgers/Brees is tempting there, but I'm passing and pairing Gronk with Brady in the 5th.

 
Anyone going Forte over Peterson with the 1.03 pick? While tough to pass up on Peterson, Forte; in the Trestman offense, has a good possibility to outperform AD IMO

 
Toying with going Peterson/Gronk/Julius in a PPR where I can start TE at flex. I mocked it out and loved my team. Huge advantage at TE and flex every week (except when facing Graham).

 
Questions:

Why Peterson over Forte?

Are Charles and McCoy gone in most mock drafts in the 1 and 2 slots?

Is there any logical reasoning behind taking Calvin Johnson at #3, or another RB (or anyone other than Peterson or Forte?) ?

 
Questions:

Why Peterson over Forte?

Are Charles and McCoy gone in most mock drafts in the 1 and 2 slots?

Is there any logical reasoning behind taking Calvin Johnson at #3, or another RB (or anyone other than Peterson or Forte?) ?
I take Peterson over Forte because Peterson has a better track record of elite RB production in his career.

Forte's career RB rankings have been:

4

18

10

15

13

3

Peterson's

3

3

2

3

8

1

6

Obviously things change and all that, but Peterson has been about as consistent and reliable as it gets. Literally he's been a top 8 RB every single season of his career.

The logical reasoning behind (perhaps) taking Calvin Johnson at #3 is that WR's are less volatile than RB's. That old 'you can't win your league in the first round but you can lose it'. And Calvin puts up RB1 numbers. He would have been like RB5 or RB6 last year in standard formats.

I had my first draft from the #3/12 slot today. I opened Peterson, Brown-Martin, Harvin-Torrey

I could have had Cobb or Jeffery instead of Martin. The elite WR's all the way through Nelson were gone by 2.10.

 
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I'm going to throw this for a loop mainly because of my scoring system. 6 pts all TDs and bonus points for distance TDs. .5ppr WRs/TEs only, 1 QB/1RB/2WR/2Flex/1TE

I'm not targeting positions but the values IMO seem to fall this way:

1.03 Peyton (Only if Charles and McCoy are gone) I'm just not sold on ADP & Forte

2.10 Jeffery/Jordy/A. Brown

3.03 Stacey/Ellington/Morris

4.10 Crabtree/Harvin/A.Johnson (Stafford if I don't take Peyton)

5.03 Gore/Joique/ Desean Jackson

I understand QBs are deep but if you have a top 4 QB in my league, it's a one way ticket to the playoffs.

 
Had a draft last night in a PPR league, Calvin went 1st, Charles 2nd and I took McCoy...but I was set to take Forte over Peterson, strictly based on his 95 targets in the first year in the system. Non-PPR league and I wouldn't of even thought about it, Peterson all the way.

 
Futz said:
I'm going to throw this for a loop mainly because of my scoring system. 6 pts all TDs and bonus points for distance TDs. .5ppr WRs/TEs only, 1 QB/1RB/2WR/2Flex/1TE

I'm not targeting positions but the values IMO seem to fall this way:

1.03 Peyton (Only if Charles and McCoy are gone) I'm just not sold on ADP & Forte

2.10 Jeffery/Jordy/A. Brown

3.03 Stacey/Ellington/Morris

4.10 Crabtree/Harvin/A.Johnson (Stafford if I don't take Peyton)

5.03 Gore/Joique/ Desean Jackson

I understand QBs are deep but if you have a top 4 QB in my league, it's a one way ticket to the playoffs.
My draft last night, probably don't care but might give some perspective:

  • Manning 1.06
  • Jeffery 2.07, Jordy 2.08, Brown 2.12
  • Stacy 3.07, Ellington 4.07 (I was 3 picks away) , Morris 4.01
  • [SIZE=12.012011528015137px]Crabtree 5.11, Harvin 6.06, A.Johnson 4.08, Stafford 3.02[/SIZE]
  • [SIZE=12.012011528015137px]Gore 5.02, Joique 6.05, Desean Jackson 6.08[/SIZE]
 
Futz said:
I'm going to throw this for a loop mainly because of my scoring system. 6 pts all TDs and bonus points for distance TDs. .5ppr WRs/TEs only, 1 QB/1RB/2WR/2Flex/1TE

I'm not targeting positions but the values IMO seem to fall this way:

1.03 Peyton (Only if Charles and McCoy are gone) I'm just not sold on ADP & Forte

2.10 Jeffery/Jordy/A. Brown

3.03 Stacey/Ellington/Morris

4.10 Crabtree/Harvin/A.Johnson (Stafford if I don't take Peyton)

5.03 Gore/Joique/ Desean Jackson

I understand QBs are deep but if you have a top 4 QB in my league, it's a one way ticket to the playoffs.
My draft last night, probably don't care but might give some perspective:

  • Manning 1.06
  • Jeffery 2.07, Jordy 2.08, Brown 2.12
  • Stacy 3.07, Ellington 4.07 (I was 3 picks away) , Morris 4.01
  • [SIZE=12.01px]Crabtree 5.11, Harvin 6.06, A.Johnson 4.08, Stafford 3.02[/SIZE]
  • [SIZE=12.01px]Gore 5.02, Joique 6.05, Desean Jackson 6.08[/SIZE]
Sounds about right and I'd be happy as a clam with the outcome. Thanks for posting.

 
I'm going to throw this for a loop mainly because of my scoring system. 6 pts all TDs and bonus points for distance TDs. .5ppr WRs/TEs only, 1 QB/1RB/2WR/2Flex/1TE

I'm not targeting positions but the values IMO seem to fall this way:

1.03 Peyton (Only if Charles and McCoy are gone) I'm just not sold on ADP & Forte

2.10 Jeffery/Jordy/A. Brown

3.03 Stacey/Ellington/Morris

4.10 Crabtree/Harvin/A.Johnson (Stafford if I don't take Peyton)

5.03 Gore/Joique/ Desean Jackson

I understand QBs are deep but if you have a top 4 QB in my league, it's a one way ticket to the playoffs.
That's the dilemma. I see the reasons to take Peterson, he's been consistently great, and Forte is a high octane offense, he should be consistent with the 70+ catches, and no other goal line RB in this offense.

My scoring system is PPR, but the numbers that QB's put up, particularly if they are Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning, is pretty crazy. We only start one so that's the drawback. Taking Manning at 3 means I pass on at least 8 or 9 RB's, probably more before my next pick. At that point, I probably say screw it, and grab a WR with picks 2 and 3.

If I take Manning, I'm getting a guy who can put up 30's weekly. A top RB averages low 20's, and while they are more valuable overall just because there's only a handful of stud RB's vs. the QB position that's pretty deep, I need 100 points in my league to feel like I have a shot a win, and a guy like Manning, puts me 30% there alone in most weeks. Can I draft a good enough team with a QB in Round 1?

I'm still leaning RB here, still torn between Forte and Peterson, Peterson and Forte, but just thought i'd throw out my dilemma in reply to this post.

 
My dream start:

Peterson

Jeffrey (Julio seems unrealistic now)

Gronk

Patterson

Floyd

Brady
Got:

Peterson

Jeffrey

Gronk

Floyd

Torrey Smith

Cam Newton

Joquie Bell

Josh Gordon

Reggie Wayne

Devonta Freeman

Jeremy Hill

Christine Michael

James Starks

Cody Latimer

Pats D

 
If McCoy and Charles go 1-2...I understand the next picks are either: AP, Forte, Manning, Calvin, or what about Graham? He seems to make the greatest difference amongst TE's. Gronk still a health question mark. J Thomas a close third. After the 3 stud TE's it really falls. Whichever direction one go's with pick 1.03 changes the rest of their draft.

 
I'm going to throw this for a loop mainly because of my scoring system. 6 pts all TDs and bonus points for distance TDs. .5ppr WRs/TEs only, 1 QB/1RB/2WR/2Flex/1TE

I'm not targeting positions but the values IMO seem to fall this way:

1.03 Peyton (Only if Charles and McCoy are gone) I'm just not sold on ADP & Forte

2.10 Jeffery/Jordy/A. Brown

3.03 Stacey/Ellington/Morris

4.10 Crabtree/Harvin/A.Johnson (Stafford if I don't take Peyton)

5.03 Gore/Joique/ Desean Jackson

I understand QBs are deep but if you have a top 4 QB in my league, it's a one way ticket to the playoffs.
That's the dilemma. I see the reasons to take Peterson, he's been consistently great, and Forte is a high octane offense, he should be consistent with the 70+ catches, and no other goal line RB in this offense.

My scoring system is PPR, but the numbers that QB's put up, particularly if they are Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning, is pretty crazy. We only start one so that's the drawback. Taking Manning at 3 means I pass on at least 8 or 9 RB's, probably more before my next pick. At that point, I probably say screw it, and grab a WR with picks 2 and 3.

If I take Manning, I'm getting a guy who can put up 30's weekly. A top RB averages low 20's, and while they are more valuable overall just because there's only a handful of stud RB's vs. the QB position that's pretty deep, I need 100 points in my league to feel like I have a shot a win, and a guy like Manning, puts me 30% there alone in most weeks. Can I draft a good enough team with a QB in Round 1?

I'm still leaning RB here, still torn between Forte and Peterson, Peterson and Forte, but just thought i'd throw out my dilemma in reply to this post.
After Charles and McCoy went (the ony two RBs I would have taken) it went like this:

Manning

Nelson

Morris

R. White

Patterson

Edelman

L. Miller

A. Williams

Rudolph

K. Robinson

J. Hunter

Delanie

Ingram

Cardinals

Vinatieri

James White

I felt good about this. CBS rated it the highest weekly point avg. team in the draft. I really like my WRs and RB depth should produce 2 starters weekly but I only need if I choose.

 
No PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex.

4pt passing TDs, all others 6pts.

I toyed with the idea of targeting both Graham and Gronk, but decided to take a piece of both the top-RB and top-TE tiers.

01.03 E. Lacy - high power GB offense puts him over the edge for me vs. ADP here

02.10 R. Gronkowski - passed on Jordy here to take Gronk

03.03 A. Rodgers - would have taken Julius Thomas, but missed him. Rodgers was 3rd QB off the board, and my #1.

04.10 K. Allen - love the value here

05.03 R. White - love the value here, WR1 upside

06.10 J. Cameron - secured 2 of my "big-4" at TE, backs up a risky Gronk, widens my TE VBD gap vs the field

07.03 A. Johnson - love the value here ... Surprised as this is a Houston league

08.10 NE Patriots - this was a reach, don't like the pick, just missed out on Percy and scrambled a bit

09.03 P. Thomas - meh

10.10 B. Pierce - starting the search for a high upside RB2 to run with Fat Eddie. At least starts week 1&2.

11.03 K. Davis - upside

12.10 M. Ingram - love how he has been running

13.03 J. Stewart - fool me thrice?

14.10 M. Bryant - indoors, poor defense, decent offense

15.03 NY Jets - they play OAK week 1

16.10 J. Matthews

Assuming one of my RB2 candidates hit, I feel great about my lineup.

Really like my WR depth, feel fortunate to have found what I did.

I usually am a "wait on QB" drafter, but if I get a healthy Gronk, this draft strategy / result could work out ok.

 
I'm going to throw this for a loop mainly because of my scoring system. 6 pts all TDs and bonus points for distance TDs. .5ppr WRs/TEs only, 1 QB/1RB/2WR/2Flex/1TE

I'm not targeting positions but the values IMO seem to fall this way:

1.03 Peyton (Only if Charles and McCoy are gone) I'm just not sold on ADP & Forte

2.10 Jeffery/Jordy/A. Brown

3.03 Stacey/Ellington/Morris

4.10 Crabtree/Harvin/A.Johnson (Stafford if I don't take Peyton)

5.03 Gore/Joique/ Desean Jackson

I understand QBs are deep but if you have a top 4 QB in my league, it's a one way ticket to the playoffs.
That's the dilemma. I see the reasons to take Peterson, he's been consistently great, and Forte is a high octane offense, he should be consistent with the 70+ catches, and no other goal line RB in this offense.

My scoring system is PPR, but the numbers that QB's put up, particularly if they are Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning, is pretty crazy. We only start one so that's the drawback. Taking Manning at 3 means I pass on at least 8 or 9 RB's, probably more before my next pick. At that point, I probably say screw it, and grab a WR with picks 2 and 3.

If I take Manning, I'm getting a guy who can put up 30's weekly. A top RB averages low 20's, and while they are more valuable overall just because there's only a handful of stud RB's vs. the QB position that's pretty deep, I need 100 points in my league to feel like I have a shot a win, and a guy like Manning, puts me 30% there alone in most weeks. Can I draft a good enough team with a QB in Round 1?

I'm still leaning RB here, still torn between Forte and Peterson, Peterson and Forte, but just thought i'd throw out my dilemma in reply to this post.
It seems or leagues score similarly so here are the teams that took a QB in the first:

Team A

Brees, Bradford

Stacy, Thomas, Mcfadden, Freeman

Julio Jones, Allen, Garcon, Harvin

Witten

Team B

Rodgers, Dalton

Vereen, Gerhart, Miller, DeAngelo, Blount

Marshall, Roddy White, Cooks, Shorts

Pitta

Team C

Peyton, Bridgewater, Schaub

Bell, Ellington, Sankey, Mathews

Jeffrey, Evans, T Williams, Randle, Hunter

Cameron, Clay

 

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