Official Pick #11 Thread (1 Viewer)

[j0novision]

Gentlemen,

Checking in with the 11 spot. So far my strategy comes down to:

• If good enough RB falls, take him (sjax, turner [not likely]) ... If not

• If Randy Moss is on the board, take him... If not

• If Aaron Rodgers is on the board, take him... If not

• Take Deangelo Williams if he's there... If not

• Take best player available

After the turn:

• If I took RB go WR

• If I took QB go WR

• If I took WR go RB/WR

• For WR take Calvin Johnson if there... If not

• Take best WR available

• For RB take best available

Thoughts:

• Rodgers at 1.11 stupid pick? (6 pt TDs, -3 for INT/fumbles)

Anyone else drafting here want to chime in?

 

[Jack Burton]

yeah what the hell, take Rodgers.

 

[Judge Smails]

Bout time somebody started one..I'm in a 6 point TD league and my bet is Rogers will be available at 11 for sure and possibly at 13. Still 99% sure I'm not going that route. Pretty sure I'm going 1 RB and 1 WR. Just have to choose the right one. For sure ADP, CJ, MJD, Rice, Gore and Andre Johnson will be gone. After those 6 it's a bit of a crapshoot in my league. Figuring that Michael Turner goes somewhere in the mix. That's 7. Somebody will probably go Steven Jackson, though outside chance he slides. Lots of people are down on Moss in our league, including me (owned him last year), so he may slip.

I think I'm going to end up with a Rashard Mendenhall and a Miles Austin combo (will likely reach for him over Calvin Johnson and maybe Fitz). I really want a S. Greene or Jamal Charles type on my roster, but I just can't reach that early. We're a 3WR start league, so really want at least one stud. Hoping that I can get a Cedric Benson type in round 3 followed by a solid WR2, then get an Ahmad Bradshaw type in mid rounds to firm up running game. QB - I think I'm waiting this year and going and Eli/Kolb type in 6 or 7. I know I can resist Rogers, Manning and Brees with my 11 and 13 picks, the real discipline will be if Romo or someone is there at the 3/4 turn. I really think I have to in order to field the best team..

 

[j0novision]

Bout time somebody started one..I'm in a 6 point TD league and my bet is Rogers will be available at 11 for sure and possibly at 13. Still 99% sure I'm not going that route. Pretty sure I'm going 1 RB and 1 WR. Just have to choose the right one. For sure ADP, CJ, MJD, Rice, Gore and Andre Johnson will be gone. After those 6 it's a bit of a crapshoot in my league. Figuring that Michael Turner goes somewhere in the mix. That's 7. Somebody will probably go Steven Jackson, though outside chance he slides. Lots of people are down on Moss in our league, including me (owned him last year), so he may slip. I think I'm going to end up with a Rashard Mendenhall and a Miles Austin combo (will likely reach for him over Calvin Johnson and maybe Fitz). I really want a S. Greene or Jamal Charles type on my roster, but I just can't reach that early. We're a 3WR start league, so really want at least one stud. Hoping that I can get a Cedric Benson type in round 3 followed by a solid WR2, then get an Ahmad Bradshaw type in mid rounds to firm up running game. QB - I think I'm waiting this year and going and Eli/Kolb type in 6 or 7. I know I can resist Rogers, Manning and Brees with my 11 and 13 picks, the real discipline will be if Romo or someone is there at the 3/4 turn. I really think I have to in order to field the best team..

It would indeed be tough to ignore Romo at the 3/4 turn, however, passing in the red zone doesn't seem like a big strength of the Cowboys, and therefore I could see myself waiting for Eli as well, picking up impact players instead on the way.What about TE?

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Well it's often a reward for making the finals and losing (in a 12 team league) But now what do you do with it? There should be at least one good back that slips to you, though ging STUD WR STUD WR and then picking backs up at 3/4 turn is viable too. we'll see. gonna run a few mocks.

 

[lsutigers]

Definitely depends on league scoring and makeup of league.

I'm in a .5 RB PPR, 1.0 WR/TE PPR with 6 pts passing TD's

I know at least Rodgers and Brees will go in the first, and possibly Manning also. Romo won't be there in the third for me, but if you start RB-WR or WR-WR and he's there in the 3rd, you HAVE to jump on him.

Even though my leaguemates go after the QB's early, WR's are the position at a premium. I'm almost positive one of Gore or Jackson will be there at 1.11 but I don't like either.

I'm looking at WR/WR with some combo of Fitz/Moss/Wayne/Austin then seeing what is there for me in the 3rd/4th at RB. Probably going to be the last to pick up a QB but the first to grab two.

Won this league last season but got extremely lucky, hitting on a RBBC standout (Ray Rice), a later sleeper QB (Shaub) and TE (Owen Daniels - for half the season anyway. . .) to go along with Moss and Fitz who I drafted 1-2 from the 12 spot.

 

[cheatsheetwarroom]

I think at 11 you have to walk away with either a 2 top tier WRs, or a top-tier WR/QB. For me, I'd be shooting for one of the Big 3 QBs: Brees, Manning, or Rogers. If you think you can grab one of these guys early in Round 2, then I'd definitely go WR in Round 1.

Moss/Brees is something that I could gladly live with.

 

[Tick]

I drafted 11th of 12 in a staff/MB survivor last night. QRRWWWTDK + one flex. 6/pass TD. No PPR. The league only goes through week 5, so my bye weeks are a bit odd.

ETA: This was a very strong group of drafters. I didn't expect Jackson to fall to the 11th pick, and was thrilled that he did. I wasn't planning on picking an RB at 11 because I didn't like the guys I thought would be there, so this threw off my preparations. Some of these guys were picked because of single-game outbursts that work well in Survivor, like Vince Young and Roy Williams, guys I wouldn't ever start, but think will be my top scorer some week.

Here's how it went:

1.11 Jackson, Steven STL RB

2.02 Grant, Ryan GBP RB

3.11 Gates, Antonio SDC TE

4.02 Addai, Joseph IND RB

5.11 Sims-Walker, Mike JAC WR

6.02 Moss, Santana WAS WR

7.11 McNabb, Donovan WAS QB

8.02 Knox, Johnny CHI WR

9.11 Gaffney, Jabar DEN WR

10.02 Young, Vince TEN QB

11.11 Sproles, Darren SDC RB

12.02 Eagles, Philadelphia PHI Def

13.11 Moore, Lance NOS WR

14.02 Naanee, Legedu SDC WR

15.11 Freeman, Josh TBB QB

16.02 Fells, Daniel STL TE

17.11 Hartley, Garrett NOS PK

18.02 Williams, Roy DAL WR

19.11 Buccaneers, Tampa Bay TBB Def

20.02 Orton, Kyle DEN QB

21.11 Jennings, Rashad JAC RB

22.02 Nugent, Mike CIN PK

23.11 Browns, Cleveland CLE Def

24.02 Cook, Jared TEN TE

 

[rizzler]

in s start 3 wr league im not 100percent convinced of your strategy, but I like your outcome at least... sjax and grant are nice RBs and should put up consistent numbers... but heres my take: keep in mind im in a 14man, with exact rules as yours except no flex

at the 11 spot, you have to gain advantage over the eqrly round players who benefit from a stud RB... this is best done by a WR/QB or QB/WR method...

grabbing yourself a STUD QB, such as Manning, Brees or ROdgers and pairing him with what should be a top 3-4WR is the best value bet for your setup..

in the 14man mocks ive been running from late positions, Ive been securing Rodgers or Manning along with Austin, Moss, White etc.

basically thru all my calculations, DD verifications etc.... this is the best value.

BUT becquse of your flex spot, perhaps the RB becomes slightly more vital and a RB/WR combo is your best bet... But I still am huge on locking onto a stud QB when drafting in the later numbers of a 12 and especially a 14 man draft

 

[kipper76]

I'm at a loss what to do in the 11 spot this year. I actually had it last year too and did WR/WR and got AJ and CJ.... my mistake was not taking 2 RB's @ the 3/4 turn.... and K. Smith was the one I did take =(

Start 2 RB and 2 WR and scoring is 1 PPR with 4pt passing TD's so a stud QB isn't as tempting at 11/14.

I doubt a RB will slide to me so I think if a want a RB out of 11/14 I'm gonna have to go Mendy or Dwill.... but eh???

I'll probably end up going WR/WR again but do a better job of securing RBs and play the QB combo game @ the 7/8 turn.

Draft starts in the morning. Will update with picks.

 

[rizzler]

I'm at a loss what to do in the 11 spot this year. I actually had it last year too and did WR/WR and got AJ and CJ.... my mistake was not taking 2 RB's @ the 3/4 turn.... and K. Smith was the one I did take =( Start 2 RB and 2 WR and scoring is 1 PPR with 4pt passing TD's so a stud QB isn't as tempting at 11/14.I doubt a RB will slide to me so I think if a want a RB out of 11/14 I'm gonna have to go Mendy or Dwill.... but eh??? I'll probably end up going WR/WR again but do a better job of securing RBs and play the QB combo game @ the 7/8 turn.Draft starts in the morning. Will update with picks.

go WR/WR (unless dwill is there, id take him)... and at the 3/4 turn id def grab addai... majorly undervalued

 

[kipper76]

I'm at a loss what to do in the 11 spot this year. I actually had it last year too and did WR/WR and got AJ and CJ.... my mistake was not taking 2 RB's @ the 3/4 turn.... and K. Smith was the one I did take =( Start 2 RB and 2 WR and scoring is 1 PPR with 4pt passing TD's so a stud QB isn't as tempting at 11/14.I doubt a RB will slide to me so I think if a want a RB out of 11/14 I'm gonna have to go Mendy or Dwill.... but eh??? I'll probably end up going WR/WR again but do a better job of securing RBs and play the QB combo game @ the 7/8 turn.Draft starts in the morning. Will update with picks.

go WR/WR (unless dwill is there, id take him)... and at the 3/4 turn id def grab addai... majorly undervalued

MISS FIRE, MISS FIRE!Seems as though the draft order was shuffled 12 hours b4 the draft. I am now #4. Out goes the WR/WR strategy. Eh, what can you, it' a free league.CJAPMJDRiceAny order there-of will be my 1st pick.

 

[TeamSnooki]

Picking 11th and picking Saturday. I'm glad my preferred strategies seem to be right in line with mostly everyone else.

(6 pt/TD, 1pt/20yds - 1pt/3cat) QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex, etc

In a perfect world I get a QB & WR. Pretty indifferent between Rodgers and Brees. If both are there at 11 I will get my WR first and grab one (sliiiight edge for Brees) at 14. If only one is there at 11, whoever is left will be my pick. Perfect draft gets me Moss at 11 and Brees at 14. I can also see QB-R White (my #3 WR) in my future.

Second scenario is WR-WR. ESPN's ADP would put me in this spot and I'll try to come out with Moss and White.

Last scenario I think is at all realistic for me is WR-RB or RB-WR. Will try to grab one of the top WRs and a RB who has slipped. Don't think RB-QB or RB-RB are options for me this year.

If I don't get a QB in 1/2, I will look for a top 7 in 3/4. If the QB run goes crazy early this year, I guess I'll wait and pick up Cutler or Flacco later on.

Waiting on a TE unless one falls in my lap. I'm thinking about waiting until 9 and getting K2 or Z Miller. Obv will also consider a couple guys at 7 if they slip.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

We are at pick nine; all RBs so far, but you get 1pt/5 rushes in addition to ppr. Looks like I will be doing something I've never done -- Take a QB in the first round. I am having a hard time rationalizing Mendenhall, D Williams or Charles as a first round pick. Anyone disagree? I'm open.

 

[rizzler]

if at least 2 of the 3 stud QBs are available, and theres only one guy picking after you...

grab the BEST WR on the board at 11, then grab whichever of the stud QBs fall back to you at 14..

 

[DoubleG]

I drafted 11th of 12 in a staff/MB survivor last night. QRRWWWTDK + one flex. 6/pass TD. No PPR. The league only goes through week 5, so my bye weeks are a bit odd.ETA: This was a very strong group of drafters. I didn't expect Jackson to fall to the 11th pick, and was thrilled that he did. I wasn't planning on picking an RB at 11 because I didn't like the guys I thought would be there, so this threw off my preparations. Some of these guys were picked because of single-game outbursts that work well in Survivor, like Vince Young and Roy Williams, guys I wouldn't ever start, but think will be my top scorer some week.Here's how it went:1.11 Jackson, Steven STL RB2.02 Grant, Ryan GBP RB3.11 Gates, Antonio SDC TE4.02 Addai, Joseph IND RB5.11 Sims-Walker, Mike JAC WR6.02 Moss, Santana WAS WR7.11 McNabb, Donovan WAS QB8.02 Knox, Johnny CHI WR9.11 Gaffney, Jabar DEN WR10.02 Young, Vince TEN QB11.11 Sproles, Darren SDC RB12.02 Eagles, Philadelphia PHI Def13.11 Moore, Lance NOS WR14.02 Naanee, Legedu SDC WR15.11 Freeman, Josh TBB QB16.02 Fells, Daniel STL TE17.11 Hartley, Garrett NOS PK18.02 Williams, Roy DAL WR19.11 Buccaneers, Tampa Bay TBB Def20.02 Orton, Kyle DEN QB21.11 Jennings, Rashad JAC RB22.02 Nugent, Mike CIN PK23.11 Browns, Cleveland CLE Def24.02 Cook, Jared TEN TE

League 7 Survivor from the 11:1.11 Turner, Michael ATL RB 2.02 Moss, Randy NEP WR 3.11 Rice, Sidney MIN WR 4.02 Gates, Antonio SDC TE 5.11 Forte, Matt CHI RB 6.02 Driver, Donald GBP WR 7.11 Flacco, Joe BAL QB 8.02 Britt, Kenny TEN WR 9.11 Brown, Donald IND RB With only.5 PPR for RBs, I was pleased with Turner at 11. But because he was available one of the other stud WRs was gone, so I couldn't pass him up. Becuase it's only 4 per passing TD (and best ball), I let QB slide and snagged a couple of decent ones. With 1 PPR for WR/TE, I figured hitting those positions hard was more important. Later in the draft a snagged Aromashadu & Bennet from Chicago for the same reason you picked VY and Roy Williams - they could put up a big week.I think snagging a TE at the 3/4 turn is important, as that TE run would then happen in that huge gap of picks between 4.02 and 5.11 and you might get stuck with some meh leftovers.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

if at least 2 of the 3 stud QBs are available, and theres only one guy picking after you...grab the BEST WR on the board at 11, then grab whichever of the stud QBs fall back to you at 14..

Thanks. I was trying to pre-draft pick, but was better to wait and see previous pick as you suggested. Took Wayne at 1.11 and just put in Rogers/Brees for pick two. Was surprised to see Fitz go at 1.10/2nd WR taken after Johnson @ 1.09. ETA: Ryan Matthews and Randy Moss went at the turn, so I got Rodgers. Greene also went Round one, but this league gives 1pt/5rushes, so RBs are more highly valued than typical PPR league, I think.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

1.11 Turner, Michael ATL RB 2.02 Moss, Randy NEP WR 3.11 Rice, Sidney MIN WR 4.02 Gates, Antonio SDC TE 5.11 Forte, Matt CHI RB 6.02 Driver, Donald GBP WR 7.11 Flacco, Joe BAL QB 8.02 Britt, Kenny TEN WR 9.11 Brown, Donald IND RB With only.5 PPR for RBs, I was pleased with Turner at 11.

Looks like the RBs really dropped. I was praying for Turner @ 1.110, but went much earlier. Would love to get Forte that late. Good luck!

 

[Hanz]

Anyone tempted to take Ryan Matthews and then Shonn Green at the turn?

 

[-jb-]

Anyone tempted to take Ryan Matthews and then Shonn Green at the turn?

I don't like the risk/reward there. You MIGHT wind up with a great duo, but my money is on at least one of them underperforming. Even if it's a little bit, it justifies the need to take a WR there.

 

[DoubleG]

Anyone tempted to take Ryan Matthews and then Shonn Green at the turn?

I don't like the risk/reward there. You MIGHT wind up with a great duo, but my money is on at least one of them underperforming. Even if it's a little bit, it justifies the need to take a WR there.

Agreed.

 

[rizzler]

Anyone tempted to take Ryan Matthews and then Shonn Green at the turn?

while I think both should be decent this year, I like more stability with my early picks... while I would have taken white/austin or moss, compared to the Wayne pick (still a solid pick), I think your best bet was WR/QB there... you solidifed yourself with arguably the highest scoring FF player in Rodgers, and a high octane WR in Wayne... a solid start from the 11 spot... as I mentioned earlier... the 3/4 turn, id start to look WR/RB or RB/RB... but I think you can score a Nicks/Crabtree/Other WR and a giuseppe addai as a solid, undervalued RB... but most importantly, see who falls!!!

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Anyone tempted to take Ryan Matthews and then Shonn Green at the turn?

while I would have taken white/austin or moss, compared to the Wayne pick (still a solid pick), I think your best bet was WR/QB there... you solidifed yourself with arguably the highest scoring FF player in Rodgers, and a high octane WR in Wayne... a solid start from the 11 spot... as I mentioned earlier... the 3/4 turn, id start to look WR/RB or RB/RB... but I think you can score a Nicks/Crabtree/Other WR and a giuseppe addai as a solid, undervalued RB... but most importantly, see who falls!!!

rizzler- I think you mixed me and Hanz together; ignore this response if you didn't. 1st- Actually was close for me between Wayne and White.2nd- I didn't want to go WR/WR because this league only starts two. Have to look more thoroughly at the ADPs for rounds 3-6 and will decide on whether to do RB/RB or RB/WR. Benson (if he lasts that late) or Addai are definite possibilities for me next. Pierre Thomas, maybe.

 

[rizzler]

Anyone tempted to take Ryan Matthews and then Shonn Green at the turn?

while I would have taken white/austin or moss, compared to the Wayne pick (still a solid pick), I think your best bet was WR/QB there... you solidifed yourself with arguably the highest scoring FF player in Rodgers, and a high octane WR in Wayne... a solid start from the 11 spot... as I mentioned earlier... the 3/4 turn, id start to look WR/RB or RB/RB... but I think you can score a Nicks/Crabtree/Other WR and a giuseppe addai as a solid, undervalued RB... but most importantly, see who falls!!!

rizzler- I think you mixed me and Hanz together; ignore this response if you didn't. 1st- Actually was close for me between Wayne and White.2nd- I didn't want to go WR/WR because this league only starts two. Have to look more thoroughly at the ADPs for rounds 3-6 and will decide on whether to do RB/RB or RB/WR. Benson (if he lasts that late) or Addai are definite possibilities for me next. Pierre Thomas, maybe.

ah ya, mixed the 2 of you up, but my response was directed at you.Also note; the rodgers pick is great because it not only lands you positional advantage and crazy FF points, but if he falls back down to the players who were lucky enough to score a top 5 RB, their teams become instant contenders. so, in essence, you negate the advantage the early drafters got, and prevent them from grabbing another top teir player at a different position. win win

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

I just took Steven Jackson at #11. If he falls, he's hard to pass up there in most formats.

No PPR. 6 pt. passing TDs, and Rodgers, Brees, Manning ALL gone. I think there is a drop of RB scoring after Jackson (still good players though) so I took him over Moss. Will almost certainly go WR in round 2.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

as I mentioned earlier... the 3/4 turn, id start to look WR/RB or RB/RB... but I think you can score a Nicks/Crabtree/Other WR and a giuseppe addai as a solid, undervalued RB... but most importantly, see who falls!!!

Took Colston and Addai. Colston (and Boldin) both were available because lots of RBs went early. Struggled with Addai vs. Stewart.I could see taking three RBs/one WR in next four rounds.

 

[rizzler]

as I mentioned earlier... the 3/4 turn, id start to look WR/RB or RB/RB... but I think you can score a Nicks/Crabtree/Other WR and a giuseppe addai as a solid, undervalued RB... but most importantly, see who falls!!!

Took Colston and Addai. Colston (and Boldin) both were available because lots of RBs went early. Struggled with Addai vs. Stewart.I could see taking three RBs/one WR in next four rounds.

looks good so far. colston is a nice pick over boldin. i knew addai would be there... he shouldnt be; but he is. a steal.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

i knew addai would be there... he shouldnt be; but he is. a steal.

I expected he'd be there, too. 4.02 was early based on ADP, but picking near the turn requires that sometimes. I was hoping for Benson to fall, but knowing the person @ 3.09 didn't have an RB yet, either, I knew she'd take him.

 

[delusional]

Had my draft sunday with one team that was kinda out of it.

QBs get 6pt TDs

TEs get 2pts per 15yds recieving

I went

1 Greene

2 Moss

3 Addai

4 Boldin

5 Bowe

6 Matt Ryan

7 Forsett

8 Zach Miller

9 LT

10 Don Brown

11 49ers D

12 Douglas ( no WRs left )

13 Stafford

14 Rackers

15 Heath Miller

Some notes.

TEs -TE run started after my pick in the 4th ( 4.02 ). Up until my 5.11 pick, Gates Whiten Davis Finely Clark Celek Daniels went. Then Cooley & Gonzo went in the 6th. I thought they would slide another round. So I am hoping one of the Millers do well at least.

WRs - I got Douglas in the 12th. He is my 4th. Their literally was nothing left out there

So overall my team is looking like

QB: Ryan ( Stafford )

RB: Greene + Addai ( Forsett, LT, Brown )

WR: R.Moss + Boldin ( or Bowe )

TE: Zach Miller ( or Heath )

K: Rackers

D: 49ers

Solid group I think

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Really surprised to see Heath Miller last that long.

 

[Tick]

1.11 Turner, Michael ATL RB 2.02 Moss, Randy NEP WR 3.11 Rice, Sidney MIN WR 4.02 Gates, Antonio SDC TE 5.11 Forte, Matt CHI RB 6.02 Driver, Donald GBP WR 7.11 Flacco, Joe BAL QB 8.02 Britt, Kenny TEN WR 9.11 Brown, Donald IND RB With only.5 PPR for RBs, I was pleased with Turner at 11. But because he was available one of the other stud WRs was gone, so I couldn't pass him up. Becuase it's only 4 per passing TD (and best ball), I let QB slide and snagged a couple of decent ones. With 1 PPR for WR/TE, I figured hitting those positions hard was more important. Later in the draft a snagged Aromashadu & Bennet from Chicago for the same reason you picked VY and Roy Williams - they could put up a big week.I think snagging a TE at the 3/4 turn is important, as that TE run would then happen in that huge gap of picks between 4.02 and 5.11 and you might get stuck with some meh leftovers.

Interesting - different format, different scoring, and we drafted very similarly. Gates at the 3/4 turn, QB at the 7/8, RB/WR everywhere else.

 

[The Big Donkey]

In one currently...my first four picks.

Moss

Roddy White

Pierre Thomas

Addai

 

[The Big Donkey]

Round 5 - Nicks

Round 6 - CJ SPiller

Round 7 - Santana Moss

Round 8 - Jay Cutler

 

[The Big Donkey]

Round 9 - McNabb

Round 10 - Donald Brown

Round 11 - Kellen Winslow

Round 12 - Eddie Royal

 

[The Big Donkey]

Round 13 - Buckhalter

Round 14 - Manningham

Round 15 - Folk

Round 16 - Pats

 

[DoubleG]

League 7 Survivor from the 11:1.11 Turner, Michael ATL RB 2.02 Moss, Randy NEP WR 3.11 Rice, Sidney MIN WR 4.02 Gates, Antonio SDC TE 5.11 Forte, Matt CHI RB 6.02 Driver, Donald GBP WR 7.11 Flacco, Joe BAL QB 8.02 Britt, Kenny TEN WR 9.11 Brown, Donald IND RB

Oh well - good luck to everyone else.

 

[Texasmouth]

I have this spot in two different leagues...first league I went Marshall and Austin with my first two picks.

Marshall was one game away from being the 2nd best overall fantasy WR last season because he sat out that last game. Austin will be great as well.

I love going WR-WR at the 10-12 spot in a PPR draft. Has always worked out well for me.

 

[Texasmouth]

I have never and will never take a QB in the first round, Aaron Rodgers is no exception. Screws the rest of your team.

 

[bulger2holt]

I have this spot in two different leagues...first league I went Marshall and Austin with my first two picks. Marshall was one game away from being the 2nd best overall fantasy WR last season because he sat out that last game. Austin will be great as well. I love going WR-WR at the 10-12 spot in a PPR draft. Has always worked out well for me.

Same here. Who are you targeting in rd 3 and 4 ? And also the rest of the draft ?

 

[Judge Smails]

Our league is QB heavy as it is a 6 point TD league. Also 5 point bonuses for 300 point games. I know a lot of people say that the scoring system doesn't matter, but I've been in this league for 10+ years and the SuperBowl winner in almost every case had a stud QB. 100+ point separations betwen the top 3 and the #10 QB are hard to overcome, and some are just disastrous. So, my latest thinking for the draft on Saturday - 12 team non PPR, all TD's 6 points, 5 point bonuses for 100/300:

Pretty sure the first 7 off the board will be:

CJ

Rice

ADP

MJD

Gore

AJ

Turner

Maybeeeee Turner slips, but that's it. So, the question is what will 8, 9, 10 go? Rodgers goes for sure. I'm thinking Brees very likely as well. That takes it to 9. So, the guy at 10 could go Manning or Moss. My considerations for my picks at 11 and 14:

Moss

Calvin Johnson

Miles Austin

Peyton Manning

Ryan Matthews

I will not take Steven Jackson or Larry Fitzgerald under any circumstance with those 2 picks, and, though I could be wrong, just don't feel like Mendenhall is who I want to build my team around. DeAngelo is the only one giving me some pause, but just don't like the split.

Currently thinking of taking Manning if he's there. Dude had 9 300 yard games last year, missed 2 others by 2 yards, and has his best receiving corps ever. If Brees is available instead I'll take him. Guy at 12 will certainly take 1 stud WR - maybe 2 of Moss/Calvin/Austin. If all 3 go I'm taking Matthews. Just love his situation and he has passed my visual/sniff test each of the last 2 weeks. Think he'll have a great year with zero competition - and get to run on KC/Denver/Raiders a bunch. But I'm being flexible with the 5 above. If somehow a Turner slips I'm taking him in a heartbeat, then will take best available at 2. But if it goes as I think it will, I'll either have Peyton at 11 and then Matthews or Austin at 14, or Matthews at 11 and Austin/Calvin/Moss.

I've looked at future rounds and am happy with virtually any combination of the 6 players above - though I doubt I'll go WR/WR. Am I high?

 

[Judge Smails]

Bout time somebody started one..I'm in a 6 point TD league and my bet is Rogers will be available at 11 for sure and possibly at 13. Still 99% sure I'm not going that route. Pretty sure I'm going 1 RB and 1 WR. Just have to choose the right one. For sure ADP, CJ, MJD, Rice, Gore and Andre Johnson will be gone. After those 6 it's a bit of a crapshoot in my league. Figuring that Michael Turner goes somewhere in the mix. That's 7. Somebody will probably go Steven Jackson, though outside chance he slides. Lots of people are down on Moss in our league, including me (owned him last year), so he may slip. I think I'm going to end up with a Rashard Mendenhall and a Miles Austin combo (will likely reach for him over Calvin Johnson and maybe Fitz). I really want a S. Greene or Jamal Charles type on my roster, but I just can't reach that early. We're a 3WR start league, so really want at least one stud. Hoping that I can get a Cedric Benson type in round 3 followed by a solid WR2, then get an Ahmad Bradshaw type in mid rounds to firm up running game. QB - I think I'm waiting this year and going and Eli/Kolb type in 6 or 7. I know I can resist Rogers, Manning and Brees with my 11 and 13 picks, the real discipline will be if Romo or someone is there at the 3/4 turn. I really think I have to in order to field the best team..

Flip flopping the final 48 hours before the draft as usual!!!

 

[Timmay]

I had the 11th overall pick last night in a draft and i decided to go with Randy Moss...then after the turn in a 12 teamer, Steven Jackson was still there, so i decided i had to go with him.

 

[Tanner9919]

I'm at a loss what to do in the 11 spot this year. I actually had it last year too and did WR/WR and got AJ and CJ.... my mistake was not taking 2 RB's @ the 3/4 turn.... and K. Smith was the one I did take =( Start 2 RB and 2 WR and scoring is 1 PPR with 4pt passing TD's so a stud QB isn't as tempting at 11/14.I doubt a RB will slide to me so I think if a want a RB out of 11/14 I'm gonna have to go Mendy or Dwill.... but eh??? I'll probably end up going WR/WR again but do a better job of securing RBs and play the QB combo game @ the 7/8 turn.Draft starts in the morning. Will update with picks.

go WR/WR (unless dwill is there, id take him)... and at the 3/4 turn id def grab addai... majorly undervalued

Addai undervalued? more like overvalued. O-line is shambles.look at last nights game, minus one 50 yard run, the colts were something like 20 rushes for 31 yards. I'd rather have Foster who can be had with a 5th-6th round pick..

 

[j0novision]

OK, here's my finished draft from the 11 spot:

1 Cal. Johnson

2 J. Charles

3 S. Smith (CAR)

4 J. Best

5 W. Welker

6 A. Bradshaw

7 H. Nicks

8 J. Knox

9 T. Hightower

10 D. Brown

11 D. McCluster

12 M. Ryan

13 Z. Miller

14 D. Ryans

15 K. Dansby

16 L. Tynes

17 J. Arenas

18 K. Orton

Start 1 QB, 2 WR, 2 RB, 1 WR/RB, 1 TE, 1 K, 2 LB, 1 DB All touchdowns 6pts, return yards 25yd/pt all other 20yd/pt

Jonathon

 

[Judge Smails]

OK, here's my finished draft from the 11 spot:1 Cal. Johnson2 J. Charles3 S. Smith (CAR)4 J. Best5 W. Welker6 A. Bradshaw7 H. Nicks8 J. Knox9 T. Hightower10 D. Brown11 D. McCluster12 M. Ryan13 Z. Miller14 D. Ryans15 K. Dansby16 L. Tynes17 J. Arenas18 K. OrtonStart 1 QB, 2 WR, 2 RB, 1 WR/RB, 1 TE, 1 K, 2 LB, 1 DB All touchdowns 6pts, return yards 25yd/pt all other 20yd/ptJonathon

Good base, but personally I think you get buried in an all TD 6point league with Matt Ryan as your starter. Hard to see much upside. I can see waiting, but round 12???

 

[Judge Smails]

Had my shark/big money league draft last night. 6 point all TD's, no PPR, 5 point bonuses for 100/300 yards. Start 1 QB, 2 RB's, 3WR's.

1st 10 picks off the board were pretty predictable for our league scoring - CJ, ADP, Rodgers, MJD, Turner, Brees, Rice, AJ, Moss, Gore. My draft:

1.11 Peyton Manning

2.02 Miles Austin

3.11 Arian Foster (bet my season on him, needed upside)

4.02 Antonio Gates (TE's are hugely undervalued in our league, outproduce WR2's consistently but still slip)

5.11 LT

6.02 Vernon Davis

7.11 Michael Bush

8.02 Ricky Williams

9.11 Brent Celek (ridiculous he lasted this long)

10.02 Saints D (big D run starting with Jets in round 8)

11.11 Gostkowski

12.02 Steve Slaton (Foster insurance)

13.11 Josh Freeman (plays the Rams at home when Manning has a bye)

14.02 Raiders D

If Foster hits as I expect I think this team will put up a lot of points. Manning has more weapons than ever and with 30 TD's and anything close to the 10 300 yard games he had last year he will put up 30+ points a week (Brady went next pick, Romo/Schaub early 3rd). At RB, obviously need Foster to be a workhorse and start for me every week. I'm very high on LT, and will start him until he proves me otherwise. If either Bush (drafted right when he broke his thumb - oh well) or Ricky (7th in our league for all RB's last year) hit I could be fine. Love my starting WR's - totally happy with starting Austin/Gates/Vernon Davis every week - should be a very consistent group with lots of TD's. Gostkowski went something like the 7th kicker overall, surprised to get him. We'll see about the Saints. Give up lots of yards but get turnovers with Gregg Williams.. Overall happy with my team but may need to shore up RB's and D throughout the year.

Other observations:

Buzz on Finley is red hot - he went at 3.02 to the Rodgers owner in a non TE mandatory league. Unbelievable.

Lots of value in mid rounds with RB's. The hot rookies (Best and Spiller) went back to back in mid round 5. Matthews went at 2.03. (I considered him but backed off watching the game the other night - may regret it).

Favre (9th) and Roethlisberger (11th) really slipped.

Sidney Rice went in the 10th, Vincent Jackson in the 11th.

Re RB's, Shon Greene went 2.05 to the Jets fan, and Jamaal Charles went 3.04.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

I just took Steven Jackson at #11. If he falls, he's hard to pass up there in most formats.No PPR. 6 pt. passing TDs, and Rodgers, Brees, Manning ALL gone. I think there is a drop of RB scoring after Jackson (still good players though) so I took him over Moss. Will almost certainly go WR in round 2.

Oh yeah, this turned out pretty well. Here are my first 10 rounds, for anyone who cares, which is everyone.Steven Jackson RB STLRandy Moss WR NEMarques Colston WR NOChad Ochocinco WR CINJahvid Best RB DETArian Foster RB HOUHakeem Nicks WR NYGJay Cutler QB CHIDevin Hester WR CHIKellen Winslow TE TB

 

[Judge Smails]

I just took Steven Jackson at #11. If he falls, he's hard to pass up there in most formats.No PPR. 6 pt. passing TDs, and Rodgers, Brees, Manning ALL gone. I think there is a drop of RB scoring after Jackson (still good players though) so I took him over Moss. Will almost certainly go WR in round 2.

Oh yeah, this turned out pretty well. Here are my first 10 rounds, for anyone who cares, which is everyone.Steven Jackson RB STLRandy Moss WR NEMarques Colston WR NOChad Ochocinco WR CINJahvid Best RB DETArian Foster RB HOUHakeem Nicks WR NYGJay Cutler QB CHIDevin Hester WR CHIKellen Winslow TE TB

Wow. GREAT draft. If Cutler hits and SJax stays healthy you should be extremely tough to beat.

 

[Tuco]

I used this thread to help prepare so I'll try and give back by saying how it went for me last night.

12 team, PPR, 6 pt TD (including QB), start 2 RB, 2 WR, Flex RB/WR, TE mandatory . I'd rank the league a 7 out of 12 in terms of expertise.

1st Rd

1. CJ

2. Ray Rice (drafted in baltimore)

3. AP

4. MJD

5. Gore

6. AJ

7. Rodgers

8. Brees

9. Manning

10. Turner (I was really hoping he would fall to me)

11. Moss

12. S Jackson

2.1 Wayne

2.2 Mathews

So, I ended up with Moss and Mathews after 2 rounds. I liked it yesterday, but am loving it today. Partly because of the Mathews thread that is pumping him up. I would have gone Turner if he was there in the 1st, and by Wayne and Jackson being taken at the turn, it made picking Mathews pretty easy for me.

When it got back to me in the 3rd, I was looking at Grant or S Green. I ended up going Grant and Green went right after me. The top 5-6 QB's had already been taken and there was just a run on WR's leading up to my 3rd round pick. I ended up going Dallas Clark in the 4th. TE is required, and in a PPR league I thought he was the best available player. I was also looking at Best, Spiller and Foster but thought it would be reaching a little taking them at 4.2.

Best and Spiller went before my next pick and I took A. Foster without hesitation at 5.11. I got my WR2 in the 6th with P Garcon. Since I waited until the end of the 7th to take a QB, I went Cutler at 7.11 and Favre at 8.2. Hopefully one of them will be serviceable throughout the season.

I finished my position players in order starting in the 9th: Fred Jackson, Steve Slaton, Devin Hester, M Williams (TB), J Gafney.

My last two picks were Rackers and the Bears DST.

I ended up with:

Cutler

Favre

Mathews

Grant

Foster

Jackson

Slaton

Moss

Garcon

Hester

Williams

Gafney

Clark

Rackers

Bears

I wasn't thrilled with the 11 spot going into the draft, but I feel good about what I was able to walk away with.