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***Official*** Post your 2015 Rookie Draft (1 Viewer)
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TheBottomLine
Footballguy
Here are the two leagues that I'm in.
This one is starting TONIGHT. PPR + IDP.
http://football12.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=46238&O=17
This other one is LIVE. PPR + IDP as well.
http://football18.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=23464&O=17
If either of the settings are set up to where you cannot view it, let me know and I willl fix the first one myself and have the commish of the other league fix the second one.
This one is starting TONIGHT. PPR + IDP.
http://football12.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=46238&O=17
This other one is LIVE. PPR + IDP as well.
http://football18.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=23464&O=17
If either of the settings are set up to where you cannot view it, let me know and I willl fix the first one myself and have the commish of the other league fix the second one.
eNdblu
Footballguy
Not involved but saw this league tweeted as starting by @Harahduh2 of UTH
http://football16.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=12144&O=17
http://football16.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=12144&O=17
One More Rep
Footballguy
Cooper at 1.3 in both is interesting. Agholor dropping to 1.10 looks like a nice value also
FUBAR
Footballguy
Every player available twice in a 32 team league: http://football2.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=20654&O=17
Makes for some interesting notes where one owner takes a player, then the 2nd version of that player goes a lot later. Doesn't happen too often until we get out of the first 40 or so picks, but you'll notice Gurley went 1.01 and then both Coopers and White went.
Makes for some interesting notes where one owner takes a player, then the 2nd version of that player goes a lot later. Doesn't happen too often until we get out of the first 40 or so picks, but you'll notice Gurley went 1.01 and then both Coopers and White went.
Heep
Footballguy
A lot of guys from the board so I'll just post in here since I know they have other drafts to do...
12 Team PPR Dynasty (1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE) (My Picks)
1.01 - Cooper
1.02 - Gordon
1.03 - Gurley
1.04 - White
1.05 - Parker
1.06 - Perriman
1.07 - DGB
1.08 - Yeldon
1.09 - Agholor
1.10 - Coleman
1.11 - Abdullah
1.12 - Strong
2.01 - Dorsett
2.02 - D. Cobb
2.03 - Duke
2.04 - Ajayi
2.05 - Jameis
2.06 - Funchess
2.07 - D. Johnson
2.08 - Mariota
2.09 - M. Williams
2.10 - D. Smith
2.11 - Coates
2.12 - Langford
3.01 - Lockett
3.02 - Conley
3.03 - J. Allen
3.04 - K. Bell
3.05 - M. Davis
3.06 - Hardy
3.07 - J. Robinson
5 picks from being complete...
12 Team PPR Dynasty (1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE) (My Picks)
1.01 - Cooper
1.02 - Gordon
1.03 - Gurley
1.04 - White
1.05 - Parker
1.06 - Perriman
1.07 - DGB
1.08 - Yeldon
1.09 - Agholor
1.10 - Coleman
1.11 - Abdullah
1.12 - Strong
2.01 - Dorsett
2.02 - D. Cobb
2.03 - Duke
2.04 - Ajayi
2.05 - Jameis
2.06 - Funchess
2.07 - D. Johnson
2.08 - Mariota
2.09 - M. Williams
2.10 - D. Smith
2.11 - Coates
2.12 - Langford
3.01 - Lockett
3.02 - Conley
3.03 - J. Allen
3.04 - K. Bell
3.05 - M. Davis
3.06 - Hardy
3.07 - J. Robinson
5 picks from being complete...
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TheBottomLine
Footballguy
That was me that took Agholor. I had a whale of a time picking between him and Yeldon.One More Rep said:
cstu
Footballguy
One More Rep
Footballguy
Yeah I have a couple 1.6 picks and I think they are going to be the 2 I am looking at. Tough call for me also
msudaisy26
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Perriman feels like a reach, or maybe I am devaluing him too much because of his quarterback.
jeaton6
Footballguy
ptsteelers
Footballguy
I agree. 100%. But I will be grabbing him at 1.6
*Mett owner*
EDIT - Helps I have picks 2-6
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jeaton6
Footballguy
Why? Trade back or select BPA them just trade for a vet..I agree. 100%. But I will be grabbing him at 1.6
*Mett owner*
EDIT - Helps I have picks 2-6
ptsteelers
Footballguy
Well I like the "idea" of what he can become, so a part of me wants the risk. Plus I can't trade back to the spot I would need to be to still retain him. People are pretty happy with what they think they are getting and where they think they are getting them, but if he were to become open ....Why? Trade back or select BPA them just trade for a vet..I agree. 100%. But I will be grabbing him at 1.6
*Mett owner*
EDIT - Helps I have picks 2-6
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jeaton6
Footballguy
Well can you trade back from 1.2 or 1.3 to late 1st? Seems like giving up a lot of value picking a player that's probably a consensus early 2 at 1.6.Well I like the "idea" of what he can become, so a part of me wants the risk. Plus I can't trade back to the spot I would need to be to still retain him. People are pretty happy with what they think they are getting and where they think they are getting them, but if he were to become open ....Why? Trade back or select BPA them just trade for a vet..I agree. 100%. But I will be grabbing him at 1.6
*Mett owner*
EDIT - Helps I have picks 2-6
cstu
Footballguy
And here I thought I was his biggest fan. In the league I have the 1.6 I already have Luck so Mariota is not even on the radar for me.Well I like the "idea" of what he can become, so a part of me wants the risk. Plus I can't trade back to the spot I would need to be to still retain him. People are pretty happy with what they think they are getting and where they think they are getting them, but if he were to become open ....Why? Trade back or select BPA them just trade for a vet..I agree. 100%. But I will be grabbing him at 1.6
*Mett owner*
EDIT - Helps I have picks 2-6
Haven't spent the time to do real ranking yet, but I don't have him as a 1st round pick.
ptsteelers
Footballguy
Well sure, but I am not losing my shot at Gordon, Cooper and White for MariotaWell can you trade back from 1.2 or 1.3 to late 1st? Seems like giving up a lot of value picking a player that's probably a consensus early 2 at 1.6.Well I like the "idea" of what he can become, so a part of me wants the risk. Plus I can't trade back to the spot I would need to be to still retain him. People are pretty happy with what they think they are getting and where they think they are getting them, but if he were to become open ....Why? Trade back or select BPA them just trade for a vet..I agree. 100%. But I will be grabbing him at 1.6
*Mett owner*
EDIT - Helps I have picks 2-6
. And yes, it is early, as I agreed earlier, but picking a guy 6 spots before his "ADP" is not really that big a deal to me when I have the need at the position and want to get young at that position at the same time. If he misses, sure I blew a 1.6, but if he hits it will be worth the gamble. And as I think that is a 50/50 proposition ... I tell myself "why not?".ptsteelers
Footballguy
And here I thought I was his biggest fan. In the league I have the 1.6 I already have Luck so Mariota is not even on the radar for me.Well I like the "idea" of what he can become, so a part of me wants the risk. Plus I can't trade back to the spot I would need to be to still retain him. People are pretty happy with what they think they are getting and where they think they are getting them, but if he were to become open ....Why? Trade back or select BPA them just trade for a vet..I agree. 100%. But I will be grabbing him at 1.6
*Mett owner*
EDIT - Helps I have picks 2-6
Haven't spent the time to do real ranking yet, but I don't have him as a 1st round pick.
I am not "a fan" as much as a guy willing to take a chance when I have the ...errr ... chance.
Again, if I only had this one pick I would be spending it elsewhere, Parker most chances or Agholor or whomever falls to me that is in my top 6, but as I have the other picks and the need ... eh, take a chance I say.loose circuits
Footballguy
shocked if you couldn't pick up an extra 2 and move down to 1.12 or so. I would trade up in a second from that spot to get my guy at 6Well sure, but I am not losing my shot at Gordon, Cooper and White for MariotaWell can you trade back from 1.2 or 1.3 to late 1st? Seems like giving up a lot of value picking a player that's probably a consensus early 2 at 1.6.Well I like the "idea" of what he can become, so a part of me wants the risk. Plus I can't trade back to the spot I would need to be to still retain him. People are pretty happy with what they think they are getting and where they think they are getting them, but if he were to become open ....Why? Trade back or select BPA them just trade for a vet..I agree. 100%. But I will be grabbing him at 1.6
*Mett owner*
EDIT - Helps I have picks 2-6
ptsteelers
Footballguy
*sigh*shocked if you couldn't pick up an extra 2 and move down to 1.12 or so. I would trade up in a second from that spot to get my guy at 6Well sure, but I am not losing my shot at Gordon, Cooper and White for MariotaWell can you trade back from 1.2 or 1.3 to late 1st? Seems like giving up a lot of value picking a player that's probably a consensus early 2 at 1.6.Well I like the "idea" of what he can become, so a part of me wants the risk. Plus I can't trade back to the spot I would need to be to still retain him. People are pretty happy with what they think they are getting and where they think they are getting them, but if he were to become open ....Why? Trade back or select BPA them just trade for a vet..I agree. 100%. But I will be grabbing him at 1.6
*Mett owner*
EDIT - Helps I have picks 2-6
Like I said, he will get picked by another owner if I were to do that. Trust me guys, I understand my choice is not a popular one, but I am more than happy with it. I also only have about 6 players I want to drop from my current roster (27 active players and 2 allowed on IR) so adding more players in not really a play for me.
Yes, I could then trade those extra players away for more picks in the future, but honestly, I am happy here, guys.
I get how others would do it differently, but knowing the entire story I am fully aware of what I am and what I am not doing and how odd that choice is from the outside looking in.
jeaton6
Footballguy
All good different strokes...*sigh*Like I said, he will get picked by another owner if I were to do that. Trust me guys, I understand my choice is not a popular one, but I am more than happy with it. I also only have about 6 players I want to drop from my current roster (27 active players and 2 allowed on IR) so adding more players in not really a play for me.shocked if you couldn't pick up an extra 2 and move down to 1.12 or so. I would trade up in a second from that spot to get my guy at 6Well sure, but I am not losing my shot at Gordon, Cooper and White for MariotaWell can you trade back from 1.2 or 1.3 to late 1st? Seems like giving up a lot of value picking a player that's probably a consensus early 2 at 1.6.Well I like the "idea" of what he can become, so a part of me wants the risk. Plus I can't trade back to the spot I would need to be to still retain him. People are pretty happy with what they think they are getting and where they think they are getting them, but if he were to become open ....Why? Trade back or select BPA them just trade for a vet..I agree. 100%. But I will be grabbing him at 1.6
*Mett owner*
EDIT - Helps I have picks 2-6
Yes, I could then trade those extra players away for more picks in the future, but honestly, I am happy here, guys.
I get how others would do it differently, but knowing the entire story I am fully aware of what I am and what I am not doing and how odd that choice is from the outside looking in.
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
In the first link, I am Daenerys Targaryen. Already had Joique Bell and Devonta Freeman, am absolutely stoked to get Abdullah at 1.09 and Coleman at 2.02.
ptsteelers
Footballguy
All good different strokes...*sigh*Like I said, he will get picked by another owner if I were to do that. Trust me guys, I understand my choice is not a popular one, but I am more than happy with it. I also only have about 6 players I want to drop from my current roster (27 active players and 2 allowed on IR) so adding more players in not really a play for me.shocked if you couldn't pick up an extra 2 and move down to 1.12 or so. I would trade up in a second from that spot to get my guy at 6Well sure, but I am not losing my shot at Gordon, Cooper and White for MariotaWell can you trade back from 1.2 or 1.3 to late 1st? Seems like giving up a lot of value picking a player that's probably a consensus early 2 at 1.6.Well I like the "idea" of what he can become, so a part of me wants the risk. Plus I can't trade back to the spot I would need to be to still retain him. People are pretty happy with what they think they are getting and where they think they are getting them, but if he were to become open ....Why? Trade back or select BPA them just trade for a vet..I agree. 100%. But I will be grabbing him at 1.6
*Mett owner*
EDIT - Helps I have picks 2-6
Yes, I could then trade those extra players away for more picks in the future, but honestly, I am happy here, guys.
I get how others would do it differently, but knowing the entire story I am fully aware of what I am and what I am not doing and how odd that choice is from the outside looking in.
exactlyOurs just started today. Pretty much going right as planned through the first 5 picks.
http://football18.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=24338&O=17
http://football18.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=24338&O=17
Borden
Footballguy
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
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1.01 Gurley, Todd STL RB
1.02 Gordon, Melvin SDC RB
1.03 Cooper, Amari OAK WR
1.04 White, Kevin CHI WR
1.05 Parker, DeVante MIA WR
1.06 Agholor, Nelson PHI WR
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Denver724
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
doowain
Footballguy
Referring to the guy who is taking Mariota at 1.06 and people blasting him for it.
doowain
Footballguy
It's not hindsight to say that. It really isn't so much about the players in the example as it is about how owners shouldn't just blindly follow rankings or team need. I was guilty of it in one league last year when, although I was sky high on Beckham (had owned him for two years in a devy league so I was more than sold on him) I took a team need instead. I had the 1.03 and bent to team need and rankings and drafted Sankey. I'll always regret that and not make the same mistake again. If I believe in a guy and have to take him before his "ranking" I'll have no problem doing it.Rookie drafts are different to me than startup drafts.
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jeaton6
Footballguy
No one blasting him. Only trying to understand where he's coming from.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
One that started tonight:
http://football16.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=44891&O=17
12 team PPR, flexible lineups (1 QB, 1-3 RB's, 1-4 WR's, 1-3 TE's)
http://football16.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=44891&O=17
12 team PPR, flexible lineups (1 QB, 1-3 RB's, 1-4 WR's, 1-3 TE's)
doowain
Footballguy
OK let me rephrase. People said they didn't understand it because he was losing value and someone even said it was a wasted pick. Now I don't really have a comment on Mariota at 1.06. My comments are all about how rankings are silly to me in rookie drafts, other than as a loose guideline). They are all based on projections without anything to base them on except talent (everyone has their own opinion on each player) and situation (more tangible but still not concrete - ie McCoy went in mid 1st in his rookie drafts because Westbrook was there).
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jeaton6
Footballguy
The rankings or more specifically rookie ADP data used mean a lot to me. I don't watch film like some of you guys so having that loose guideline is invaluable to understanding where players on the average will go. That information then can be used to accumulate more assets. Sometimes you will miss out on your guy by not reaching for them but more times than not I've been able to trade back to a comfortable spot get additional value and still get the guy I was targeting.
Personally if you're going to use a premium pick on a QB I'd much rather take a shot at trading for RW (I think he could be acquired for the 1.6 in many leagues).
BTW- person said the 1.9 was a wasted pick I can only imagine what they'd think about using the 1.6!
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
That's how to waste a draft pick. Package the pick for a late first and an improvement in a player, or for a first next year, anything. Picking a player that early is a move I only see the worst teams in my leagues make. And every league I've ever been people are dieing to move up. I highly doubt everyone in the league is waiting for you to move down so they can swoop in and grab a rookie qb who went to a horrible landing spot. You already said they don't want to trade up because they have their player targeted but yet they are all trying to pick Mariota just to keep you from drafting him. You got some paranoia issuesAll good different strokes...*sigh*
Like I said, he will get picked by another owner if I were to do that. Trust me guys, I understand my choice is not a popular one, but I am more than happy with it. I also only have about 6 players I want to drop from my current roster (27 active players and 2 allowed on IR) so adding more players in not really a play for me.
Yes, I could then trade those extra players away for more picks in the future, but honestly, I am happy here, guys.
I get how others would do it differently, but knowing the entire story I am fully aware of what I am and what I am not doing and how odd that choice is from the outside looking in.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
If it's a 12 team start 1 QB league, then people are right to blast him for it.
Do you realize how good he would have to be to justify that pick?
PLus the "group think" phrase gets thrown around a lot, but usually the perceived group think is really people ranking what they say combined with the NFL draft. Is it really considered grout think if people put some trust in professional NFL scouting departments and GM's who's multi million dollar contracts are on the line?
If a GM takes a RB in round 2, is it really going out on a limb to have everyone rank that guy ahead of a RB taken in round 4?
I agree sometimes group think does affect some market value, but a bad pick is a bad pick. Mariotta at 6 is just a bad pick philosophically in a 12 team start 1 QB league.
Dragon1952
Footballguy
This was a pre-NFL draft rookie draft that was posted in an earlier thread
12 team, 1 PPR start 10 1QB, 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE, 1PK, 1DEF
http://football6.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=28062&O=17
12 team, 1 PPR start 10 1QB, 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE, 1PK, 1DEF
http://football6.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=28062&O=17
doowain
Footballguy
Group think had Odell Beckham, a WR taken 12th overall, going in the 1.06-1.10 range last year. After Bishop Sankey. A RB drafted 54th overall. So yes sometimes group think is way off.
A blend of your own personal feelings/evaluation and the market value of a player/pick is best used IMO. Especially in rookie drafts, which are historically volatile in how much different they look even a year later.
ptsteelers
Footballguy
Thanks Doowain, but I'm a big boy. I'm not worried about the board understanding my decisions, though most of them have been cool about it. Others, not so much.
Just wanted to post in the thread that is discussing players and where they are going in everyone's 2015 fantasy draft. I will post our complete draft when it is over (end of May) but for now, as I know where some guys are going, I thought I would post it to let people see it, use it as they will or, as the way of the board, judge the hell out of it.
It's all good. Not hurting my feelings or anything.
I did see above, a post about Mariota going 6th overall elsewhere so there seems to be two crazy peeps doing it.
Just wanted to post in the thread that is discussing players and where they are going in everyone's 2015 fantasy draft. I will post our complete draft when it is over (end of May) but for now, as I know where some guys are going, I thought I would post it to let people see it, use it as they will or, as the way of the board, judge the hell out of it.
It's all good. Not hurting my feelings or anything.
I did see above, a post about Mariota going 6th overall elsewhere so there seems to be two crazy peeps doing it.
ptsteelers
Footballguy
No, I have a need a QB.That's how to waste a draft pick. Package the pick for a late first and an improvement in a player, or for a first next year, anything. Picking a player that early is a move I only see the worst teams in my leagues make. And every league I've ever been people are dieing to move up. I highly doubt everyone in the league is waiting for you to move down so they can swoop in and grab a rookie qb who went to a horrible landing spot. You already said they don't want to trade up because they have their player targeted but yet they are all trying to pick Mariota just to keep you from drafting him. You got some paranoia issuesAll good different strokes...*sigh*
Like I said, he will get picked by another owner if I were to do that. Trust me guys, I understand my choice is not a popular one, but I am more than happy with it. I also only have about 6 players I want to drop from my current roster (27 active players and 2 allowed on IR) so adding more players in not really a play for me.
Yes, I could then trade those extra players away for more picks in the future, but honestly, I am happy here, guys.
I get how others would do it differently, but knowing the entire story I am fully aware of what I am and what I am not doing and how odd that choice is from the outside looking in.
And why wait on getting a player you want. I know value determination and all that, but I don't care. If a player is there that I want and I need, I'm gonna take him.
We have had this league up for about 14 years. I know what owners like what and I know if I wait on getting Mariota he will be gone. So why oh why would I risk waiting? Put that value scale aside. When you also have picks 2, 3, 4, and 5, know who you want at 6, when you know how your league thinks, when you know where your team needs help and when you are happy taking him where you are ...
Sorry guys, but yeah ... can't keep explaining it. You don't like my pick, great. You don't have to, ya know. I am here just to put the names to the picks they went.
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Spike
Footballguy
People are saying what they would do if they had the need to get a QB with that pick. They want validation from the masses on how they would go about it.No, I have a need a QB.That's how to waste a draft pick. Package the pick for a late first and an improvement in a player, or for a first next year, anything. Picking a player that early is a move I only see the worst teams in my leagues make. And every league I've ever been people are dieing to move up. I highly doubt everyone in the league is waiting for you to move down so they can swoop in and grab a rookie qb who went to a horrible landing spot. You already said they don't want to trade up because they have their player targeted but yet they are all trying to pick Mariota just to keep you from drafting him. You got some paranoia issuesAll good different strokes...*sigh*
Like I said, he will get picked by another owner if I were to do that. Trust me guys, I understand my choice is not a popular one, but I am more than happy with it. I also only have about 6 players I want to drop from my current roster (27 active players and 2 allowed on IR) so adding more players in not really a play for me.
Yes, I could then trade those extra players away for more picks in the future, but honestly, I am happy here, guys.
I get how others would do it differently, but knowing the entire story I am fully aware of what I am and what I am not doing and how odd that choice is from the outside looking in.
And why wait on getting a player you want. I know value determination and all that, but I don't care. If a player is there that I want and I need, I'm gonna take him.
We have had this league up for about 14 years. I know what owners like what and I know if I wait on getting Mariota he will be gone. So why oh why would I risk waiting? Put that value scale aside. When you also have picks 2, 3, 4, and 5, know who you want at 6, when you know how your league thinks, when you know where your team needs help and when you are happy taking him where you are ...
Sorry guys, but yeah ... can't keep explaining it. You don't like my pick, great. You don't have to, ya know. I am here just to put the names to the picks they went.
Pretty simple actually...and easy to understand if you look at the subtext.
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