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beavers said:
Personally, I don't think that the content of Trump's tweets are random anymore but are strategic. Timing? Distraction. Content? There's a reason for it. IIRC, he has someone tweeting for him (heard a story a few weeks ago on NPR)
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Is it that same overweight kid in his bedroom?

 
beavers said:
Personally, I don't think that the content of Trump's tweets are random anymore but are strategic. Timing? Distraction. Content? There's a reason for it. IIRC, he has someone tweeting for him (heard a story a few weeks ago on NPR)
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And just as I typed this, DJTs newest Tweet:

The resolution being considered at the United Nations Security Council regarding Israel should be vetoed.

As the United States has long maintained, peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians will only come through direct negotiations between the parties, and not through the imposition of terms by the United Nations.

This puts Israel in a very poor negotiating position and is extremely unfair to all Israelis.
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Fantasy Football Fairy said:
He's not the President yet and I see no problem with him trying to save millions. It's better than other politicians that don't give a rear end about how much money is spent.
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Seriously, and since he has experience in buying planes, I'm guessing he knew this deal was an overcharge. Anyone who sells something to the government knows that they don't care about prices as much as a private company does. 

 
Workhorse said:
Talk is cheap. Name one thing that Trump is doing or even plans to do to unite the country after waging the single most divisive campaign in modern American political history.
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If he really wants to mend fences (instead of just building them) the first thing he should do when he gets into office is nominate Merrick Garland for SCOTUS.  I think that would accomplish a few things:

1. It would be an acknowledgement that Obama had the right to make that pick as the legitimate president of the United States after so many years of Trump questioning his legitimacy with the birther nonsense.  He's not one for apologies, but this would be an olive branch of sorts. 

2. It would be an appointment that wouldn't be seen as crazy or extreme by anyone. 

3. It would show he's not going to play the kind of partisan games Republicans did when they denied Obama his right to fill that position. "Enough with the games, fellas. We're not doing politics like that anymore".   

4.  And if someone dies or retires in 2020, it's his pick to make, not the next guy.  He can re-establish that the president gets 4 years, not 3. 

 
shader said:
Seems like unfair criticism to me.  Except for the well done steak though.  That's inexcusable. 
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Its a good interview --he speaks to the disenfranchised folks.   "But I think to mock constantly, as so much of the left has done — to demonize, to ridicule, to treat with abject contempt people who live in a very different America than they live in — is both ugly and counterproductive. There are a lot of people who are pissed off, they’re tired of being talked to like that. There are a lot of people in this world who, when an Applebee’s moves to their town, it’s a big deal — and I don’t mean that in a dismissive way. Where somebody coming to take your guns away is a big concern. "

 
avoiding injuries said:
Seriously, and since he has experience in buying planes, I'm guessing he knew this deal was an overcharge. Anyone who sells something to the government knows that they don't care about prices as much as a private company does. 
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This is totally wrong. The government is generally obliged by law to select vendors who satisfy the criteria at the lowest bid price, private companies are under no such obligation and frequently make extravagant purchases.

Also Donald Trump has zero experience with Air Force one, which includes security measures and high-tech communications capabilities.  By his own admission his ten year old son knows more about "the cyber" than he does.  He was pretty clearly taking his revenge on Boeing for comments about him by their CEO that had just been published, not trying to negotiate a better deal.

 
CNN)"Drain the swamp" was a refrain of Donald Trump during the presidential campaign, but Newt Gingrich says the president-elect "doesn't want to use it anymore" now that he's knee-deep in alligators.
"I'm told he now just disclaims that. He now says it was cute, but he doesn't want to use it anymore," Gingrich, who informally advises Trump, said Wednesday on NPR's "Morning Edition."
The former House Speaker said that he had "written what I thought was a very cute tweet about 'the alligators are complaining,'" but that "somebody wrote back and said they were tired of hearing this stuff."
During his campaign, Trump repeatedly vowed to "drain the swamp" -- leading chants of the phrase at his rallies -- part of an anti-establishment, anti-Washington message that was predicated on rooting out corruption and bringing an outsider's perspective to government.
But since the election, the phrase has been turned against Trump with biting irony.

Critics have used it to assail Trump's high-level appointments of Wall Street and DC veterans, like former Goldman Sachs executive Steven Mnuchin as treasury secretary and Sen. Jeff Sessions as attorney general. Ron Klain, a former Obama administration official, tweeted, "Sure, Drain the Swamp. Congrats to all you outsiders who thought that Hillary Clinton was too establishment."
Gingrich explained away the gap between Trump's rhetoric and actions, saying that "he's in a different role now, and maybe he feels that as president, as the next president of the United States, that he should be marginally more dignified than talking about alligators in swamps" -- a euphemism for the kind of establishment insiders Trump vowed to expel.
"I personally have a sense of humor, like the alligator and swamp language," Gingrich said. "I think it vividly illustrates the problem, because all the people in this city who are alligators are going to hate the swamp being drained. And there's going to be constant fighting over it."
Still, Gingrich -- a DC fixture himself -- sounded ready to drop the phrase as well. "You know, he is my leader, and if he decides to drop the swamp and the alligator, I will drop the swamp and the alligator."
Trump himself has expressed mixed views on the "drain the swamp" line. At a rally in Ohio in late October, he explained that he hadn't liked the expression at first, but that it had grown on him.
"We are going to drain the swamp. You know, that phrase started about a week ago, and I thought it was terrible. I didn't like it at all. I said I don't know; I just don't like it. And now it's become one of the hottest phrases anywhere in the world and I'm saying I like it," Trump said at the time.
"That's like -- did you ever see the great singers, Frank Sinatra, some of his greatest hits he didn't like them. But at the end he liked them very much. Right? It's what happened with drain the swamp. It's a great phrase. But it's true. The people like it. That's much more important."

 
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You know who started the "Drain the swamp" phrase? Hillary Clinton.  Donald trump ended it.

I suspect he's worried it'll end up being thrown back at him like Hope and Change did Obama, and he's trying to head some of that off...but the train has left the station, horses out of barn, and any other apt metaphors.

 
Jeremy said:
If he really wants to mend fences (instead of just building them) the first thing he should do when he gets into office is nominate Merrick Garland for SCOTUS.  I think that would accomplish a few things:

1. It would be an acknowledgement that Obama had the right to make that pick as the legitimate president of the United States after so many years of Trump questioning his legitimacy with the birther nonsense.  He's not one for apologies, but this would be an olive branch of sorts. 

2. It would be an appointment that wouldn't be seen as crazy or extreme by anyone. 

3. It would show he's not going to play the kind of partisan games Republicans did when they denied Obama his right to fill that position. "Enough with the games, fellas. We're not doing politics like that anymore".   

4.  And if someone dies or retires in 2020, it's his pick to make, not the next guy.  He can re-establish that the president gets 4 years, not 3. 
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It would be a brilliant move.  

 
Sabertooth said:
Jeremy said:
If he really wants to mend fences (instead of just building them) the first thing he should do when he gets into office is nominate Merrick Garland for SCOTUS.  I think that would accomplish a few things:

1. It would be an acknowledgement that Obama had the right to make that pick as the legitimate president of the United States after so many years of Trump questioning his legitimacy with the birther nonsense.  He's not one for apologies, but this would be an olive branch of sorts. 

2. It would be an appointment that wouldn't be seen as crazy or extreme by anyone. 

3. It would show he's not going to play the kind of partisan games Republicans did when they denied Obama his right to fill that position. "Enough with the games, fellas. We're not doing politics like that anymore".   

4.  And if someone dies or retires in 2020, it's his pick to make, not the next guy.  He can re-establish that the president gets 4 years, not 3. 
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It would be a brilliant move.
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The only people who think it would be brilliant would be people who don't support Trump.  HIs supporters want red meat...they want a Scalia-esque replacement and they'll be irate if he did something like that.

 
avoiding injuries said:
Seriously, and since he has experience in buying planes, I'm guessing he knew this deal was an overcharge. Anyone who sells something to the government knows that they don't care about prices as much as a private company does. 
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This is hopefully a joke. Air Force One was getting military and security upgrades. Who know what Trump sacrificed because he didn't think it necessary.

This isn't extra laptop trays and rust proof coating we're talking about here.

This is like saying you've bought several cars before so you know what goes into buying a combat ready Humvee.

 
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You think he really gives a #### about what his supporters think?  He doesn't.  He already got his use from them.  He will begin his legacy building immediately.  He's already said as much.  

It is my true belief that Trump was more interested in the prestige than the job.  And now he has it.  The next most important thing will be the legacy.  He wants his stamp on history to be yuge.  This would be a hell of a start.  

 
GROOT said:
You have to give it to the media, after all the egg on their face, they still are trying.
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You realize that for us to have a free and open democracy, the news media is an essential part right?  

And DJT's continued demonization of the media is an attempt to get them to back off their criticisms of him, further degrading the free and open democracy where the powerful and rich are held to account be responsible journalism.

Instead of the ridiculous piling on of the media that the right seems to be enjoying, and has been enjoying for some time in very over-generalized and meaningless ways, why not take issues with specific stories?  Talking about the media in general as if it's some type of group-think controlled organization is ridiculous.  

We should all be rooting for the news media to be successful, to be powerful, and to speak truth to the powerful.  It's true with Obama and it's true with Trump.  Talking down the very sources that can keep corruption and abuses of power in check is to seriously weaken our democracy.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
This is hopefully a joke. Air Force One was getting military and security upgrades. Who know what Trump sacrificed because he didn't think it necessary.

This isn't extra laptop trays and rust proof coating we're talking about here.

This is like saying you've bought several cars before so you know what goes into buying a combat ready Humvee.
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Yeah, but I'm saying, that TruCoat, you don't get it and you get oxidation problems.  I'll cost ya a heckuva lot more than five hundred... see, they install that TruCoat at the factory, there's nothing we can do, but I can talk to my boss...

Well, he's never done this before, but seeing as it's special circumstances and all, he says I can knock a hundred dollars off that TruCoat.

 
St. Louis Bob said:
Ichan is a horrible person. Can we all agree on that? 
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no.  I think Ichan would be great in this spot.

8 years ago when #### was hitting the fan, Ichan had a blog going that I was reading.  He made the claim that what he did as a corporate raider was find companies that were under performing due to gross incompetence from the board of directors and re-structure.  Sometimes that meant breaking up comapnies, but if the board was really as bad as he claimed, that was inevitable anyways.  Anyways, he got pretty deep into how boards are structured - how it becomes a giant boys-club, where they all appoint each other to sit on boards and give themselves giant raises.  It's pretty disgusting how it all works at the high levels.  

Ichan is a guy who understands the rot at the top levels of our corporations.  He has profited from the rot bigly.  If anyone knows how to fix that, it's him.

looks like he has re-launched his blog - I haven't read anything here, but will be doing so shortly.

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
Yeah, but I'm saying, that TruCoat, you don't get it and you get oxidation problems.  I'll cost ya a heckuva lot more than five hundred... see, they install that TruCoat at the factory, there's nothing we can do, but I can talk to my boss...

Well, he's never done this before, but seeing as it's special circumstances and all, he says I can knock a hundred dollars off that TruCoat.
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That is truly it.

 
adonis said:
The only people who think it would be brilliant would be people who don't support Trump.  HIs supporters want red meat...they want a Scalia-esque replacement and they'll be irate if he did something like that.
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It's impossible for his supporters to be mad at Trump.  He can talk them into anything.  He could go far right, far left, or anywhere in between and they would be fine with it.  Hell, his own words admitting sexual assault didn't bother them.  He can do no wrong in their eyes. 

And rank and file Republicans will always vote Republican in the end.  They may bristle for a little while, but they'd get over it.  He can appease them with his next appointment. 

 
Jeremy said:
adonis said:
The only people who think it would be brilliant would be people who don't support Trump.  HIs supporters want red meat...they want a Scalia-esque replacement and they'll be irate if he did something like that.
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It's impossible for his supporters to be mad at Trump.  He can talk them into anything.  He could go far right, far left, or anywhere in between and they would be fine with it.  Hell, his own words admitting sexual assault didn't bother them.  He can do no wrong in their eyes. 

And rank and file Republicans will always vote Republican in the end.  They may bristle for a little while, but they'd get over it.  He can appease them with his next appointment. 
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If you want to find one thing that Trump voters would be irate at Trump over it would be appointing a moderate SC justice to replace Scalia.

 
adonis said:
If you want to find one thing that Trump voters would be irate at Trump over it would be appointing a moderate SC justice to replace Scalia.
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I saw there was a discussion a few pages back debating if there was a difference between "supporters" and "voters".  I think there can be a distinction.  His supporters he has wrapped around his tiny finger.  He's got them hook, line, and sinker.  Literally cannot do anything to turn them off. 

Those who voted for him as the lesser of 2 evils will come around once Fox News labels every Democrat of any influence a child of Satan. A lot of squirrels will cross their path between now and 2020. 

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
Carl Ichan to be named a special advisor on regulatory overhaul.

Not an official job, won't be paid.

Would be viewed as a big conflict of interest problem if the President-Elect himself wasn't already so conflicted.

This is not normal.
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Drain the swamp!

 
Jeremy said:
If he really wants to mend fences (instead of just building them) the first thing he should do when he gets into office is nominate Merrick Garland for SCOTUS.  I think that would accomplish a few things:

1. It would be an acknowledgement that Obama had the right to make that pick as the legitimate president of the United States after so many years of Trump questioning his legitimacy with the birther nonsense.  He's not one for apologies, but this would be an olive branch of sorts. 

2. It would be an appointment that wouldn't be seen as crazy or extreme by anyone. 

3. It would show he's not going to play the kind of partisan games Republicans did when they denied Obama his right to fill that position. "Enough with the games, fellas. We're not doing politics like that anymore".   

4.  And if someone dies or retires in 2020, it's his pick to make, not the next guy.  He can re-establish that the president gets 4 years, not 3. 
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This is the move of a person looking to shake things up and upset with party politics.  A President-Elect looking to mend fences after a contentious campaign would do this.  

 
moleculo said:
no.  I think Ichan would be great in this spot.

8 years ago when #### was hitting the fan, Ichan had a blog going that I was reading.  He made the claim that what he did as a corporate raider was find companies that were under performing due to gross incompetence from the board of directors and re-structure.  Sometimes that meant breaking up comapnies, but if the board was really as bad as he claimed, that was inevitable anyways.  Anyways, he got pretty deep into how boards are structured - how it becomes a giant boys-club, where they all appoint each other to sit on boards and give themselves giant raises.  It's pretty disgusting how it all works at the high levels.  

Ichan is a guy who understands the rot at the top levels of our corporations.  He has profited from the rot bigly.  If anyone knows how to fix that, it's him.

looks like he has re-launched his blog - I haven't read anything here, but will be doing so shortly.
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Hmm.  I'm open to rethinking this.  Thanks for posting this and linking to Ichan's blog.  

 
Arsenal of Doom said:
I've posted several times about the parallels we're seeing with the early twentieth century. It should go without saying this is a time we need to learn from history rather than repeat it. 
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Completely agree.  it is very worrying.  And Trump's demagoguery and authoritarian styling is not reassuring

 
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