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Statorama said:
If it buoy's you any, it's far more likely that Trump picks an Anthony Kennedy type than a Scalia type.  While you're not going to get some mindless "I vote left on everything" drone like Sotomayor or that Barney Rubble looking chick, you may still get someone that actually looks at the case on it's merits and doesn't automatically agree with one side of the court or the other.
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That seems ridiculous. What evidence do you have to support that theory? 

 
jon_mx said:
It doesn't really work both ways.  Everyone knows Trump is a buffoon.   So when you spend weeks mocking the guy, it is pretty stupid to go ahead and do exactly what you were mocking him for. 
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A presidential candidate's actions and random citizen demonstrations is hardly an apples to oranges comparison. The bar should be higher for the candidate and Hillary met it. 

 
jon_mx said:
So were these "Not our President" protesters shocked when Trump declined to say he would accept the election results. 
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I think you may have misinterpreted the signs/protests.  The idea was not to question the legitimacy of the elections.  The idea is to show solidarity with other people who are outraged, support for those (eg Muslims, obviously) who are rightfully feeling frightened and alone right now, etc. It's not just about sending a message to those in power, it's an outlet for frustration and a sign of support for those who need it.

 
Jackstraw said:
That seems ridiculous. What evidence do you have to support that theory? 
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His positions on most issues (prior to his current bloviations) were more center-left.  Plus, he's way more concerned with how things "look" rather than pursuing any hard core right wing ideology.

It will be some nondescript dude like John Roberts.  Very safe, very vanilla, very center-right.

 
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Haven't read the thread but it'd be a genius stroke if the first thing he did was to nominate (or reaffirm the nomination of) Garland. Middle of the road judge respected by people on both sides. Probably a pipe dream but that'd be a heck of a first act if unification was a focus.

 
Looked like a great meeting with Obama. Called Barack a great man and planned to seek his council out in the future. Meeting went 80 minutes longer than planned and Trump said he wished it was even longer. 

 
Willie Neslon said:
Haven't read the thread but it'd be a genius stroke if the first thing he did was to nominate (or reaffirm the nomination of) Garland. Middle of the road judge respected by people on both sides. Probably a pipe dream but that'd be a heck of a first act if unification was a focus.
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No thanks. 

 
mquinnjr said:
He needs to put the kibosh on incidents like this ASAP.
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People keep acting like he's just another politician.  He doesn't have to denounce this, and he probably won't.  The guy didn't denounce an endorsement from the KKK for gosh sakes.

 
Willie Neslon said:
Haven't read the thread but it'd be a genius stroke if the first thing he did was to nominate (or reaffirm the nomination of) Garland. Middle of the road judge respected by people on both sides. Probably a pipe dream but that'd be a heck of a first act if unification was a focus.
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He's the only guy that can't get nominated now.  It'd make the R's in Congress/Senate look like total jackasses.

Plus, Garland is an anti-gun justice.  No way the boys at the NRA let this go down without reminding a few lawmakers about the major donations they might not continue to provide.

 
This Supreme Court discussion is interesting, but I have a more pressing concern. 

Tomorrow is Veteran's Day.  What's the best way to honor most of our brave vets while also being sure to exclude any who were captured? 

 
So pretty much for the foreseeable future, any and all restrictions on guns will be either struck down or severely limited.

Limited like Freddie Kruger with blood on his gloves could still purchase and walk away with a gun, but the aliens from 10 Cloverfield Lane would have to wait a week before they could legally start slinging lead.

 
Drain the swamp!


 


With Trump’s Election, a Bonanza for Washington Lobbyists


WASHINGTON — Trent Lott, the former Republican senator from Mississippi, had gleefully flown back from Florida, where he had been working for the campaign of Donald J. Trump. Now a powerful lobbyist, his phone had been buzzing nonstop and he was busy helping to organize a briefing Thursday morning for dozens of corporate clients.

He was not alone. The stunning surprise of the election, and the political chaos it created, is a boon for Washington’s lobbying corridor known as K Street.

Corporate America is both excited and anxious about the prospect of Mr. Trump’s presidency, seeing great opportunity to shape the agenda after an extended period of frustration over gridlock in Congress.

With Republicans poised to control both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, Mr. Lott said he had not seen such a chance to help clients since he left the Senate in 2007 — whether by making changes to the federal tax code for Amazon or increasing military spending on new ships for Huntington Ingalls Industries.

“Trump has pledged to change things in Washington — about draining the swamp,” said Mr. Lott, who now works at Squire Patton Boggs, a law and lobbying firm. “He is going to need some people to help guide him through the swamp — how do you get in and how you get out? We are prepared to help do that.”

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Prominent Washington lobbyists also said that Mr. Trump would arrive in the capital with a much smaller contingent of veteran policy advisers than Hillary Clinton would have brought — and they see that relative inexperience as an opening. So they are prepared to draft legislation and regulations to quietly pass to allies on Capitol Hill and in the White House.

It is an opportunity that comes after a period of decline in lobbying revenues for many major firms. Total lobbying spending in Washington, after climbing consistently for nearly two decades began to dip in 2011, as congressional action slowed with divided government.

“Trump’s management style and policy approach to the campaign implies he is going to set big broad ‘beautiful’ direction and the elected lawmakers will take significant cuts at trying to flesh it out and reflect his will,” said Bruce P. Mehlman, the founder of Mehlman Castagnetti Rosen & Thomas, which has more than 70 clients ranging from Adobe, the software company, to Walmart.
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Usually I feel bad for people taken in by cons, but not this time.  #### that.  You had half the country telling you that you were being conned, and the con artist was also a blatant misogynist and bigot, and you fell for it anyway.  I'm gonna laugh at each and every one of these stories. 

And make no mistake, there will be a TON of them.  Wait 'till we get that Goldman/JP Morgan Treasury Secretary.  That one's gonna be funnier than a Mel Brooks movie.

 
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James Daulton said:
So pretty much for the foreseeable future, any and all restrictions on guns will be either struck down or severely limited.
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All you need is a crippling world-wide financial crisis and an unbreakable supermajority in both houses with a Democratic President and they can push anti-gun laws through reconciliation.

 
Oh hey, what do you know?


CNBC is reporting that Trump’s advisers have “floated the possibility of naming JPMorgan Chase chief Jamie Dimon as Treasury Secretary.” Dimon, a Democrat, is perhaps the most high-profile and well-respected CEO of any major Wall Street firm, but has been vocal in his criticisms of Democratic efforts to regulate Wall Street in the years following the financial crisis.

That Trump is reportedly considering nominating Dimon to the arguably most important economic policy role in the executive branch underscores the irony of the head of the Republican Party flying an anti-Wall Street flag so aggressively.
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TobiasFunke said:
I'm more curious to hear from all the Bernie folks who sat out or voted third party or even voted for Trump because Clinton was "in bed with Wall Street." Trump's administration, with a GOP Congress at his side, is going to be significantly more Wall Street-friendly than a Clinton administration possibly could have been. His inexperience and stupidity will give them a blank slate to totally rewrite of the laws and the SEC and CFTC regs to fit whatever they like, and probably the enforcement budgets and priorities too. We're seeing the evidence of it already, clear as day.

This will be the Sanders/anti Wall Street equivalent of the Stein/Green Party people watching Trump roll back the Clean Power Plan on Day 1.  Both of these things are absolutely coming, and they're coming in part because the people who opposed them the most couldn't wrap their heads around the notion of compromise.

Not that this will make me happy, of course. I oppose those things too, and it will upset me when (not if) they happen.  I hope all of us on the left can learn a lesson. If you let the perfect be the enemy of the good, you end up with total ####ing disaster.
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Bernie supporter who voted for HRC against Trump. His administration is going to be great for rich folk, finance industry, etc. If the rest get a sniff it'll be accidental. Adjust your portfolios accordingly, but be ready to bail before the next crash hits - don't get too greedy.

 
Posted a long screed about how Bernie/third party folks not supporting Clinton might react to these developments, comparing it to green party/stein folks reacting when Trump yanks the Clean Power Plan.  But I deleted it, because I didn't like the tone.  We're all in the same boat now. I'll indulge myself in a chuckle or two at the Trump supporters who thought they were getting reform, because they deserve it and besides I need to laugh to keep from crying.

But the rest of us are in the same boat now, and we gotta row in the same direction, minor differences aside..  I'll try to resist posts like that in the future.

 
timschochet said:
Cutting the corporate tax rate might not be a bad idea. 
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Yeah, lets' see if we can work more loopholes in too. Maybe subsidize a few more industries. And deregulate the heck out of everything! You know, for the people. You, pumping up a Democratic candidate might have been the least recognized load of crap this whole election. Go back to your conservative elitist ayn randian knitting circle and never come out again (strictly politically speaking).

 
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Gr00vus said:
Bernie supporter who voted for HRC against Trump. His administration is going to be great for rich folk, finance industry, etc. If the rest get a sniff it'll be accidental. Adjust your portfolios accordingly, but be ready to bail before the next crash hits - don't get too greedy.
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I deleted the post to which this one responds, didn't like my tone/approach. 

As for me, I was in the middle of a refi on Monday, already got a rate bump just now. President Trump has already cost me two grand at settlement and an extra $100 a month going forward.

 
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CurlyNight said:
Any truth to this? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/10/1595617/-The-architect-of-the-most-racist-law-in-modern-American-history-has-been-named-to-Trump-s-team
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Interesting story- I know this guy.  He was my grad advisor on my senior thesis in college.  His politics are awful, but he is thoughtful and a decent human being, just far right in terms of how he interprets the Constitution and the laws. Never struck me as a hateful, dangerous bigot.  Like, for example, future WH Chief of Staff/anti-Semite Steve Bannon.

 
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TobiasFunke said:
I deleted the post to which this one responds, didn't like my tone/approach. 

As for me, I was in the middle of a refi on Monday, already got a rate bump just now. President Trump has already cost me two grand at settlement and an extra $100 a month going forward.
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I think rates were going up soon regardless of who won.

 
Gr00vus said:
Yeah, lets' see if we can work more loopholes in too. Maybe subsidize a few more industries. And deregulate the heck out of everything! You know, for the people. You, pumping up a Democratic candidate might have been the least recognized load of crap this whole election. Go back to your conservative elitist ayn randian knitting circle and never come out again (strictly politically speaking).
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Groovus, I gave up on Ayn a long time ago. I don't want to deregulate everything. 

But lowering the tax rate will stimulate economic growth IMO. It's one of the very few aspects of Trump's platform that I agree with. 

And I was for Hillary because she was a moderate centrist, socially liberal, who wasn't anti-trade. I never tried to hide that. 

 
Ilov80s said:
Works both ways. Trump said the thing was rigged and he might not accept the result. Clinton supporters protesting the result. It's all poor form in my opinion, but neither side should really comment since hypocrisy is flowing thick in all directions. 
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How about those of us who don't align with either party and didn't vote for either of them?

 
Willie Neslon said:
Haven't read the thread but it'd be a genius stroke if the first thing he did was to nominate (or reaffirm the nomination of) Garland. Middle of the road judge respected by people on both sides. Probably a pipe dream but that'd be a heck of a first act if unification was a focus.
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I had this thought too.  You can call Trump a lot of things but he seems shrewd.  I could easily see him saying "what do I have to do to get elected?"  And then once elected "what do I have to do to be popular and well-liked?"  Maybe I'm just dreaming but I could see that.  

 
TobiasFunke said:
Drain the swamp!


 


Usually I feel bad for people taken in by cons, but not this time.  #### that.  You had half the country telling you that you were being conned, and the con artist was also a blatant misogynist and bigot, and you fell for it anyway.  I'm gonna laugh at each and every one of these stories. 

And make no mistake, there will be a TON of them.  Wait 'till we get that Goldman/JP Morgan Treasury Secretary.  That one's gonna be funnier than a Mel Brooks movie.
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Just another reason we needed Bernie and not Hillary.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Posted a long screed about how Bernie/third party folks not supporting Clinton might react to these developments, comparing it to green party/stein folks reacting when Trump yanks the Clean Power Plan.  But I deleted it, because I didn't like the tone.  We're all in the same boat now. I'll indulge myself in a chuckle or two at the Trump supporters who thought they were getting reform, because they deserve it and besides I need to laugh to keep from crying.

But the rest of us are in the same boat now, and we gotta row in the same direction, minor differences aside..  I'll try to resist posts like that in the future.
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I mostly agree with you but why would a Bernie supporter feel better about Hillary around this topic?  She's was just as bad.  

 
AAABatteries said:
I mostly agree with you but why would a Bernie supporter feel better about Hillary around this topic?  She's was just as bad.  
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1.  No she wasn't.  There is no reason to think Clinton would have rolled back financial sector regulations

2.  Even if you disagree, the argument has always been "Trump is a disaster, but Clinton is in bed with Wall Street." Turns out Trump is gonna be a disaster and is also in bed with Wall Street.

 
Wow, the libs were right on election night after Trump won, and they feared for their 401ks. The markets are just crashing--it is 1929 all over again.  Just scary....

 
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TobiasFunke said:
1.  No she wasn't.  There is no reason to think Clinton would have rolled back financial sector regulations

2.  Even if you disagree, the argument has always been "Trump is a disaster, but Clinton is in bed with Wall Street." Turns out Trump is gonna be a disaster and is also in bed with Wall Street.
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I'm not sure we know yet what Trump will do other than help Trump.

That argument is from other people not me - if in some magical world there was only those two candidates and we were forced to pick one I would have voted Hillary.  Trump is a complete clown and shouldn't be anywhere near the WH.  And that's even if he didn't say racist/misogynistic stuff.  

 
TobiasFunke said:
Curious if Trump supporters feel he has an obligation to speak on this (violence and hate speech in his name) now that he's the president-elect.
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As a minority who went to elementary school for a few years in an all white community in Florida (my brother and I were the only minorities in our entire school), this stuff hits pretty close to home.

I have no idea how much it is made up (probably a lot), but when I think back to my experiences during that brief period of my life, most seem entirely believable.  I hope Trump makes an effort to soften the stance he took during his campaign.

 
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TobiasFunke said:
The president-elect could do wonders for the nation by getting on front of the press and forcefully condemning stuff like this:

Women in Hijabs on two campuses say they were attacked by men invoking Donald Trump

He's got a very easy chance to help heal the very angry and fearful country he now will lead. 
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They made up the story on the ULL campus

http://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/news/crime_police/article_2e351106-a74b-11e6-86d9-cf799c2824a8.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

 
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