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[GoFishTN]

Tommy Rogers of The Fantastics has passed away at the age of 54.

Being a WCCW homer growing up, there wasn't a better tag team IMO than The Fantastics. Looking back, they took the Rock And Roll Express formula and made it work just as well. Bobby Fulton would play "the Ricky Morton" and get the beat down, and Rogers would always make the hot tag and clean house. Their double dropkick was just as good as Morton and Gibson.

Loved watching those guys work together.

I love the Fantastics/ME match at Clash I. The crowd is molten and the work is second to none.

 

[Ghost Rider]

People have said it was cool that Cena put Owens over, but Cena doesn't put anyone over ever, he always gets his heat back. Everybody always looks worse after feuding with Cena.

Did Cena get back over Daniel Bryan after Cena let Bryan pin him cleanly at Summer Slam 2013?Did Cena get back over Brock Lesnar after Cena let Lesnar annihilate him at Summer Slam 2014?

Did Daniel Bryan and Brock Lesnar look better or worse after those matches?

For the record, Cena/Bryan was not a feud. It was a one-time match.

For the most part, travdogg is correct. I am not a fan of Wyatt's, but he has never regained the surge he had prior to feuding with Cena, and Rusev went from looking like a million bucks three months ago to a chump.

 

[RBM]

People have said it was cool that Cena put Owens over, but Cena doesn't put anyone over ever, he always gets his heat back. Everybody always looks worse after feuding with Cena.

Did Cena get back over Daniel Bryan after Cena let Bryan pin him cleanly at Summer Slam 2013?Did Cena get back over Brock Lesnar after Cena let Lesnar annihilate him at Summer Slam 2014?

Did Daniel Bryan and Brock Lesnar look better or worse after those matches?

For the record, Cena/Bryan was not a feud. It was a one-time match.

For the most part, travdogg is correct. I am not a fan of Wyatt's, but he has never regained the surge he had prior to feuding with Cena, and Rusev went from looking like a million bucks three months ago to a chump.

Yeah Cena sucks and burys young, talented heels. That promo last night sucked. Same pandering garbage he does every week. Owens kicked his ### the night before. Out-classed him in every way and he had to come out and bury him the next night? He couldn't sell the beating for one show? Can they be so foolish to have him win like 2 straight over Owens now? Because Rusev beat Cena their first match and look at the guy now. He's finished.

And if I recall Cena had Brock beat at NOC when Rollins interfered.

 

[travdogg]

Cena crushed it last night. Big assist to the kid beating cancer in the crowd, but I loved everything about that segment. Cena/Owens has done more in 3 weeks than Cena/Rusev did in three months. And I enjoyed that feud.

With this feud and the US Open Challenge, I'm more interested in what Cena is doing 10x over than whatever Rollins and the Authority are doing at the end of the night.

I wonder if Kevin Owens was thinking to himself, "holy crap - now THAT'S how you cut a promo" when Cena was rolling last night. Cena has his faults, but he knows how to work a mic. That was about as good as it gets. Wrestlers have to occasionally be in awe of each other.

Whoa. Color me surprised, I thought Cena's promo was one of the worst promos I've ever heard, and that Owens had greatly outclassed him. I thought Cena came across as a gigantic crybaby, just as he often did in the Rusev feud. Cena gets beat clean, then basically says that doesn't matter because Cena is a real man and Owens isn't is an argument a 4 year old would make.

I apologize for going on a rant here, but Cena's promo was really a great example of why people hate Cena. He lost cleanly, but instead of letting a guy go over, he has to cry about it, leading to a rematch which Cena will no doubt win, and take all of Owens heat in the process. Tying the never give up thing to Owens career was nice, everything else was awful. Throwing shade on Adam Rose, someone who actually is fighting for his sick kid, was annoying and pointless, and not very respectful. Owens called Cena an empty shell of a person filled up with corporate slogans and hollow moralizing nonsense. So Cena comes out and gives a bunch of slogans and hollow moralizations. He pointed out some kid with cancer not once, but twice. For what purpose? To what end? What does that have to do with Owens? It was a rambling bunch of nonsense after that. Just loud shouty noises absent substance.

Is it any wonder why so many younger, greener guys like poor Roman Reigns can’t cut a promo when THAT is what the face of the company comes up with? He spent five minutes spouting nonsense and then accused the OTHER guy of not thinking before he speaks. Unbelievable.

People have said it was cool that Cena put Owens over, but Cena doesn't put anyone over ever, he always gets his heat back. Everybody always looks worse after feuding with Cena. Rusev looks like just a guy right now, Wyatt still hasn't recovered, and even Punk got hindered by it. Even against Brock there had to be a BS finish in their rematch.

I guess it all depends on where you're starting from. I'm assuming you weren't a Cena fan before that promo, and I am, so I saw it a little differently.

Cena (the character) is a 15 time World Champion who worked his butt off for the last 15 years and Owens (in character), came out and disrespected him. He tried to reduce Cena's amazing legacy to souvenirs and catch phrases. Cena preaches hustle, loyalty, respect and to never give up, from which countless kids have taken inspiration, including Owens' kid apparently. Cena is rightly proud of that and is justifiably furious to hear Owens claim that he's just words and T-shirts. Owens was the whiner in that promo, complaining that he can't be his own kid's role model. That he needs to look to John Cena for that.

Great piece of business from both guys.

Cena (the man) is the top talent in the company. He's the draw. He sells the most merch. He's this era's Hulk Hogan as Owens himself pointed out in Jericho's podcast last week. He's not supposed to lose very often. Hogan, Austin, Rock (when he was babyface)...they very seldom lost and when they did they usually won the rematch. Heck even Ric Flair was that way working as a heel in NWA/WCW for many years. In promos they often talk about the "face of the company". Regardless of what they say on TV, everyone in the back knows that person is Cena. He's a lot less selfish than a lot of guys have been in his situation. His whole US Title run is about putting the spotlight on up and coming talent. Even though Cena prevails, they get a rub, assuming they perform well. He lets them kick out of his finisher and nearly beat him. He let Owens beat him clean as a sheet on his very first match in "the show". You think Shawn Michaels does that? Not a chance. There isn't a man in the lockerroom that doesn't respect the hell out of him, from everything I've heard and read.

I reserve the right to change my opinions at any time when I feel something warrants it, kind of like how I think the New Day is the most interesting thing on the show for about the last month or so, after being very meh before that. That said, at the moment, you are correct that right now, I'm certainly not a Cena fan at all.

I'm not debating Cena(the man) at all, I know he is arguably as valuable as anyone in WWE history and is the well established face of the company. My problems are with the booking and Cena(the character) both of which are awful. Cena has this whole hustle, loyalty and respect thing, but his actions are almost the exact opposite. Don't get me wrong, other guys are disrespectful, but they aren't shoved down our throats as this honorable, holier-than-thou hero like Cena is. It makes Cena come off as a gigantic hypocrite and crybaby all the time.

I mean, what part of being respectful is photoshopping dresses onto the Wyatt family and making fat jokes? Or jumping Rusev after a match and then knocking him out, only to revive him, so he can hurt him more? How about him having the the US open challenge because he wants somebody to step up and beat him, and then when someone does, he throws a hissy fit and says he isn't a real man. Those are just examples in the past year. Now if Rollins were doing those things it would be ok, because he is supposed to be a hypocrite and a jerk.

Also, while Hogan and Michaels likely wouldn't have ever lost to a guy in his debut, when they lost it mattered. Cena lost to Punk, then got seemingly infinite rematches for no reason, while the announce team called Punk a coward for not wanting to grant Cena a dozen rematches. Brock was the same thing, so was Rusev, and now it looks like Owens will be the same. If Cena gets his win back, then who cares that he lost in the first place. I mean, Hogan didn't get a rematch against Warrior, Michaels didn't get a rematch against Austin.

ETA: If all of this leads to Cena actually changing a little because he is worried he isn't the guy he once was, and that is why he is acting this way and hanging out in the midcard, where it is supposed to be easier, rather than challenging guys like Reigns and eventually Lesnar for a shot at the World Title, that would be amazing storytelling.

 

[travdogg]

On a non-Cena note about Raw:

I enjoyed Rollins throwing a fit, including getting in HHH's face a bit even. Could they be planting seeds that he is no longer the golden boy?

Rusev's promo was the best of the night, guy sells the emotion of a broken man amazingly.

When Rollins destroyed the Shield, why did they break up Reigns and Ambrose? I firmly believe that if they had kept them together from then until now, that there wouldn't have been anywhere near the backlash about Reigns' main event push. Reigns comes off as 100 times more likable as buddies with Ambrose, and Ambrose comes off as a lot more threatening with Reigns at his side.

 

[Abraham]

Kevin Owens is my new favorite wrestler. He is awesome.

 

[RBM]

When Rollins destroyed the Shield, why did they break up Reigns and Ambrose? I firmly believe that if they had kept them together from then until now, that there wouldn't have been anywhere near the backlash about Reigns' main event push. Reigns comes off as 100 times more likable as buddies with Ambrose, and Ambrose comes off as a lot more threatening with Reigns at his side.

I think they were so confident in Reigns being loved and being awesome they just separated him from The Shield split and hanging with the inferior Ambrose. Unfortunately, they were dead wrong and Ambrose was the guy that the crowd took to. When Ambrose got his head smashed into cement Reigns wasn't even there to help.

Now the optimist in me is hoping this new bromance is the setup of having Reigns turn on Ambrose and becoming a heel which is what he should be. But it could be just the latest desperate attempt to get Reigns over on the back of someone the crowd loves. First Rock at the Rumble, then D Bryan put him over, then he took Brock's best and smiled, but none of it worked. So they dig up Ambrose from the midcard, push him back to the main event where he belongs, and have Roman save him and pal around with him hoping some of Dean's popularity rubs off on to Roman. Vince really thinks his audience is ####### stupid.

 

[Eminence]

I still think it's going to be Seth Rollins vs Brock Lesnar at Summerslam. Reigns wins MITB of course and cashes in and wins the belt at Summerslam.

From there you build to a Lesnar match at Wrestlemania. Texas Deathmatch against Stone Cold Steve Austin in front of a record 100,000 people.

 

[Bogart]

I still think it's going to be Seth Rollins vs Brock Lesnar at Summerslam. Reigns wins MITB of course and cashes in and wins the belt at Summerslam.

From there you build to a Lesnar match at Wrestlemania. Texas Deathmatch against Stone Cold Steve Austin in front of a record 100,000 people.

Austin is never wrestling again. He can't perform a single stunner much less work a match.

 

[Jeremy]

Quick prediction.

Reigns wins the briefcase. Ambrose wins the title. Reigns cashes in that night, pissing off basically everyone. Reigns is your new heel champion.

Rollins snaps on The Authority to start his feud with Triple H. Probably will have to go thru Kane first.

Not a bad plan, but I sense they want to keep the belt on Rollins for a while. At least until Lesnar returns to tear him apart.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Random pics just because...

A forgotten stable: The Groomsmen

We Have Contact!

When The Kliq first clicked

Before there was Brie

 

[Jeremy]

I still think it's going to be Seth Rollins vs Brock Lesnar at Summerslam. Reigns wins MITB of course and cashes in and wins the belt at Summerslam.

From there you build to a Lesnar match at Wrestlemania. Texas Deathmatch against Stone Cold Steve Austin in front of a record 100,000 people.

Austin is never wrestling again. He can't perform a single stunner much less work a match.

I don't know. It sounds like they're thinking about it:

@WWEalerts 11h11 hours ago

The Steve Austin vs. Brock Lesnar match discussed last night on Steve's podcast is actually being discussed. WWE wanted the topic brought up

@WWEalerts 11h11 hours ago

Reportedly, WWE wanted Heyman and Austin to discuss a WM32 match between Austin and Lesnar to gauge fan interest on the Internet.

 

[Jeremy]

When Rollins destroyed the Shield, why did they break up Reigns and Ambrose? I firmly believe that if they had kept them together from then until now, that there wouldn't have been anywhere near the backlash about Reigns' main event push. Reigns comes off as 100 times more likable as buddies with Ambrose, and Ambrose comes off as a lot more threatening with Reigns at his side.

I think they were so confident in Reigns being loved and being awesome they just separated him from The Shield split and hanging with the inferior Ambrose. Unfortunately, they were dead wrong and Ambrose was the guy that the crowd took to. When Ambrose got his head smashed into cement Reigns wasn't even there to help.

Now the optimist in me is hoping this new bromance is the setup of having Reigns turn on Ambrose and becoming a heel which is what he should be. But it could be just the latest desperate attempt to get Reigns over on the back of someone the crowd loves. First Rock at the Rumble, then D Bryan put him over, then he took Brock's best and smiled, but none of it worked. So they dig up Ambrose from the midcard, push him back to the main event where he belongs, and have Roman save him and pal around with him hoping some of Dean's popularity rubs off on to Roman. Vince really thinks his audience is ####### stupid.

I don't know. It sounds like Reigns is starting to get some traction with fans after several strong PPV showings and more personality on his promos. He certainly got one of the better pops at the show in Green Bay a few weeks back. I like he's smiling more.

I don't know if 3 matches in one night helped his cause, though. I think that might play a little too much into the narrative that the WWE is "shoving him down our throats".

 

[MattFancy]

Huge Austin fan, but can he physically have a match? I know his neck/back have been huge problems in the past. I would love to see him in a match, but don't want to see him get permentally injured just for one more night.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Imo seeing Austin again would be like seeing bret vs Vince at mania. The past is best left in the past. I'm sure wwe would throw Austin several million for the appearance but it's been what (WHAT?) 13 years since his last match.

 

[Bogart]

I know that Austin has talked about getting his cardio up, getting into shape, but at almost 50 years old, and being told by doctors that one bad bump or botched spot he could be paralyzed or killed, I think I would just keep doing podcasts and cashing checks.

It would be one thing if it was Austin vs. Vince or even Austin vs. HHH. You could get in there and maybe work some kind of old school brawl and blade. But with Lesnar, it would have to be physical. Austin would have to take some suplexes. There is no way that is happening.

Austin is smart enough to keep his health and legacy intact. Gossip about it all you want, but it's not going to happen.

Brock vs. Rock...... now that's where my money is at.

 

[Jeremy]

Imo seeing Austin again would be like seeing bret vs Vince at mania. The past is best left in the past. I'm sure wwe would throw Austin several million for the appearance but it's been what (WHAT?) 13 years since his last match.

Yeah, I'm not really a fan of aging stars from an earlier era coming back to have matches against guys in their prime. Unless the old timer gets squashed it kind of sends the message that things are softer now than they used to be. If a 50 year old man who hasn't stepped into the ring in 13 years can push your top star to the limit, what does that say about the current superstars? They must be weaker, right?

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Good for AJ. He needs to stay far far away from that sinking ship.

IWGP Heavyweight Champion AJ Styles recently turned down an offer to return to TNA Wrestling, according to a report at PWInsider.com.

TNA reached out to Styles a month or two ago about the possibility of him returning for one last match at Slammiversary later this year, as well as a TNA Hall of Fame Induction ceremony. It was said to be a strong offer, but he was not interested.

NJPW and ROH are currently AJ Styles top priorities. He's scheduled to team up with Samoa Joe against Daniels and Kazarian at the upcoming ROH TV tapings on June 20th from New York City.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Tommy Rogers of The Fantastics has passed away at the age of 54.

Being a WCCW homer growing up, there wasn't a better tag team IMO than The Fantastics. Looking back, they took the Rock And Roll Express formula and made it work just as well. Bobby Fulton would play "the Ricky Morton" and get the beat down, and Rogers would always make the hot tag and clean house. Their double dropkick was just as good as Morton and Gibson.

Loved watching those guys work together.

I agree. Loved their stuff. I didn't get exposed until their 88-89 or so Crockett run but thought they were very good and underrated.

He was on Austin's podcast last year. If you like him I urge you to go back and find it. Nothing earth shattering, just a down to earth good dude. All the more shocking to hear he had a clash with the police and was facing jail time and thus probably killed himself. I know he alludes to being a roid guy on that austin podcast and when I had seen him a few years ago he was in phenomenal shape for a guy in his late 40s

 

[travdogg]

I know that Austin has talked about getting his cardio up, getting into shape, but at almost 50 years old, and being told by doctors that one bad bump or botched spot he could be paralyzed or killed, I think I would just keep doing podcasts and cashing checks.

It would be one thing if it was Austin vs. Vince or even Austin vs. HHH. You could get in there and maybe work some kind of old school brawl and blade. But with Lesnar, it would have to be physical. Austin would have to take some suplexes. There is no way that is happening.

Austin is smart enough to keep his health and legacy intact. Gossip about it all you want, but it's not going to happen.

Brock vs. Rock...... now that's where my money is at.

Agreed that Austin/Lesnar would be terrible and honestly, a little scary for Austin's sake.

The money is with Brock/Rock for sure. Though I wouldn't be that interested in that match at all. Granted ring rust and all, but Rock has looked awful in the 3 matches he's had, and that was against Cena and Punk, guys that it is easy to have great matches against.

They've had a bunch of chances to build someone up as Lesnar's equal, and for whatever reason they haven't done it at all, they still can, but at this point Lesnar losing to anyone seems silly. Look at the candidates:

Rollins-would have worked after Mania, but 3 months of looking like a loser who can't beat anyone on his own hasn't helped.

Reigns-Hard to see them being better than Mania was, and that was pretty much a survival match.

Ambrose-Might be the best candidate at the moment, which feels weird to say.

Cena-Be a shame to waste Lesnar on another match with him...or with HHH if they stick with Lesnar as a face.

Owens-If he gets built as being clearly superior to Cena like he has so far it could work, unlikely though

Rusev-Would have been a great candidate if he'd won the Cena feud.

Neville-Out of left field, but nobody has ever kicked out of the Red Arrow, and his speed could give Lesnar trouble, in theory. Would need a lot of build.

Wyatt-If he weren't basically a jobber to the stars, it'd be worth it just for the build between Wyatt and Heyman.

Cesaro-Another left field candidate, but physically he matches up best with Lesnar, just needs some dominant wins.

Zayn-Highly unlikely, but I could see something akin to Brock-Eddie with Zayn.

 

[Tom Servo]

I reserve the right to change my opinions at any time when I feel something warrants it, kind of like how I think the New Day is the most interesting thing on the show for about the last month or so, after being very meh before that. That said, at the moment, you are correct that right now, I'm certainly not a Cena fan at all.


I'm not debating Cena(the man) at all, I know he is arguably as valuable as anyone in WWE history and is the well established face of the company. My problems are with the booking and Cena(the character) both of which are awful. Cena has this whole hustle, loyalty and respect thing, but his actions are almost the exact opposite. Don't get me wrong, other guys are disrespectful, but they aren't shoved down our throats as this honorable, holier-than-thou hero like Cena is. It makes Cena come off as a gigantic hypocrite and crybaby all the time.

I mean, what part of being respectful is photoshopping dresses onto the Wyatt family and making fat jokes? Or jumping Rusev after a match and then knocking him out, only to revive him, so he can hurt him more? How about him having the the US open challenge because he wants somebody to step up and beat him, and then when someone does, he throws a hissy fit and says he isn't a real man. Those are just examples in the past year. Now if Rollins were doing those things it would be ok, because he is supposed to be a hypocrite and a jerk.

Also, while Hogan and Michaels likely wouldn't have ever lost to a guy in his debut, when they lost it mattered. Cena lost to Punk, then got seemingly infinite rematches for no reason, while the announce team called Punk a coward for not wanting to grant Cena a dozen rematches. Brock was the same thing, so was Rusev, and now it looks like Owens will be the same. If Cena gets his win back, then who cares that he lost in the first place. I mean, Hogan didn't get a rematch against Warrior, Michaels didn't get a rematch against Austin.

ETA: If all of this leads to Cena actually changing a little because he is worried he isn't the guy he once was, and that is why he is acting this way and hanging out in the midcard, where it is supposed to be easier, rather than challenging guys like Reigns and eventually Lesnar for a shot at the World Title, that would be amazing storytelling.

to all of this.

 

[mr fancypants]

All I can say is Wednesday's are the new Mondays. I just watched Lucha Underground with Sexy Star (a woman) vs. Pentagon (a man) in a submission match. Sexy took a couple of super kicks from Pentagon that left me speechless. I'm still hyped as I haven't yet had the chance to see this weeks NXT or ROH yet. The best things about these shows is that you have finishes to the matches, not the endless interference or DQ's like the WWE. I'll leave Monday nights for Vince's sheep, who can't wait for Ryback vs Big Slow or another endless Kane or J&J security interference. Viva la difference!!!

 

[Tom Servo]

I was live tweeting Lucha Underground last night during the Trios championship match. Vampiro was talking about Ivelisse yelling because her teammates wouldn't tag her in - with her still sporting the cast on her ankle - and got a response from Vampiro:

Tribe Time Brian ‏@BrianIndian63 10h10 hours ago

.@vampiro_vampiro forgets that men will tolerate @RealIvelisse voice if there's sex involved. #LuchaUnderground @LuchaElRey
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vampiro ‏@vampiro_vampiro 10h10 hours ago
@BrianIndian63 @RealIvelisse @LuchaElRey dude , if I got her she could ##### all day I would not care am all

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Apparently Kidd was injured during Joe's first WWE match before Raw this past Monday.



As announced on this week's edition of NXT TV, WWE will be holding a live WWE Network special from Sumo Hall in Tokyo, Japan on July 4th. Below is the full lineup for the show.

- Brock Lesnar vs. Kofi Kingston

- John Cena & Dolph Ziggler vs. Kane & King Barrett

- Kevin Owens vs. Finn Balor (NXT Title)

- Chris Jericho vs. Neville

- The New Day vs. Tyson Kidd & Cesaro*

- Nikki Bella vs. Paige vs. Naomi (WWE Divas Title)

- The Lucha Dragons vs. Los Matadores

* - Tyson Kidd may be pulled from this match due to injury.

 

[GoFishTN]

Brock's flying to Japan to spend Independence Day facing Kofi Kingston? OK.

 

[Bogart]

Brock's flying to Japan to spend Independence Day facing Kofi Kingston? OK.

I'm sure the paycheck still cashes the same way.

It's is an interesting match-up, I guess they don't want to give away a Brock match with someone that is PPV caliber?

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Brock's flying to Japan to spend Independence Day facing Kofi Kingston? OK.

Will be fun watching him squash New Day.

http://whatculture.com/wwe/why-brock-lesnar-is-working-japans-wwe-live-event-july-4.php

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

Tyson Kidd neck/spine injury (during a dark match with Samoa Joe) is a real bummer. Have to wonder if they were thinking of letting Kidd and Cesaro work singles anyway, since the WWE has pushed Prime Time Players and Lucha Dragons to the top of the face tag team ranks...Cesaro would really boost the IC division.

 

[RBM]

That's a shame. Big Kidd fan, love the tag team. They should've got a longer run at the top.

Although this does force their hand with Cesaro getting another chance in singles action. Now that's a guy I'd love to see toe to toe with Brock.

 

[stahbux]

Brock's flying to Japan to spend Independence Day facing Kofi Kingston? OK.

Will be fun watching him squash New Day.

http://whatculture.com/wwe/why-brock-lesnar-is-working-japans-wwe-live-event-july-4.php

Brock is doing the Japan show because Itami is injured and WWE needs the draw. That other fluff is a convenient excuse so WWE can save face.

 

[Bogart]

Tommy Rogers of The Fantastics has passed away at the age of 54.

Being a WCCW homer growing up, there wasn't a better tag team IMO than The Fantastics. Looking back, they took the Rock And Roll Express formula and made it work just as well. Bobby Fulton would play "the Ricky Morton" and get the beat down, and Rogers would always make the hot tag and clean house. Their double dropkick was just as good as Morton and Gibson.

Loved watching those guys work together.

Rogers family doesn't have the money to get his body back to Florida from Hawaii.

Sucks that most of these guys didn't save any money, make enough money, or settle into the real world enough. Rogers was completely broke and facing prison time.

 

[bcdjr1]

Is it just me or is the WWE Heavyeight Championhip belt missing a few diamonds? Lower "w", the right-inner leg is missing like three stones.

 

[SlaX]

That's a shame. Big Kidd fan, love the tag team. They should've got a longer run at the top.

Although this does force their hand with Cesaro getting another chance in singles action. Now that's a guy I'd love to see toe to toe with Brock.

Speaking of things that are related to Cesaro and Brock, whatever happened when Cesaro was a Heyman guy? Did that just get dropped and never talked about again?

 

[RBM]

That's a shame. Big Kidd fan, love the tag team. They should've got a longer run at the top.

Although this does force their hand with Cesaro getting another chance in singles action. Now that's a guy I'd love to see toe to toe with Brock.

Speaking of things that are related to Cesaro and Brock, whatever happened when Cesaro was a Heyman guy? Did that just get dropped and never talked about again?

They actually addressed it in a very awkward backstage segment. Parted ways mutually. What a disaster that was.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

So Destination America ratings are in and a week ago aired premiere ROH show (announce only 1 week prior) only did 100k less viewers than Impact.

Looks like DA making the right decision dumping Impact come September and giving the much less costly ROH a shot.

Bye Dixie. Bye TNA

 

[Tom Servo]

So Destination America ratings are in and a week ago aired premiere ROH show (announce only 1 week prior) only did 100k less viewers than Impact.

Looks like DA making the right decision dumping Impact come September and giving the much less costly ROH a shot.

Bye Dixie. Bye TNA

Bye Felicia.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Hope we get anyone podcast from Dixie (haha) saying everything with TNA is just wonderful. (She was on Austin's podcast only a few weeks ago)

The woman is delusional. I have zero doubt bringing aboard Billy Corgan was nothing more than to try to get interest for a new home. Kinda ironic the timing of which they hired him, eh?

 

[Tom Servo]

Hope we get anyone podcast from Dixie (haha) saying everything with TNA is just wonderful. (She was on Austin's podcast only a few weeks ago)

The woman is delusional. I have zero doubt bringing aboard Billy Corgan was nothing more than to try to get interest for a new home. Kinda ironic the timing of which they hired him, eh?

That promotion has been a poop show for at least the last 18 months - 2 years. I wish people would quit considering Vince Russo some sort of wrestling genius. Me, you and two of my buds from WV could write better programs than that clown.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Brock's flying to Japan to spend Independence Day facing Kofi Kingston? OK.

I'm sure the paycheck still cashes the same way.

It's is an interesting match-up, I guess they don't want to give away a Brock match with someone that is PPV caliber?

No chance that Kofi wins the Money in the bank and then heads to face Brock Lesnar on July 4th? Right?

 

[travdogg]

Brock's flying to Japan to spend Independence Day facing Kofi Kingston? OK.

I'm sure the paycheck still cashes the same way.

It's is an interesting match-up, I guess they don't want to give away a Brock match with someone that is PPV caliber?

No chance that Kofi wins the Money in the bank and then heads to face Brock Lesnar on July 4th? Right?

I'd be 100% on board with that. We don't often get a big surprise with Money in the Bank, and I like the idea of the champion having to deal with the entirety of the New Day as a threat to his title. That said, it seems really clear that Reigns is going to win it. Don't even know who I'd call the #2 option right now. Maybe Reigns wins, and cashes at the beginning of the title match, so we all get that Shield triple threat we've all wanted for over a year.

 

[Thunderlips]

Brock's flying to Japan to spend Independence Day facing Kofi Kingston? OK.

I'm sure the paycheck still cashes the same way.

It's is an interesting match-up, I guess they don't want to give away a Brock match with someone that is PPV caliber?

No chance that Kofi wins the Money in the bank and then heads to face Brock Lesnar on July 4th? Right?

Not in this WWE. They're not going to burn the potential of the Money in the Bank on Kingston......but like travdogg said....it'd be cool if they did, and took the "Freebird"Rules to the extreme in regards to it (maybe finding a loophole that lets them swith the MITB during the match or...if one of them is losing the MITB match...another member could take the briefcase back or something)....

 

[Gottabesweet]

It's awesome that Jericho comes back and does a bunch of house shows, the fans love it and he gets to work and mentor the guys like Neville etc.

I wish he was on TV more but I'll take it. Just giving back to the business and he truly gets it.

 

[ScottNorwood]

It's awesome that Jericho comes back and does a bunch of house shows, the fans love it and he gets to work and mentor the guys like Neville etc.

I wish he was on TV more but I'll take it. Just giving back to the business and he truly gets it.

I'd like to see him as a manager.

In fact, I'd like to see more managers in general.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Agree, I also don't think these hot fsctions should be broken up so quickly. The Wyatt family was great. Now they just are scratching and clawing for something for Bray to do.

 

[Brady Marino]

Hope we get anyone podcast from Dixie (haha) saying everything with TNA is just wonderful. (She was on Austin's podcast only a few weeks ago)

The woman is delusional. I have zero doubt bringing aboard Billy Corgan was nothing more than to try to get interest for a new home. Kinda ironic the timing of which they hired him, eh?

That promotion has been a poop show for at least the last 18 months - 2 years. I wish people would quit considering Vince Russo some sort of wrestling genius. Me, you and two of my buds from WV could write better programs than that clown.

Russo is no longer with them and creatively, it hasn't been bad lately. Its just become the Boy Who Cried Wolf of wrestling. No one cares that its a decent product now.

 

[Courtjester]

I know that Austin has talked about getting his cardio up, getting into shape, but at almost 50 years old, and being told by doctors that one bad bump or botched spot he could be paralyzed or killed, I think I would just keep doing podcasts and cashing checks.

It would be one thing if it was Austin vs. Vince or even Austin vs. HHH. You could get in there and maybe work some kind of old school brawl and blade. But with Lesnar, it would have to be physical. Austin would have to take some suplexes. There is no way that is happening.

Austin is smart enough to keep his health and legacy intact. Gossip about it all you want, but it's not going to happen.

Brock vs. Rock...... now that's where my money is at.

I believe Austin will be part of WM somehow maybe a manager position? Special referee? He will have a big presence in one way or another because they need the butts in the seat to sell this one out.

As much as I would love to see him headline one more time, all I can imagine is a peripheral, spot action.

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

It's awesome that Jericho comes back and does a bunch of house shows, the fans love it and he gets to work and mentor the guys like Neville etc.

I wish he was on TV more but I'll take it. Just giving back to the business and he truly gets it.

I'd like to see him as a manager.

In fact, I'd like to see more managers in general.

More managers for sure. Some guys who need one:

King Barrett - he doesn't fight dirty enough. He needs a manager to do some extra cheating for him to get more heat.

Harper/Rowan - Slick and Mr Fuji used to focus on tag teams. They need a mouth piece so they can stand around and look scary (yeah, the Wyatt Family should have stayed together).

 

[KiddLattimer]

It's awesome that Jericho comes back and does a bunch of house shows, the fans love it and he gets to work and mentor the guys like Neville etc.

I wish he was on TV more but I'll take it. Just giving back to the business and he truly gets it.

I'd like to see him as a manager.

In fact, I'd like to see more managers in general.

More managers for sure. Some guys who need one:

King Barrett - he doesn't fight dirty enough. He needs a manager to do some extra cheating for him to get more heat.

Harper/Rowan - Slick and Mr Fuji used to focus on tag teams. They need a mouth piece so they can stand around and look scary (yeah, the Wyatt Family should have stayed together).

I still dont understand why they broke them up... they were so good together and so meh separate

 

[Bogart]

How was the go home RAW?

 

[Keith R]

How was the go home RAW?

Not good. Owens-Neville was the highlight and that happened in the first 1/2 hour. Reigns-Kofi was surprisingly good, though the outcome was never really in doubt. The rest was below average.