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Bogart
Footballguy
Neville can be the X-Pac, in the Shamus/King Barrett UK DX knock-off. Just going around creating chaos all in good fun. Just one big pub brawl/football match fight, all in honor of the Motherland.
Their faction shirt could even look like a Premier League jersey.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
JB Breakfast Club
Footballguy
A cold rain just swept across Minneapolis. Clearly, the Undertaker has entered the land of the Beast.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Okay, they need to do a lot tonight to set this PPV up.
We are getting in that zone of SS, Rumble and WM. Time to solidify your storylines and get things in order.
We are getting in that zone of SS, Rumble and WM. Time to solidify your storylines and get things in order.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
If they're smart, they'll have Ambrose turn on Reigns at Summer Slam and then spend the road into the Royal Rumble and WM with a feud between The Wyatt Family and Reigns Family. First have the healthy Uso try to help him....then bolster the Wyatts with a return of Rowan ( or adding Bo Dallas).....then have Samoa Joe come in on Reigns side and then finally even the sides out with The Rock.
Bogart
Footballguy
I like your thinking.
Ambrose couldn't have telegraphed a turn on Roman anymore tonight this side of actually saying it was coming. Too much talk of family, being by his side, etc.
MindCrime
Footballguy
Question for those with the Network-- as soon as a PPV is over, can it be re watched? I'm thinking of subscribing for this month, mainly for the NXT show on Saturday. But the kids also want to see summerslam, but they go back to school on Monday, and I don't want to let them up all night on Sunday. Would like to catch most of Summerslam on Monday .
The boys and I have been at every Takeover special except one, and we are pretty bummed about not seeing this one live in person.
The boys and I have been at every Takeover special except one, and we are pretty bummed about not seeing this one live in person.
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lardonastick
Footballguy
Yes, available immediately.
SlaX
Footballguy
Replay starts right after the PPV is over, but will be available on demand for Monday.
HobbesAB
Footballguy
Really liked the promos by Stardust/Barrett and Cena/Rollins. Cody is all in on Stardust and has been on fire with his promos. I like this hero vs villain story he has with Neville and Amell. Expecting a good match from Amell. He is a really good athlete. Will be weird seeing him in wrestling attire and no scars or Russian tattoos.
Wondering where the Cena match is heading. Triple H turns on Seth since he's not living up to expectations? Triple H costs Cena the match to protect Flair's record?
I would love to see Miz and Big Show form a Hollywood Blondes type of tag team. Add Barrett if he doesn't stick with Stardust (and since he was in that movie with Colin Farrell). If not Barrett, then maybe David Otunga since he was also in a movie with Halle Berry. Otunga can also claim to be their agent since he is also a lawyer. Heck...put all 4 of them in there. It's not like WWE is really doing anything with any of them.
Wondering where the Cena match is heading. Triple H turns on Seth since he's not living up to expectations? Triple H costs Cena the match to protect Flair's record?
I would love to see Miz and Big Show form a Hollywood Blondes type of tag team. Add Barrett if he doesn't stick with Stardust (and since he was in that movie with Colin Farrell). If not Barrett, then maybe David Otunga since he was also in a movie with Halle Berry. Otunga can also claim to be their agent since he is also a lawyer. Heck...put all 4 of them in there. It's not like WWE is really doing anything with any of them.
Jeremy
Footballguy
Reigns gets a strong reaction at live crowds, at least in some areas. A lot like Cena I think. Over in most places, but hated by the "cool" fans in places like Philly and Chicago.RBM said:
Still, I don't disagree that turning Ambrose would be a strange decision and Reigns could benefit from a temporary heel turn. Maybe that's the swerve here. We're meant to think Ambrose is turning, but it will really be Reigns?
But are they really going to build a statue for Rollins? My wife thinks Sheamus will walk out the champ.Bogart said:
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Bogart
Footballguy
Would WWE have the guts to turn Roman on Sunday, align him with the Wyatt family? Let Bray talk for him for a while. Harper and Reigns become an unstoppable tag team, and you get Lone Wolf Dean fighting the family every week wondering why he keeps getting betrayed. Would be so easy to write, but I don't think the WWE does it.RBM said:
Jeremy
Footballguy
I'm curious where they're going with this angle. The story they're telling is the Miz doesn't belong in the ring with Show and Ryback. He's gotten crushed by both of them. Normally that would mean Miz will triumph at SS, but they made that effort to make the secondary belts look strong again, so that would be a strange choice.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Undertaker as a heel would be interesting, Cole mentioned two low blows and he got boo'd heavy in Lesnar's home Minnesota. Wondering the reaction for Lesnar and Taker in NYC. Likely both face's, or a slight Lesnar pro crowd.
JB Breakfast Club
Footballguy
I'd like to see Miz take it and pass it on to Cesaro in relatively short order.
I'm more curious about what happens with the US title...I can't imagine they'd drop the title after the unification on Sunday. I guess we could get a unification and a Sheamus cash-in to steal the title and re-separate them immediately, but Sheamus as WWE champion is pretty cringe worthy right now.
UOFI_316
Footballguy
Rollins and Cena are both knocked out/tired, with Cena in the ring and Rollins on the outside. Sheamus goes to cash-in during the match making it a 3-way and pins Cena. Only since both titles were up that only makes Sheamus the US Champion, Cena and Rollins then continue the match to see who wins the WWE.
Bogart
Footballguy
Useless Predictions for the 2015 SummerSlam card:
- Randy Orton vs. Sheamus - Opening match to give time for Sheamus to rest up before cashing in? Honestly, on paper this match bores me to tears, but I enjoy watching Orton work and expect a creative chain of moves and near misses ending with an RKO. Orton teases stealing the briefcase before Sheamus gets it back leaving in a huff.
- Dolph Ziggler (w Lana) vs. Rusev (w Summer Rae) - A mixed tag would have made sense here, even if Lana is limited in her rasslin skills. Rusev tagging in Summer constantly to hide from Ziggler would be good shtick. I honestly don't know where they are going with this, and really don't care. Which is strange, because I enjoy all four people involved. Predicting a Ziggler win caused by either Lana interfering or Summer Rae messing something up.
- Ryback © vs. Big Show vs. Miz - Miz's gimmick plays best when he can play off someone (ala Sandow). Who better to team up with him than brand new Straight-To-Video star Big Show. Put the belt on Miz thanks to help from Show. They become the "The Awesome Show" and another nice comedic duo as Show tries to learn the Hollywood ropes from Miz. Ryback chases eventually getting a partner to help even the odds.
- Prime Time Players © vs. New Day vs. The Lucha Dragons vs. Los Matadores - This match makes me long for K Swiss. Damn you Samoa Joe. Should be a long match with plenty of time for everyone to get their spots in. I would pay the Network extra for an Xavier Woods Cam during this match. New Day needs the belts. Titus O'Neill needs a singles push. And I need to see Enzo and Big Cass on RAW the next night interrupting the New Day celebration. None of this happens as PTP retains and the tag division which was once hot stays stale.
- Team Bella vs. Team B.A.D. vs. Team PCB - Will be a travesty if this doesn't get 45 mins. Will be a biggest travesty if Sasha doesn't win. She will most likely be coming off a lost to Bailey at NXT the night before, and a win here will set up a Sasha vs. Nikki feud.
- The Arrows vs. The Cosmic Kings - Neville will play Ricky Morton and get beat down by Cody and Barrett, hot tag to Amell and we see another spear, punches and some type of "Arrow" move to set up Cody to take the Red Arrow. Amell goes back to playing a superhero on TV. Cody starts yet another doubting himself angle.
- The Wyatt Family vs. Mini-Shield - This should be one of the longer matches (we do have 4 hours to fill). This match should be super, SUPER stiff. Reigns is becoming, IMO, the king of stiff style matches in WWE. There is not a weak link in this match. Every combo makes sense and should lead to good storytelling. Since we haven't had a big SummerSlam swerve at this point, I predict that Reigns turns on Ambrose and The Wyatt Family gains a victory and a new family member. Ambrose leaves the ring on a stretcher and gets a mini vacation before returning prior to Night Of Champions to battle Reigns.
- Kevin Owens vs. Cesaro - Match Of The Night. Not even close. Of course, I'm not really going out on a limb there. Do they get 40 min? 45 min? An hour? I don't care who wins this match. At the end, we will all be winners. If I have to make a prediction, Owens will need the PPV win, again, coming off a probable NXT loss that closes his chapter at Full Sail University. Graduated with Honors.
- John Cena © vs. Seth Rollins © - Does Cena wear a protective mask for this match? Does Rollins finally put on a match as good as his performance from the Royal Rumble? Does anyone interfere? Rollins going in without help could really shine. Prediction: solid 4.5 star match as both guys step up their game. Sheamus comes down and cashes in before the match is actually over. Brogue Kick to Cena, Pedigree to Sheamus. Rollins wins both titles. We get a couple of weeks of Rollins with both belts, maybe even pulling double duty defending on RAW, before he loses the US belt to Owens or Cesaro when the three guys have a Triple Threat-Two Falls match with each fall for a different belt.
- Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar - Taker's first non-WM match since Bragging Rights 2010. "The Match Too Big For Wrestlemania". Taker can't wrestle a typical Lesnar match. He can't take the suplexes. Which is a shame. What I want: Lesnar to completely dominate the match, beat Taker and Taker rides off into the sunset. WM in Dallas isn't Taker's last match but a celebration of his career. Maybe some kind of tag match for his final farewell. What we probably get: Street fight with Taker playing dirty trying to be the heel, all of Lesnar's offense is ground and pound with no high impact moves. Kane returns as the Big Red Monster. He takes some suplexes from Lesnar, but eventually helps Taker win the match. We get Kane vs. Lesnar at the next PPV and build up to Taker/Lesnar III at WM.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Tough Enough last night yet another joke, Yet I still keep watching.
Hoping Josh wins, but ZZ in the finals is a joke still!
Josh is the big Andy mold with more charisma.
Daniel Bryan almost cried when he said he didn't want to use his save. I don't get why.
Judges hate Sara Lee and Amanda seems like the better choice there for Diva purposes.
Hoping Josh wins, but ZZ in the finals is a joke still!
Josh is the big Andy mold with more charisma.
Daniel Bryan almost cried when he said he didn't want to use his save. I don't get why.
Judges hate Sara Lee and Amanda seems like the better choice there for Diva purposes.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Bogart
Footballguy
I would say two of the classics are 1992 when Flair wins the title in the Rumble and 2006 when Mysterio wins from the number 2 spot.
2007 is good with Taker vs. HBK at the end. Any of the Austin wins are pretty solid, especially the third one.
Depending on your son's age, I might steer clear of the Attitude Era Rumbles.
SlaX
Footballguy
I like the idea, but Show isn't a Hollywood noob. Big Show appeared in blockbuster movies long before anyone on the current WWE roster (not just straight-to-video, movies starring Arnold Schwarzenegger and Adam Sandler)
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SlaX
Footballguy
Gary Coal Man
Footballguy
True, plus the '92 Rumble is a great way to introduce your son to the legendary Ric Flair.
JB Breakfast Club
Footballguy
And Bobby Heenan going nuclear on commentary.Gary Coal Man said:
Keith R
The Don
Agree, 1992 is the play here.
Whatever you do, do NOT show him the 1999 Rumble. Best to pretend it never happened. (Although the card featured a vicious I quit match between Mankind and The Rock, which is must see... if your son is old enough to handle it).
Gary Coal Man
Footballguy
A seven year old would probably really dig the caricatures on the '92 Royal Rumble poster too. Be sure to show him this...Gary Coal Man said:Thanks! You had me at Ric Flair. He's 7, so attitude era is out for a few more years lol
http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_1950/subcat_26997/72dpi1992RoyalRumble.jpg
coyote5
Footballguy
That's pretty cool, and that is gonna be a good RR, looking forward to that walk down memory lane.A seven year old would probably really dig the caricatures on the '92 Royal Rumble poster too. Be sure to show him this...Gary Coal Man said:
http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_1950/subcat_26997/72dpi1992RoyalRumble.jpg
Do you guys have any issues with PPV streaming? I use my Apple TV, hardwired, and I know for Battleground I had not infrequent instances where video quality degraded, and also a few times where the feed either stuttered or outright froze. I had a little bit of that, but not as much, with WM as well. Is that an issue WWE network app has with these or more likely something on my end?
SlaX
Footballguy
During live PPV stream, I regularly had issues (intermittent, but it happened more than it should have). But rarely when watching on demand.That's pretty cool, and that is gonna be a good RR, looking forward to that walk down memory lane.A seven year old would probably really dig the caricatures on the '92 Royal Rumble poster too. Be sure to show him this...Gary Coal Man said:
http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_1950/subcat_26997/72dpi1992RoyalRumble.jpg
Do you guys have any issues with PPV streaming? I use my Apple TV, hardwired, and I know for Battleground I had not infrequent instances where video quality degraded, and also a few times where the feed either stuttered or outright froze. I had a little bit of that, but not as much, with WM as well. Is that an issue WWE network app has with these or more likely something on my end?
JB Breakfast Club
Footballguy
I used to have a few buffering issues during live events. Now I take a few devices off of my WiFi while I'm watching, and I don't have any problems at all.
Gary Coal Man
Footballguy
San Diego Padres photoshop old school wrestlers with players for Jumbotron at bat intros. The Atlanta Braves get in on the action too.
http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/2015/08/padres-wrestling-throwback-intros/
http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/2015/08/padres-wrestling-throwback-intros/
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Looks like someone gets it....
http://rajah.com/node/48578
An anonymous veteran wrestler who is considered very respected within the industry when it comes to analyzing matches, noticed several interesting things about the current "Diva Revolution" in WWE.
One of the problems is that the women get worse in the ring on the main roster because three nights a week they are doing five-to-eight minute multiple-person matches, which means they generally do a couple of their regular spots and moves, as opposed to actually "working."
He also noted that because Team Bella flip-flops from heel to babyface so often, it's hard for a fresh new act like Sasha Banks to get over in a match working with someone like Nikki Bella as the established act that is supposed to help get her over to the main roster audience.
Finally, the person saw what was basically a promo from Becky Lynch and Charlotte on Twitter, and noted that it was a considerable amount better than their RAW promos because they were just being themselves.
Beating Nikki ####### Bella (who WWE is on a crusade for her to remove AJ Lee from their fake wrestling 'record books') means nothing.Sasha/Nikki match this past Monday was terrible.Nikki has become passable in the ring but she's JV compared to Sasha & Charlotte. Bellas aren't over as faces.......they aren't over as heels....so they switch roles every other week. Remember the last time Nikki Bella defended her 'title'? Me either. Very convenient to have this trios Divas Revolution to push the belt into the background. The other Bella skank is in the running for most useless all time female in WWE/F history. Atrocious in the ring, can't talk, can't act, and can't connect with the audience to save her life.
Another problem is they haven't developed the new girls characters whatsoever. A very small portion of their audience even watches NXT. If they really wanted a revolution they should have done an NXT vs. WWE feud perhaps culiminating with a match at Survivor Series.
http://rajah.com/node/48578
An anonymous veteran wrestler who is considered very respected within the industry when it comes to analyzing matches, noticed several interesting things about the current "Diva Revolution" in WWE.
One of the problems is that the women get worse in the ring on the main roster because three nights a week they are doing five-to-eight minute multiple-person matches, which means they generally do a couple of their regular spots and moves, as opposed to actually "working."
He also noted that because Team Bella flip-flops from heel to babyface so often, it's hard for a fresh new act like Sasha Banks to get over in a match working with someone like Nikki Bella as the established act that is supposed to help get her over to the main roster audience.
Finally, the person saw what was basically a promo from Becky Lynch and Charlotte on Twitter, and noted that it was a considerable amount better than their RAW promos because they were just being themselves.
Beating Nikki ####### Bella (who WWE is on a crusade for her to remove AJ Lee from their fake wrestling 'record books') means nothing.Sasha/Nikki match this past Monday was terrible.Nikki has become passable in the ring but she's JV compared to Sasha & Charlotte. Bellas aren't over as faces.......they aren't over as heels....so they switch roles every other week. Remember the last time Nikki Bella defended her 'title'? Me either. Very convenient to have this trios Divas Revolution to push the belt into the background. The other Bella skank is in the running for most useless all time female in WWE/F history. Atrocious in the ring, can't talk, can't act, and can't connect with the audience to save her life.
Another problem is they haven't developed the new girls characters whatsoever. A very small portion of their audience even watches NXT. If they really wanted a revolution they should have done an NXT vs. WWE feud perhaps culiminating with a match at Survivor Series.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
If you have about 18 minutes, here's a true masterpiece from this year's New Japan G1 Climax.
Neither of these guys has a gimmick (Shibata is a kickboxing "I R SRS" type while Ibushi is a Steamboat: great worker, not much on personality), but these two just go to freaking war in a classic.
Neither of these guys has a gimmick (Shibata is a kickboxing "I R SRS" type while Ibushi is a Steamboat: great worker, not much on personality), but these two just go to freaking war in a classic.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Sorry GB, but anyone predicting 45 minute matches is going to make me
They're going to spend 45 minutes hyping/cutting promos minimum.
Bogart
Footballguy
True. I have no doubt that is going to happen. But with 240 minutes to fill and 10 matches, that's giving each match basically 24 mins of time. I don't think we get a 10 min match out of the IC match, the Tag Match and possibly others. Taker/Lesnar is going to be short. It may take Taker longer to get to the ring. There is going to be some flexibility and some time to give to other matches.Sorry GB, but anyone predicting 45 minute matches is going to make me
Besides, a guy can dream, right?
D in the D
Footballguy
I would add my vote for the '92 rumble as well.
Keith R
The Don
I'm hoping for a clean win for Rollins over Cena.
Absent that, I'll certainly take a long match interrupted by Sheamus cashing in, making it a 3-way, and ending similar to Summerslam 2012. That's where Cena AAed Big Show, Punk pushed Cena out and pinned Show to keep the title. It throws Sheamus under the bus but that's a small casuality IMO - he is not an interesting MITB caseholder.
Absent that, I'll certainly take a long match interrupted by Sheamus cashing in, making it a 3-way, and ending similar to Summerslam 2012. That's where Cena AAed Big Show, Punk pushed Cena out and pinned Show to keep the title. It throws Sheamus under the bus but that's a small casuality IMO - he is not an interesting MITB caseholder.
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