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***Official Pro Wrestling Thread*** (5 Viewers)

Tom Servo said:
The answer is no. Nazi gimmicks were common in the years after WW2 as a way to get heat. (BTW, Colonel DeBeers says hi.) As more time passed, the gimmick became less effective at drawing heat. I'd hate to see people today watching DeBeers and early Fritz Von Erich - they'd have a darn fit.

In the 80s, the Iron Sheik, Nikolai, the Koloffs, etc. were still pretty much cartoonish stereotypes. Vince can't (or won't) do anything but foreign heels. Slaughter caught nuclear heat for being an Iraqi turncoat and kayfabe presenting the WWF title to Saddam Hussein. The story behind WM in 91 was (supposed) death/terrorist threats towards the LA Coliseum; in actuality, it was lousy ticket sales that led to the change of venue.

Russians were portrayed more realistically in the NWA. They were villainous, but not cartoonishly so. When Nikita Koloff turned face and joined up with Dusty, the place exploded, and rightly so.
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Exactly I'm by far and away no SJW type but I'm also for scrutinizing when it is needed (Hogan is a good example of this for me). This just seems like Satin trying to get some hits for his twitter. 

 
RAW is in Miami tonight. Rumors are Hulk Hogan is there. No word on if he's there for meetings again or will appear on RAW

Rock could show up at WM35 and face Roman Reigns. 

 
SDLive was kind of a snooze fest. I wonder with Charlotte now in the triple threat they Turn Becky heel soon. I missed other parts of the show tonight. New Day on commentary was over kill. The 3 man booth is already annoying can we not have pancake gate added to that slop already? Boy do I miss the days of Lawyer/JR, Joey Styles solo, and Vince and (Insert whoever in early days of RAW) right now. Mario Raunollo is the only great guy. I can tolerate Phillips but that's more of a bias since he's a Philly guy too. 

Also I talked to some I know in ROH on Monday. This kind of got confirmed from the podcast who I listen to who heard it from their source. My ROH guy has a source in WWE (Had two one use to be Jimmy Jacobs when he did creative) who said WWE wanted to do Reigns/Rock at Summerslam but talks fell through. He said the biggest issue is with Rock doing movies now and after he hurt his bicep at Mania wrestling Cena studios don't want to take chances with him and WWE has to pay insurance or something to use him where they are liable for any bills if Rock got injured while with them. SO now the plan is to have Braun lose the MITB case to KO. The Authority will somehow I believe screw Braun over for KO to win. Remember when Finn Balor got hurt Hunter was a big push for KO and Balor and when Finn relinquished the strap they threw it immediately on KO. They weren't happy with KO's first run but wanted to give him another goal. The goal here is to have Reigns somehow beat Brock either with help from Heyman or some other way. Roman gets cashed in at some point by KO. Reigns possible turns heel (This was not confirmed but more of suggested) and Rock comes back sometime before Mania before or after RR. Reigns wins the belt off of KO somehow and the WM35 Rock vs Reigns for the Strap. Now granted things change fast but the plans are for Rock/Reigns now at WM35 for the strap. 

 
For those who don't know family members of the Samoan Dynasty Roman reigns is in a Twitter war with his cousin Bad Boy Tama Tonga in NJPW with G O D with his brother Tonga Loa. Loa introduced Tonga at the G1 Climax the last 2 singles matches and is getting nuclear heat now in NJPW. Loa when introducing his brother took a complete blatantly pot shot at Reigns mentioning how Tama doesn't need to get over by c*cking fist. It was absolutely funny. During their twitter war its believe Tama Tonga's Twitter account was suspended for 18 hrs and Reigns may have had something to do with it. Either way here's the introduction at 1:05 its starts

Gorrillas of Destiny low blow Roman Reigns in promo at G1 Tournament

 
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DJackson10 said:
Also I talked to some I know in ROH on Monday. This kind of got confirmed from the podcast who I listen to who heard it from their source. My ROH guy has a source in WWE (Had two one use to be Jimmy Jacobs when he did creative) who said WWE wanted to do Reigns/Rock at Summerslam but talks fell through. He said the biggest issue is with Rock doing movies now and after he hurt his bicep at Mania wrestling Cena studios don't want to take chances with him and WWE has to pay insurance or something to use him where they are liable for any bills if Rock got injured while with them. SO now the plan is to have Braun lose the MITB case to KO. The Authority will somehow I believe screw Braun over for KO to win. Remember when Finn Balor got hurt Hunter was a big push for KO and Balor and when Finn relinquished the strap they threw it immediately on KO. They weren't happy with KO's first run but wanted to give him another goal. The goal here is to have Reigns somehow beat Brock either with help from Heyman or some other way. Roman gets cashed in at some point by KO. Reigns possible turns heel (This was not confirmed but more of suggested) and Rock comes back sometime before Mania before or after RR. Reigns wins the belt off of KO somehow and the WM35 Rock vs Reigns for the Strap. Now granted things change fast but the plans are for Rock/Reigns now at WM35 for the strap. 
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:yucky:  

At this point I'd like to point out that Kevin Owens is a big baby for blocking me on Twitter.

 
coyote5 said:
Not following why you include Rollins here.  He's as over as anyone on either roster right now.
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Pretty easy to understand with the amount of piped in crowd effect at the beginning of his entrance. It's really just comical (much like the Brian Christopher video). Particularly for Rollins, Reigns, and whenever the talentless Bellas show up.

Wouldn't even disagree to whatever extent "over" means these days but it isn't saying much. People aren't flocking to events/TV saying "I gotta go see Seth Rollins". The crowd had to entertain themselves because they had no interest in his match vs. Ziggler. WWE reaps what they sew when they base the product on in-ring action where the audience has no emotional investment.

 
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Craig_MiamiFL said:
Pretty easy to understand with the amount of piped in crowd effect at the beginning of his entrance. It's really just comical (much like the Brian Christopher video). Particularly for Rollins, Reigns, and whenever the talentless Bellas show up.

Wouldn't even disagree to whatever extent "over" means these days but it isn't saying much. People aren't flocking to events/TV saying "I gotta go see Seth Rollins". The crowd had to entertain themselves because they had no interest in his match vs. Ziggler. WWE reaps what they sew when they base the product on in-ring action where the audience has no emotional investment.
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Whatever man.  Comparing the crowd reactions for Rollins to that Brian Christopher vid is stupid.

 
So Ty Dillinger and Cedrick Alexander were victims of internet bullying. Apparently a bunch of triggered invdividuals are going around trying to dig up bad tweets and other social media sent out by celebrities and athletes and famous people to try and get them fired that were posted years ago. Both apologized and I have no idea why they did. Don't cave into the pressure of these freaks. Both had made jokes about r##e including the famous it's not if you YELL SURPRISE. Yankees Pitcher Sonny Gray was also targeted this week. people can change over that length of time and honestly the people doing this are no different then what they believe these people are. James Gunn was fired from Guardians of the Galaxy for some pretty daming tweets about child jokes from 2011 or so. These are the same types of people that are fans of Roman Reigns and if you don't agree with them tell you that they are gonna to kill you and do very bad things I won't and can't mention on here to your wife and kids. Internet hypocritical bullies at their finest. 

 
Part of me wishes I could have voted for Kane. All of me is glad I do not live in Knoxville.

 
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Two notes:

1. Apparently Tyrus found a life outside of TNA. He appears on The Greg Gutfield Show on Fox News. He’s seems thoughtful and kinda funny. 

2. Shane Helms must hold the rights to the Hurricane character as he’s been using it in Ring of Honor. 

 
Broadcast information announced for ALL IN

The updated card:

NWA Worlds Heavyweight Championship: Nick Aldis (c) vs. Cody Rhodes

Kazuchika Okada vs. Marty Scurll

Adam Page vs. Joey Janela (with Penelope Ford)

Rey Mysterio, Bandido, and Fenix vs. The Young Bucks and Kota Ibushi

Stephen Amell vs. Christopher Daniels

The Over Budget Battle Royale - Zero Hour Pre-Show
Jordynne Grace, Moose, Rocky Romero, Colt Cabana, Ethan Page, and TBA

Zero Hero Pre-Show
The Briscoes vs. Frankie Kazarian and Scorpio Sky

 
Apparently Tama Tonga is facing disciplinary action for choking a fan at one of the G1 climax. I'm still not caught up on everything yet so really can't say for sure. From those who saw it it seemed more like a work thing that the fan was involved in. Tonga and Bullet Club OGs have been trying to go back to the old school tactics Tama used when Prince Devitt and company were the original members. 

 
It's official: Chris Jericho is on his way to IMPACT wrestling.  Because of the situations he has with his cruise, I know it was only a matter of time before he signed.

 
Ashem said:
What situation does he have with the cruise?
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Yeah I don't know this "situation" either. Also it's more of Y2J hasn't signed with them. More of with it being in Canada and how he helped with the management issues with Anthem, got D'Amore a promotion and had Don Calis put in charge because he said the previous owners were ran by a bunch of "snakes and liars" he might be willing to work with them. Remember Jericho has said he won't do anything in states to not upset Vince so this is good news. 

 
Chris Jericho is doing what he calls the "Rock 'n' Wrestling Rager at Sea" from October 27-31.  The ship will set sail from Miami to Nassau.  If you need more information, just go to www.chrisjerichocruise.com.

 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
:lol:

Unless they start putting them on Youtube or Twitch, I don't imagine anyone will. They'd make more money from tips, that's for certain. The ####'s PopTV!?!? They're not paying Impact a dime right now.
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PopTV is the former TV Guide Channel, which was on pretty much every provider's channel list.  I was surprised when I found that I had it too.  

 
Tom Servo said:
Kenny Omega v. Pentagon Dark at  All In. 

Bleep yes!!!!
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Dam that's pretty awesome. I also read that WWE is interested in Pentagon Dark and his Bother Ray Fenix. They said a deal is easier then some think the only obstacle is the LU contracts but they can do what Ricochet did and buy out his LU deal. Having those two in NXT would be awesome. One of the reasons I started to like Pentagon was actually his ring gear. Wasn't until LU that Matt Striker made a passing mention they were brothers. Wasn't sure if it was a story line character thing or real but after looking it up saw they were. 

 
I went to the event in Pittsburgh after the incident described here happened.

In January of 1987, he was on a flight from Tampa to Pittsburgh when he was charged with punching a female flight attendant who worked for U.S. Air.  He swore that he never touched her, and was acquitted a few months later. 
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Of course, he wasn't acquitted when got there so the crowd started a long, sustained chant of "Jailbird, Jailbird" when the Hart Foundation was introduced to take on the British Bulldogs at the Civic Arena. It was awesome.

 
Gottabesweet said:
Ronda isn't the best speaker and they tried to make it genuine.  What a fail, then the Segway into the match.  Terrible.  I thought Renae Young was a nice change on commentary but it felt like a kickoff show panel often.
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I mean, no 10 bell salute, no black background photo, nothing except that.

IMO, it's not what he deserved.

 
Gottabesweet said:
Ronda isn't the best speaker and they tried to make it genuine.  What a fail, then the Segway into the match.  Terrible.  I thought Renae Young was a nice change on commentary but it felt like a kickoff show panel often.
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Renae should stay. Coach and whoever else they want to put in there can go do backstage stuff or just stay off TV. The speech by Rhonda was weird by Nattie is a legit good friend of hers. Ronda also lost her father at the age of 8 to suicide. Apparently the opening match was suppose to be Alexa vs Nattie until her dad died so they did the best they could IMHO with a huge change like that. 

 
Tom Servo said:
I mean, no 10 bell salute, no black background photo, nothing except that.

IMO, it's not what he deserved.
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WWE for the main roster seems to be shying away from those things. I've noticed more that NxT has been doing the tributes more. 

 
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