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***Official Pro Wrestling Thread*** (3 Viewers)

1. Vince is an idiot for having Extreme Rules in Philly.  That town will never hesitate to crap on something if they don't like it. 25 years from now, they're still going to chant ECW; the E may as well get used to it as well as Chicago chanting for CM Punk.

2. Realistically, they should pare down the PPVs.  Other than the 4 tentpole events, the others should be more like glorified RAWs.  More than RAW or SDL, but less than a PPV - heck, call it WWE Sunday Night and glam and gimmick it up.  Get rid of the actual names for these and that would allow you to run more gimmick matches.

 
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Tom Servo said:
1. Vince is an idiot for having Extreme Rules in Philly.  That town will never hesitate to crap on something if they don't like it. 25 years from now, they're still going to chant ECW; the E may as well get used to it as well as Chicago chanting for CM Punk.

2. Realistically, they should pare down the PPVs.  Other than the 4 tentpole events, the others should be more like glorified RAWs.  More than RAW or SDL, but less than a PPV - heck, call it WWE Sunday Night and glam and gimmick it up.  Get rid of the actual names for these and that would allow you to run more gimmick matches.
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1. Yes its like when they use to go to MTL before the hatchet was buried the Fans kept chanting You Screwed Brett. Not gonna end

2. I've been a fan of cutting down on PPVs. Besides the Big 4  separate the other ones. Vince hates Tournaments but if Hunter gets involved cut 2 PPVs off and say after Mania do a Backlash in May. June/July could (or put it betweenn RR and Maniabecome) King of the Ring and the finals winner gets to pick a championship of his choosing to go after. You can put wrestlers from NXT/NXT UK in it to show someone off maybe you want to bring up eventually. Put MITB match as part of Mania again or have the matches at the Final for this. 

For special cases like Halloween bring back Halloween Havoc and and 4th of July The American Bash. No need to have all these PPVs 12 is too many. I remember when they did the brand split every other month RAW or Smackdown had their own PPV besides the big 4. I would love WWE to go to a NJPW schedule of tours with different Divisions of their weight classes but that will never happen. 

 
Word from 3 different people Paul Heyman is NOW IN CHARGE OF RAW. Tonight is his first show. Brad Sheppard also tweeted it 

 
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Also fun baseless fact but I almost bought tickets in 1 of the 2 sections for last night where Braun/Trashley started to go outside the ring at going up to the concourse section. Diagonal from the fans looking to your right is the main entrance to the arena  

 
I hope we get Wyatt vs Demon at SS. This could legit be a great feud. Wyatt not only needs a win but the losing can eventually have Balor turn heel and finally Join the Club. Wyatt needs a win first match back too

 
According to Brad Sheppard Finn Balor asked for 2 months off to recharge his batteries. This won't happen till sometime in August presumable after SummerSlam. Like I stated above Wyatt needs to win his first match back. Balor going on a losing streak and taking two months off helps. He comes back and Joins The Club 

 
Making a bold prediction this 4 way ends in a no contest. Ronda comes back and tears all of them up declaring she never lost her title. There you go Ronda vs Becky at Summerslam 

 
Meant to post last night

"The New Day is the first faction since Evolution to hold thew we champ and wwe tag titles at the same time some 17 yrs ago...Even if Kofi loses it before the show is over they just made history again as being blacks and holding the titles @ same time also they are the first Faces to hold the tag and wwe champ titles for the first time ever.... someone check for me further but not even the mega powers had both at the same time.."

 
So why wouldn't Seth just invoke his rematch with Brock?  Why put on this silly battle royal where everyone knew he was going to win anyway?  The battle royal could have been to see who would be the next jobber for RR.

Natalia vs Becky at SS?   :yawn:   Is Charlotte on vacation?

 
Jayrok said:
So why wouldn't Seth just invoke his rematch with Brock?  Why put on this silly battle royal where everyone knew he was going to win anyway?  The battle royal could have been to see who would be the next jobber for RR.

Natalia vs Becky at SS?   :yawn:   Is Charlotte on vacation?
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There are no automatic rematches in the E anymore. 

 
Jayrok said:
So why wouldn't Seth just invoke his rematch with Brock?  Why put on this silly battle royal where everyone knew he was going to win anyway?  The battle royal could have been to see who would be the next jobber for RR.

Natalia vs Becky at SS?   :yawn:   Is Charlotte on vacation?
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Rematch clauses are no longer given

Charlote was dealing with a death in Andrade's family and do we really need Becky/Charlotte again? Natty is From Canada SS is in Toronto. Could've liked to have seen Alexa vs Becky 

 
Good god Vince a #### Joke reference again for the second night in a row? You know he's back in Gorilla telling the closes guy to him "Thats some Great #### Man. That #### was hilarious". 

 
Balor is only taking one month off

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Brad Shepard Retweeted Brad Shepard

To follow up on this, I’m told Finn Balor is already home taking his scheduled time off and will return at the go-home #RAW for #WWE SummerSlam (which would be about a month off, as I originally reported).

 
I am currently all caught up on G1. :o

Recommended viewing (if time allows in parentheses):

All of Night 1 in Dallas

Night 2: 6-man tag with Young Lions & Tanahashi & KENTA, Shingo Takagi-Juice Robinson, Jeff Cobb-Tomohiro Ishii, (Hirooki Goto-Jay White, Toru Yano-Tetsuya Naito, Jon Moxley-Taichi)

All A Block matches Night 3 - five flippin' fantastic tourney matches. All delivered.

Night 4: 8-man tag with Tanahashi & KENTA & Suzuki-Gun, Hirooki Goto-Juice Robinson, Tomohiro Ishii-Jay White, (Jon Moxley-Jeff Cobb). This was not a great night - I think Naito might be really banged up.

A lot recommended even on a weaker show. Lance Archer and Juice Robinson are both off to a great start. Thus far Moxley is still working his way up to true G1-caliber matches, while KENTA has shown he is already on that level. Mox will have a chance to really prove himself against Ishii in just a few hours. Ishii always delivers, so if he can't here it will say something about Jon imo.

 
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Calling it now: true coming out party for Juice Robinson this tourney. Gedo vaults him up to the Intercontinental Championship part of the card.

 
I'm listening to the Jim Ross podcast on the Vengeance 2004 PPV. It turns out that Eugene (Nick Densmore) was named after a special needs person who lived in Pittsburgh who came to the matches with his dad. The guy was in his 40s at the time and had Downs Syndrome.

And, here comes the swerve...he had a crush on Moolah!! :X

 
Tom Servo said:
I'm listening to the Jim Ross podcast on the Vengeance 2004 PPV. It turns out that Eugene (Nick Densmore) was named after a special needs person who lived in Pittsburgh who came to the matches with his dad. The guy was in his 40s at the time and had Downs Syndrome.

And, here comes the swerve...he had a crush on Moolah!! :X
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Love the JR podcast.  Lots of insider info and his co host is good at structuring the show to keep things from going off the rails.

 
If you haven't Seen Shawn Spears (AKA Tye Dillinger) interview with JR why he attacked Cody and the swerve at the end I suggest watching it. AEW already made Shawn Spears matter more in 1 interview then WWE did ever. 

 
Brad Sheppard reported the Ziggler line to Miz about Goldberg Bag was a shot at his match vs Undertaker at Blood $$$$. Shepard on his Oh You Didn't Know Podcast reported many in WWE blamed Bill Goldberg for many of the botches during the match. Zigglers comment was a direct shot to Bill. 

 
Today The Wrestling Observer reported on something I reported back when Moxely left WWE about WWE taking passwords and accounts of talent if the account was WWE owned do to the character and not a personal account like Styles, Samoa Joe and some others. WWE is opening up a brand management job where the people are tasked for looking into social media post by wrestlers. Talent will also be not allowed to post or tweet about AEW and other brands soon unless it's a direct response done so through Vince or someone else with Vince's approval. 

 
Meltzer also reported about another thing I posted about WWE NXT moving to Fox possible FS1 with a ton of promotional work and possible specials. Dave has been a little slow on both of these reports ever since he lost his WWE insiders. 

 
Eric Bischoff not in charge of creative for WWE. He's more like a liaison for WWE for FOX. I think this move by WWE was more to keep him from AEW. 

HBK is starting next Tues on SDL as an announcer. Taking over on Commentary

CM Punk has tweeted out he will be at Starcast III for one on one interview some meet and greets

CM Punk's old friend Colt Cobanna is announcing end of his podcast. 

 
DJackson10 said:
Meltzer also reported about another thing I posted about WWE NXT moving to Fox possible FS1 with a ton of promotional work and possible specials. Dave has been a little slow on both of these reports ever since he lost his WWE insiders. 
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Why'd he lose insiders? He and WWE have beef or something?

 
I like the upper card of AEW. There some good guys that can carry the company I think. Main event picture it's shaping up like Jericho (idk how long he'll keep wrestling tho), Paige, Kenny, Spears I'd hope, maybe Cody but I feel he'll stay away from the title to avoid looking like HHH, and eventually they'll get MJF in there as he develops.

 
ShamrockPride said:
Why'd he lose insiders? He and WWE have beef or something?
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Hunter and a bunch of others came out saying that they just used Meltzer for yrs for WWE rumors they wanted out in the open. They admitted this a year or so ago. A few people I know said Dave has very little sources left in WWE either they are no longer with the company or were told to no longer talk to them. WWE also gives their go to Stories to Justin Barrasso of Sports Illustrated and ESPN now instead of Meltzer so Dave no longer is the main guy reporting on WWE backstage stuff. Over the last 1 1/2 yrs he's been months or even longer late on rumors already reported and even at times has reported said info was wrong at the time it came out only to admit it was true a month later. Dave Meltzer use to be the go to guy for WWE news but he's not longer that.

Also to discredit Dave even more WWE came out admitting they've been feeding him false info lately. WWE doesn't care if a guy two know what's going on because once they know who the source is they tend to feed them info they want out in the open. This Is why I've been saying since last Dec Wrestlevotes lost their source or it got compromised. They are being fed only crap WWE doesn't care comes out in the open or feed them BS. I called them out on it and got blocked. One of my sources called them out too on Twitter even went through 5-8 rumors at that time were completely off by WrestleVotes. Instead of defending themselves WrestleVotes just blocked them. This is after my source came out saying they worked for WWE too. I've talked to a few of the dirt Sheet writers who've contacted me and they've even said they heard similar about the Wrestlevotes account. WWE is just getting better on who gets info and who doesn't. I haven't heard a thing from my one source in months. They weren't GOT or anything just saying getting the news from others is hard to come by these days. For instance I would've heard about the Wyatt/Balor plans before Wyatt redebuted among other things. 

 
The Rock isn't ruling out an appearance on Raw Reunion. Looking over his schedule. There will be a segment involved KO and Austin and Cena is expected to be at RAW as well. 

According to Brad Sheppard Balor for now won't portray The Demon Character when Facing Wyatt. This makes sense as WWE on the main roster has been very protective of that part of Balor. 

Also according to Sheppard (He's really good when it comes to HoF stuff btw) Kane and Big Show are early considerations for 2020 Class. 

Theres also Internal talks NXT could go to Fox/FS1 before AEW debuts on TNT

Also from Brad Sheppard @ShamrockPride like I posted above this info down below is something I'd have been told by now as well 

According to a source in #WWE, the company will have a lighter live event schedule in late-2020.

he source elaborated that nobody wants to be “that person,” but it’s been the elephant in the room for a while. Roman Reigns pitched the idea of an offseason, which I’m told will never happen, but it made them think about being able to curb injuries and frustrations more often. The source described this as “a start.” #WWE

Steve Carrier reports NXT on Fox to combat AEW is only part of the reason. If you remember I posted awhile back that WWE and Fox were considering running NXT on there instead of the network. This was because FOX wanted more WWE programing to fill the UFC voids they had. Another show to help this is a weekly talk program with Jerry The King Lawler as he's a name many are familiar with hosting a show of some sort. Fox also wants NXT women's Champ as Shayna Baszler which I believe is do to her prior UFC experience. 

Carrier had some harsh words for Meltzer the other day too

™️ Jul 17

Mike Johnson and @davemeltzerWON's coverage of Paul Heyman and Eric Bischoff has been some of the worst reporting I've ever seen. It's actually an embarrassment that we cover them on @ringsidenews_

 
For those who missed it, below is the updated listing of Legends, Hall of Famers and Superstars advertised for Monday's RAW Reunion special from the Amalie Arena in Tampa: I'll bold some of this. 

* Alicia Fox Will she be sober? 
* Alundra Blayze 
* Booker T
* Candice Michelle I still get uhhem issues when I see the GoDaddy Commercials. What a babe she was 
* Christian Edge better be there
* D-Von Dudley (Bubba was invited word is he turned it down but some feel that he could be a surprise)
* DX (Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Sean "X-Pac" Waltman, "Road Dogg" BG James) This isn't DX without Billy Gunn I'm sorry 
* Eric Bischoff
* Eve Torres Always nice seeing Eve. She married a Gracie and she is a self defense MMA teacher for Women now 
* Gerald Brisco
* Hulk Hogan (Not really thrilled seeing a racist) 
* Hurricane Helms
* Jillian Hall (She was IMHO one of the better workers in her time)
* Jonathan Coachman
* Jerry Lawler
* Jimmy Hart
* Kaitlyn Always nice to see Celeste 
* Kelly Kelly MY WWE/ECW Crush she had the same name as a co-worker at the time I started working my Job I liked
* Kevin Nash
* Kurt Angle Maybe him and his "son" Jason Jordan Can reunite again
* Lilian Garcia
* Mark Henry One of the Nicest people I ever met. Met him at RR before Eagles SB and Despite being a Cowgirl fan he was rooting for the Eagles. 
* Melina Rumors were she was the reason John Morrison never went far in WWE. She is talented. Last saw her in Lucha Underground for a quick minute
* Mick Foley I want all 4 phases
* Pat Patterson Hide the Ring boys and keep your kids away
* Ric Flair
* Rikishi I Want Scotty Too Hotty with him. If not he better be doing something with his sons 
* Ron Simmons DAMN!!!!!!
* Santino Marella Santino was always funny but my co worker who does production said he's a jackass and difficult to work with. One of those thinks he's funny but he's not
* Scott Hall
* Sgt. Slaughter
* Shawn Michaels Always nice seeing HBK 
* Sid Vicious
* Steve Austin I would legit mark out to get a Stunner and he doesn't even need to offer me a Stevewieser either
* Ted DiBiase Sr. 
* The Boogeyman Boogey was always cool 
* The Godfather Is the HO Train invited because thats a no go for me if not

 
DJackson10 said:
he source elaborated that nobody wants to be “that person,” but it’s been the elephant in the room for a while. Roman Reigns pitched the idea of an offseason, which I’m told will never happen, but it made them think about being able to curb injuries and frustrations more often. The source described this as “a start.” #WWE
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Heh, this makes me like RR slightly more. Ballsy. He knows his voice has weight and isn't afraid to throw it around a bit.

 
ShamrockPride said:
Heh, this makes me like RR slightly more. Ballsy. He knows his voice has weight and isn't afraid to throw it around a bit.
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He seems to know now he can speak up more. This is why a lot of IWC fans are mad at RR because he has some pull and knows he's getting booed and should be going to Vince and Creative pitching ideas to help his character as well but just doesn't seem too. 

 
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