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***Official Pro Wrestling Thread*** (2 Viewers)

hagmania said:
Top to bottom better than WK 11, but no match quite eclipsed Okada-Omega I.

Awesome, awesome show.
100% agree. 

I actually thought the Junior Heavyweight Fatal 4-way stole the show, though I might be biased as I think Will Ospreay is slowly becoming the wrestler I enjoy watching the most, and he and Scurll have great chemistry. Suzuki/Goto was another undercard standout, and I'm not really a big fan of Goto usually, but man he took a beating. 

Only match I wasn't 100% into was the tag team title match between K.E.S vs L.I.J. Even then, that was still a solid C+ match.

Jericho/Omega was absolutely not a let down. Main event was stellar, and I really liked the finish a ton. 

 
REMINDER:

Wrestle Kingdom 12, New Japan Pro Wrestling's annual supershow at the Tokyo Dome, will air live on NJPW World, their online streaming network, on Jan. 4. But those who don't subscribe to the network, or who can't stay up late enough in the U.S., won't have to wait long to watch the IWGP championship match between Kazuchika Okada and Tetsuya Naito, or the dream match between Kenny Omega and Chris Jericho. Just two days later, on Jan. 6, AXS TV will air a three-hour broadcast of the show starting at 8 p.m.

 
Yeah, I'm recording tonight.  I have fallen way away from wrestling, but crippling insomnia has led me to stumbling upon the AXS NJPW broadcasts at like 4 AM.  And it's been kind of fun, even if I think that Ospreay guy should turn down the flippy floppy crap by like a thousand.  He semi botches like 10 spots a match.  Omega is as good as advertised.  Gives his high spots room to breathe.  Lots of great character work throughout the match.  Always telling a story.  Kind of strikes me as a cross between Pillman and DDP in his Alpha **** mode.  

 
I hadn't watched a storybuilding/house show before. That was kind of neat, and watching the Young Lions work was fascinating.

 
Quite the recruting class for WWE today. You can add Mrs. Johnny Wrestling, Candice LeRae to the class. I wonder if Joey Ryan is too far behind?

 
wrestling is so god awful... yet... living in jersey, I'm strangely compelled to check out the rumble and the 25th anniversary Raw

Definitely leaning Raw, I've never seen Stone Cold live, and even in a visitor capacity would love to hear that glass break

I feel like the show has been so awful and flat that there has to be something up their sleeve

 
Smack Tripper said:
wrestling is so god awful... yet... living in jersey, I'm strangely compelled to check out the rumble and the 25th anniversary Raw

Definitely leaning Raw, I've never seen Stone Cold live, and even in a visitor capacity would love to hear that glass break

I feel like the show has been so awful and flat that there has to be something up their sleeve
The only guy I like is enzo amore and its obviously not due to his wrestling skills. Dude cracks me up. 

 
This blonde chick from the riot squad needs to team with Alexa Bliss.  Would be perhaps the most adorable tag team in WWE history.  

 
Thanks to Something To Wrestle With Bruce Prichard, decided to play Vengeance 2001 to watch in the background. Complete forgot that this was Prime Lita, Prime Trish and PRIME Stacy Keibler at the time. If you want to see Stacy with her skirt pulled down and spanked by Big Show, check this out on the network. And blah, blah, Jericho, Rock, Austin and Angle fighting for the undisputed champion.

 
Smack Tripper said:
wrestling is so god awful... yet... living in jersey, I'm strangely compelled to check out the rumble and the 25th anniversary Raw

Definitely leaning Raw, I've never seen Stone Cold live, and even in a visitor capacity would love to hear that glass break

I feel like the show has been so awful and flat that there has to be something up their sleeve
Live? Even after 20 years, if you've never been in an arena to see Austin, must see. Not gonna get that many more chances. But how do you know which location (Barclays or Manhattan) Austin will be at? There a way to tell?

 
Bogart said:
Quite the recruting class for WWE today. You can add Mrs. Johnny Wrestling, Candice LeRae to the class. I wonder if Joey Ryan is too far behind?
Di ck flips aren't going to happen in WWE now; during the Attitude Era it would've happened, but definitely not now.

 
Live? Even after 20 years, if you've never been in an arena to see Austin, must see. Not gonna get that many more chances. But how do you know which location (Barclays or Manhattan) Austin will be at? There a way to tell?
I don't, I can only guess they'd have Austin in the big room.  Those tix are also much cheaper.  I would assume the nWo, Dibiase, probably Brother Love for manhattan center in terms of those acts being prominent in the early raw era.  Could even see opening with "Diesel/Razor/1-2-3 Kid" in Manhattan and then appearing later as Nash/Hall/Xpac at the Barclays

Give me Austin and Give me Flair at the barclays and I'm a happy camper

 
I went down a wormhole of watching raw episodes from 2000. 

The fans every week from 1998-2001 were super passionate and involved in the match. 

Good god, check out the heat triple hhh got and pop for Y2J! :lmao:  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMFyeoVmqcg&t=4s
I actually think this was where the attitude era peaked, not the more often cited Wrestlemania Auistin heel turn (which also sucked)

HHH was already stale here, they should have given Jericho the ball at this point and let him run.  By the time he won the unifed belts, it wasn't quite the same but he could been a real top top guy with this win

 
I actually think this was where the attitude era peaked, not the more often cited Wrestlemania Auistin heel turn (which also sucked)

HHH was already stale here, they should have given Jericho the ball at this point and let him run.  By the time he won the unifed belts, it wasn't quite the same but he could been a real top top guy with this win
How good was the Big Show in 2000? Would him and Jericho made a good feud then?

 
I actually think this was where the attitude era peaked, not the more often cited Wrestlemania Auistin heel turn (which also sucked)

HHH was already stale here, they should have given Jericho the ball at this point and let him run.  By the time he won the unifed belts, it wasn't quite the same but he could been a real top top guy with this win
I thought that most people cite the Wrestlemania X7 Austin heel turn as the end of the attitude era, not the peak of it.    It's definitely not the peak, though.

 
Peak of the Attitude Era is probably the Austin Beer Truck. Right smack dab in the middle of November '97 (Vince & The Cure for the Common Show) and WM17.

 
Peak of the Attitude Era is probably the Austin Beer Truck. Right smack dab in the middle of November '97 (Vince & The Cure for the Common Show) and WM17.
#1 on the top 25 moments of raw. I forgot how awesome wwe was at that time. Stone cold, rock, mankind, Vince, triple h. all superstars. Not a single guy compares to them now.

 

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