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***Official Rap/Hip Hop Discussion Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Listening to Future's Pluto from 2012. It sounds great, even timely though it's nearly a decade ago.

Nice and auto-tuned. 

 
While garnering generally positive reviews, I'm not really feeling Nas's King's Disease at all. The beats aren't enough to hold my interest even though I put Nas up there with Biggie/Jay/Ghost as Kings of New York.

Yeah, I slipped Ghost in there, but he's still relevant, whereas Nas seems to get bonus points for longevity and effort. But I am not feeling this new album right now. Perhaps I'm looking for foreground. AZ shines as always in a guest spot with The Firm . Always been a sucker for his flow. The Firm shoulda been bigger. The only thing holding them back must have been production. Three killer emcees in 'Mega, Foxy Brown, and AZ.

 
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Just ordered Vince Staples's Summertime '06 [Segments One and Two] on vinyl for about fifty bucks total. I think it's that good. I need to own it for posterity. I have no idea what makes it so good, whether it's the grimy production boosted by No I.D.'s contributions or what, but it was a Def Jam event that got overlooked. He (Vince) was truly something else on this record.

 
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Is there some sort of easy way on Spotify to find the radio edit version of albums?  Would like a way to listen to rap when my kids are in the car but  at a minimum all the N-words are bleeped out.

 
SouthJersey said:
Is there some sort of easy way on Spotify to find the radio edit version of albums?  Would like a way to listen to rap when my kids are in the car but  at a minimum all the N-words are bleeped out.
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Most albums but not all do have a non Explicit version.  or a radio version.  otherwise, there is always the instrumental :shrug:

Im in the same boat.  My kid picks up everything so i have to be careful what i play. 

 
PinkydaPimp said:
Most albums but not all do have a non Explicit version.  or a radio version.  otherwise, there is always the instrumental :shrug:

Im in the same boat.  My kid picks up everything so i have to be careful what i play. 
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Yea.  A few albums have a full radio edit on Spotify.  The only one i regulrarly listen to is the 1st DMX album.  Can't find any Biggie, Nas, Jay-Z Wu-Tang that's radio version though. 

 
SouthJersey said:
Yea.  A few albums have a full radio edit on Spotify.  The only one i regulrarly listen to is the 1st DMX album.  Can't find any Biggie, Nas, Jay-Z Wu-Tang that's radio version though. 
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maybe try apple music?  otherwise, you may have to create your own playlist.

side note the jazzy jeff and mick boogie summertime mixes are really good mixes that are 95% clean. 

 
SouthJersey said:
Is there some sort of easy way on Spotify to find the radio edit version of albums?  Would like a way to listen to rap when my kids are in the car but  at a minimum all the N-words are bleeped out.
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Not really answering your question but Ugly Duckling is a group I routinely play with kids in the car.  Early 2000s west coast vibe so probably not the style you're looking for but they don't curse and kids often vibe to it:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ao47UN48mo&list=OLAK5uy_l79IPhZEEcVfX8AfKdhKjGs90SvZyCS-0&index=2

 
Is there a thought to allowing your kids to just listen to music in its given form as original "art". My dad was a big music fan and put zero limits on what I listened to. I think the Chronic came out when I was 11 and knew every word to it but I still never used foul language around my folks and knew that white people were not allowed to us the n word. Occasionally, I would say some sort of sexual innuendo that was in a song and I had no clue what I meant. usually my parents used it as a teachable moment for what it meant and why it was wrong to repeat. 

I'm older now (almost 40) but don't have children but feel like I'd be super liberal w what my kids can hear

I would love to get some feedback from parents who are still fans of explicit rap music. Just out of curiosity, nothing more. 

 
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AndrewClark said:
Is there a thought to allowing your kids to just listen to music in its given form as original "art". My dad was a big music fan and put zero limits on what I listened to. I think the Chronic came out when I was 11 and knew every word to it but I still never used foul language around my folks and knew that white people were not allowed to us the n word. Occasionally, I would say some sort of sexual innuendo that was in a song and I had no clue what I meant. usually my parents used it as a teachable moment for what it meant and why it was wrong to repeat. 

I'm older now (almost 40) but don't have children but feel like I'd be super liberal w what my kids can here. 

I would love to get some feedback from parents who are still fans of explicit rap music. Just out of curiosity, nothing more. 
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My son is 3 so at this time its a no from me.  Kid will repeat anything!!   But when hes old enough that i can talk to him about when its appropriate to use certain words and such then i have no issue with him listening to explicit songs.  At 11 he will hear it one way or another so i would rather know that he is and knows its not appropriate to use certain words or knows there is a time and place for when you can use them.  

 
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No hyperbole but the new 21 Savage album is one of the best produced rap albums I've heard in many years. 
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You mean the voice narrative overdubs? I thought "a lot." was great but that was due to J. Cole's guest appearance. Made it listenable. 

This guy sounds like he's worried we're gonna forget his name or check our phones for other things. He constantly reminds us who we're listening to and that he's straight up.

21. 21.

Straight Up.

21. 21.

Straight up.

#####.

#####.

#####. 

 
AndrewClark said:
Is there a thought to allowing your kids to just listen to music in its given form as original "art". My dad was a big music fan and put zero limits on what I listened to. I think the Chronic came out when I was 11 and knew every word to it but I still never used foul language around my folks and knew that white people were not allowed to us the n word. Occasionally, I would say some sort of sexual innuendo that was in a song and I had no clue what I meant. usually my parents used it as a teachable moment for what it meant and why it was wrong to repeat. 

I'm older now (almost 40) but don't have children but feel like I'd be super liberal w what my kids can hear

I would love to get some feedback from parents who are still fans of explicit rap music. Just out of curiosity, nothing more. 
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My kids are too young (6 &4) to be hearing the N word. They like music and like to sing along, I don't want them saying or thinking it's ever ok to say that. 

 
Major said:
Not really answering your question but Ugly Duckling is a group I routinely play with kids in the car.  Early 2000s west coast vibe so probably not the style you're looking for but they don't curse and kids often vibe to it:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ao47UN48mo&list=OLAK5uy_l79IPhZEEcVfX8AfKdhKjGs90SvZyCS-0&index=2
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Dizz, Andy and Rodney (Young Einstein!) are the homies.  Wish they'd get back together.  Peep Coop's solo joint he put out a few years ago.  

 
rockaction said:
You mean the voice narrative overdubs? I thought "a lot." was great but that was due to J. Cole's guest appearance. Made it listenable. 

This guy sounds like he's worried we're gonna forget his name or check our phones for other things. He constantly reminds us who we're listening to and that he's straight up.

21. 21.

Straight Up.

21. 21.

Straight up.

#####.

#####.

#####. 
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I don't even think we disagree much. I told my buddy that it's hard to get 21 Savage to sound good which is why I specifically said that I thought it was one of the better produced albums I've heard in many years. I do stand by that but appreciate your difference if opinion. 

I don't even know who produced but I found all the beats super enjoyable. 

 
AndrewClark said:
I don't even know who produced but I found all the beats super enjoyable. 
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Yeah, I don't think we disagree that much at all. I think the track "Runnin" is wonderfully produced. I love the vocal lick and the scratchy vinyl intro.

Definitely spooky trap beats, though. No boom-bap being had here.

eta* Plus, it's all good. I gave it a listen because of you. Listened to it in the car last night while driving at night (the real test of whether that beat can ride) and it sounded really good. 

 
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rockaction said:
Yeah, I don't think we disagree that much at all. I think the track "Runnin" is wonderfully produced. I love the vocal lick and the scratchy vinyl intro.

Definitely spooky trap beats, though. No boom-bap being had here.

eta* Plus, it's all good. I gave it a listen because of you. Listened to it in the car last night while driving at night (the real test of whether that beat can ride) and it sounded really good. 
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Awesome man! Believe me I'm not a big 21 guy but I just found it super easy on the ears and my opinion doesn't mean much but I appreciate I got someone to give him a 2nd chance. 

All the best amigo. 

(I'm unemployed and have nothing to do but listen to a lot of this crap so you guys don't have to. Not all heroes wear capes. I'm almost a 40 year old man and have to wade through so much crap before I feel OK posting it here for my friends) 

Eta* at night in the car is literally the true test of rap music. You're f'n spot on about that. 

 
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I also appreciate that this thread, for a bunch of old dudes doesn't gatekeep my takes on new rap. I know a lot of is bad, I know a lot of it is not what we're used to growing up, but I've never got the :lmao: here for suggesting or putting forth a song or two from the newer era. It's nice to have a home here. 

 
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AndrewClark said:
Awesome man! Believe me I'm not a big 21 guy but I just found it super easy on the ears and my opinion doesn't mean much but I appreciate I got someone to give him a 2nd chance. 

All the best amigo.
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No sweat. Same in return. I love getting recommendations for new stuff as recognizing true talent in the hip hop/rap world today is not my strength, though I try through my curmudgeon spectrum to remain open-minded. It can't be that there's no good new stuff, after all. And I loved the song "a lot" so I figured I'd give an album-length treatment a chance. I figure if 21 has got that kind of ear for beats, maybe the beats would be consistently good on his album, and then to hear somebody else comment on it gave me pause and encouraged me to listen.   

 
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PinkydaPimp said:
My son is 3 so at this time its a no from me.  Kid will repeat anything!!   But when hes old enough that i can talk to him about when its appropriate to use certain words and such then i have no issue with him listening to explicit songs.  At 11 he will hear it one way or another so i would rather know that he is and knows its not appropriate to use certain words or knows there is a time and place for when you can use them.  
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Perfect answer. Thanks @PinkydaPimp

 
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Man JID is in a league of his own right now.  Definitely my favorite artist right now.  Every verse fire!
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JID, upon first blush, really reminded me of Lil' Wayne. Then he didn't, but there is an influence, I think. I personally thought the first verse from the other dude was riveting.

 
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Not new (2 years old) but knew to me and I loved it. I admittedly hadn't followed Nipsey Hussle much... 

Last Time I Checc'd by Nipsey and YG

https://youtu.be/QM9xgHibvzM

BTW is YG a Blood? Based on the video it seems it. I know YG is on quite a few of Nipseys songs and was curious if that was the selling point for them as a duo? Nipsey a Crip and YG a blood? 

 
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