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Abused Russian Troops Relocated After Leaking Beatings by Own Allies

The Russian troops, who were trained in the Novosibirsk region of Russia, began fighting at the front in Ukraine in December, according to Novaya Gazeta. But come February, the militia in the DPR began beating them, troops said in a video message shared with Russian news outlets and posted to Telegram.

“On February 4, the military from the DPR arrived. They fired at us with machine guns,” said the Russian troops, who came from Tuva, a region in southern Siberia. “The military police came and beat us.”
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Phil Elliott said:
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Wagner finding challenges maintaining recruitment levels from Prisons:


A good Twitter thread
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Wagner group claims to have stopped recruiting
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Wagner made a terrible recruiting video targeting American "Patriots" (right wingers) to join Wagner

Hackers subsequently hit Wagner with a DDOS attack (****loads of traffic) which Wagner comically is now interpreting as 10 Million Americans want to join up. :lol:

What a joke these clowns are. They're also recruiting in Serbia and South Africa.
 
Russian defeat in Vuhledar / Wuhledar is pretty staggering, and May foreshadow the challenges Russia may face with these green conscripts.

Cliff notes from my understanding / portions clipped from other discussion:

After initial assault an breaking up early Ukrainian defences by 155th, there should have been an immediate follow up with other units to reinforce the flanks and secure the gains.

Apparently commanders of those units (mech infantry, about 70% of mobilized men) reported full readiness of those units, when in reality they were still in preparation phase. They supposedly did that to avoid anger of their superiors.
So when the assault started, 155th went forward, but units of 41th army didn't follow. This resulted in 155th getting overwhelmed and trapped with losses of 100+ people.

The following days mobik units noticed that the field wasn't fully demined (Ukrainians correctly focused fire on engineering vehicles) and that only a narow path was safe. So they made a column. That of course was what Ukrainians wanted.

Ukraine then correctly started to shoot the front and back vehicles. When the column was blocked, some vehicles tried to move forward, avoiding fresh wrecks. Some succeeded, others exploded on mines. That caused the lower level commanders to order retreat.

Veterans tried to save equipment, mobiks just opened hatches and ran. That made the retreat of 155th difficult as there was no safe passage at that place. They lost two tanks trying to find safe passage, but they were able to finally get away.

Total loses of this assault are staggering.

Russians are estimating that at least a few dozens of armored vehicles can be repaired, however mobiks left the hatches open and Ukrainians dropped a grenade or two to each of them.

Approximation is over a HUNDRED Russian vehicles were lost in this operation.
Loses on Ukrainian side (Russian assessment) are assessed to be in area of 200 KIA.

Russians are now at the stage of looking for scapegoats responsible for this failure, so we can start to assume the operation failed and Vuhledar will get some breathing space.
 
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Putin approaching North Korean levels of comedy with this propaganda:

"Moscow saying some units are returning to their bases, Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said: "15 February, 2022, will go down in history as the day Western war propaganda failed.

"Humiliated and destroyed without a single shot fired.""
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Apparently Putin now claiming "we were just training", and the west has been "humiliated & destroyed" in historic fashion for thinking they were going to attack 😂

https://news.sky.com/story/russia-u...s-failed-without-a-single-shot-fired-12542524

Kim Jong Un is Impressed 😂
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Remember that time about a year ago when Putin "Humiliated & Destroyed" the west by Bluffing us and making us think they were going to invade Ukraine?

Haha! Stupid worthless Western Intelligence!
 
Trouble in Paradise:

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1/ Wagner Group head Yevgeny Prigozhin, Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov and recently demoted General Sergey Surovikin have been defeated in a bid to push out Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu, according to a prominent Russian dissident.
 
Russia reportedly draining massive Kakhova reservoir posing risk to farming, drinking water, and nuclear plant cooling.



"At stake is drinking water for hundreds of thousands of residents, irrigation for nearly half-a-million acres of farmland, and the cooling system at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant. Late last week, the International Atomic Energy Agency said it was aware of the potential risk posed by dropping water levels at the reservoir.

"Even though the decreased water level does not pose an immediate threat to nuclear safety and security, it may become a source of concern if it is allowed to continue," the IAEA's director General Rafael M. Grossi said in a statement."
 
More new Tech:

RAAM 155mm Howitzer fired anti-tank cluster mines

Was a key (and very lethal) component of the huge L for Russia in Vuhledar this week. Basically one shot scatters a cluster of Nine anti-tank mines that bury into the ground a little bit (anti-detection).

You basically target and drop a minefield directly on and around your target,

Brilliant really.


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Strange world when people from all over are trying to help people from Turkey and Syria who are trapped in rubble from a natural disaster without food and shelter, while Russia is firing missile after missile into Ukraine killing and trapping civilians in rubble and leaving them without food and shelter.
 
Da Guru said:
Strange world when people from all over are trying to help people from Turkey and Syria who are trapped in rubble from a natural disaster without food and shelter, while Russia is firing missile after missile into Ukraine killing and trapping civilians in rubble and leaving them without food and shelter.
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Very ****in well said
 
Looks like Putin is tamping down any good mentions of the Wagner Group.

February Kremlin directive to propagandists: - General #Surovikin to be mentioned only in a neutral manner
- #WagnerPMC and #Prigozhin may not be mentioned when discussing combat operations.
- Do not cite Prigozhin's statements related to the war in #Ukraine️.
- Do not mention prisoner recruitment and prisoner participation in the war.
- Wagner mercenaries & recruited convicts to be referred to as generic "assault squad volunteers" going forward.
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If you want a moment to laugh, cheer, and clap here you go. It doesn't change the war but is heartening.
Russians defiantly shout '**** the war' at concert in St Petersburg
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