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[DoctorDetroit]

WK DATE OPPONENT TIME (ET) TV TICKETS LOCATION1 Sun, Sep 7 @ Buffalo 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Ralph Wilson Stadium2 Sun, Sep 14 San Francisco 4:05 PM FOX Tickets Qwest Field3 Sun, Sep 21 St. Louis 4:05 PM FOX Tickets Qwest Field4 BYE WEEK5 Sun, Oct 5 @ NY Giants 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Giants Stadium6 Sun, Oct 12 Green Bay 4:15 PM FOX Tickets Qwest Field7 Sun, Oct 19 @ Tampa Bay 8:15 PM NBC Tickets Raymond James Stadium8 Sun, Oct 26 @ San Francisco 4:15 PM FOX Tickets Monster Park9 Sun, Nov 2 Philadelphia 4:15 PM FOX Tickets Qwest Field10 Sun, Nov 9 @ Miami 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Dolphin Stadium11 Sun, Nov 16 Arizona 4:05 PM FOX Tickets Qwest Field12 Sun, Nov 23 Washington 4:15 PM FOX Tickets Qwest Field13 Thu, Nov 27 @ Dallas 4:15 PM FOX Tickets Texas Stadium14 Sun, Dec 7 New England 8:15 PM NBC Tickets Qwest Field15 Sun, Dec 14 @ St. Louis 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Edward Jones Dome16 Sun, Dec 21 NY Jets 4:05 PM CBS Tickets Qwest Field17 Sun, Dec 28 @ Arizona 4:15 PM FOX Tickets U of Phoenix Stadium2007Regular Season Schedule

Sept. 9 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1:00 p.m. W 20-6

Sept. 16 at Arizona Cardinals 1:00 p.m. L 20-23

Sept. 23 Cincinnati Bengals 1:00 p.m. W 24-21

Sept. 30 at San Francisco 49ers 1:00 p.m. W 23-3

Oct. 7 at Pittsburgh Steelers 10:00 a.m. L 0-21

Oct. 14 New Orleans Saints 5:00 p.m. L 17-28

Oct. 21 St. Louis Rams 1:00 p.m. W 33-6

Oct. 28 Bye Week

Nov. 4 at Cleveland Browns 1:00 p.m. L30-33

Nov. 12 San Francisco 49ers 5:30 p.m. W24-0

Nov. 18 Chicago Bears 5:00 p.m.* W 30-23

Nov. 25 at St. Louis 10:00 a.m.* W 24-19

Dec. 2 at Philadelphia Eagles 10:00 a.m.* W 28-24

Dec. 9 Arizona Cardinals 1:00 p.m.* W 42-21

Dec. 16 at Carolina Panthers 10:00 a.m.* L 10-13

Dec. 23 Baltimore Ravens 1:00 p.m.* W 27-6

Dec. 30 at Atlanta Falcons 10:00 a.m.* L 41-44

Jan. 5 Washington Redskins 1:30 p.m.

Well we don't have a whole bunch of Seahawks fans here but we have some knowledgeable fans of the other teams who track the off-season very closely.

Here is a list of the updated FA comings and goings:

NEW SEAHAWKS:

DE Patrick Kerney/Falcons

S Brian Russell/Browns

S Deon Grant/Jaguars

DE Brandon Green/Rams

TE Marcus Pollard/Lions

Seahawks also re-signed Engram, Gray, Womack, Heller, and franchised Josh Brown.

Goings:

S Ken Hamlin/Cowboys

LB DD Lewis/Broncos

DE Joe Tafoya/Cards

TE Jeremy Stevens/Bucs

DRAFT PICKS:

2 55 Wilson, Josh CB 5-9 188 Maryland

3 85 Mebane, Brandon DT 6-1 305 California

4 120 Atkins, Baraka DE 6-4 278 Miami (Fla.)

4 124 Wrotto, Mansfield G 6-3 316 Georgia Tech

5 161 Herring, Will OLB 6-2 229 Auburn

6 197 Taylor, Courtney WR 6-1 209 Auburn

6 210 Kent, Jordan WR 6-3 209 Oregon

7 232 Vallos, Steve OT 6-2 297 Wake Forest

Undrafted Players Signed:

Patrick Ghee, S, W. Forest

Joe Newton, TE, Oregon State

Nu'u Tafisi, DE, Cal

C.J. Wallace, S, Washington

Kenny James, RB, Washington

Cameron Jensen, LB, B.Y.U.

Nick Jones, OC, Georgia

Tim Mixon, DB, Cal-Berkely

Joe Fernandez, WR, Fresno State

Logan Payne, WR, Minnesota

Keep us updated.

 

[Balco]

I think as tough as it might be, they need to let Hutchinson walk. Throwing a ton of $$$ at an interior player is not a smart move, IMO, especially since there are more important people to sign. If need be, CHris Spencer, last years # 1, can play guard, or Floyd "pork Chop" WOmack can step in. I don't really think they need to address the guard position on the first day of the draft.

Rocky Bernard really impressed me during the playoffs, and should definitely be resigned, assuming he doesn't price himself out of the Seahawks range.

Alexander needs to be resigned, although I think he is crazy if he wants an LT2 type deal. Alexander is the best rb in the NFL, but he is also 29. I think Mack Strong stays as well, as long as Alexander is resigned.

Jurevicious is going to be offered a better deal from another team, he is a solid wide receiver, and will be offered a more prominent role somewhere else.

 

[DoctorDetroit]

I think as tough as it might be, they need to let Hutchinson walk. Throwing a ton of $$$ at an interior player is not a smart move, IMO, especially since there are more important people to sign. If need be, CHris Spencer, last years # 1, can play guard, or Floyd "pork Chop" WOmack can step in. I don't really think they need to address the guard position on the first day of the draft.

Rocky Bernard really impressed me during the playoffs, and should definitely be resigned, assuming he doesn't price himself out of the Seahawks range.

Alexander needs to be resigned, although I think he is crazy if he wants an LT2 type deal. Alexander is the best rb in the NFL, but he is also 29. I think Mack Strong stays as well, as long as Alexander is resigned.

Jurevicious is going to be offered a better deal from another team, he is a solid wide receiver, and will be offered a more prominent role somewhere else.

I agree with everything but the Hutchinson comment. Dallas won their titles because they may have had the best offensive line in the history of the NFL. Right now Jones is the best tackle, and Hutchinson is the best guard in the NFL, Tobeck and Gray are underrated, and Locklear is coming along well. This line has the potential to be among the best ever over the next three to five years. Womack might be the best #6 lineman in the league but he had a chance to beat out Locklear and Gray and it didn't happen. I'd rather keep Hutchinson than Alexander if it came right down to it because I think Alexander is a little easier to replace. Plus paying a premium for an NFL guard compared to paying the premium for almost any other position lends itself to actually being a deal. I think they should try and lock him up long-term even though they would not use the franchise tag for anyone else. I think a lot of it will depend on what they have to pay for Alexander and in that case, they may be better off throwing the franchise tag on him.

But Hutchinson stays regardless. On Bernard, they won't pay a lot to keep him. Marcus Tubbs is going to start there next year anyway and you can always find good backup value in the draft. I'd love to see Bernard back, but I think it's less than a 50/50 proposition.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

I think as tough as it might be, they need to let Hutchinson walk. Throwing a ton of $$$ at an interior player is not a smart move, IMO, especially since there are more important people to sign. If need be, CHris Spencer, last years # 1, can play guard, or Floyd "pork Chop" WOmack can step in. I don't really think they need to address the guard position on the first day of the draft.

Keep dreaming.They are not just gonna waste their franchise tag and let Hutch walk. And in case you didn't know, a guard top dollar is not a huge amount of money compared to the top money at other positions. Hutch is a perennial all-pro and the O-line continuity is what makes the Seahawks offense click.

Hutch is top priority by a large margin.

 

[tarheel23]

If the rehab progress of Hamlin gets shaky, I think Manual is in that second tier of guys to get signed, after the tier of SA and Hutch. I would include Joe J in that second tier as well.

I think Hutch is first priority and then SA.

 

[DoctorDetroit]

If the rehab progress of Hamlin gets shaky, I think Manual is in that second tier of guys to get signed, after the tier of SA and Hutch. I would include Joe J in that second tier as well.

I think Hutch is first priority and then SA.

Agreed. I do think they can find a better fit at FS than Manual but he is a good backup. I also heard Jordan Babineaux may be moved to safety next year and it is usually a position you can find some quality in FA. But Hamlin is the key and I'd rather have him back for sure. We can only hope. Here is the latest I've seen:

Seahawks | Hamlin intends to return for 2006 season

Wed, 1 Feb 2006 20:35:33 -0800

The Associated Press reports Seattle Seahawks FS Ken Hamlin (head) intends to play the 2006 season, according to an e-mail from his agent to the Associated Press. His agent wrote, "So far, his medical progress has been good. It's obviously too early to know for certain whether he'll play next year, but at this point, he intends to play and is giving every indication that he will play."

 

[DoctorDetroit]

Alexander just told ESPN it would be "interesting" to test the market. I think he probably will do that but Steve Smith recruiting him to Carolina means nothing if they don't have the to give him. This does create problems for Seattle and Maurice Morris although I'm not sure at all if he's an everydown back.

 

[Balco]

I think as tough as it might be, they need to let Hutchinson walk.  Throwing a ton of $$$ at an interior player is not a smart move, IMO, especially since there are more important people to sign.  If need be, CHris Spencer, last years # 1, can play guard, or Floyd "pork Chop" WOmack can step in.  I don't really think they need to address the guard position on the first day of the draft.

Keep dreaming.They are not just gonna waste their franchise tag and let Hutch walk. And in case you didn't know, a guard top dollar is not a huge amount of money compared to the top money at other positions. Hutch is a perennial all-pro and the O-line continuity is what makes the Seahawks offense click.

Hutch is top priority by a large margin.

As a Packer fan, believe me, that's what I though too. Then the Cowboys threw a $9,000,000 signing bonus at a 32 year old with very bad knees (Marco Rivera), and Carolina gave Mike Wahle (a stud, no doubt) $8,000,000 bonus (plus a $3.5 mil roster bonus this year). That is a lot of money to throw at guards, no matter how good. The Pack suffered in the short term, but I think that had a lot to do with the replacements, who were extremely bad.I am not saying that spending big $$$ on an interior player is a terrible idea, but it has to fit with the salaries you are paying the rest of the team. I actually want the Packers to spend $$$ on LaCharles Bentley (with Flanagan likely gone, Bentley can play center and guard, vesatility is a major plus, and he is a couple years younger than Hutch).

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

I think they need to address the cornerback. Dyson has proven to be very injury prone, and Herndon was not impressive as his replacement.

I'd really like to see them solidify the D. The offense is going to put up enough points to win plenty of games next year, whether it's SA or someone else in the backfield. Lock up Hutchinson, get SA signed to a reasonable contract or let him go. I don't want to see them break the bank for a 29 year old RB to the detriment of the defense.

 

[tarheel23]

49ers | Reinfeldt no longer in the running

Tue, 14 Feb 2006 06:10:57 -0800

Kevin Lynch, of the San Francisco Chronicle, reports Seattle Seahawks vice president of football administration Mike Reinfeldt has pulled himself out of the running to join the San Francisco 49ers front office. The Seahawks would not give a reason and Reinfeldt declined to address the issue. The team held out hope over the weekend that Reinfeldt would take the job.

Looks like Reinfeldt is not going to the Niners. Lets hope he stays with the Seahawks. Around the league, he is an "expert" on managing the salary cap. Was right in the middle of the Jones, Hasselbeck, and Alexander signings last year.

 

[DoctorDetroit]

49ers | Reinfeldt no longer in the running

Tue, 14 Feb 2006 06:10:57 -0800

Kevin Lynch, of the San Francisco Chronicle, reports Seattle Seahawks vice president of football administration Mike Reinfeldt has pulled himself out of the running to join the San Francisco 49ers front office. The Seahawks would not give a reason and Reinfeldt declined to address the issue. The team held out hope over the weekend that Reinfeldt would take the job.

Looks like Reinfeldt is not going to the Niners. Lets hope he stays with the Seahawks. Around the league, he is an "expert" on managing the salary cap. Was right in the middle of the Jones, Hasselbeck, and Alexander signings last year.

Good news there. I just read the Sporting News article on Holmgren and had no idea the issues with Whitsitt. I can believe it, just didn't think it got that bad.

 

[seahawk 17]

I think Hutch is an important player to keep around. I would love to see Alexander go to another team, and do jack crap. I really think alot of his success is because of the O-line.

I think Seattle owes it to Strong to let him finish his career in Seattle. I would love them to keep JJ.

I think we should keep as many of the defensive players together as possible, as they are forming a nice defense finally.

I can't wait to see what Weaver can do at FB.

Other than that I am pretty tired of Alexander, and would like someone with some heart and fire run the ball.

 

[DoctorDetroit]

I think Hutch is an important player to keep around. I would love to see Alexander go to another team, and do jack crap. I really think alot of his success is because of the O-line.

I think Seattle owes it to Strong to let him finish his career in Seattle. I would love them to keep JJ.

I think we should keep as many of the defensive players together as possible, as they are forming a nice defense finally.

I can't wait to see what Weaver can do at FB.

Other than that I am pretty tired of Alexander, and would like someone with some heart and fire run the ball.

I am mixed on Alexander. He is a good guy to have around and he fits the system but I wouldn't be crused if he left and we got a capable replacement. Trading up six of seven spots to get Maroney and letting Alexander go to me is not a crazy thought. How much cost/benefit/reward does that move incur? It'll be interesting and I'm sure most of the talk in this thread will involve Alexander and the RB situation.

 

[DoctorDetroit]

True Hawks fans only please

:X

One more NFL-E "moment" to savor

 

[gump]

I am mixed on Alexander. He is a good guy to have around and he fits the system but I wouldn't be crused if he left and we got a capable replacement. Trading up six of seven spots to get Maroney and letting Alexander go to me is not a crazy thought. How much cost/benefit/reward does that move incur?

RE SA, everyone loves to say he is almost 29 and nearing the downturn of his career. I read an interesting stat on another board:

The average career length of a HOF RB is 11.2 years.

If SA has an 11-year career, that gives him another 5 years. If he stays in Seattle and the offense is basically the same, there is no reason not to expect similiar numbers for a couple more years and a HOF induction.

How valuable is that production for another 3-4 years, and how big of a risk is it to give that up for the potential of an unproven rookie?

 

[tarheel23]

I am mixed on Alexander.  He is a good guy to have around and he fits the system but I wouldn't be crused if he left and we got a capable replacement.  Trading up six of seven spots to get Maroney and letting Alexander go to me is not a crazy thought.  How much cost/benefit/reward does that move incur?

RE SA, everyone loves to say he is almost 29 and nearing the downturn of his career. I read an interesting stat on another board:

The average career length of a HOF RB is 11.2 years.

If SA has an 11-year career, that gives him another 5 years. If he stays in Seattle and the offense is basically the same, there is no reason not to expect similiar numbers for a couple more years and a HOF induction.

How valuable is that production for another 3-4 years, and how big of a risk is it to give that up for the potential of an unproven rookie?

SA is an interesting topic for Seahawk fans. I would say Hawk fans are split down the middle as far as bringing him back.Tiki and Dunn had good years this year and they are both older than 30. Seattle has a better offensive line. I think SA has 3 good years left. I would re-sign him.

 

[Portis 26]

If SA has an 11-year career, that gives him another 5 years. If he stays in Seattle and the offense is basically the same, there is no reason not to expect similiar numbers for a couple more years and a HOF induction.How valuable is that production for another 3-4 years, and how big of a risk is it to give that up for the potential of an unproven rookie?

I think five years is a stretch, but there's no reason not to expect him to put up great numbers for 2-3 years. The 31-32 age is when RBs seem to suddenly hit a wall.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

I am mixed on Alexander. He is a good guy to have around and he fits the system but I wouldn't be crused if he left and we got a capable replacement. Trading up six of seven spots to get Maroney and letting Alexander go to me is not a crazy thought. How much cost/benefit/reward does that move incur?

RE SA, everyone loves to say he is almost 29 and nearing the downturn of his career. I read an interesting stat on another board:

The average career length of a HOF RB is 11.2 years.

If SA has an 11-year career, that gives him another 5 years. If he stays in Seattle and the offense is basically the same, there is no reason not to expect similiar numbers for a couple more years and a HOF induction.

How valuable is that production for another 3-4 years, and how big of a risk is it to give that up for the potential of an unproven rookie?

SA is an interesting topic for Seahawk fans. I would say Hawk fans are split down the middle as far as bringing him back.Tiki and Dunn had good years this year and they are both older than 30. Seattle has a better offensive line. I think SA has 3 good years left. I would re-sign him.

My beef isn't as much with his age but moreso his cap number.The RB position is the easiest position to replace in the NFL , as it is not a tough position to lean and there is a large supply.

Alexander is a good RB, no doubt, but you have to look at the replacement cost and the drop in production. Does it make sense to spend mucho money on a position that is in supply of good quality RBs?

What is better??

-Alexander rushing for 1700 yards with a 5 million cap number?

-Next tier of RB rushing for 1500 yards with a 3 million cap number?

-A rookie/cheap option rushing for 1300 yards with a 2 million cap number?

Whoever plays behind the Seattle O-line will be productive, just because they are that good (4 Pro Bowler blockers, 3 of which are All-Pros).

I just don't know if the extra production from Alexander compared to the next drop off is worth the extra cap room. I realize that it may screw with continuity, but on the other hand, a RB could be brought in who can actually block. I am indifferent on the matter, as both have pros and cons, but I will be mighty angry if the Hawks cave and pay him too much (which I can't see happening).

My guess is that Alexander will go to FA and will see that the offers from other clubs are similar to Seattle's. Alexander will let the Hawks match any offer, as he wouldn't want to leave this system that makes him a god. The Hawks will basically let the market do the negotiating for them and slap Alexander in the face about how much he will get.

 

[Renegades of Funk]

Didn't get to see too many Seattle games, but the ones I did I was impressed with Leroy Hill. Curious what the homers thought about him? I would think he locked up the WLB job for next year.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Didn't get to see too many Seattle games, but the ones I did I was impressed with Leroy Hill. Curious what the homers thought about him? I would think he locked up the WLB job for next year.

I wouldn't say he has it locked up.The main reason he was put into the starting lineup is because Sharper got hurt and the shifted the LBs around.

With a healthy Sharper and DD back to his original side, it is not a lock.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Jay Glazer / FOXSports.comThe Seahawks actually sent Alexander's representatives another contract proposalthe week after the regular season ended both Seahawks president Tim Ruskell andhis agent Jim Steiner confirmed to FOXSports.com.The deal was similar in dollars to the original figures offered midway throughthis season but was structured differently after the regular season ended. Still, theSeahawks have continued to try to massage this deal home, even though the moneyhadn't changed enough for Alexander to sign on the dotted line or for his reps togive it serious consideration.The Seahawks' current offer coughs up $21 million over the first three years — thetrue judging time frame of any deal. Alexander's representatives have stated all alongthat they didn't want to be paid more than Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson,who makes about $25 million over the first three. However, in the crazy age of salarycap economics it's difficult to decipher exactly how much less or more Alexander'sasking price may be compared to Tomlinson's.

Alexander is turning away 21 million over the first three years. Get real Shaun.

 

[DoctorDetroit]

Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com

The Seahawks actually sent Alexander's representatives another contract proposal

the week after the regular season ended both Seahawks president Tim Ruskell and

his agent Jim Steiner confirmed to FOXSports.com.

The deal was similar in dollars to the original figures offered midway through

this season but was structured differently after the regular season ended. Still, the

Seahawks have continued to try to massage this deal home, even though the money

hadn't changed enough for Alexander to sign on the dotted line or for his reps to

give it serious consideration.

The Seahawks' current offer coughs up $21 million over the first three years — the

true judging time frame of any deal. Alexander's representatives have stated all along

that they didn't want to be paid more than Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson,

who makes about $25 million over the first three. However, in the crazy age of salary

cap economics it's difficult to decipher exactly how much less or more Alexander's

asking price may be compared to Tomlinson's.

Alexander is turning away 21 million over the first three years. Get real Shaun.

I think he could end up regretting this. If the CBA is worked then this could be a decent number but as it stands this is a very fair offer. The Panthers will likely not offer a whole lot more if anything, and the Cards prefer Edge. The Vikings are said to have interest and they do have cap space, but I think they will go another direction. If the Seahawks let him fly he may end up back in Seattle getting less than this. When will they learn from the Latrell Sprewells of sports?

What is better??

-Alexander rushing for 1700 yards with a 5 million cap number?

-Next tier of RB rushing for 1500 yards with a 3 million cap number?

-A rookie/cheap option rushing for 1300 yards with a 2 million cap number?

Whoever plays behind the Seattle O-line will be productive, just because they are that good (4 Pro Bowler blockers, 3 of which are All-Pros).

I just don't know if the extra production from Alexander compared to the next drop off is worth the extra cap room. I realize that it may screw with continuity, but on the other hand, a RB could be brought in who can actually block. I am indifferent on the matter, as both have pros and cons, but I will be mighty angry if the Hawks cave and pay him too much (which I can't see happening).

Friday Frenzy hits the nail on the head here. I like Alexander a lot, I think he's a good guy to have on the team for the next few years, but there are other options for the Seahawks. If Shaun really was sincere about staying in Seattle he would have took this deal. Don't get me wrong, I'd probably test the market if I were him too but this is a good offer given the current league-wide situation with runningbacks.

 

[DoctorDetroit]

Didn't get to see too many Seattle games, but the ones I did I was impressed with Leroy Hill. Curious what the homers thought about him? I would think he locked up the WLB job for next year.

I thought with Tatupu getting all the attention Hill was overlooked. He played very well at times and is a great lateral defender in pursuit. I think he over plays gaps and wanders to the edges too often but he was a rookie so that is normal. Sharper will no doubt be back as the starter next year but Hill offers a spell player for both Sharper and Lewis on either side and he should be a starter in year three. Regardless the pick seems to be a very good one and with him as the #4 guy, the unit will be as strong as I've ever seen it.

For once the Seahawks don't have to address or worry about the linebackers in the offseason.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

KOMO TV reported that Shaun Alexander put up his house for sale.

 

[supermark_28]

TO put his house up for sale in NJ about early to mid October and is still hanging around w/ the Eagles.. man, i hope this is a ploy by SA and his agent, i need this guy to stay put

 

[Koya]

WTF are the seahawks? That's a silly name.

They a CFL team?

 

[MLBrandow]

Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com

The Seahawks actually sent Alexander's representatives another contract proposal

the week after the regular season ended both Seahawks president Tim Ruskell and

his agent Jim Steiner confirmed to FOXSports.com.

The deal was similar in dollars to the original figures offered midway through

this season but was structured differently after the regular season ended. Still, the

Seahawks have continued to try to massage this deal home, even though the money

hadn't changed enough for Alexander to sign on the dotted line or for his reps to

give it serious consideration.

The Seahawks' current offer coughs up $21 million over the first three years — the

true judging time frame of any deal. Alexander's representatives have stated all along

that they didn't want to be paid more than Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson,

who makes about $25 million over the first three. However, in the crazy age of salary

cap economics it's difficult to decipher exactly how much less or more Alexander's

asking price may be compared to Tomlinson's.

Alexander is turning away 21 million over the first three years. Get real Shaun.

It's mostly because he has told them repeatedly he is going to explore the market. They owe him the opportunity.

 

[DoctorDetroit]

WTF are the seahawks? That's a silly name.

They a CFL team?

I'll have them contact you immediately to get the name changed. I'm thinking Baconeers since many of the players and most of us fans enjoy that delicious pork product.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com

The Seahawks actually sent Alexander's representatives another contract proposal

the week after the regular season ended both Seahawks president Tim Ruskell and

his agent Jim Steiner confirmed to FOXSports.com.

The deal was similar in dollars to the original figures offered midway through

this season but was structured differently after the regular season ended. Still, the

Seahawks have continued to try to massage this deal home, even though the money

hadn't changed enough for Alexander to sign on the dotted line or for his reps to

give it serious consideration.

The Seahawks' current offer coughs up $21 million over the first three years — the

true judging time frame of any deal. Alexander's representatives have stated all along

that they didn't want to be paid more than Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson,

who makes about $25 million over the first three. However, in the crazy age of salary

cap economics it's difficult to decipher exactly how much less or more Alexander's

asking price may be compared to Tomlinson's.

Alexander is turning away 21 million over the first three years. Get real Shaun.

It's mostly because he has told them repeatedly he is going to explore the market. They owe him the opportunity.

First off, Alexander owes the Hawks just as much as the Hawks owe Alexander anything. Second, he hasn't told them he wants to explore the market, he just hasn't be satisfied with a dollar value yet and hence why he could go to market.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

I think as tough as it might be, they need to let Hutchinson walk.  Throwing a ton of $$$ at an interior player is not a smart move, IMO, especially since there are more important people to sign.  If need be, CHris Spencer, last years # 1, can play guard, or Floyd "pork Chop" WOmack can step in.  I don't really think they need to address the guard position on the first day of the draft.

Keep dreaming.They are not just gonna waste their franchise tag and let Hutch walk. And in case you didn't know, a guard top dollar is not a huge amount of money compared to the top money at other positions. Hutch is a perennial all-pro and the O-line continuity is what makes the Seahawks offense click.

Hutch is top priority by a large margin.

Apparently you didn't know. If I am reading Pastabelly's latest Tip Sheet correctly all O-linemen are grouped together for a Franchise Tag of $6.983 million per year. That is behind only QB, DE, and LB. FWIW...It will cost the Hawks nearly $1 million more to franchise Hutch than it would to franchise Alexander. Sounds like that is what they will do though, very interesting.

 

[ffchampb2b]

I think as tough as it might be, they need to let Hutchinson walk.  Throwing a ton of $$$ at an interior player is not a smart move, IMO, especially since there are more important people to sign.  If need be, CHris Spencer, last years # 1, can play guard, or Floyd "pork Chop" WOmack can step in.  I don't really think they need to address the guard position on the first day of the draft.

Keep dreaming.They are not just gonna waste their franchise tag and let Hutch walk. And in case you didn't know, a guard top dollar is not a huge amount of money compared to the top money at other positions. Hutch is a perennial all-pro and the O-line continuity is what makes the Seahawks offense click.

Hutch is top priority by a large margin.

Apparently you didn't know. If I am reading Pastabelly's latest Tip Sheet correctly all O-linemen are grouped together for a Franchise Tag of $6.983 million per year. That is behind only QB, DE, and LB. FWIW...It will cost the Hawks nearly $1 million more to franchise Hutch than it would to franchise Alexander. Sounds like that is what they will do though, very interesting.

doesn't really matter since they can't franchise alexander anyways. other than hutchinson, they have no one else of real value to use the tag on.

 

[DoctorDetroit]

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Hawks assistant's ordeal inspired NFL combine

By José Miguel Romero

MICHAEL CONROY / AP

Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren, right, chatting with Cowboys coach Bill Parcells in Indianapolis, is entering the last season of his eight-year deal.

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INDIANAPOLIS — The man who can claim substantial credit for the establishment of the NFL's annual scouting combine walked alone in a convention center lobby, stopping to say hello to some friends.

He seemed oblivious to the hubbub of activity around him: the stir from all of the reporters, the conversations between coaches and scouts from other NFL teams, the autograph-seekers running toward a player.

This is part of what happens now at the combine, of which Seahawks wide receivers coach Nolan Cromwell is one of the founders. In a roundabout sort of way.

It was Cromwell — with his travels to 13 cities to meet with NFL teams and prove that his injured knee would not affect his pro future — who served as the impetus for what is now one of the league's most important offseason events.

In 1977, Cromwell was an option quarterback out of Kansas who was high on many teams' draft boards because of his athletic ability. But he had a knee injury that concerned those teams, including the Seahawks, and was asked to go on a tour of NFL cities with his knee X-rays to show he would be able to play.

Cromwell flew from Seattle to Dallas for one of the last stops on his tour.

"Obviously, there had to be a better way to do it than that," said Gil Brandt, who was the Cowboys' director of player personnel at the time. "So that's kind of how it started."

The next year, the Seahawks, Cowboys, 49ers and Bills held a joint combine with interviews, physicals and workouts. That was the forerunner of today's event that features hundreds of draft prospects meeting with every NFL team in one location.

Cromwell ended up being drafted by the Los Angeles Rams as a defensive back and went to four Pro Bowls in his 11-year career. Today, his combine experience is helping the Seahawks evaluate potential draft picks.

"Gil has told me, 'You're the reason they started all this,' " Cromwell said.

Cromwell was a option QB? Wow. I guess I never thought of how the combine started but had to figure it was something of this sort.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Seahawks | Team actively trying to re-sign MorrisSun, 26 Feb 2006 06:43:36 -0800Sean Jensen, of the Pioneer Press, reports the Seattle Seahawks are actively trying to re-sign RB Maurice Morris. He will become an unrestricted free agent March 3.Cardinals | Team paying attention to MorrisSun, 26 Feb 2006 06:42:08 -0800Sean Jensen, of the Pioneer Press, reports soon-to-be free agent RB Maurice Morris (Seahawks) has caught the eye of the Arizona Cardinals. "I can't comment on players that haven't hit the market yet, but I will say that based on guys that are speculated to be free, it could be a buyer's market," said Rod Graves, the Cardinals' vice president of football operations. Asked if it is a good season to have a need at that position, Graves quickly and confidently said, "Yes it is."Vikings | Team paying attention to MorrisSun, 26 Feb 2006 06:37:38 -0800Sean Jensen, of the Pioneer Press, reports soon-to-be free agent RB Maurice Morris (Seahawks) has caught the eye of the Minnesota Vikings. Detroit Lions running backs coach Wilbert Montgomery said a marriage between Morris and Minnesota would appear to be an ideal match. "For the head coach in Minnesota, Maurice would be a No. 1 candidate because he's been in the West Coast system," said Montgomery. "You can plug him right in, and you can go out there tomorrow and start running plays." Morris fits the profile of the type of veteran free agent the Vikings' new "Triangle of Authority" would appear to be inclined to target. Vikings head coach Brad Childress acknowledged Friday, Feb. 24, that the team is thin in terms of numbers, and the Vikings are not assuming that RB Onterrio Smith, who is serving a one-year suspension, will be back with them in 2006.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

• Holmgren said he feels confident about the Seahawks' impending free-agency situation. He thinks the team will be able to re-sign safety Marquand Manuel, who proved valuable after Ken Hamlin was lost to season-ending injuries, and has told the recent recipient of the team's transition tag, left guard Steve Hutchinson, that "he's not going anywhere."

• Holmgren also thinks running back Shaun Alexander will stay with the Seahawks and said that the team wants to and is hopeful that it will re-sign Alexander.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seah..._combine26.html

 

[DoctorDetroit]

• Holmgren said he feels confident about the Seahawks' impending free-agency situation. He thinks the team will be able to re-sign safety Marquand Manuel, who proved valuable after Ken Hamlin was lost to season-ending injuries, and has told the recent recipient of the team's transition tag, left guard Steve Hutchinson, that "he's not going anywhere."

• Holmgren also thinks running back Shaun Alexander will stay with the Seahawks and said that the team wants to and is hopeful that it will re-sign Alexander.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seah..._combine26.html

Keep them coming.

 

[DoctorDetroit]

If the Seahawks are 21 million under the cap, and will shed Jamie Sharper's cap number as well (speculated; cap number of 5.5?) they are in good shape.

Hutchinson will be signed to a long-term deal which will likely cost them more this year than the 6.2 they would pay him under the transition designation but opens space in the coming years (a roster bonus in year four is the stumbling block from what I heard on SNR). If they sign Alexander as well there is still room to address concerns at safety and at WR and maybe even land a speed rusher in the draft. If they chose not to retain Alexander (IMO the Seahawks have the upper hand in negotiations) they will likely trade up in the first round a few spots for a RB and resign Morris. This would allow them to address depth at DL, WR, and find a starting FS (or you ink Manuel and hope Hamlin comes back).

I am interested to see what happens prior to March 17th with Hutchinson but it looks like we are in great shape for this year. With the current CBA issues, being in a good position this year is critical to success in 2006 in particular. If you look at the other teams in as good or better shape, only the Chargers, Vikings, and Jags are in as good of an organizational position looking forward this year and next (even if they play without a cap in 07 which I find highly unlikely). Makes you think this team can be good for a while given the core talent and the management of the team.

Me like-EEEEEEE.

EDIT: I guess they are not 21 under but only 9.5 under according to ESPN. I received the other data from an unreliable source and I apologize.

 

[tarheel23]

Rumors are that the next stop for Lawyer Milloy is the Seahawks. Played for the Huskies. That seems to be the connection.

 

[ChampBailey24]

WTF are the seahawks? That's a silly name.

They a CFL team?

Got anything against CFL?

 

[ImTheScientist]

Rumors are that the next stop for Lawyer Milloy is the Seahawks. Played for the Huskies. That seems to be the connection.

Unless he wants a backup role and to play for cheap I don't see the hawks wanting him............ Hamlin will be back.

 

[ChampBailey24]

I think they need to address the cornerback. Dyson has proven to be very injury prone, and Herndon was not impressive as his replacement.

I'd really like to see them solidify the D. The offense is going to put up enough points to win plenty of games next year, whether it's SA or someone else in the backfield. Lock up Hutchinson, get SA signed to a reasonable contract or let him go. I don't want to see them break the bank for a 29 year old RB to the detriment of the defense.

I disagree about the cornerback part. The seahawks have a great #1 CB in Marcus Trufant and Kelly Herndon is a good #2 CB. He'll probably never be a #1 but he's a solid #2.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Dyson, Sharper, Harden Released

By Doug Farrar

Seahawks.NET

Date: Mar 3, 2006

Apparently and unfortunately, five years and $17.5 million do not appear to be magic numbers when it comes to signing contracts with the Seattle Seahawks. Today, the team released two players who signed such contracts within days of each other last April.

Cornerback Andre Dyson and linebacker Jamie Sharper were brought in before the 2005 draft to help bolster Seattle’s defense, a unit which finished 26th in the NFL in 2004 and raised its overall ranking to 16th and a trip to Super Bowl XL in 2005. Both players contributed when healthy, but that caveat – “when healthy” – tells a great deal of the tale. The end of the story for both Dyson and Sharper was the cap savings gained by Seattle upon their release.

The Seahawks also released cornerback Michael Harden, a former NFL Europe standout and practice squad player who was active in the final four regular season games.

Like all NFL teams, the Seahawks are working to get their house in order before a Monday, 12:01 AM deadline that will find them with a salary cap of $94.5 million or somewhere near $10 million more, depending on the result of ongoing and extended negotiations.

Impact players like RB Shaun Alexander, DT Rocky Bernard and WR Joe Jurevicius will hit the market when free agency begins on Monday. Seattle may also have to outdo potential suitors for transition-tagged guard Steve Hutchinson. Although the Seahawks were several millions under the cap before these releases, they may need more, depending on their aspirations and the competitive bidding that will ensue.

According to “The Hawkstorian”, Seahawks.NET’s salary cap guru, the Dyson release will save the team $1.86 million – Dyson will be on the books for $2.4 million in 2006. The payroll advantage gained by Sharper’s release is a bit more complicated. More than one report has stated that Seattle will gain $2.5 million in cap room, but that’s based on a bear trap in Sharper’s contract – a 2007 roster bonus based on undisclosed playing time benchmarks. If Sharper did not meet the guidelines of that bonus, the cap gain would be $3.5 million. We will, of course, pass that information on when it has been confirmed. Depending on the status of that bonus, Sharper is on the books for either $1 or $2 million in 2005.

Harden’s cap gain is negligible, so the Seahawks have gained a best-case scenario windfall of approximately $5.5 million.

http://seahawks.scout.com/2/504708.html

 

[DoctorDetroit]

Dyson, Sharper, Harden Released

By Doug Farrar

Seahawks.NET

Date: Mar 3, 2006

Apparently and unfortunately, five years and $17.5 million do not appear to be magic numbers when it comes to signing contracts with the Seattle Seahawks. Today, the team released two players who signed such contracts within days of each other last April.

    Cornerback Andre Dyson and linebacker Jamie Sharper were brought in before the 2005 draft to help bolster Seattle’s defense, a unit which finished 26th in the NFL in 2004 and raised its overall ranking to 16th and a trip to Super Bowl XL in 2005. Both players contributed when healthy, but that caveat – “when healthy” – tells a great deal of the tale. The end of the story for both Dyson and Sharper was the cap savings gained by Seattle upon their release.

    The Seahawks also released cornerback Michael Harden, a former NFL Europe standout and practice squad player who was active in the final four regular season games.

    Like all NFL teams, the Seahawks are working to get their house in order before a Monday, 12:01 AM deadline that will find them with a salary cap of $94.5 million or somewhere near $10 million more, depending on the result of ongoing and extended negotiations.

    Impact players like RB Shaun Alexander, DT Rocky Bernard and WR Joe Jurevicius will hit the market when free agency begins on Monday. Seattle may also have to outdo potential suitors for transition-tagged guard Steve Hutchinson. Although the Seahawks were several millions under the cap before these releases, they may need more, depending on their aspirations and the competitive bidding that will ensue.

    According to “The Hawkstorian”, Seahawks.NET’s salary cap guru, the Dyson release will save the team $1.86 million – Dyson will be on the books for $2.4 million in 2006. The payroll advantage gained by Sharper’s release is a bit more complicated. More than one report has stated that Seattle will gain $2.5 million in cap room, but that’s based on a bear trap in Sharper’s contract – a 2007 roster bonus based on undisclosed playing time benchmarks. If Sharper did not meet the guidelines of that bonus, the cap gain would be $3.5 million. We will, of course, pass that information on when it has been confirmed. Depending on the status of that bonus, Sharper is on the books for either $1 or $2 million in 2005.

    Harden’s cap gain is negligible, so the Seahawks have gained a best-case scenario windfall of approximately $5.5 million.

http://seahawks.scout.com/2/504708.html

Thanks FF.I saw the Sharper cut coming and I'm sure they will be fine with the bonus situation given the amount of time he played.

Dyson had a good year but his injuries really hurt a banged up secondary and you can't help bu believe that he will continue along that path. With Trufant and Herndon starting, they can bring in a good vet as the nickel and continue to use Babineaux as he develops into a better player.

As far as the Milloy he is a Strong Safety and the Seahawks need a free safety. Does MIlloy have the speed to be a FS or does Boulware? Probably not. Boulware is the SS on the team so Milloy really doesn't have a place. I'm really not sure if Hamlin would matter either way in Milloy coming. I think they go get a safety in the draft regardless of Hamlin's health.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Seahawks, Alexander still working on dealJay Glazer / FOXSports.comThe Seahawks actually sent Alexander's representatives another contract proposalthe week after the regular season ended both Seahawks president Tim Ruskell andhis agent Jim Steiner confirmed to FOXSports.com.The deal was similar in dollars to the original figures offered midway throughthis season but was structured differently after the regular season ended. Still, theSeahawks have continued to try to massage this deal home, even though the moneyhadn't changed enough for Alexander to sign on the dotted line or for his reps togive it serious consideration.The Seahawks' current offer coughs up $21 million over the first three years — thetrue judging time frame of any deal. Alexander's representatives have stated all alongthat they didn't want to be paid more than Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson,who makes about $25 million over the first three. However, in the crazy age of salarycap economics it's difficult to decipher exactly how much less or more Alexander'sasking price may be compared to Tomlinson's.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Also Sunday, the Seahawks offered one-year, $712,000 tenders to their three restricted free agents. Quarterback Seneca Wallace, kicker Josh Brown and offensive lineman Wayne Hunter can entertain offers from other teams, but the Seahawks have the right to match any offer or receive draft-pick compensation (in the round that player was drafted) if the team does not match.

 

[tarheel23]

on the SA news.

 

[DoctorDetroit]

on the SA news.

We can put a check mark next to our #1A offseason priority with 1B being Hutchinson. As the free agent market evolves please post all the news you know of here so that our fellow Seahawk brothers can check in periodically.I'm pleased to just get the Alexander stuff out of the way and move to the next item of interest.

 

[mad sweeney]

on the SA news.

We can put a check mark next to our #1A offseason priority with 1B being Hutchinson. As the free agent market evolves please post all the news you know of here so that our fellow Seahawk brothers can check in periodically.I'm pleased to just get the Alexander stuff out of the way and move to the next item of interest.

I agree, but I would put Hutch at 1a and SA at b. They juggled big FAs last year and came up roses so I expect now that SA's done with they can lock in Hutch. And with Ruskell in there I expect that was the plan all along. I'm a little bit confused though. Is Reinfeldt still working with the team? I thought he moved on but I also remember a little something about him staying.

 

[tarheel23]

  on the SA news.

We can put a check mark next to our #1A offseason priority with 1B being Hutchinson. As the free agent market evolves please post all the news you know of here so that our fellow Seahawk brothers can check in periodically.I'm pleased to just get the Alexander stuff out of the way and move to the next item of interest.

I agree, but I would put Hutch at 1a and SA at b. They juggled big FAs last year and came up roses so I expect now that SA's done with they can lock in Hutch. And with Ruskell in there I expect that was the plan all along. I'm a little bit confused though. Is Reinfeldt still working with the team? I thought he moved on but I also remember a little something about him staying.

Reinfeldt is still with the team. A few weeks ago, he turned down offers from the Niners.

 

[Cavalry19D]

on the SA news.

We can put a check mark next to our #1A offseason priority with 1B being Hutchinson. As the free agent market evolves please post all the news you know of here so that our fellow Seahawk brothers can check in periodically.I'm pleased to just get the Alexander stuff out of the way and move to the next item of interest.

I agree, but I would put Hutch at 1a and SA at b. They juggled big FAs last year and came up roses so I expect now that SA's done with they can lock in Hutch. And with Ruskell in there I expect that was the plan all along. I'm a little bit confused though. Is Reinfeldt still working with the team? I thought he moved on but I also remember a little something about him staying.

Reinfeldt is still with the team. A few weeks ago, he turned down offers from the Niners.

Thank GOD Reinfeldt is still with the team. At this point, we still don't know how SA's contract will break down. Mr. Reinfeldt's presence is comforting in that regard knowing that, even without the specifics and speculatory cap hit of this monster contract, he has structured the deal well with an eye to the future.

 

[tarheel23]

Alexander press conference @ 1:00 PM PST today. Audio available on Seahawks.com